Hello Jolien, Hm, no you have not offended me. Interesting you find heavy topics interesting. Most people do not. I have tried again giving it a go with (relatively) normal people around me. I have tried socializing with them the ways the like to socialise (because in the end going to the bar is not so terrible after all) and nod wisely to their senseless ramblings of everyday while adopting their interesting method of slipping a drink very slowly. ;] I was thinking about what some adults like to say, that animals can't think. Most of my schoolfriends dissagree with that and see no reason to be thinking that way. I tend to think it's an ignorance thing and if I know what others think or not, they quite agree with me. I have found some people, but probably not the ones I live around, have very diffirent moral values. Having to live with these diffirences is hard because most people will simply not care not to do something that is immoral to someone else, simply because and then in the same breath expect you to respect their moral values. I have also found girls make great friends. ;] I have been trying to figure out how your mind works and if I go by what I have learned about people in general, I would say you are what you appear to be when we're friends and don't hide all that much. I might be wrong tho. ;] And excuse me while I compare what I know of your mind with what I know of the minds of animals, I respect you lots, I just don't have very many diffirent observations to compare to. You see, I have found my mind tends to try and fit new minds I meet to the minds I already know. For example, when I started up talking to you, it has poped to my mind several times that you could actualy be someone else I already know and just pretending you are not. Since such kind of thinking is categorized under shizophrenia and thus not considered normal, I have been working on changing my current POV of the world. This is interesting, I have learned that I can pretend to be thinking in a specific way for a while and after some time, my mind will adopt that POV of the world. I have learned to consider multiple views of the world at once and then react by the one that I consider best for the situation. When encountering a real problem, the distance between me and my goals becomes obvious, which is when I have material to work with and decide what else is wrong with me. Sometimes I wish I could go back and be living and happy all alone again in my old view of the world, but it's too late now; nobody can understand a thing I say the moment I stop progressing. Oh, you might have noticed I'm draging a monologue over multiple topics, but to tell the truth I've prooved my point in every one of the topics I've mentioned. This is how my schoolfriends talk when we socialize at the bar. Everybody tells his point and we're all happy. All topics interconnect, if one doesn't such a connection is made for the sake of the discussion. It's an easy way to learn things about friends and life and because the topics interconnect, you're usualy interested in every one of them. Would you call it success? BTW, interesting thing I've noticed when you were describing Robin. I'm interested if you have tried maybe (perhaps without knowing it) telling him when something is right or wrong trough amplified 'emotions'? Excuse me while I compare his mind to the minds of animals again, the reason remains the same: I don't have much simmilar experience elsewhere, but well it turned out very practical for me to teach appropriate behaviours to some animals by making it more than obvious what I really think about it (for example, by showing reflexive fear to a dog that likes barking too loud to get attention). I understand it might be hard to understand something "obvious" to someone who has not been learning it for 18 years like myself, but I have a feeling it is accomplishable. I think it would be most important to not say just one type of answer to everything he tries doing, that is and remains to be very confusing all one's life. Out of my recent experience I have learned that it takes effort from both the aspie and his environment to make communication work. Take care. Byby. ;] -- I could run like the wind just to be with you. Observer aka DustWolf aka CyberLegend aka Jure Sah C'ya! -- Cellphone: +38640809676 (SMS enabled) Don't feel bad about asking/telling me anything, I will always gladly reply. "Keeping an open mind is not about disregarding new definitions to things." The perfect package for online business, get your free copy of the ICI system now: http://www.aimetasearch.com/ici/index.htm MesonAI -- If nobody else wants to do it, why shouldn't we?(TM)