[00:00:21] Contact form now works. [00:01:15] JoshStrobl, Billll already in past managed to use mumble protocol through webpage, i know he was writing a new client for it as well, not not sure how far he get with it. [00:02:32] nanos and I already talked about Silverlight. He'd be able to offer any assistance on that part. However, if billll is able to create a WEB based client then I might use it. [00:05:31] Hey, this might sound weird, but does anyone know of any kickass techno thats good to program to? [00:05:32] lol [00:06:51] Viper ^ ? [00:08:34] lol [00:09:25] ? [00:10:07] damn clock is going to fast! [00:10:14] read slightly above Viper... [00:10:16] i need more time! [00:10:34] rephrase... Viper: please read above. [00:10:40] *** Joins: Nanos (nanos.org.uk@RBOSE-08e1e52b.bethere.co.uk) [00:10:59] you mean music? [00:11:45] yes, techno music. [00:11:49] * Viper is listening to 01 - XiJaro - Sunset Excitement 157 [Amarok2] [00:12:23] i have tons of techno [00:12:49] Possible share? [00:12:59] yeah [00:13:06] You have a site? [00:13:11] No [00:13:24] You have FileZilla? [00:13:28] or a FTP client? [00:13:52] i give you link [00:13:58] Thanks. [00:14:25] here i get my songs http://tracker.etn.fm/index.php?page=torrents [00:14:27] URL Title: Index->Torrents (at tracker.etn.fm) [00:14:40] torrentz.com is ok [00:14:46] for a meta engine [00:14:50] agreed. [00:15:02] i jsut watch Good Copy Bad Cop [00:15:03] y [00:15:05] good movie [00:15:16] then i watch Eclipose (barf) [00:15:31] I know, Eclipse fucking sucked. [00:15:38] i cant believe girls would like it [00:15:41] I hate the Twilight movies, complete waste of my life. [00:15:43] I know right! [00:15:47] it is all about treating women like meat [00:15:48] What the hell is wrong with people! [00:16:05] people glorify myth and violence [00:16:08] So many movies out nowadays are shit. [00:16:23] ever read: The Myth of Redemptive Violence by walter wink [00:16:26] The only one I've seen lately that I actually liked was the Ironman 2. [00:16:30] from his book: the powers taht BE [00:16:32] Nope [00:16:45] JoshStrobl What kind of techno you are looking trance, vocal , hardcore? [00:17:14] hardcore, preferably no vocal. [00:17:25] http://americanbible.org/content/pdf/Redemptive_Violence__6_1_5150.pdf [00:17:29] its a really good read [00:17:38] Downloaded. [00:17:41] it talks about his children are indoctrinated by the media [00:17:48] to think. stuff like Might = right [00:17:50] I'll read now. [00:17:52] war can make peace [00:17:53] Well..maybe later. [00:17:59] the good guy always wins the bad guy always comes back [00:18:01] good and evil [00:18:05] power of men over women [00:18:10] 1250bc [00:18:16] the babylon myth is another name for it [00:18:28] when people believed in polytheisim and thought dragons were gods [00:18:36] maybe from finding dinasuar bones? [00:19:15] then i give you wrong link [00:19:18] http://neocortex.com.au/RBOSE/Music/Partizani.aspx [00:19:20] URL Title: Untitled 1 (at neocortex.com.au) [00:19:21] :D [00:20:04] http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/content/cpt/article_060823wink.shtml not sure if this is more concise because it is banned by the work firewall [00:20:05] URL Title: Facing the Myth of Redemptive Violence | Ekklesia (at www.ekklesia.co.uk) [00:20:13] neocortex: fails to load in Totem or VLC [00:20:13] but if you look around its well discussed [00:20:19] :( [00:20:25] use Google Chrome [00:20:28] http://neocortex.com.au/RBOSE/Music/Partizani.aspx [00:20:29] URL Title: Untitled 1 (at neocortex.com.au) [00:20:30] Thats what I use dude [00:20:35] me too [00:20:38] Remember I talked about that last night lol [00:20:47] oh...you have Ubuntu [00:20:49] :( [00:20:58] needs windows media [00:20:59] You really should stop using ASPX and just simply give me direct links to the files. [00:21:01] Ah [00:21:05] shut up [00:21:06] Fucking Winblows shit [00:21:10] I hate you [00:21:11] use firefox with adblock plus is waht i say [00:21:15] I hate you too lolz [00:21:15] *crys* [00:21:22] * Nanos smirks as he is installing Windows 7.. [00:21:23] I'm with Josh, ASPX sucks. [00:21:24] *runs away* [00:21:26] no script too [00:21:30] and video download helper [00:21:38] if you choose windows 7 [00:21:39] Diogenez: I have Firefox since it came with Ubuntu [00:21:41] use Tiny7 [00:21:45] its wayyyy faster [00:21:48] Nanos: Shame on you! [00:21:51] small (fits on on CD) [00:21:54] made by my friends in NL [00:22:01] Only installing it on a virtual PC, to learn about it. [00:22:06] addons are the best part of firefox [00:22:25] Nanos: Oh thats a relief! [00:22:29] i can't surf w/o adblockplus and element hider [00:22:53] Diogenez: Agreed but I prefer Google Chrome because each tab is like its own little sandbox. Plus its easy for me to develop Google Chrome extensions. [00:22:59] I can get Adblock for Chrome [00:23:03] easily. [00:23:07] I'll be sticking with XP here for a while, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.. plus I can't afford W7! [00:23:26] Also installed Ubuntu under the virtualbox emulator to learn about too. [00:24:22] JoshStrobl you have ftp server? [00:24:30] so i upload some songs [00:24:49] I'll set you up and FTP account, one sec [00:25:22] FTP Username: viper@globalcommunityportal.com Password: viper FTP Server: ftp.globalcommunityportal.com FTP Server Port: 21 Quota: unlimited MB [00:25:50] I don't understand people that claim to subscribe to the open source principles but adhere to old-school proprietary copyright thinking [00:26:23] afford?! [00:26:26] I don't know. Hence why I made my own licensing to prevent copyrighting and that shit [00:26:26] to real open source thinkers nothing is closed [00:26:26] you are kidding right [00:26:29] Might depend upon their reasoning, if its because they have to pay the rent, I can understand that. [00:26:30] i have never bought any software [00:26:32] no I'm not kidding [00:26:33] http://globalcommunityportal.com/freesoft [00:26:34] URL Title: freesoft - Global Community Portal (at globalcommunityportal.com) [00:26:39] copyleft ? [00:26:44] :D [00:26:46] hehe [00:26:52] i am even a member of the Pirate party USA [00:26:56] I've brought tons of software over the years. [00:27:00] Diogenez, link. [00:27:02] i voted in EU elections because i am a dualie [00:27:07] for tiny7 ? [00:27:11] for Pirate [00:27:21] I never buy software, I just borrow it from the companies through Pirate Bay [00:27:25] lol [00:27:27] for Pirate Party USA [00:27:27] www.pirate-party.us/ [00:27:31] thanks [00:27:36] ive never even bought a cd [00:27:36] You mean, test it :-) [00:27:44] its a human rights issue [00:27:55] ideas cant be owned by no lifeless corporations with out mass violence [00:28:03] It would be nice to see no need to make money from software. [00:28:03] property as theft [00:28:09] a great book turned 170 this year [00:28:12] Proudon [00:28:34] it would be nice to get free from the slavery money puts humanity in [00:28:38] and this is one little way [00:28:44] have you ever been to a anarchist Show [00:28:50] by sugested donation,,, [00:29:00] Agreed Diogenez [00:29:02] works well , Food Not Bombs [00:29:08] more is wasted than could ever be sold [00:29:12] dumpster diving.. [00:29:37] :) [00:29:44] Good for stuff other than food too :-) [00:30:40] for shizzah [00:30:43] Diogenez: Now part of Pirate Party USA [00:30:46] when the students get out of ASU [00:30:50] we get so much free stuff [00:30:52] even laptops etc [00:31:07] tehy have to get out of the dorms [00:31:30] and they just are rich and pampered by their parents and could care less but to throw everything away rather than pack and move it [00:34:02] but with FnB we actualy ask and are given by the health food stores the food not 'pretty enought' to sell [00:34:22] make huge meals and feed homless peopel in the park, all with out any leaders or hiearchy [00:34:36] we got some very health homless people [00:34:59] they would rather our food than the churches cheap hotdog they force them to pray over [00:35:01] to get [00:35:04] Viper: You uploading yet? [00:35:17] give me a min [00:35:36] * Diogenez hears thunder saying that is not Zeitgiest related and remembers being banned over and over [00:35:59] * Diogenez Thunder: We dont do plans, stick to awareness!! [00:37:27] gay men who end up having children i feel bad for them, because they will be stuck in the cloest for life [00:37:42] lol [00:37:43] not to metion he wipes his invalid mothers ass and lives off her SSI [00:37:47] ha [00:38:00] Alright guys, lets stop attacking people and do something a bit more productive shall we? [00:38:18] * Nanos is keen on productive [00:38:32] Even though I don't like Thunder or TZM, bashing them isn't productive. [00:38:37] * neocortex is keen on deconstruction [00:38:43] bye [00:38:46] *** Quits: neocortex (neocortex@RBOSE-11a0392b.iinet.net.au) (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [00:38:47] totally agree, Josh [00:38:50] Agreed Josh [00:39:08] JoshStrobl it could take a while [00:39:17] Thats fine... [00:39:24] its just heavy humor [00:39:26] Talking of productive people, someone I know, Bob has just started a facebook group based on his efforts, if anyones interested [00:39:41] Bob? [00:39:48] i love the production of Bob Mcneel [00:39:56] Bob the Builder? [00:39:59] http://www.en.na.mcneel.com/ [00:40:00] URL Title: Robert McNeel & Associates - North America (at www.en.na.mcneel.com) [00:40:02] Nah, I don't use Facebook. Their privacy policy is shit. I quit using Facebook a while. [00:40:03] http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=121040377941164&v=wall [00:40:05] URL Title: Moneyless BS | Facebook (at www.facebook.com) [00:40:07] Well, he does build :-) [00:40:14] they are a worker owned comapany out of Seatlle [00:40:17] Diogenez: I understand its just humor, but it doesn't come out that way. [00:40:17] make Rhino 3d [00:40:19] I never start using face shit LOL [00:40:23] I hardly use it myself, about the 2nd group I've joined there! [00:40:27] Viper: Congrats! [00:40:48] facebook is hostile at times [00:40:51] Nanos: Can't stand people who go on Facebook for fucking hours and play shit farm games. [00:40:55] He already tried the TZM forums, but had no luck finding practical people there. [00:41:02] but it is a good way to connect to people [00:41:08] I can't say I'm much of a fan either.. [00:41:15] Nanos! [00:41:20] glad to see you here [00:41:31] Thanks, nice to be wanted :-) [00:41:38] I'm here from time to time. [00:42:01] Bob did try with TZM'ers, on Z Day, some 40+ said they would come to a meeting in his area, only he turned up.. [00:42:10] Thats sad. [00:42:14] He's been trying to do something for the last 40 years. [00:42:23] I hate when people say they'll show up and not. [00:42:25] He has land and houses, but no real income stream. [00:42:29] INdeed. [00:42:36] A london TZM meeting, only one person turned up once! [00:42:38] Tell him to contact Atlas Initiative Group. [00:43:00] I went to one meeting, but around 30+ showed up, it was a good day, even a millionaire turned up, though for some reason I seemed to be the only one keen to talk with him.. [00:43:15] I think his land would be of great value and he would most certainly get a return value. [00:43:20] I mention to him all the other groups I come across, he isn't keen on the internet as he reckons its a bit pointless. [00:43:40] He's got around 16 acres from what I recal and several houses in various states of repair, but lacks volunteer labour. [00:44:06] I would go and help myself, but without an income, cannot afford to live there, which is what I imagine stops others as well. (Not that there appear that many actually interested in digging foundation ditches..) [00:44:08] Is this in the U.K. or U.S. [00:44:11] Uk [00:44:14] Wales [00:44:21] Damn [00:44:32] http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/csofarming/ his yahoo group [00:44:33] URL Title: csofarming : Collective, Stockless, Organic Farming (at tech.groups.yahoo.com) [00:44:44] Definetly checking it out. [00:45:04] I knew Bob before TZM came into existance. [00:45:44] lol i remembered my Yahoo login. I haven't signed into it for years. [00:45:52] My plan is if I can make money with my own business, to move to Bobs, as the rent there is pretty low. [00:46:33] Though we'd need to visit Bobs first for a week or so to see if we can get on well enough that is :-) [00:46:49] Bob is a vegan, and insists no one else eats meat whilst on his land. [00:47:02] So I can imagine that puts off a few folk. (I've a similar thought re. alcohol..) [00:47:12] I'm not vegan myself :-) but I can see the sense in it. [00:47:29] I used to be a vegetarian...for a few months. Switched back to meat, yummy! [00:47:32] So whilst Bob and I don't agree 100% on things, I reckon there is enough common ground that we could work together well. [00:48:35] He I would say is on a simlar wavelength to us in wanting to do practical realistic things to improve peoples lives now. [00:49:13] looks interesting http://openfarmtech.org/weblog/?p=1977 [00:49:15] URL Title: Full Product Release | Open Source Ecology (at openfarmtech.org) [00:49:16] I could work with him too, that is, if I was 18 and lived in the UK. I wouldn't mind so much going "vegan", being the fact its a healthier lifestyle. [00:49:46] fickel fackel [00:49:54] ive been veg all my life [00:49:58] i went vegan at 25 [00:50:01] i prefer raw foods [00:50:03] that is how my mom is [00:50:15] she will eat cheese that is unpasturized from a goat she raises [00:50:30] or uncooked eggs from chickens that help her make nitrogen for her garden [00:50:35] and all kids of other uncooked foods [00:50:41] she makse a wicked KimChi cracker [00:50:49] whe lives the RBE life [00:50:58] solar wind and makes her own earth homes [00:51:05] nice [00:51:07] she would like you to visit and help her if you watn [00:51:08] its in NM [00:51:09] Mangas [00:51:17] Hmm, maybe next summer I will. [00:51:36] http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=mangas,+nm&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=51.310143,53.349609&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Mangas,+Catron,+New+Mexico&t=h&z=12 [00:51:37] URL Title: mangas, nm - Google Maps (at maps.google.com) [00:51:37] Diogenez's URL: http://tinyurl.com/2uwnrax [00:51:41] Sounds like fun [00:51:50] ya its on the continental divide [00:51:58] 2 wells [00:52:03] 80 acres [00:52:09] she grows great weed too [00:52:22] all natural outdoors organic [00:52:25] legaliy [00:52:35] it wasnt always that way [00:52:49] shes a immigrant [00:52:51] from Congo [00:53:51] woah these are new google images since i last looked [00:53:55] it used to be Black and white [00:54:01] *** Joins: Grits (qwebirc@RBOSE-d6e9fa8f.shawneelink.net) [00:54:10] what's up [00:54:16] she just planted 100 fruit trees [00:54:22] alone [00:54:35] I do quite fancy an orchard when I come to build a community. [00:54:36] Grits Thunder came out [00:54:37] Diogenez > wow, why the hell won't you go down there! [00:54:38] that's whats up [00:54:57] because the gov stole my son [00:54:58] and help your mother [00:55:01] ah [00:55:02] and i am trying to get him back [00:55:06] Sorry to hear. [00:55:09] says i am abusive [00:55:15] becuase i feed him vegetarian [00:55:20] because i refuse to get shots [00:55:33] the Mormon courts got him [00:55:42] fucking mormons [00:55:50] you know what CPS at a jevenule court run by momrons is like? [00:55:56] oh new mexico isnt mexico [00:56:03] and there is an israeli uncle in law who wants to adopt him [00:56:07] Kebap> WOW [00:56:13] No shit sherlock lol [00:56:14] :) [00:56:19] Diogenez > wow. [00:56:22] AZlan [00:56:29] it used to be mexico [00:56:46] when is that? [00:56:50] until USA invaded mexico took over mexico city and forced them to give it to them for , manifest destiny [00:56:55] the mexican american war? [00:57:01] yes [00:57:05] If the drug cartels keep up, they'll have Arizona and New Mexico taken over in no time. [00:57:17] well the native americans are very upest [00:57:22] they want all their land back [00:57:28] from south american tip to alaska [00:57:30] rightfully [00:57:33] right [00:57:45] I wonder as a native Britain if I can ask for my land back too.. [00:57:47] boarders are xenophobic tools [00:57:54] haha [00:57:58] property as theft... [00:58:14] property as freedom [00:58:25] are you talking about that chick who posts YouTube videos [00:58:31] who planted 100 fruit trees [00:58:44] what do you mean Thunder "came out" [00:58:46] he's gay? [00:59:00] Maybe he's a secret capitalist.. [00:59:18] How about we all just http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOzG7bBylRo [00:59:19] You4Tube 2[Title] Blame canada 2[Category] Entertainment 2[Duration] 0:02:51 2[Views] 491509 2[Rating] 4.34 2[Uploaded] 2006-07-09 2[Description] blame canada [00:59:35] you tube banned here.. [00:59:53] :o [00:59:55] http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=mangas,+nm&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=51.310143,53.349609&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Mangas,+Catron,+New+Mexico&ll=34.170571,-108.31511&spn=0.006604,0.0106&t=h&z=17 [00:59:55] Diogenez's URL: http://x0.no/1ar5 [00:59:57] URL Title: mangas, nm - Google Maps (at maps.google.com) [01:00:10] thunder is a flamer yes. i was kidding about him comming out. [01:00:14] I'll be on a youtube ration soon, as I'm downgrading my internet to a lower bandwidth cap model to save money. [01:00:36] my mom planted 100 trees [01:00:42] Trimming all the fat here to try and balance the books. [01:01:06] What kind of trees ? [01:02:03] This kind: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2552/3891175672_9f6f0e894e.jpg [01:02:04] lol [01:02:09] I wonder about a combined heat and power system burning wood for a medium sized community above a few hundred folk, as being a relatively cheap and simple solution. [01:02:10] * JoshStrobl jokes. [01:02:48] fruit trees [01:02:56] jojoba date trees [01:03:15] legal weed too [01:03:17] of course [01:03:22] she don't smoke but its a cash crop [01:03:30] for NM it's legal since 4 years [01:03:33] I heard someone once say that planting walnut trees helps keep moscitios away, no idea if its true though. [01:03:39] medical use or why legal? [01:03:44] i love walnut trees [01:03:57] i know where a few are i urban forage on them [01:04:17] bats and spiders are effective anti-mosquito measures [01:04:25] The area I'm looking at has a problem with midges, I'm guessing its because the land is very turfy, no trees. [01:04:29] a brown bat can eat 1000 mosquitoes an hour [01:04:44] you should get rid of the bed bugs before you start worrying about midges [01:04:46] Yes, I was wondering about starting up bat colonies would be a good solution to getting all the bugs eaten. [01:04:58] build bat houses [01:05:00] Working on that.. any suggestions ? [01:05:12] yeah I have suggestions [01:05:17] don't sleep fifty people to a house [01:05:21] just dont let free sitting water puddle [01:05:23] I know that one :-) [01:05:23] boil all the bedding [01:05:26] burn the beds [01:05:40] Trouble with burning the beds is getting a replacement.. [01:05:54] seal up every single crack in your house [01:06:03] Just about done that bit.. [01:06:19] burn all furniture [01:06:23] yes only legal for medical marihuna =( [01:06:27] especially couches if people sleep on them [01:06:28] A little extreme that one.. [01:06:44] it'll get rid of the bed bugs [01:06:54] http://www.howtodothings.com/home-and-garden/a3973-how-to-get-rid-of-bed-bugs.html [01:06:55] URL Title: How To Get Rid of Bed Bugs - DIY, Exterminators, Pictures (at www.howtodothings.com) [01:07:00] I dunno what all teh fuss was about with windows 7, it looks like just XP, which looked just like W2k.. [01:07:20] or you can just try living with the bed bugs for the remainder of your life or the house's life [01:07:25] not for long [01:07:27] thanks josh [01:07:34] CA is voting on full legalizatin nov 2nd [01:07:36] Windows 7 supposedly has features that have never existed, yet I've used some of the features aero has, for a long time in Ubuntu. [01:07:38] and AZ too [01:07:43] Hard to live with them as their bites keep one awake. [01:07:51] nice! [01:08:01] http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Rid-of-Bed-Bugs [01:08:02] URL Title: How to Get Rid of Bed Bugs - wikiHow (at www.wikihow.com) [01:08:18] I wonder what features those are, as for the average user, it loads up IE8 just the same as XP. [01:09:04] * Nanos busies himself reading url [01:09:30] * JoshStrobl can't stand IE, is going to purposely make qTeach an IE-incompatible site. [01:09:44] I find myself using FF more these days as so many sites fall over with IE8 [01:09:50] anyone have any ideas on how to make a site completely uncompatible with IE? [01:09:56] as far as coding wise? [01:09:57] IE is incompatable to online learning stuff here [01:10:04] we recomend everbody load firefox [01:10:18] IE sets it's own standard [01:10:18] I quite like Chrome though, for times when FF doesn't work.. [01:10:19] Firefox or Google Chrome. Both are great and both keep up with web standards. [01:10:42] i jsut use IE tab when firefox dont work [01:10:49] witch is rarely pages designed for IE only [01:11:02] I use Firefox when I am developing a site and want to see the changes. [01:12:25] OIL HITS TEXAS [01:12:36] Fucking BP [01:12:48] http://www.maybelogic.com/gunsanddopeparty/ [01:12:49] URL Title: Guns and Dope Party (at www.maybelogic.com) [01:13:03] * JoshStrobl goes back in time a bit..fucking dinosaurs! [01:15:02] well we are going extinct [01:15:15] so i don't know why we try so hard to stay in denial [01:15:17] our own fault [01:15:43] We need to change our shit around or we will go extinct. [01:15:53] Agreed Josh [01:15:58] The way we are going, extinction of humanity will occur, no doubt. [01:16:02] i cant wait to see the stocks market tomarrow [01:16:04] its gunna be ugly [01:16:10] this is humanitys final exam [01:16:13] We are leading ourselves to self destruction [01:17:04] I find it interesting how few seem able to escape their extinctionist behaviour. [01:17:19]