[00:00:25] i thought projects were out of the question and only awareness was allowed [00:00:27] *** Quits: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@5048B2.E9D5BE.E339CA.C53C66) (Connection closed) [00:00:31] doh wait that is Zeitgeist [00:00:32] my bad [00:00:36] LoL [00:01:04] ?? [00:01:06] ??[x]: Usage: ?? [> nick] [00:01:09] josfca: Working on qTeach, Atlas Linux OS, Resource Management System. Currently discussing TZM and that type of bullshit. [00:01:29] josfca ---> http://rbose.org/wiki/Projects (Those are the RBOSE projects we're active on so far) [00:01:30] URL Title: Projects - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [00:01:47] open source toilet Boyya! [00:01:59] awesome [00:02:09] what's up with tzm and rbose anyway? [00:02:31] they said we are just sickness [00:02:36] in peters last speah [00:02:41] josfca: Projects AOSDT is working on are presented at http://globalcommunityportal.com/one/doku.php?id=projects (updating it now with qTeach, also updating qTeach page) [00:02:43] but you know how projection works... [00:02:44] URL Title: projects - Global Community Portal (at globalcommunityportal.com) [00:02:48] like rubber and glue [00:03:03] Ugh, PJ just pisses me off. That egotistical fuck. [00:03:15] is AtlasCity part of New Z-Land? [00:03:22] No [00:03:29] Atlas City is part of Atlas Initiative Group [00:03:48] Ugh, I should really make a video clearing that up too.. [00:04:06] dirrect experience [00:04:12] is the best convincing for anybody [00:04:17] ohh, it's the U.S. version [00:04:26] I agree with that Dio [00:04:39] Atlas Initiative Group was around before Z-Land project was buddy. [00:04:48] And we are already an established NPO with the state of Nevada. [00:04:49] aura ville [00:04:52] arcosanti [00:04:58] Didn't hear about it, I heard about Z-Land through Travis Romigh [00:05:00] Diogenez: in peters last speah <--- His last radio show? [00:05:01] rocky mountain institute [00:05:23] ya last wendsday he spent 2 hours dismissing critisism [00:05:38] can't stand TravisRomig. He caused some of my members in IGPG (in RBEF) to leave. RBEF could have been an NPO by now if it wasn't for Travis spewing his racist b.s. [00:05:39] and avoiding the real issue [00:05:43] Oh, I don't remember him mentioning any names specifically. [00:05:47] http://www.tu.tv/videos/rumored-manhunt-for-wikileaks-founder-ju [00:05:47] centralized power of stalwart vanguards [00:05:48] URL Title: Tu.tv - Videos de Noticias y Blogs - Video: Rumored Manhunt for Wikileaks Founder Julian Assange 1 of 4 (at www.tu.tv) [00:06:04] But he was most likely being subliminal though. [00:06:07] Huh, didn't know that [00:06:12] #josh [00:06:21] josfca: well now you do. [00:06:41] See how much you learn when you come into the RBOSE IRC? lol [00:06:54] LoL [00:07:03] ya we are about transparency here [00:07:06] there you get silenced [00:07:12] lol [00:07:14] I usually never log into IRC Channels [00:07:19] and or attacked banned and ostrisized for questions [00:07:25] josfca: You should do it more often. [00:07:33] or TZM forums, for that matter [00:07:39] haha [00:07:39] Diogenez: Nah, getting banned is the "TZM way to do it". [00:07:42] what about teamspeak? [00:07:50] It was a bit fast for me at first using IRC, but after awhile, you start to get the hang of it. [00:07:57] Yeah, I'm part of a California Chapter [00:08:08] josfca: I'm sorry to hear. [00:08:13] Me too. [00:08:14] Why's that? [00:08:23] i am AZ darkdancer tried to get a restraining order against me when me and everbody i work with are friends [00:08:40] Wow... [00:08:42] Because all TZM does is bitch and say "spread the word", you guys don't do shit. You just leave it up to us to do the dirty work. [00:08:59] they are threatened by people who can be radical and come from other backrounds and want to help i gues [00:09:00] Diogenez: DarkDancer is a moron. Well, most (if not all) the TZM mods are. [00:09:03] How can someone get a restraining order over the internet? Unless I'm confused about where you're located? [00:09:15] righht [00:09:27] @Josh, hey man, I'm not here as one of anyone [00:09:38] josfca: How can someone get a restraining order over the internet? Unless I'm confused about where you're located? <--- Internationally, I wouldn't know. [00:10:00] * JoshStrobl is going to go AFK for a bit, gonna be making my "Switch To Linux" video. [00:10:15] Josh is a bit frustrated, I don't think he meant to attack you josfca. [00:10:18] From my perspective, there are tonnes of things to learn from TZM. Personally, i wouldnt be here if it didnt start with many of the questions PJ asked through his films. [00:10:29] I'm genuinely curious as to what's going on RBE-related [00:10:32] * JoshStrobl remembers (after josfca lack of knowledge) he should make a video in regards Atlas Initiative Group and Atlas City. [00:10:44] like hypocracy and what a lack of transpacency or care for open souce is like [00:10:45] josfca: I wasn't attacking you, I was attacking general members of TZM. [00:10:51] got it [00:10:59] the 'leaders' [00:11:14] and their moralistic judgement [00:11:19] *** kman is now known as kman-afk [00:11:23] or lack of commpasionate communication skills [00:11:30] * JoshStrobl is wondering what year it was when Roxanne declared Jacque to be her bitch [00:12:06] What do you mean by that? [00:12:32] josfca: are you talking to me or Diogenez? LoL [00:12:36] ***JoshStrobl is wondering what year it was when Roxanne declared Jacque to be her bitch <--- You must be really upset. [00:12:37] Lol [00:12:42] Sorry, you Josh [00:12:45] Bran [00:12:52] Yes? [00:13:17] are you guys bitching about TZM again? [00:13:20] :( [00:13:22] Seems to be a lot of tension here [00:13:25] Bran < Not really, I'm quite happy actually. Talking about TZM just annoys me. [00:13:25] hahaha [00:13:33] vinces: are you guys bitching about TZM again? <--- Hell Yeah SoN! [00:13:34] vinces: yes, we are. [00:13:35] LoL [00:13:46] *** Joins: Cyclo (Cyclo@B46EE4.0DF7FB.5204EF.E98095) [00:13:47] OK, I am really gonna go AFK for a bit. [00:13:51] JoshStrobl: Bran < Not really, I'm quite happy actually. Talking about TZM just annoys me. <--- I'm just kidding man. [00:13:54] You know. [00:13:58] * vinces has idea, evertime tzm comes up we try to solve a real problem [00:14:04] we could fix the world! [00:14:14] Hmmm... [00:14:19] * BranManFloMore starts to brainstorm. [00:14:21] vinces, it never stops. As long as the pillows are soft and the tea is good in #developers, i really dont care. [00:14:28] vinces, I have an idea! Lets see if the monetary system fixes itself overnight! Just like TZM is doing! [00:14:29] ha! [00:14:55] I think as long as TZM exists, no one will stop complaining about them, it's just unrealistic to expect people to totally stop talking about them. [00:15:14] they are like a invisable troll [00:15:15] I think we need a community system [00:15:17] that is level 4 bro [00:15:21] Bran, its easy to get distracted, i know. [00:15:25] community management system [00:15:25] Solution: Everytime someone talks about TZM, they get automatically booted like when using CAPS. [00:15:28] * BranManFloMore jokes [00:15:37] yeah, well I just came here because I stumbled across a drama-related thread on TZM website [00:15:49] kman-afk: Bran, its easy to get distracted, i know. <--- Especially the more they grow. [00:15:50] hey josfca [00:15:51] cool [00:15:55] josfca, what kind of development do you want to be a part of? [00:15:58] everyone is welcoem here :) [00:16:15] *** Quits: Buglouse (bug@RBOSE-75aba761.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [00:16:17] I actually have no programming experience, besides basic web-based stuff [00:16:34] basic web stuff is a good start :) [00:16:36] But I think what is going on here is pretty cool [00:16:36] Same here, I just know some basic HTML stuff. [00:16:46] josfca, i came here with no prior knowledge in programming what so ever. vinces and lukas have helped me out a lot. [00:16:55] But the longer I stay here, I think I can know more than that. [00:16:57] ,hug [00:17:03] :-o [00:17:08] ,smack [00:17:08] * rBOTse smacks #RBOSE with carriages stands there glaring around ... WHAT? [00:17:12] together we are stronger [00:17:15] empowerment [00:17:25] ,hug Diogenez [00:17:25] * rBOTse hugs Diogenez for vinces and hopes that Diogenez enjoys it. :) [00:17:42] We are stronger when we collaborate indeed. [00:18:09] TZM are not stronger together gossiping about us. [00:18:12] * BranManFloMore jokes [00:18:23] BranManFloMore, don't you volunteer at TVP? [00:18:46] No, I left the Zeitgeist Movement completely. [00:18:53] But yes, I was heavily involved. [00:19:52] If you guys don't mind me bringing up TZM too much, I'm curious why you left. Was it because of TZM or something about Jacque and Roxanne? [00:20:17] !night [00:20:19] ACTION wishes GhettoTux a Good Night and sleep well. :-) [00:20:31] thunder kept calling me names among other gang mengality [00:20:35] i stool up for bill [00:20:41] and bill stood up for gritts [00:21:05] they refused to try empathy as an aproach and the value of all peoeple [00:21:16] i saw a humanistic aproach as the way that works [00:21:18] they did not [00:21:42] Actually I left because I was character assassinated by TZM administration by pointing out problems with them and they didn't like that, so they did what they could to try to discredit me. My issue is with Peter Joseph, not really with Roxanne or Jacque. [00:21:43] they would rather ban anybody and find a way to upset others and shut down discussion of projects and plans [00:21:46] *** Parts: Hoogin1 (hoogin@RBOSE-f9fc01b9.etanet.se) [00:22:03] So I left forums before they tried to ban me and call me a level 3 troll or some BS like that. [00:22:31] tweaker bob, asshole etc etc [00:22:38] They lack communication skills and empathy indeed. [00:23:07] self reflection and owning ones own feelings rather than making evaulations would have helped them [00:23:14] If they allow people like that up top to be key players, then interdisciplinary teams in the future will be a nightmare. [00:23:23] That's a good point [00:23:28] JoshStrobl: Oh, yeah, please do a proper introduction video to Atlas Initiative Group! [00:23:35] Don't they have people working on projects though, like zeitgeistmediaproject and earth2venus (I realize these are both being heavily pushed by PJ)? [00:24:08] a decentralized aproach [00:24:22] for instnace VTV kept making rationalization whe he needed to be an authority [00:24:28] !hug all [00:24:29] I think Earth2Venus is the only real project they have, but I heard that they wouldn't be able to collect date in real time regarding to resources, that's suppose to help for the GLOBAL SURVEY thing. [00:24:30] * RBOSE expands his arms and hugs the whole #RBOSE. :D [00:24:47] Caly-Lap: Will do right now. [00:24:47] But the Zeitgeist Media Project is nothing but collection of videos, art work and so on. [00:24:59] That's true [00:25:03] Although, I do confess to liking Peter Joseph's instrumentals. [00:25:03] JOIN NOW! [00:25:05] hah [00:25:07] * BranManFloMore jokes [00:25:35] collect data* [00:25:47] * kalken thinks that its better to work towards something, than against something :) [00:26:29] Diogenez: for instnace VTV kept making rationalization whe he needed to be an authority <--- Yeah, that show and blog was a joke. [00:26:40] It was just made to protect MOD corruption, that's it. [00:26:50] And to imtimidate their members. [00:26:58] before one lays the effort and complains about TZM, is there really not other things that deserves the focus first? [00:27:06] it seems like to me, they care too much about online communication [00:27:25] if you are subserviant and don't ask question ir propose ideas you would be fine in tzm [00:27:26] I think a lot people focus on TZM so that we don't fall into the same trap. [00:27:34] So I go back and forth myself kalken. [00:28:01] ya learn from mistakes [00:28:05] BranManFloMore: in that case its probably worth thinking about :) [00:28:09] decentralized and transparency [00:28:29] You're right kalken, I think about it and try to be project-oriented the best I can. [00:28:34] i think things go wrong when people talk to much about what they "could have" instead of what they have and can improve [00:28:46] If I wasn't so mentally abused, I would think more about projects. [00:28:48] Well, the initial impression I got before I came here was that this was some kind of troll haven [00:28:55] like what chomsky said has allot of merit [00:29:07] i say rather than get offended and defensive take it to heart [00:29:14] and use it as constructive crit [00:29:34] kalken: i think things go wrong when people talk to much about what they "could have" instead of what they have and can improve <--- But if we don't think about what we could have done differently, then it's higly possible that we will repeat the same mistakes. [00:29:39] to build a stronger movement that did to dirrect action towards the ends and means of creating what we do want by recognizing what we dont [00:29:45] I think this should be avoided as much as possible kalken. [00:30:16] real science takes failures [00:30:19] But I can only give my opinion and perspective. [00:30:30] I was on RBEF, and there are all kinds of awesome resources there too. I don't know why they don't link to these websites [00:30:31] and when we see a FORK that is how a open society works [00:30:46] Me either josfca. [00:30:49] they are defensive is why [00:30:52] and they don't like us [00:31:01] they feel we are a threat rather than workign with us [00:31:20] they are more than welcome to work with us and we have worked with them helped and some offer our help still of they wany [00:31:22] want [00:31:23] The point of RBOSE is to create open source software/methods for an RBE right? [00:31:39] but they desided to try to black mail us instread it was sad [00:31:41] Yeah and environment. [00:31:45] BranManFloMore: i was refering to talking about improving solutions instead of problems :) [00:31:50] all to demonize just a few people they feel will 'hurt' them [00:32:20] they is a bad word. It almost always creates separation [00:32:22] we need people with the skills to deal with all people because we in no way will advocate death camps or the like [00:32:30] tehy is fake [00:32:31] indeed [00:32:39] we = they + me :) [00:32:40] its the lifelessness that we as life oppose [00:32:55] they = the corporation the state the religions [00:33:23] unless we want to be specific and say VTV azzy thunder anarchy darkdancer and apollo [00:33:36] kalken: BranManFloMore: i was refering to talking about improving solutions instead of problems :) <--- If we learn from our mistakes, we can provide better solutions. [00:33:37] the moment one says "they" its simplification that is not true for all things included in the "they" statement [00:33:42] That was my point kalken. [00:34:05] And I think that's the point of the Prometheuspan Clan: http://rbose.org/wiki/Prometheuspan_Clan [00:34:06] URL Title: Prometheuspan Clan - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [00:34:35] * JoshStrobl is uploading the Atlas Initiative Group Clarification video right now. [00:34:37] There's some tasks and there are some documenting abuse from TZM I try to organize. [00:34:41] much like the conservative base or white privledge [00:34:41] So I go back and forth. [00:34:52] TZM is a bunch of individual people with individual thoughts :) As well as any other group of people that exists on this earth :) [00:34:54] once a person has a power or priviledge they will do what they can to keep it [00:34:56] And don't worry, its not edited. So you even get to see me eat my sandwich. [00:34:59] and all power in study leads to abuse [00:35:02] so.. [00:35:04] *** Quits: Cyclo (Cyclo@B46EE4.0DF7FB.5204EF.E98095) (Quit: Leaving) [00:35:14] kalken: the moment one says "they" its simplification that is not true for all things included in the "they" statement <--- You're right, we should say TZM leaders and ass kissers. [00:35:16] Not TZM. [00:35:21] individualism is key [00:35:29] There are some good people there, especially in the local chapters. [00:35:35] yup [00:35:35] moo [00:35:40] booo! [00:36:44] * Diogenez is loving this new RJD2 [00:36:57] Diogenez: individualism is key <--- Indeed, the biggest mistake was making Gilbert the international Chapter guy. [00:37:00] Don't they have people working on projects though, like zeitgeistmediaproject and earth2venus (I realize these are both being heavily pushed by PJ)? <---indeed they advertize and hand out pampheltes purely a advertizing movement or campaign, not much science happens, and the scientific method is simply not their even though they promote TZM/TVP like they implement such a thing [00:37:04] We have 130 people in our chapter, I'd be willing to bet not more than a fraction actually browse TZM forums, let alone TZM IRC [00:37:14] Now everyone has to report to him and deal with his mental abuse on the daily. [00:37:23] Well, the initial impression I got before I came here was that this was some kind of troll haven <--- I am a troll programming :0... [00:37:33] -inversions of the colossus - 2010 [00:37:41] josfca: We have 130 people in our chapter, I'd be willing to bet not more than a fraction actually browse TZM forums, let alone TZM IRC <--- Your city chapter in Cali? [00:37:51] Yeah [00:38:00] That's actually awesome. [00:38:03] it's hard to even get people into our state meetings [00:38:05] same with AZ we have 80 [00:38:12] But people show up face to face stuff [00:38:12] and we have our own site off theirs [00:38:20] now considered 'unofficial' [00:38:26] we got rejected in a way [00:38:34] Why did it become 'unofficial'? [00:38:35] face to face meetings are waaaaaay better. [00:38:38] In my opinion. [00:38:44] I agree BranManFloMore [00:38:53] The point of RBOSE is to create open source software/methods for an RBE right? <--- open source everything taking concepts that have been known to work in a virtual enviroment and trying to put forth in reality from heiarachl struture to project development. [00:38:54] because they wanted to take control over it and force it to be the same on the CA site [00:39:04] and a certian member Jamie [00:39:06] Because he supposedly came with the idea of international meetings supposedly. [00:39:06] !nite guys. time to visit the land of my dreams [00:39:13] I never attended any of them. [00:39:13] a power follower [00:39:19] Billll Thanks for the clarification [00:39:25] I didn't think they were that popular to begin with. [00:39:35] Good night kalken. [00:39:46] If I'm being an asshole, you have to let me know. [00:39:47] LoL [00:39:52] * JoshStrobl video is currently processing. [00:40:10] If I was. [00:40:10] jos: that's only my opinion about RBOSE everybodies is differnt it's up to you what you make of it and what you wnat to get out of it [00:40:10] No not at all [00:40:22] I see [00:40:29] I agree, Billll [00:40:44] yeah [00:40:47] I'm just trying to see where TZM mods draw the line [00:41:04] subjectivly i suppose [00:41:08] They dictate how Chapter should talk about and do. [00:41:15] their is no Peter Merola, or a Fresco, where one typically would ask them what do we do in a RBE enviroment it sup to you as a individual what to make of it not anybody else [00:41:15] I think showing people what you're doing is awesome [00:41:18] All you have to do is look at the whole AZ situation. [00:41:18] look at the banned user post yo get their 'said' reasons i guess [00:41:46] we were one of the most active chapters [00:42:05] but what Gilbert did really messed us up a big it was his intent [00:42:06] That's probably one of my biggest problems is a Mrola and a Fresco TBH, people qouting them like their qouting a text from the bible [00:42:19] Indeed. [00:42:44] It's highly disturbing [00:42:46] That's actually why I came here, I want to put up other resources on our chapter site [00:42:58] hehehe [00:43:01] I didn't think it was that bad but apprently it's that bad and people do this sort of thing, as wlel as hang on their every word [00:43:21] Good luck with that josfca, AZ tried to do the same thing and the shit wasn't pretty man. [00:43:21] i can only imagien the reaction of those who built the hiearchy to defend that stuff be zeitgeist only [00:43:34] I thought TZm I and II were laughable but I'm interested in autotmation hence why I came upon TZM/TVP to see if their was anybopdy into automation [00:43:35] restarting browser real quick [00:43:38] Especially you got Thunder in Cali, good luck. [00:43:40] *** Quits: JoshStrobl (qwebirc@RBOSE-a1b5eda3.rioaccess.com) (Quit: Page closed) [00:43:50] funny part is we all were zeitgeist and msot still would be i suspect if their behaviors were changed and leaders who abused users removed [00:44:14] Thunder works for insurance companies making threatening calls to people [00:44:16] to pay money [00:44:18] and he leads waht? [00:44:26] josfca: I'd suggest not to mentino RBSOe in TZm/TVp unless you want to get banned [00:44:28] =P [00:44:32] mention* [00:44:37] but you can if you want to [00:44:40] huh [00:44:44] that is waht i was saying [00:44:51] *** Joins: JoshStrobl (qwebirc@RBOSE-a1b5eda3.rioaccess.com) [00:44:58] even the mention of us is a bannable offense to them [00:44:59] I stay in TZM for awhile because I thought Peter Joseph would at least have the common sense to change up the moderation, but he didn't. [00:45:08] stayed* [00:45:10] I'll bring it up in the next meeting [00:45:17] Uh oh! [00:45:19] Lol [00:45:30] Josca RBOSE is blacklsit from TZm/TVp this is coming from epter Merola himself [00:45:39] No seriously though, good luck man, I'm not being sarcastic, if it's not TZM, they will bitch about it. [00:45:40] did you see the blacklist thread from peter Merola? [00:45:48] blacklisted.. [00:45:56] can you link me to that Billll? [00:46:00] yeah sure [00:46:07] tell them we want to be unblackkiste and all let back in ;) [00:46:25] haha screw that. [00:46:50] Once you're out, you can't go back in...thankfully. [00:47:01] sock puppet [00:47:34] http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MMmyjN4O4IYJ:thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_kunena%26Itemid%3D99999%26func%3Dview%26catid%3D229%26id%3D249403%26limit%3D10%26limitstart%3D10+rbose+codie+zeitgeist+movement&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us [00:47:34] * JoshStrobl is waiting for his video to finish processing to HD [00:47:35] URL Title: Codie Vickers and the RBOSE - The Zeitgeist Movement (at webcache.googleusercontent.com) [00:47:35] Billll's URL: http://tinyurl.com/2abavry [00:47:55] Well the whole point of a City Chapter is information/awareness. I don't get how I or a whole chapter could be blacklisted for linking to efforts similar to the Venus Project [00:47:58] they may have deleted it >_> [00:48:29] http://blogs.app.com/saywhat/2010/07/08/suspicious-wife-watches-dead-hubby-for-two-weeks-thinks-hes-faking-it/ [00:48:31] URL Title: Suspicious wife watches dead hubby for two weeks, thinks hes faking it | Say What? (at blogs.app.com) [00:48:32] Otherwise, VTV would/should(under that criteria) have been banned months ago when he got Jack Reed and Open Source Ecology on the air [00:48:33] ha! [00:48:45] well they made it unofficial and used me putting rbose link on a flier as a reason to ban me [00:48:59] and here i was thinking cooperation diversity of tactics [00:49:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igtLeU7Ov_w [00:49:01] You4Tube 2[Title] Clarification: Atlas Initiative Group 2[Category] Education 2[Duration] 0:03:18 2[Views] 7 2[Rating] None 2[Uploaded] 2010-07-08 2[Description] Atlas Initiative Group is a non-profit organization established in Nevada that is working on Atlas City. http://atlasinitiativegroup.org/acp/about-us.html P.S. It was a Ham, Cheese and Tomato sandwich I was eating. Think of it as a really good BLT. [00:49:06] Recommend you watch in HD [00:49:26] The sandwich is more detailed that way. [00:49:28] lol [00:49:42] @JoshStrobl I'll check it out as soon as I reboot my computer out of safe mode :-) [00:50:05] haha, you use Winblows. [00:50:24] yeah, i play occasional computer games [00:50:38] and I don't always want to whip out wine [00:50:45] and check compatibility lists [00:50:45] use PlayOnLinux [00:51:08] ,g PlayOnLinux [00:51:09] JoshStrobl: Home - PlayOnLinux - Run your Windows applications on Linux easily !: ; Downloads - PlayOnLinux - Run your Windows applications on Linux ...: ; PlayOnLinux - The Official Wine Wiki: ; Play Windows games on Linux with PlayOnLinux | Linux.com: "Occasional performances decrease (image may be less fluid and graphics less detailed). Not all games are supported." [00:51:35] http://thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=229&id=249403 [00:51:39] URL Title: Forum (at thezeitgeistmovement.com) [00:51:40] Plus I run Adobe CS5 [00:51:50] It was removed or moved in the private forum Billll [00:51:52] Windows 7 works without having to know anything [00:51:54] It looks like. [00:52:10] interesting LOL [00:52:17] *** Quits: kman-afk (kman@RBOSE-bfb48dd0.bredband.skanova.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [00:52:22] Damn, I wished I save each post. [00:52:28] wonder why they would do that :o... [00:52:31] Please don't tell me that you think that just because you can drag crap and make a site in CS5 that you consider yourself a web developer. [00:52:32] They were talking mad shit. [00:52:38] I think I have it somewhere saved on CS forums somewhere [00:52:45] Hardly [00:52:53] Probably because the restraining order BS was a bluff and Peter didn't do shit. [00:53:16] I use wordpress, and like I said earlier, all I know is basic web programming [00:53:32] I use CS5 for photography [00:54:03] * JoshStrobl is relieved. [00:54:10] Don't really know why I'm defending an operating system [00:54:37] I don't know why either, especially being that it's microsoft. [00:54:51] * josfca doesn't pay for software [00:55:34] You use TPB? [00:55:57] Not TPB, but torrents [00:56:20] *** Quits: neocortex (neocortex@RBOSE-11a0392b.iinet.net.au) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [00:56:36] MS is slavery only old hacke dversions gave any freedom really [00:58:35] Another Logo Contest?: http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=277&id=272778 [00:58:38] Man... [00:58:42] URL Title: TVP needs new LOGO Design! - The Zeitgeist Movement (at www.thezeitgeistmovement.com) [00:58:51] I don't like how they hide under that admin account. [01:00:23] woohooo 5pm .. heading home [01:00:26] be back on later [01:01:21] Alrighty then Vinces. [01:01:23] Take care. [01:01:25] :) [01:05:07] The Roots - How I Got Over - 2010 [01:05:08] mmmmm [01:05:42] who decides [01:05:48] i am sure it will not go to any vote [01:11:38] Uploading my "Switching To Linux" video [01:11:49] Uh Oh [01:11:57] what? [01:11:58] BranManFloMore Coz they are Pussys. HAH! [01:12:27] Yeah, they are, I added that to my list of exhibits of their censorship on RBEF. [01:12:27] you mean closested [01:12:29] LoL [01:12:41] I'm documenting as much as I can. [01:13:10] censorship on RBEF? [01:13:17] add when the cencored me in the BlogTalk [01:13:24] of [01:13:25] not on [01:13:28] No, I go on RBEF to organized the censorship on TZM. [01:13:29] LoL [01:13:43] You should know about my Censorship and Favoritism threads over there. [01:13:51] [16:12] Yeah, they are, I added that to my list of exhibits of their censorship on RBEF. <--- clearly says "on" [01:13:53] No, RBEF has treated me decently. [01:14:12] Yeah, on RBEF forums, I collect my exhibits. [01:14:20] ah [01:14:23] Maybe I should have worded it differently. [01:14:25] :) [01:14:47] http://rbose.org/wiki/Prometheuspan_Clan#The_ProMeTheUsPan_Clan_Research (There you go) [01:14:48] URL Title: Prometheuspan Clan - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [01:15:06]