[00:00:20] hahaha :D [00:00:57] !idle iderik [00:00:59] iderik seems to be awake, DNS. [00:01:05] !idle iderik [00:01:06] iderik just said something..., DNS. [00:01:13] rly? :D [00:01:25] hehe, what just happend there? [00:01:38] just randomly responses? [00:01:49] yep but just a few [00:01:51] :-) [00:01:51] or did you just found a new bug? :P [00:01:54] oh ok :) [00:02:03] !idle infobot [00:02:04] Mo0h! [00:02:07] mom! [00:02:09] !idle infobot [00:02:10] If you do not trigger, then i can begin to idle ;-) [00:02:33] hes alive! [00:03:36] where does it get his translation data? [00:03:53] google trans? [00:03:54] http://translate.google.com/ [00:04:00] google trans? [00:04:11] ?? google [00:04:12] google: sux [00:04:31] yes [00:04:32] haha, can you make aliases? [00:04:32] :) [00:04:41] ye there are some [00:04:49] ?? add hi bye [00:04:51] add[x]: No defintion found for word. [00:05:04] ** * [00:05:04] Found 38 matches. 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[00:47:08] ooooooo [00:47:08] lol [00:47:20] http://www.dreamviews.com/signaturepics/sigpic21991_11.gif [00:47:41] ha [00:49:25] ┌(∩_∩)┐ [00:49:26] wiiee [00:49:28] http://lolpics.se/pics/806.png [00:49:47] :o [00:49:59] nice stickers :D [00:50:00] ha [00:50:24] hahaha :D [00:52:47] http://lolpics.se/pics/2324.jpg < who would kiss this? [00:52:51] lol :x [00:53:02] ewww [00:53:57] DNS: http://lolpics.se/pics/2324.jpg < who would kiss this? <--- Wow... [00:53:58] LoL [00:54:08] http://lolpics.se/1647-i-think-it-s-a-trap [00:54:09] URL Title: lolpics.se: i think it's a trap (at lolpics.se) [00:55:20] http://lolpics.se/1892-megaflicks [00:55:21] URL Title: lolpics.se: Megaflicks (at lolpics.se) [00:55:42] d'oh [00:55:46] http://funnyexam.com/answers/1597-he-had-it-going-til-the-end [00:55:47] haha [00:55:47] URL Title: Funny Exams - He had it going til the end... 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[04:42:10] *** Joins: _Kebap (kebap@RBOSE-f6fff50e.us) [04:43:43] *** Joins: BranManFloMizzle (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-f6fff50e.us) [05:02:24] *** Joins: Billll (Billll@RBOSE-f6fff50e.us) [05:56:43] *** Quits: Viper (Viper@ONEforALL.ALLforONE) (Quit: reboot) [05:56:57] *** Quits: God (God@rbose.org) (Quit: reboot) [06:01:09] *** Joins: God (God@localhost) [06:03:53] *** Joins: Viper (Viper@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [06:05:44] Morning RBOSE! [06:06:32] * Viper is listening to Jes - Heaven (Fonzerelli Remix) by Unknown (eponymous) [Amarok2] [06:07:12] How was meeting? [06:09:01] *** Joins: Nanos (nanos.org.uk@RBOSE-08e1e52b.bethere.co.uk) [06:09:14] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/multimachine who needs reprap.. [06:09:17] URL Title: multimachine : Open Source machine tools (at groups.yahoo.com) [06:11:49] A $2 hand drill that will cut 1" holes in the hardest steel, [06:11:52] I really like these ones [06:11:57] sorry Viper did not attend, at work :T [06:13:27] I was looking through my notes here and noticed I'm a member of that group, thought I would spread the info around as it looks very useful and cheap! [06:14:14] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/africapowerandlight/ [06:14:15] URL Title: africapowerandlight : Africa Power and Light (at groups.yahoo.com) [06:14:16] whoa nice :D [06:15:31] I haven't got space for one myself :-( [06:15:45] My hope at one time was to see each TZM chapter with one.. [06:16:12] So people could help each other make stuff cheaply. [06:18:35] *** Joins: Sixth_Ape (unclefester3@RBOSE-e6964822.wbs.co.za) [06:18:53] thx to whoever put the e-books on rbose :) [06:18:54] I was looking up about that CVT you mentioned, looks promising at first glance for my vehicle, if I understand correctly (And baring in mind I don't know much in this area..) would I need two CVT's, one from pedals and one from the electric motor to the single drive wheel ? [06:19:35] it would be nice if you could multiplex it somehow [06:19:38] Its rather unclear to me how to combine the input power from the pedals and the electric motor into the one drive wheel. [06:19:44] just a switch or something :G [06:19:53] I just love the stuff regarding Krishnamurti [06:20:05] I also read about, let me get it, magnetic gearing. [06:20:28] http://www.engineerlive.com/Design-Engineer/Power_Transmission/Magnets_offer_advantages_as_an_alternative_to_mechanical_gears/22078/ [06:20:28] Nanos' URL: http://tinyurl.com/323umlp [06:20:29] URL Title: Magnets Offer Advantages As An Alternative To Mechanical Gears - a Design Engineer Article at Engineer Live (at www.engineerlive.com) [06:20:32] hello Nanos Fat64 :) [06:20:38] Hello 6th [06:21:01] I was imagining it would be nice to have a CVT magnetically done.. [06:21:43] Nanos I am busy with some bicycles myself, maybe we can get together some time to discuss? [06:21:44] elo Sixth_Ape :) [06:21:45] I was also wondering, would it be better to go for solid propshaft style direct drive rather than sprocket and chains to reduce maintence requirements ? [06:21:50] magnetically :o [06:21:53] I am off to work in a few mins [06:22:12] I really have no idea [06:22:20] the less friction the more energy [06:22:28] okie dokie, yes that would be interesting 6th my site about my efforts here: http://forums.bravenewdawn.com/viewforum.php?f=63 [06:22:29] URL Title: forums.bravenewdawn.com View forum - Solar Velomobile (at forums.bravenewdawn.com) [06:22:31] the less friction the higher the cost [06:23:08] bbl ;) [06:23:13] *** Quits: Sixth_Ape (unclefester3@RBOSE-e6964822.wbs.co.za) (Client closed the connection) [06:23:26] Also, is it true that hydraulic brakes automatically adjust for the wear of the brake pads compared with cable brakes ? [06:23:36] I wonder what 6th is doing with cycles.. [06:24:57] If so, I was wondering if one could have cable activated hydraulic brakes, to avoid the need for lengths of hydraulic plumbing, assuming that is how they usually are activated that is.. (I'm thinking that cable operated would be easier to fix in the field.) [06:26:01] Whilst I'm looking at keeping the cost of the vehicle low, a little more expense to save money later on maintence I think could be worth it. (As long as itdoesn't increase the price too much of the basic vehicle..) [06:26:23] But it would be nice to avoid issues with dirt/grit/water gumingup the works as is usual in cycles.. [06:27:41] *** Quits: Buglouse (bug@RBOSE-75aba761.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [07:02:48] *** Joins: Anon4682 (Anon4682@RBOSE-059cf07f.mn.comcast.net) [07:04:00] hey i just watched zeitgeist orientation and have a question [07:05:13] hello? [07:06:55] *** Quits: Anon4682 (Anon4682@RBOSE-059cf07f.mn.comcast.net) (Quit: www.RBOSE.org) [07:06:57] *** Joins: Sixth_Ape (Sixth_Ape@RBOSE-7cab6eb7.mweb.co.za) [07:10:00] Nanos: http://rqriley.com/imagespln/ue2.jpg build this [07:10:03] cute n sexy [07:12:47] That reminds me of something I saw earlier. [07:12:54] Its perhaps the same thing.. [07:13:03] DIY electric car ? [07:13:53] * Nanos mumbles about his PC being too slow.. [07:14:10] dunno, found it clicking on some of the gears-links on your site [07:14:14] on your forumthingie [07:14:32] http://www.flickr.com/photos/psionicdreams/2521891165/ <- but that one is also nice :) [07:14:33] URL Title: cars_IMGP1928 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (at www.flickr.com) [07:14:48] although making it aerodynamical .. in any sense , if possible, is encouraged I guess [07:15:14] As max speed under electric is 15mph, aerodynamics are less important at that speed as I understand it. [07:15:28] Though it would be nice if in time it ended up more curved. [07:15:34] ok ok :) [07:15:39] like when going downhill [07:15:47] you could reach > 15mph [07:15:49] :D [07:15:52] Well, you actually want to not go so fast downhill :-) [07:16:05] I was thinking I might need an airbrake for downhill.. [07:16:14] aka flaps [07:16:31] Depends how good the disc brakes are.. [07:17:22] mm x) [07:17:39] Yes, it was from what I was looking at earlier: http://rqriley.com/urba-e.html [07:17:40] URL Title: A Classic EV Design With Advanced Features (at rqriley.com) [07:17:56] The bit that caught my eye there was "No traditional electronic speed control was necessary." [07:17:57] workbbl [07:18:16] It would be nice to avoid unnecessary electronics. [07:25:02] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-1998aeae.vodacom.co.za) [07:35:47] I just received a free whiteboard [07:35:58] \o, [07:36:05] *** Quits: Sixth_Ape (Sixth_Ape@RBOSE-7cab6eb7.mweb.co.za) (Client closed the connection) [07:36:17] Nanos: mm so damn true [07:39:27] I'm more a mechanical person than an electronics. (Thus the idea of a mechanical CPU also appeals..) [07:39:39] Oh goodie, more freebies :-) [07:40:22] I'm not sure how that all works out though in regard to when you are just pedalling and not using the electric motor, how is it disengaged I wonder ? [07:40:28] *** Joins: Tarzan (Tarzan@RBOSE-d3af5aa0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [07:41:00] Unless it stays engaged and acts like regenerative braking and recharges the battery.. [07:41:10] Though that would rather slow one down I imagine.. (I wonder how much though?) [07:46:14] like gain energy from magnetic? [07:46:18] which will slow you down [07:47:22] *** Joins: Sixth_Ape (Sixth_Ape@RBOSE-7cab6eb7.mweb.co.za) [07:47:33] *** Quits: Sixth_Ape (Sixth_Ape@RBOSE-7cab6eb7.mweb.co.za) (Client closed the connection) [07:49:49] From the electric motor being connected to the drive system, eg. when you manually pedal, I imagine the motor will go round, even though its not powered. [07:50:36] One might think of it as a method of speed control.. [07:50:46] eg. stops the user pedalling along at 40mph :-) [07:51:03] Though it would be nice to do 40mph to keep up with traffic on fast roads.. [07:51:34] But its quite possible there will have to be design choices which won't necessary mean I can have everything.. [07:52:21] i guess there is a lot of regulations [07:52:26] will it be "street legal" ? [07:52:29] Actually rather few! [07:52:33] Yes, I aim for street legal. [07:53:07] From what I can see, the regulations only go as far as, it must be limited to 15mph under electric power, have a max of 250w motor, and 3 wheels only, other than that your allowed pretty much a free hand in design. [07:53:19] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-1998aeae.vodacom.co.za) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [07:53:28] ok! [07:53:41] If the electric motor only works when you pedal, then it avoids lots of regulations, once you have seperate power control to th epedal, then you need to pass lots of tests.. [07:53:51] Oh and a 60kg weight limit.. [07:54:13] 60 kg weight limit really, for regulation ? [07:54:18] Yes [07:54:31] 40kg if it was a 2 wheeler.. [07:54:50] 60kg means things like wood is good! [07:55:03] I can imagine it will be a challange to fit everything I want into 60kg and cheaply.. [07:55:26] At the moment I'm at 30kg with the chassis and 2 front wheels. [07:56:28] Dropping the height of the vehicle from the ground to the floor might save some weight I imagine, but I don't want to go low like everyone else, or I'll hit speed bumps and pothole sides! [07:56:45] At the moment its about the height you'd find on a typical 4x4.. [07:56:55] This also avoids flooded road issues common around here.. [07:57:42] Normal cycles your feet get wet going through the floods, so I wanted something a little higher at least. [07:58:01] wonder what the regulation is here :) [07:58:05] 60 KG sounds weird [07:58:07] But I guess I might be able to go half the distance it is at the moment, its only at the height its at because thats the most convient anchor point for the parts. [07:58:32] Dunno why its that, maybe someone just plucked a figure out of thin air.. [07:59:11] *** Quits: God (God@rbose.org) (pms.rbose.org viper.rbose.org) [07:59:32] They weight such vehicles around here too.. [07:59:59] I'm aiming for something like 59kg to be on the safe side, until I can more accurately weigh it on a weighbridge. (At the moment using 3 bathroom scales.) [08:00:07] *** Joins: God (God@rbose.org) [08:00:39] Though, being a 3 wheeler, don't you only need to weight one of the wheels to get the weight x 3, being that the weight is eventually distributed over each wheel ? (I'm not sure on that..) [08:20:28] http://www.cyclesmaximus.com/cargotrike.htm this is one the UK government wanted to use, but found out it broke its own regulations by being too heavy! [08:20:29] URL Title: New Cargo Trikes - Rickshaw Trikes (at www.cyclesmaximus.com) [08:23:28] There is a rickshaw parked down the road from me outside a shop, I noticed that the axle bearings are held in a wooden block which is then bolted to the frame, I guess that saves having a special metal fitting made. [08:51:03] *** Joins: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-be52ec96.cust.bluewin.ch) [08:51:54] yep [08:54:22] I gotta sleep! [08:54:27] 8 AM [08:57:18] Sleep tight! [09:01:36] *** Joins: neocortex (neocortex@RBOSE-40127231.iinet.net.au) [09:01:36] nite! (or morning) [09:02:13] lol [09:02:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwl5OuHVICI [09:02:32] You4Tube 2[Title] Julian Assange Explains Who The Bastards Are 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:03:36 2[Views] 1530 2[Rating] 4.93 2[Uploaded] 2010-07-27 2[Description] http://MOXNews.com/ July 26, 2010 CNN [09:38:35] *** Quits: nairboon (nairboon@nairboon.rbose.org) (Client exited) [10:02:36] *** Joins: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-96a728da.lavasoft.com) [10:10:52] *** Joins: Julius (Julius@5048B2.8BBB45.CFFDF2.5B349A) [10:14:13] !morning all [10:14:15] ACTION wishes everbody in #RBOSE a wonderful morning and a great start in the day! [10:24:55] *** Quits: Kebap (kebap@rbose.org) (Connection closed) [10:25:01] *** _Kebap is now known as Kebap [10:38:22] *** Joins: Sixth_Ape (unclefester3@A96332.2D36C3.BBC267.B3AEDC) [10:55:30] *** kman is now known as kman-afk [10:55:38] Morning Julius ^^ [11:33:01] *** Joins: Caly-Lap (Caly@RBOSE-5ef8f813.bredband.skanova.com) [12:08:11] *** Quits: neocortex (neocortex@RBOSE-40127231.iinet.net.au) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [12:23:40] *** Joins: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@5048B2.E9D5BE.E339CA.C53C66) [12:44:05] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-a84575cc.vodacom.co.za) [13:01:06] *** kman-afk is now known as kman [13:07:05] http://www.bradleymanning.org/ [13:07:07] URL Title: Bradley Manning Support Network (at www.bradleymanning.org) [13:12:15] A quote worth thinking about: "When one cares deeply about something, criticism hurts so much more. And the free software world is loaded with caring, which is why our differences can so easily become vitriolic." [13:12:46] *** Joins: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-e6ebb2a4.tbcn.telia.com) [13:19:41] Folks! [13:20:06] Regarding setting up an umbrella structure for RBE movemenbt organisations, i wrtote this in the EP: [13:20:09] "ORBE Open Resource Based Environment [13:20:09] -"The word "Orb", from the Latin orbis 'circle', is another name for a round object, especially a disk or a sphere." -Wikipedia [13:20:09] -The "O" in ORBE would be perfect to replace with a globe in a logo, so in a sense we have a logo that says "the globe+RBE" /Caly" [13:20:20] as a suggestion that is. [13:20:50] ^^ [13:21:14] It was a serious suggestion.. [13:22:00] orbe.org is taken though... :) [13:22:42] i think we are allready approacing a point in where elaboration will get us to a state when it's smarter to just merge several groupings. [13:22:46] kalken: dammit! [13:23:00] if we fix it in .be then or.be would be nice :D [13:23:10] Interesting that the RBEF guys liked the RBOSE name and site.. [13:23:29] kalken smart ! [13:23:37] :) [13:23:47] Did anyone record last night meeting? [13:23:51] yes [13:23:57] Downloadable somewhere? [13:23:57] joshua did i think [13:24:00] yup, not from the very beginning thou.. [13:24:13] Did you use meetbot? [13:24:14] josh you perfect piece of meat loaf! Come here! ;) [13:24:21] i think joshua did it from basically the beginning [13:24:26] kman: NEVER HEARD OF.. [13:24:29] SRY CAPS [13:24:32] Kebap did it from around 1 hour in or something [13:24:51] about when i got my mic working then =P [13:24:54] silly me... [13:25:02] Check the meeting page on the wiki. [13:25:06] links plz [13:25:17] Caly-Lap: I can also turn off the Caps Lock in xorg.conf in the keyboard section: [13:25:17] Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:nocaps" [13:25:18] http://openetherpad.net/riVmHsV1Hq [13:25:19] URL Title: EtherPad: riVmHsV1Hq (at openetherpad.net) [13:25:41] kalken: grejt, hur gr jag ? [13:25:55] Caly-Lap, with it, you can collaborativly fill the meeting agenda and, in the end, print time stamps for it that you can import in audacity [13:28:39] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-a84575cc.vodacom.co.za) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [13:32:47] Caly-Lap, that etherpad is very unstructured. Why you are not using the wiki to store the documentation? [13:33:54] kman: its from 2 days of meetings around talk about organization structure i think [13:34:02] from saturday and yesterday [13:34:08] Also, why wasnt there any text recording of the meeting? [13:34:24] There is no way of telling how you handled the topics. [13:34:41] Fat64: did you set up etherpad? [13:35:30] kman: good points. I myself was just there listening at first, because i had not attended the first meeting. So i guess you should ask the ones who initialized the meetings in the first place [13:35:42] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-bd6eb9ac.vodacom.co.za) [13:35:51] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-bd6eb9ac.vodacom.co.za) (Client closed the connection) [13:36:14] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-bd6eb9ac.vodacom.co.za) [13:36:50] kman: another thing to keep in mind is that people attending is from different places right now, with different structures and ways to do things. Thats sort of what we want to build away by using common project systems etc [13:37:01] :) [13:37:15] kalken, yes. Most of the people participating so far (from what i can tell) are unfamiliar to me. I cant expect them to have found the meeting documents we wrote on the wiki. [13:38:11] I hope pax will be here tonight so that we can discuss this further. [13:38:24] Yeah, i jumped into the last meeting a few minutes in, i diud not attend the last one. [13:38:33] * Caly-Lap blamingg someone lese [13:38:37] *else [13:38:38] ^^ [13:39:52] http://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM [13:39:53] URL Title: Picasa Web Albums - CalyptratusTZM (at picasaweb.google.com) [13:40:00] for your viewing pleasure! [13:40:09] ( Feel free to use the images!) [13:44:22] * Caly-Lap is off to the climate justice camp in Uppsala, to meet up with forces for decentralized energy production, transition movement people (Transition towns chapters) [13:44:45] etc. etc. Greenpeace and the green party will be there as well, i hope to make alot of contacts there. [13:45:17] so see you in a week if not earlier. ( i might go back and forth a few times) [13:45:21] Great! Tell them what they are missing ^^ [13:45:27] will do! [13:45:39] I hope to see you on IRC aswelll some time during the week. [13:45:47] Take care brother. [13:45:52] Peace, Love and Understanding to all of you! Bye [13:45:57] will try, will do! [13:46:07] * Caly-Lap hugs everyone [13:46:26] *gone* [13:46:32] *** Quits: Caly-Lap (Caly@RBOSE-5ef8f813.bredband.skanova.com) (Quit: Leaving) [13:48:29] *** kman is now known as kman-afk [13:48:37] Im getting some fresh air. Bbl [14:04:17] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/439 [14:04:19] URL Title: Mark Shuttleworth Blog Archive Tribalism is the enemy within (at www.markshuttleworth.com) [14:04:34] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-bd6eb9ac.vodacom.co.za) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [14:12:08] Edward Abbey said 'Growth for the sake of growth is the philosophy of a cancer cell'. [14:12:13] nice quote :) [14:12:18] source: the webz [14:12:28] :] [14:12:34] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-393d7382.vodacom.co.za) [14:14:57] How do I add quotes to the bot? [14:14:58] ,q random [14:15:00] GhettoTux: Error: "q" is not a valid command. [14:15:03] ,quote [14:15:03] GhettoTux: Error: "quote" is not a valid command. [14:15:06] !quote random [14:15:10] !quote [14:15:14] .quote [14:15:17] .quote random [14:15:33] *** Joins: neocortex (neocortex@RBOSE-40127231.iinet.net.au) [14:15:37] !hug neocortex [14:15:37] * RBOSE hugs neocortex for GhettoTux and hopes that neocortex enjoys it. :) [14:15:45] how do I add quotes to the bot ? [14:16:19] ,help [14:16:19] kalken: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. [14:16:36] ,help [14:16:36] GhettoTux: (help [] []) -- This command gives a useful description of what does. is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. [14:16:41] ,help quote [14:16:41] GhettoTux: Error: There is no command "quote". [14:16:43] !hug GhettoTux [14:16:43] * RBOSE hugs GhettoTux for neocortex and hopes that GhettoTux enjoys it. :) [14:16:47] ,list [14:16:47] kalken: Action, Admin, Alias, Anonymous, Channel, ChannelStats, Config, Dict, Dunno, Feeds, Filter, Games, Google, Karma, Lmgtfy, MediaWiki, MeetBot, Misc, Nickometer, Owner, Plugin, Praise, Quote, Scheduler, Seen, Spotify, String, Time, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, WOTD, Web, and Youtube [14:16:59] ,help Quote [14:16:59] kalken: Error: There is no command "quote". [14:17:01] ,quote get 9 [14:17:01] neocortex: Quote #9: "Reality is merely conditioned by perception ~ neocortex" (added by vinces at 04:16 PM, May 01, 2010) [14:17:09] ,quote get random [14:17:09] GhettoTux: Error: 'random' is not a valid id. [14:17:13] ,quote get 2 [14:17:13] GhettoTux: Quote #2: "Capitalism has destroyed our belief in any effective power but that of self interest backed by force ~ George Bernard Shaw" (added by vinces at 03:02 PM, April 23, 2010) [14:17:19] ,quote get 55 [14:17:19] GhettoTux: Error: There is no Quote with id #55 in my database for #RBOSE. [14:17:22] ,quote get 54 [14:17:22] GhettoTux: Error: There is no Quote with id #54 in my database for #RBOSE. [14:17:24] ,quote get 12 [14:17:24] GhettoTux: Quote #12: "Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity. ~ George Carlin" (added by vinces at 06:09 PM, May 06, 2010) [14:17:26] ,quote help [14:17:26] neocortex: Error: The "Quote" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "help" in it. Try "list Quote" to see the commands in the "Quote" plugin. [14:17:47] list quote [14:17:50] !list quote [14:17:53] ,list quote [14:17:53] neocortex: add, change, get, random, remove, search, and stats [14:18:06] !hug rBOTse [14:18:07] * RBOSE hugs rBOTse for kalken and hopes that rBOTse enjoys it. :) [14:18:17] ,quote stats [14:18:17] neocortex: There are 15 quotes in my database. [14:18:55] ,quote add "Growth for the sake of growth is the philosophy of a cancer cell" - Edward Abbey [14:18:55] GhettoTux: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). [14:19:04] bastard! :D [14:19:09] :o [14:19:13] oh dear [14:19:24] neo would you be my knight in shining armor and add it for me? [14:19:39] i'm not recognised either [14:19:44] i can try [14:19:48] GhettoTux: you can talk privately with rBOTse and register [14:20:03] just dont eco it in this channel :) [14:20:09] :o [14:20:14] lol [14:20:24] kalken is ironic [14:20:58] :) the most ironic thing i know is that the song ironic is not even ironic [14:21:22] lol [14:22:12] ^^ [14:26:45] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-393d7382.vodacom.co.za) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [14:29:07] Back, Good day all and sundry. [14:29:42] hey Nanos [14:30:30] Incidently, any umbrella name one chooses, its perhaps wise to check it doesn't exist yet, or one will suffer the same problem that the FreeNationFoundation did :-) (I was responsible for the Foundation part..) [14:32:14] Federation Intent On The Scientific Process For Human Advancement (FIOTSPFHA mm... that doesn't say anything interesting..) [14:32:24] I would be keen to avoid the term RBE in there anywhere myself.. [14:32:53] It took me 2 years to come up with Brave New Dawn myself! when I was looking for a better name.. [14:34:57] :D [14:34:59] me too [14:35:26] what about... [14:35:28] United Federation of Groups UFG, Global United Alliance GUA, Global United Groups GUG, Groups Across the World GAW [14:35:46] The GhettoTux Movement [14:36:01] National World Organisation NWO... [14:36:20] Movement sounds a bit toilet humour like whenever I think of it.. [14:36:41] I quite like NWO so far, its ironic.. [14:37:21] maybe its not the letters itself but the minds of the people reading the letters and drawing conclutions without looking and investigating first :) [14:37:24] Could stand for "the Nice World Organisation" too.. [14:37:33] thats the problem i mean [14:38:13] I know what you mean, like mine is BND, which is between CND and BNP, so I'm not racist and for nuclear power! [14:38:28] :) [14:38:51] http://www.nonamemovement.org/ [14:38:58] And the oppersite in some ways to Brave New World.. [14:38:59] :X [14:39:05] lol [14:39:06] It would also be good if one could base it on a meme too. [14:39:10] anosmovement [14:39:24] nanosmovement [14:39:43] I think it needs a term more with alliance or federation in it. [14:39:49] http://www.ihadtowritesomethinghereforpeopletobeabletofindit.org/ [14:39:50] Something to indicate its a collection of groups. [14:40:03] Even umbrella sounds good.. [14:40:12] Nanos: tribal thinking is bad! :) [14:40:14] Novus Ordo Seclorum [14:40:17] http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/439 [14:40:19] URL Title: Mark Shuttleworth Blog Archive Tribalism is the enemy within (at www.markshuttleworth.com) [14:40:23] Yeah I just opened that to read it shortly. [14:40:28] :) [14:40:36] I scrolled up when I got back to see what I had missed :-) [14:40:38] Annonymous [14:40:53] World Umbrella Alliance WUA [14:40:58] lol [14:41:36] Humanities Umbrella for Mankind And Nature, HUMAN [14:41:49] You can see I've had practice at this.. [14:42:09] When I worked in government we used to have to do this as well, only I would work on coming up with slightly different abbreviations.. [14:42:32] 14:43 < Nanos> Humanities Umbrella for Mankind And Nature, HUMAN <--- nice [14:42:45] eg. we used to think of government departmental names that got shorterned to things like "Centre Under National Thinkers" [14:43:03] 13:21 < Caly-Lap> Folks! [14:43:03] 13:22 < Caly-Lap> Regarding setting up an umbrella structure for RBE movemenbt organisations, i wrtote this in the EP: [14:43:06] 13:22 < Caly-Lap> "ORBE Open Resource Based Environment [14:43:08] 13:22 < Caly-Lap> -"The word "Orb", from the Latin orbis 'circle', is another name for a round object, especially a disk or a sphere." -Wikipedia [14:43:12] 13:22 < Caly-Lap> -The "O" in ORBE would be perfect to replace with a globe in a logo, so in a sense we have a logo that says "the globe+RBE" /Caly" [14:43:15] 13:22 < Caly-Lap> as a suggestion that is. [14:43:42] Bare in mind we are also complicating something that probably doesn't need complicating.. [14:43:49] then we just register http://or.be [14:44:04] Eg. if we could just agree on which group that already exists might be considered the unbrella organisation it would save effort. [14:44:31] I notice groups have a tendancy to over complicate things.. [14:44:37] as i said before, i dont think we need more "top" organisational structures :) [14:44:59] I'm unsure myself.. [14:45:50] "imo a structure is something that works small and is allowed to scale. I think about how nature builds things" [14:46:16] "so starting with a drawing of a tree, and getting everybody to agree on that this is how the tree should look like, will not make the tree grow that way in reality" [14:46:32] something to consider atleast :) [14:46:35] I can see at the same time both sides.. [14:47:06] If we had an umbrella organisation, then we would have a membership, thus if another group wanted to join, we would have to decide if they could or not be assoicated with us. [14:47:16] eg. whta happens if a neo nazi group wanted to join, would we let them ? [14:47:25] yes [14:47:28] Nanos: i dont consider myself as part of any group [14:47:34] :D [14:47:41] i'm with kalken [14:47:42] RBOSE is individuals working for a better tomorrow [14:47:47] Not everyone might be happy with tha. [14:48:06] any grouping in there is exactly what the mind thinks it is :) [14:48:26] Its an interesting thought to imagine one isn't part of any group. [14:48:39] Me, I tend to try and be a member of every group.. [14:48:51] This can be confusing to some people when I'm in an extreme left and right party at the same time! [14:48:55] Which do I support! [14:48:57] haha, thats about where the ends of the lines meet :) [14:48:59] Well, I support bits from each.. [14:49:14] member of all groups == member of no group [14:49:23] :D [14:49:26] The only true group I support entirely is my own.. [14:49:30] kalken sounds like Hegel [14:49:34] But even that is in a constant state of flux.. [14:49:57] What might be true of it last week, has been suberseeded and replaced with an update this week. [14:50:20] I notice thats another issue with groups, once they are established, often their values are stuck in stone and never really change. [14:50:31] Its not like a Vegan group would decide not to be Vegan one day.. [14:51:09] and if people are smart and not try to protect their ideas, and realize that the knowledge about our world is constantly changing, the thing that becomes "true" is the knowledge we know today, not what we knew yesterday :) [14:51:30] everything is changing constantly [14:51:35] so we better keep up! [14:52:00] and most of all build structures that allows for it to happen [14:52:15] An alliance could have a problem if say a terrorist group wanted to join. [14:52:36] now youre back in the group thinking [14:52:44] think of individuals working on different projects [14:52:49] specifik project [14:52:51] Perhaps its possible to have groups that can cooperate, without an umbrella organisation. [14:52:51] s [14:53:18] Though it would still require meetings to agree on things like communication protocols.. [14:53:20] Nanos: i bet a lot of so called "terrorists" are running both linux and windows [14:53:40] that does not nescesarily it bad per definition [14:53:46] Not a question I've come to ask many terrorists :-) [14:53:51] :) [14:54:21] Nanos: i think it will come quite naturally because projects and programs that cant cooperate with others will die [14:54:35] * Nanos ponders that thought. [14:54:46] because it can not be used by many others to apply in other aspects [14:54:47] I think offhand that is a wise thought. [14:55:01] it might be :) [14:55:10] Hence I had to ponder it for a moment :-) [14:55:17] lol [14:55:25] I think replace the will die, with, are more likely to die out.. [14:55:40] TZM might not cooperate, but might not die out for example. [14:55:47] yeah, i did the short version :) [14:55:52] Cooperation is more likely to mean you will survive. [14:56:03] will not live on, and be updated is another way of saying it [14:56:22] But, cooperation would involve agreement on some things, for example, communication protocols. [14:56:33] or maybe even, will not evolve and keep up with the world changing around... [14:56:37] Eg. we might make all our live chat systems, IRC compatible. [14:56:49] yes [14:56:49] Or at least, the text chat part.. [14:57:05] Its like the telephone, that is an agreed global standard so to speak. [14:57:10] that proposition has been made to make mumble compatible with irc for example [14:57:10] we should out-law verbal communication [14:57:32] That would be something I would support Kalken [14:57:43] support me too nanos [14:57:48] I have pondered making my own live chat thing IRC compatible. [14:57:55] nobody listens to me [14:57:56] and if its done with openly available technology, there will probably be exactly as many communication clients that people wants in the end [14:57:57] * Nanos wonders what neo needs support with.. [14:58:13] doesn't matter [14:58:22] youre matter! [14:58:29] :| [14:58:32] it's all a dream anyway! [14:58:43] I support whoever I think needs it, no matter how politically problematic that is! (Just ask folk who get annoyed when I say something nice about VTV..) [14:59:02] me to! [14:59:07] and me too [14:59:11] i love pj for the things he did right [14:59:15] Me2 [14:59:19] me3 [14:59:19] and i even love tanktop two [14:59:23] three [14:59:26] Same.. [14:59:33] because he has contributed more than me atm [14:59:35] and Thunder xxx [14:59:36] I love the PJ has managed to keep his site up. [15:00:04] And even Thunder for his at times ability to keep control over people that need it.. [15:00:11] Tanktop for keeping the lights on.. [15:00:19] lol [15:00:26] Anarchy! [15:00:43] there are good and bad aspects of anarchy [15:00:49] Indeed. [15:01:06] good is when peoples values are set so rules and regulations is not needed [15:01:07] imo ofc [15:01:19] Sounds reasonable.. [15:01:37] bad is when people dont care about anybody else but them selves, and forget that everything that makes them is defined by the surronding environment [15:01:52] bad is impossible now [15:01:57] * Nanos head is still full of electric motor stuff he was researching earlier.. [15:02:10] conscience governs us all now [15:02:23] neocortex: yes, because we have hugbots! [15:02:24] !hug rbose [15:02:25] * RBOSE hugs rbose for kalken and hopes that rbose enjoys it. :) [15:02:39] !hug x 6.5 Billion [15:02:46] Halbach Disc motor caught me eye earlier. [15:03:42] From what I can gather, one would give me 3 times the estimated torque of the current off the shelf motor. [15:03:54] Only you cannot buy those off the shelf.. [15:04:01] cool [15:04:03] Still, I wanted to have all the parts eventually made locally :-) [15:04:33] http://www.motoredbikes.com/showthread.php?t=24292&page=1 for those interested. [15:05:40] My main concern with my vehicles performance is hill climbing and acceleration from standing still. [15:05:58] Top speed is less of a concern. [15:06:18] Same with efficiency, not important if it means the other aspects are taken care of! [15:06:20] just use a combustible-thrust engine [15:06:28] Only allowed to use an electric motor.. [15:06:38] burn CPU boards [15:06:47] And ones feet.. [15:06:59] Flywheels appear out of the picture too.. [15:07:11] bzzzzz [15:07:38] Helium might work.. but then the vehicle would end up too big.. [15:07:47] eg. make it lighter.. [15:07:59] After all, it says 60kg weight limit, not mass :-) [15:08:51] Anyhow, I'm supposed to be clearing my head of that to fill it with somethingelse.. [15:10:12] Nicds also look a maybe, though they are twice the cost of lead acid batteries, and would require a special charger as the vehicle would have lots of them.. [15:11:03] I might use them though in my addon trailer for extended range, if I can afford it, as if itsonly twice the price, that could be more affordable than an even better battery tech. [15:14:02] I wonder if a flywheel might come under regenerative braking technology.. [15:14:40] Probably not though, I'm pretty sure it says the only augmented power allowed is one electric motor.. [15:14:52] eg. your not even allowed to have two :-) [15:15:33] draw a cable between the motors and say its one motor :) [15:15:35] As I did ponder having two motors, one for hills and one not. [15:15:57] I'm pretty sure they would see two motors as two motors. [15:16:18] !define motor [15:16:20] Google ? Related phrases: motor vehicle motor neuron induction motor servo motor motor home ford motor company toyota motor corporation yamaha motor corporation [15:16:31] ,w motor [15:16:32] kalken: Error: Google must be dumb because it is unable to find location motor [15:16:37] !w motor [15:16:39] Motor | Motor is a device that creates motion. It usually refers to an engine of some kind. It may also specifically refer to: Electric motor, a machine that converts electricity into a mechanical motion AC motor, an electric motor that is driven by alternating current Synchronous motor, an alternating current motor distinguished by a rotor spinning with coils passing magnets at the same rate as the [15:16:40] alternating current and resulting magnetic field which drives it. Induction motor, also called a squirrel-cage motor, a type of asynchronous alternating current motor where power is supplied to the rotating device by means of electromagnetic induction.. DC motor, an electric motor that runs on direct current electricity Br @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor [15:16:57] is a car a device? [15:17:00] :O [15:17:13] damn symantics [15:17:50] if you take one motor and split it in two, is it still one motor? [15:18:03] .topic [15:18:03] -RBOSE- Channel Topic: AOSDT / RBEF / RBOSE 2nd Meeting will be at 2nd August between 19:00 to 21:00 UTC on Mumble. Any questions at http://openetherpad.net/riVmHsV1Hq || RBOSE IRC Servers: pest.rbose.org, pms.rbose.org, viper.rbose.org PORT: 6670-6675,6677 SSL: 6697 [15:18:37] aah najs [15:19:42] Probably counts as two as far as the cops are concerned.. [15:19:53] eg. you want the design to be cop friendly.. [15:20:26] put two sirens on top then, and paint it black and white [15:21:16] *** Quits: neocortex (neocortex@RBOSE-40127231.iinet.net.au) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [15:21:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMc-BGBCSDw [15:21:25] You4Tube 2[Title] Illegally Modified Electric Pedicab in Westminster, London. 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:05:37 2[Views] 2858 2[Rating] 4.33 2[Uploaded] 2008-12-06 2[Description] Ignorance of the law is no defence and with a quick and easy google search one would have found this link http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=4512 which states the UK Law. A tricycle must not weight more than 60Kg or 130 pounds. An electric mo [15:25:09] Thats why ASAP I want to get the police involved as soon as possible with my design so they are aware of it and don't keep stopping me when I'm out shopping! [15:26:13] Like when I was pushing a table with caster wheels on each leg down the main road, I made sure I got police permission first to avoid hassle. [15:27:07] I want them to see me and go 'Oh thats just Nanos' [15:28:33] x) [15:28:56] the crazy guy who took matters in to own hands :) [15:30:34] Might even be able to sell some to the local police force for them to use :-) [15:30:45] Or maybe they could test one out for free.. [15:30:48] hehe that would be nice! [15:31:15] I find its better to work with them, than to work against them. [15:31:24] ofc [15:31:35] thats a true fact! [15:31:51] That was one of the things I didn't like about TZM, so many anti-police there. [15:32:24] i always trie to punish people not being nice by being nice to them [15:32:31] its amazing what that brings [15:32:44] for everybody [15:33:17] I sometimes use that technique. [15:33:29] Though I tend to find it often makes people more angry than less.. [15:34:13] nah, takes two to figt [15:34:15] *fight [15:34:23] Doesn't.. [15:34:27] even takes two to argue [15:34:50] I guess you've not seen Matt the Jerk over on Conspiracy Science Forums then.. [15:34:58] He argues with everyone :-) [15:35:30] yes actually i did, but i just didn't want to talk to him so i didn't answer :) [15:36:04] if everybody did that he would be trolling for himself :) (or what people call it) [15:38:38] Trouble is in practice, everyone doesn't, which is why you end up needing moderators.. [15:39:07] another thing i've taken as a golden rule last years is to read what i write, and try to answer the question "will this make anything better", before i post. I the answer is no, i dont press the button [15:39:07] * Nanos he says having studied chatroom behaviour for 25+ years.. [15:39:30] I prefer chat systems that let you edit your post before you send it. [15:39:31] oh [15:39:42] Yes, thats a good way to consider what you are saying. [15:39:56] A friend of mine says, 'Imagine I've looking over your shoulder when you write that, would I approve..' [15:40:04] s/ive/im [15:40:24] a person who lacks communicationskills and has been trying to communicate for 25 years. Thats sounds very strange to me [15:40:25] Your certainly one of the nicest people to get along with. [15:41:02] They are better than they was.. [15:41:07] Nanos: sounds like a good friend :) [15:41:18] He is, I met him online, lets see, 15 years ago [15:41:30] He is what you might consider, an even worse version of Matt.. [15:41:39] Yet we get along just fine now :-) [15:42:10] Its quite interesting how some of the most friendly and intelligent people I've met, have upon first meeting been the most abusive PITA trolls you could ever hope to meet.. [15:42:20] hehe [15:42:23] Usually though its because they are right and everyone else is a complete idiot.. [15:42:44] As such they are very frustated about that.. [15:43:08] I find their situation understandable... [15:43:20] it might be because people who dont know each other before tend to try to make up their mind and can only base it on what they see infront of them "text" etc [15:43:35] Uusally though because they only have a limited amount of places they chat, they never really meet anyone reasonable who listens to them and takes them seriously. [15:44:05] if i talk to an old friend for example, i can understand what he means by what he has said earlier etc, and not only by listening to the words comming out of the mouth [15:44:18] perspectives [15:44:31] They can often have short tempers, and tend to state things, rather than suggest things. [15:44:47] eg. one might say 'You do it this way' rather than 'I suggest this might be the best course of action' [15:44:52] i dont know. I have never had a word fight with anybody [15:44:57] That tends to get peoples backs up when they think the other person is telling them what to do. [15:44:58] and i probably never will [15:45:36] Its interesting to study I find. [15:45:50] I study so I can produce better chat software to make it easier for people to communicate and piss each other off less.. [15:46:16] yeah [15:46:23] I've seen good software enable the worst of people to be in the same room and not annoy the hell out of everyone else! [15:46:47] I had hoped TZM would go that route, to enable differences of opinion to not get in the way. [15:47:04] its quite strange behaviour to tell someone you dont know to fuck off, i wonder how people would react if they did that in the streets [15:47:16] *** Joins: Atomraider (Atomraider@RBOSE-6f29afa4.catv.broadband.hu) [15:47:19] I've seen pre-internet days, it involved a lot of punching.. [15:47:22] probably get punched in the face or put in prison or something :) [15:47:44] but on the internet its suddenly ok... dont get that [15:47:49] I actually find the internet a bit more civilised than real life :-) [15:47:55] hehe [15:48:11] in some cases i can agree [15:48:37] I've met folk who will beat up anyone they don't like for any reason.. [15:48:43] Even murder.. [15:48:56] One never quite knows what to say to them after hello :-) [15:49:17] but the phenomenon called trolls, is always the same as bad communication skills [15:49:30] trolls is a very over used term. [15:49:46] I think I've only met a couple of real trolls in the last, 2 years.. [15:49:52] yes, mentioning them tend to wake them from the slumber [15:49:53] They are very rare. [15:50:04] coming out of the forrest to fight [15:50:05] But lots of people use the troll insult when they just disagree with someone or don't like them. [15:50:18] yes, bad communication skills :) [15:50:25] I remember once someone called me a troll and I called her back a trollup :-) [15:50:30] You should have seen the sparks fly.. [15:50:36] *** Quits: Tarzan (Tarzan@RBOSE-d3af5aa0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) [15:50:43] hehe [15:51:01] I can cause meyhem with just a single word :-) [15:51:19] I did ponder what to say to her, and condensed it down to a single word insult back.. [15:51:27] thats basically the grandad of all discussions that ends in arguments [15:51:32] Its important not to waste too much time on insults I find. [15:51:51] And of course, the biggest insult is to ignore them :-) [15:51:59] angry people tend to say things they dont mean, to people that dont listen :) [15:52:12] so no point in being angry [15:52:31] People also need to remember that someone angry yesterday at you, might not be today. [15:52:42] indeed [15:52:50] I tend to always try and start a new day with a fresh view. [15:53:10] Only if someone is repeatedly a PITA for months will I consider them a lost cause.. [15:53:12] but one tend to remember that someone who got angry yesterday, can be angry today [15:53:34] Reminds me of angry customers :-) [15:53:39] heh [15:53:58] Someone reckons I didn't get the last job I got an interview for because I said I make an effort to fix customers problems.. [15:54:03] Apparently some companies don't like that.. [15:54:09] They want people who tow the company line.. [15:54:24] yet they had just said to me within the first minute of my interview, the customer comes first! [15:54:43] What they really mean is, the company comes first, screw the customer, but make it sound like you are doing everything you can.. [15:55:12] Where as I am 'The customer comes first, what can the company possibly do to make them happy'.. [15:55:36] I find that happy customers tend to be repeat customers and say nice things to their friends.. [15:55:47] Unhappy customers = business folding.. [15:55:56] yeah. wonder what happen to folks who treat their friends as customers [15:56:15] I'm reminded of a business my parents ran, and every time someone else would start up to compete against them, their customer service sucked and they would go out of business. [15:56:19] "i'm inviting you to dinner today, only 20€. Normally its 40€" [15:56:23] lol [15:56:32] And cancel at the last minute and don't tell you.. [15:56:44] Sounds like an ex I once had that :-) [15:57:05] I remember once she told me, "Oh pop around this evening, I won't be busy" [15:57:23] then its 10€ cancellation fee [15:57:25] What she should have said is "I'll be shagging some guy this evening when you pop round, so be a good chap and don't know and just leave..." [15:57:35] s/know/knock [15:57:56] I got as far as her front door, and thought better of it, just as well considering what I found out later! [15:58:15] hehe [15:58:21] She got a job in an estate agents, ideal job for her, spend all day being paid to lie.. [15:59:06] gotta go back to work now! nice talking abit with you Nanos ! [16:00:27] Take care. [16:00:29] Likewise [16:08:58] *** Joins: Buglouse (bug@RBOSE-75aba761.res.rr.com) [16:25:09] *** Quits: Nanos (nanos.org.uk@RBOSE-08e1e52b.bethere.co.uk) (Quit: Leaving.) 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I don't get the idea of "umbrella" at all, how can RBOSE "merge" with anything when this isn't an entity [20:34:07] I see RBOSE as a resource [20:34:22] I wouldn't merge my project to build a house with the bricks that are the house ;) [20:34:23] so do i :) [20:34:41] GhettoTux: i'm listening to saturdays meeting <--- I'm so behind. [20:34:56] still people can join forces, whether they regard themselves members of an organisation or just users of a platform [20:35:02] true [20:35:11] thats the thing about the umbrella [20:35:29] Hold on i'll do a flowchart to descibe my view of RBOSE ;) [20:35:49] yesterday's meeting was great, although we made one step back. [20:35:59] paxton: you got a recording of it? [20:36:31] kebap and josh made one they have to merge. dont know when that happens. have a look at the logs section now and then [20:36:56] kbap has upped his [20:37:15] paxton: yesterday's meeting was great, although we made one step back. <--- What happen? [20:37:22] he started a bit later than josh [20:38:03] the umbrella got questioned first and we discussed possible structures and such [20:38:16] some sort of cooperation WILL [20:38:23] happen but not sure which way [20:38:24] Hmmm... [20:40:25] I'll just stick with RBOSE :) [20:40:32] Good thing with RBOSE is that it is a mentality [20:41:08] and maybe the platform that will unite the movement [20:41:37] (at least the sane part of it ;) [20:43:02] The problem with all this is that it is just so old, the way of thinking feels stagnated [20:45:09] Hmm, on one side they talk about "We want this leaderless system" and on the other hand they want "We need structures and rules on how things are done" [20:45:14] it would be great to have you with us so you can show us your vision [20:45:22] What we need is nothing, what is needed are frameworks and guidelines. [20:45:31] i fully agree [20:45:34] To make everything open and transparent [20:45:44] I don't just want to be able to dload the source code [20:46:09] I want to be able to download the entire project, documentation and all aspects of what has been done and what plans that are ahead [20:46:54] RBOSE is the perfect enviornment to start a framework on how we view projects, to interconnect all other groups in how we manage projects [20:47:19] *** Joins: redgi (6670@RBOSE-05e1e3da.vodacom.co.za) [20:47:24] The ideas of each group are to far seperated on many fronts and shouldn't be "forced" to merge into one single project [20:48:09] *** Quits: Absalom (xxx@RBOSE-e1a317d8.bredband.comhem.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [20:48:49] paxton, Good thing you here! Have you read what we have written about making meetings effective? http://rbose.org/wiki/Meetings [20:48:50] URL Title: Meetings - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [20:48:55] that is not the case. and that is exactly what the umbrella could stand for: just a platform to make collaboration easier and show the whole world we're there [20:49:08] hi kman [20:49:13] not yet [20:49:17] well why make an umbrella when we already got rbose? ;) [20:49:37] I spent some time with lukas making some meetbot scrits aswell. Feel free to take a look. It could make documentation a lot more comprehensive and qualitative. [20:49:43] *** kman-afk is now known as kman [20:49:53] tbh this discussion doesn't involve me since I don't part take in any of the other organizations [20:49:55] because we are three groups working in the same direction and partly wasting time with redundancies and bad communication [20:50:11] *** Quits: God (God@rbose.org) (pms.rbose.org viper.rbose.org) [20:50:11] *** Joins: Absalom (xxx@RBOSE-e1a317d8.bredband.comhem.se) [20:50:13] i dont either. so what [20:50:13] yeah, paxton definetly [20:50:30] but the problem isn't the organisation in itself, the problem lies in the methodology we work [20:50:38] no one has taken the time to look what projects are in the works [20:50:50] kman: thanks. i'll check this tonite [20:51:13] *** Joins: God (God@rbose.org) [20:52:18] ghetto: not in every detail. that would be too much of work (and had to be constantly done as long as we have no common communication structure). but rbef e.g. has seen the use of zynergy etc. [20:52:43] i think the current meetings will trigger a much closer collaboration among projects and groups [20:53:05] paxton, also, in terms of agreeing on values, we had several meetings regarding. It resulted in the What, Why and How texts on our front page. If you havnt read them, i encourage you to do so ^^ [20:53:13] *** Joins: MrAndersson (qwebirc@RBOSE-bbc6a87a.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [20:53:39] kman of course i did. but rbose is not alone in this world, you know ;D [20:55:04] And i hope im not giving the impression of thinking that either :3 [20:55:22] kman: you are! [20:55:33] tux: dont be mean :D [20:55:43] the world has finallly gone by, all i had time to say was- Fuck it!! [20:57:23] GhettoTux, high five ( with an optional low five ) [20:57:23] talking about common values among all the groups involved in that process (and hopefully new ones to join in the future) is, to find the similarities rather than the differences. there is one thing we all agree upon, and that is the RBE goal. [20:57:56] despite slight variations in values and big differences in structure and strategy [20:58:02] paxton, who are "we" ? [20:58:20] I dont know what "the RBE goal" is. [20:58:28] the people from the rbe movement [20:58:41] People? What people? When? [20:58:48] o shut up ;) [20:59:07] you are already bathing your hands in it *g* [20:59:31] follow the white rabbit [20:59:37] Im bathing my hands in my own perspective. Knowing that, i would never take a position in which i am forced to speak for others. [20:59:59] thats exactly what i am talking about [21:00:28] "others" speaks for you! [21:00:52] Then, when you make a "we" claim, i expect you to be able to back it up with more specifics ^^ [21:01:08] what does rbose stand for? [21:01:34] For me, it stands for Resource Based Open Source Environment. [21:02:09] right. and also i have heard you say: "in terms of agreeing on values, we had several meetings regarding. It resulted in the What, Why and How texts" which included a WE, too [21:02:36] kman: For me, it stands for Resource Based Open Source Environment. <--- That's what I thought too. [21:02:41] I sure did. I can do my best to look up who i included. [21:02:45] may i assume that people showing up in RBE-related platforms and orgs somehow help towards its realization? [21:03:21] Sure! We have many issues with the pms atm. Feel free to jump in ^^ [21:03:46] those are we, the people, who i was referring to. [21:05:10] For me RBOSE stands for Reasons Blows Over Social Experiments, i'm just here for psychological reasons. [21:05:26] GhettoTux, and your welcome to do with it as you please ^^ [21:05:31] thank you [21:05:35] yeah [21:05:48] time to head home ta ta ;) [21:06:03] drive save ;) [21:06:17] Right Because Only Stewie Elevates [21:06:20] LoL [21:06:26] * BranManFloMore gets bored. [21:12:12] paxton, i was trying to make the point that the word "we" is meaningless to me if there is no reference to it. I dont mean to be fastidious and, ultimately, i think its a philosophical matter. [21:12:24] Feel free to ignore :3 [21:13:17] no, it is perfectly alright to me. although i think that you cannot avoid being a part of "us" when interacting with "us" [21:13:37] but thats a philosophical matter, too [21:14:38] It is, and a very interesting one at that- how we all are connected by chemical interactions governed by physical law. [21:15:53] Semantics in general is a very interesting subject. I really need to study it more deeply. [21:16:03] true. the symbolism of language creates division but there is no other way to exchange thoughts [21:17:36] so maybe we do the second step before the first one [21:20:09] *** Joins: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@5048B2.E9D5BE.E339CA.C53C66) [21:20:11] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-8fa2c5ab.bredband.skanova.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [21:21:09] *** Joins: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-be52ec96.cust.bluewin.ch) [21:22:39] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-6e0fb954.bredband.skanova.com) [21:27:40] Currently, there isnt. [21:27:40] I look forward to the day when vocal communication is simply an alternative among many. [21:27:40] Have you read "The Tyranny Of Words" by stuart chase? [21:27:40] *Stuart Chase [21:27:49] Got dropped. I hope im not spamming. [21:29:02] i got half way through before getting too busy with auroville. one of the most inspiring books i have read. [21:29:04] *** Joins: Buglouse (bug@RBOSE-75aba761.res.rr.com) [21:36:04] Really? I have to give it a read then. [21:36:15] Thanks for the tip ^^ [21:39:03] *** Joins: bugfixearth (qwebirc@RBOSE-cc2c9ac9.adsl.wanadoo.nl) [21:40:15] *** Quits: God (God@rbose.org) (pms.rbose.org viper.rbose.org) [21:40:47] *** Joins: pax (pax@RBOSE-0e151afc.dip.t-dialin.net) [21:40:58] kman: i hope i didn't inspire you to waste your time ;) [21:41:13] *** Joins: God (God@rbose.org) [21:42:33] greetings [21:42:48] Hello [21:42:59] hi bugfixearth [21:43:08] hi all [21:44:04] *** Quits: paxton (pax@RBOSE-43ed8850.dip.t-dialin.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [21:44:44] pax, haha [21:57:35] pax, i'll talk with you again tomorrow after you've read the meetings text and see what you think about it. [21:57:55] gotta go? [22:01:08] oi [22:01:16] eyo fat [22:01:30] toodeloo =) [22:07:11] *** Joins: JoshStrobl (qwebirc@RBOSE-04d7f52a.client.mchsi.com) [22:10:43] *** Quits: redgi (6670@RBOSE-05e1e3da.vodacom.co.za) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [22:21:13] *** Quits: bugfixearth (qwebirc@RBOSE-cc2c9ac9.adsl.wanadoo.nl) (Quit: Page closed) [22:32:33] *** Quits: Atomraider (Atomraider@RBOSE-6f29afa4.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4546, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-28 07:30:12 UTC 4546 http://www.kvirc.net) [22:36:32] kman ok, read through the various documents [22:36:44] didn't learn em by heart but i think i get the direction [22:42:41] *** Quits: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@5048B2.E9D5BE.E339CA.C53C66) (Connection closed) [22:57:14] !hello all [22:57:15] Heya #RBOSE! DNS asked me to greet you all, and thats what i just did. If anybody needs help, type !help [22:57:25] hi dns [22:57:34] :) [23:07:17] *** Quits: God (God@rbose.org) (pms.rbose.org viper.rbose.org) [23:08:14] *** Joins: God (God@rbose.org) [23:11:43] 'ello! [23:16:21] *** Quits: nairboon (nairboon@nairboon.rbose.org) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [23:18:16] Hello guys. [23:18:25] How is everyone today? [23:19:13] hi josh [23:19:42] hey hey josh [23:19:53] did you up yesterdays meeting recoring? [23:19:57] lets not get personal ;)) [23:21:58] *** Joins: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-be52ec96.cust.bluewin.ch) [23:26:46] ill upload the recording asap [23:26:57] JoshStrobl: u have the text log of it? [23:27:03] :D [23:27:19] DNS, I have my recording of the meeting, I don't have a text log of it though [23:27:28] hm [23:27:39] Is there any way for me to go back in chat history or something? [23:27:39] Kebap: u dont have one either? [23:27:52] My meeting recording is http://globalcommunityportal.com/meetings/Aug02-2010-meeting.ogg [23:27:53] only if you didnt closed the mumble client [23:27:57] i think so [23:28:19] however, Kebap needs to mash the two recordings together. [23:28:24] I did close the mumble client. [23:28:33] how dare you? :D [23:28:38] :) [23:28:48] 3: A Programme [23:28:59] 23:19 < pax> lets not get personal [23:29:15] i'm gonna fall asleep now [23:29:16] ok, 1:0 for tux :D [23:29:22] ;) [23:31:00] Great job Josh. [23:31:21] I'm converting the first meeting into videos now and will be uploading them on the RBOSE YOUTUBE Channel soon. [23:31:30] Keep me updated on the 2nd meeting. [23:31:39] I still haven't listened to it. [23:31:45] I mean, it was like 4 hours. [23:32:11] Yea, it was pretty long. [23:32:50] I'll keep you posted, I just need Kebap to download my .ogg, splice it in with his (so when I talk, you actually here me lol) recording and it should be uploaded [23:33:09] What did you use to record the meeting? [23:33:28] Maybe that would be a good video for you to do next, how to record meetings. [23:33:29] LoL [23:33:46] And thanks. [23:34:07] kebaps ogg is just 73,4mb big o_0 [23:34:23] better compressed or shorter, Kebap? [23:34:57] im gettin confused now [23:35:11] is Kebap part 2 and yours part 1 JoshStrobl? [23:35:41] Sounds like it. [23:35:46] Not sure. [23:36:04] kman pointed at a wiki page about meetings. this one and the included documents seem really useful for future gatherings http://rbose.org/wiki/Meetings [23:36:05] URL Title: Meetings - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [23:36:17] yea [23:36:23] :-) [23:36:26] getting a bit more organized [23:36:41] (although we're no organization :D ) [23:36:59] also would b kewl if lukass script for the bot can be used for future meetings [23:41:17] pax: (although we're no organization :D ) <--- The paradox. [23:41:18] LoL [23:41:33] DNS: also would b kewl if lukass script for the bot can be used for future meetings <--- Word. [23:43:32] pax, thank you for taking time with it. [23:44:17] Regarding the meetbot script, there is yet a gap to be closed between irc importing commands from mumble. [23:45:11] yep [23:45:20] but still some features can be already used [23:45:30] However, the meetbot as it is, is working well. There hasnt been any extensive testing, but i cant see where any problems would arise. [23:48:08] (as it is <- as in with the script implemented) [23:48:31] An organization is a social arrangement which pursues collective goals, controls its own performance, and has a boundary separating it from its environment. [23:48:41] DNS: No, mine is all, however when I recorded, it caught everything except my voice. So whenever I talked there was a silent gap. [23:48:44] so RBOSE is not an organization because it does not have that boundary separating it from its environment? [23:49:15] I'm not sure how far into the meeting Kebap started recording. [23:49:18] Fat64, call it an organization if you find it productive ^^ [23:50:28] Bran: I used Audacity to record. [23:50:37] Hmmm... [23:50:58] !g audacity [23:50:59] Google | Audacity: Free Audio Editor and Recorder @ http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ | Audacity: Download @ http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/ | Audacity - Free software downloads and software reviews - CNET ... @ http://download.cnet.com/Audacity/3000-2170_4-10058117.html [23:51:08] :-) [23:51:16] Which version do you have Josh? [23:51:17] JoshStrobl, And if you used the meetbot for documenting you would have had timestamps to import and see who says what, and when. :3 [23:51:31] kman: :D [23:51:45] Bran: Latest version, not sure what it is. [23:51:50] Not the beta though [23:51:52] Stable release [23:53:37] *** Quits: Julius (Julius@psyc.RBOSE) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [23:56:36] *** Joins: neocortex (neocortex@RBOSE-40127231.iinet.net.au) [23:58:42] *** Quits: MrAndersson (qwebirc@RBOSE-bbc6a87a.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Quit: Page closed)