[00:00:07] *** Quits: Hermann (nicklas@RBOSE-735eebf1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [00:00:43] it's raining men [00:01:08] :D [00:01:12] I'm so funny [00:01:19] no rain here xD [00:01:30] ^^ [00:01:30] :( [00:01:33] :D [00:01:36] more for me [00:01:50] i'll send you all rain i can find [00:01:58] you happy? [00:02:01] :P [00:02:21] :| [00:02:25] maybe [00:02:48] ok [00:02:53] yes [00:05:39] boys don't care about the monday blues [00:06:26] lol [00:06:38] it isnt monday anymore [00:06:42] :) [00:06:45] http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6783LE20100809 [00:06:46] URL Title: Verizon and Google propose Web traffic rules | Reuters (at www.reuters.com) [00:06:57] oh shi? [00:07:15] rules? [00:07:21] google is not your friend [00:07:22] http://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifestyle/your-brain-is-not-your-friend.html [00:07:23] :( [00:07:26] monday is very subjective [00:07:27] oh no [00:07:44] yes monday has always been very post-modern [00:07:47] bye [00:13:54] going now [00:14:07] i know you want to say goodbye [00:14:48] *clears throat* [00:17:39] ,hug neocortex [00:17:40] * rBOTse hugs neocortex for nairboon and hopes that neocortex enjoys it. :) [00:17:43] good night [00:17:44] :D [00:17:46] bye [00:17:50] :P [00:18:08] goodbye [00:21:25] http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/SFC-wins-default-judgement-against-GPL-violator-1050552.html [00:21:27] URL Title: SFC wins default judgement against GPL violator - The H Open Source: News and Features (at www.h-online.com) [00:21:47] *** Quits: neocortex (neocortex@RBOSE-e8be0bc4.iinet.net.au) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [00:30:20] *** Joins: Buglouse (bug@RBOSE-75aba761.res.rr.com) [00:31:05] *** Quits: Antilect2 (Antilect@RBOSE-e6ebb2a4.tbcn.telia.com) (Client closed the connection) [00:40:29] *** Joins: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-c9131efe.supraktv.hu) [00:40:39] *** Parts: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-c9131efe.supraktv.hu) [01:09:47] *** Joins: stillXP-Aktivist (stillXP-Aktiv@RBOSE-eddc7c00.adsl.alicedsl.de) [01:10:21] *** Quits: Atomraider (Atomraider@RBOSE-6f29afa4.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4546, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-28 07:30:12 UTC 4546 http://www.kvirc.net) [01:25:22] *** Joins: neocortex (neocortex@RBOSE-bd5c1d12.nxg.net.au) [01:42:09] *** Joins: Lara (NYC@RBOSE-1b5aa32f.pools.spcsdns.net) [01:42:38] hi DNS [01:42:48] Good evening [01:42:53] hi lara :) [01:42:59] :) [01:43:14] Hey Lara [01:43:18] Oh a strange new name for me [01:43:26] 0_o [01:43:34] hi BranManFloMore, I recognize your nick too [01:43:39] from Zeitgeist [01:43:48] Well, I just feel special- thank you Lara. [01:43:50] :) [01:43:51] :p [01:44:09] I was asking DNS about it because I couldn't connect to their server [01:44:11] Well you are special Bran [01:44:17] special brand even [01:44:19] hi Ghettotux too [01:44:26] Hi hi, nice to meet you [01:44:27] Ghettotux: Well you are special Bran <--- Come on now, I'm blushing. [01:44:31] you too [01:44:34] haha [01:44:38] !hug BranManFloMore [01:44:39] * RBOSE hugs BranManFloMore for Ghettotux and hopes that BranManFloMore enjoys it. :) [01:45:27] hi Lara [01:45:29] :D [01:45:32] DNS: which one is the botanics channel? [01:45:37] hi neocortex [01:45:38] is there one? [01:45:42] no [01:45:44] #OSF [01:45:47] lara make one .) [01:45:47] aha [01:45:51] :p [01:46:00] Grits would enjoy talking botanics [01:46:06] * Lara does /list [01:46:27] warpi also i guess :D [01:46:55] nauti as well, from the swedish group [01:47:00] mm [01:47:15] and so would I, veggies owns :) [01:47:30] DNS was telling me about http://www.rbose.org/wiki/OSF , it sounds interesting [01:47:31] URL Title: OSF - RBOSE (at www.rbose.org) [01:47:57] *** ismist is now known as Fat64 [01:48:18] Lara: It sure is [01:48:28] DNS: so there's no channel for it right? [01:48:33] there is now [01:48:38] =) [01:48:38] :p [01:48:53] you know what I mean... obviously I can /j #somewhere [01:49:02] type /join #OSF [01:49:08] and there u g0 [01:49:10] well,, we discuss farming in #RBOSE and #rbose.se [01:49:20] ok [01:49:34] now we cant talk farming here any longer [01:49:35] :P [01:49:36] because it's central issue :D how to attain food [01:49:40] x) [01:51:00] DNS: why do a channel need to be regged by me for us to get chanserv? [01:51:06] I just want to add quotes :) [01:51:38] lol [01:51:38] thank you dns :) [01:51:49] I don't want to hold any passwords :) [01:51:58] you dont need too [01:52:02] for a channel [01:52:12] only if you want to change channel founder or successor [02:07:06] are any of you in freenode #rbose ? [02:07:07] And why would we have founders or successors ? [02:07:19] what is freenode? [02:07:21] !w freenode [02:07:23] Freenode | Freenode, formerly known as Open Projects Network, is a popular IRC network used to discuss peer-directed projects. Their servers are all accessible from the domain name chat.freenode.net, which load balances connections by using the actual servers in rotation. It is the largest free and open source software-focused IRC network, encompassing more than 60,000 users and 30,000 channels. @ [02:07:24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenode [02:07:30] aah :D [02:07:35] Haha i'm just slow :D [02:07:36] too late :P [02:07:41] or early perhaps [02:07:47] it's another IRC network :) [02:08:00] Yeah I know, brain just isn't working :) [02:08:04] it's ok [02:08:10] oh [02:08:15] asking before thinking can be a tricky thing :) [02:15:33] ,quote add If nuclear power plants are safe, let the commerical insurance industry insure them. Until these most expert judges of risk are willing to gamble with their money, I'm not willing to gamble with the health and safety of my family. ~ Donna Reed [02:15:33] DNS: The operation succeeded. Quote #108 added. [02:15:44] I don't mind talking about this here if you want, since there are more people... [02:17:00] Sometimes nice to spil it up with easy to search logs on topic specific channels [02:17:38] I got banned from freenode [02:18:31] just throw a pillow! [02:18:36] !pillow [02:18:37] ACTION quickly throws a pillow in the face of Ghettotux. [02:18:46] !pillow all [02:18:47] ACTION starts a pillow fight in #RBOSE, and throws a pillow in everbodys face. [02:19:15] neocortex: why? [02:19:36] Ghettotux: is it publicly logged or you mean your own logs? [02:19:51] some cahnnels are public i think [02:20:05] I hate public logs [02:20:08] DNS: what channels are logged? All regged? [02:20:17] no just 3 [02:20:21] type: !stats [02:20:23] we are all about trancperancy :) [02:20:24] !stats [02:20:25] IRC Stats Available At: #RBOSE: http://rbose.org/stats | #developers: http://rbose.org/stats/developers.html | #WIKI: http://rbose.org/stats/wiki.html [02:20:34] okay [02:20:36] so far just 3 [02:20:44] well stats are different than logs too [02:20:48] ?? logs [02:20:49] logs[1]: IRC-Logs: http://rbose.org/logs [02:20:51] logs[2]: Mumble-Recordings: http://rbose.org/mumble-recordings [02:21:55] ok, so there are logs too... [02:22:13] :) the stats are generated thru the logs [02:23:29] I know, but I meant public logs. I don't really care if people have logs of their own in their IRC client [02:23:51] it's not like you can control that or know about it anyway :p [02:23:59] hehe [02:25:15] well, #rbose #developers and #wiki are public logs [02:25:39] will be more laters :D [02:27:13] on my behalf, you are welcome to log any channel, as long as no private conversations gets lolgged, but then again, that is propably not even possible [02:27:17] sorry...lara...at work at the moment... [02:27:25] it's ok [02:27:29] :D [02:27:35] i don't know why i was banned [02:27:47] just said something political i think [02:27:56] relatively inert [02:28:01] You mean this Lara? : http://rbose.org/logs [02:28:01] URL Title: Index of /logs (at rbose.org) [02:28:02] they were touchy [02:28:20] don't read the rbose logs lara [02:28:24] Wait... DNS already gave you that. [02:28:29] everyone that has read them has died [02:28:38] :| [02:28:54] don't worry I'm not going to read them, I just hate publicly logged channels [02:28:56] ,smack neocortex [02:28:57] * rBOTse smacks neocortex with forts [02:29:00] :D [02:29:03] ouch [02:29:09] I know you like to neocortex [02:29:12] it* [02:29:17] :| [02:29:21] i never read the logs [02:29:28] that's for retards [02:29:28] Lara: don't worry I'm not going to read them, I just hate publicly logged channels <--- But there are a lot of goodies. [02:29:40] like what? [02:29:45] I don't think so... [02:29:46] Don't listen to NeoCorTex, you don't die from reading them. [02:29:57] you do too [02:29:59] I already dies from knowing about them! [02:30:01] don't read them [02:30:02] died* [02:30:06] :( [02:30:11] Lara: I don't think so... <--- :( [02:30:16] Alrighty then. [02:30:20] For me it is about openness and trancperancy. If we want others to be willing to work in public so should we [02:30:22] what goodies? [02:30:23] it's like The Ring [02:30:34] don't worry Lara [02:30:37] Lara: read the logs and you'll find them ;) [02:30:37] just don't read them [02:30:45] do not read them [02:30:49] you will die [02:30:51] :| [02:30:56] be quite you :) [02:30:57] *drifts away* [02:31:04] * Lara is in too many channels and confused [02:31:08] grr, quiet* [02:31:11] *** Joins: Diago_ (Diago@B38B54.5998A2.A257D4.D8E16F) [02:31:14] I'm like in 9 myself. [02:31:20] You'll adapt Lara. [02:31:21] :) [02:31:26] hm im in about 20 [02:31:30] oh I'm in way more, in another client... [02:31:32] on this network :x [02:31:37] But then again, I guess it depends what you are using. [02:32:11] BranManFloMore: are you the one who heard my voice by mistake on Ventrilo's chat thing? I was testing settings [02:32:13] i'm in 5 networks and way to many channels to keep up. [02:32:18] RBOSE is the important place :) [02:32:49] Lara: BranManFloMore: are you the one who heard my voice by mistake on Ventrilo's chat thing? I was testing settings <--- I only remember you from IRC, unless you went under a different name in Ventrilo. [02:33:00] *** Quits: Diago (Diago@RBOSE-1370241c.epm.net.co) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [02:33:01] Which was pretty common back then for other people to do. [02:33:30] BranManFloMore: I was mostly just on IRC but Zeitgeist had some Ventrilo voice chat thing too I tried a few times [02:33:46] Yeah, I was a Ventrilo admin back then too. [02:33:48] and one of the ops heard me but I didn't know [02:33:55] Hmmm... [02:34:08] I was just trying to configure it [02:34:18] Well, we use MUMBLE here. [02:34:22] :-D [02:34:26] !m [02:34:26] that's voice chat? [02:34:27] Online @ RBOSE's Mumble: (For Mumble help, type: ?? mumble) [02:34:29] In AFK - Away From Keyboard: Viper [02:34:31] In 01: chrissius [02:34:33] In 01 Priv: DNS [02:34:40] Lara: that's voice chat? <--- Yup yup. [02:34:46] .mumble [02:34:59] ?? mumble [02:35:01] mumble[1]: A low-latency, high-quality voice communication software. [02:35:03] mumble[2]: [host:] rbose.org [port:] 64738 [02:35:05] mumble[3]: [wiki:] http://rbose.org/wiki/Mumble [02:35:07] mumble[4]: Join #mumble channel for support and more information. [02:35:09] mumble[5]: You can search from IRC at the official Mumble wiki by typing: !mu [02:35:40] oh im still idlin in mumble :D [02:35:56] You look so alone DNS. [02:35:58] :( [02:36:19] yes *sniff ); [02:36:21] lol [02:36:27] *** Quits: jonas (jonas@RBOSE-cf498417.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Quit: Leaving.) [02:36:55] i was talikn with lukas some hours ago [02:37:02] Ah, cool. [02:38:25] is there somwhere ( on our servers ) that i can upload the lecture i held last week ? [02:38:50] Upload it on the RBOSE YOUTUBE Channel. [02:38:52] :) [02:38:54] hm we still have no "public" account because of security issues [02:38:55] *** neocortex is now known as Anti-RBOSE [02:39:05] i warned you RBOSE [02:39:08] *** Joins: jonas (jonas@RBOSE-cf498417.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [02:39:13] someone may help me convert it from mpeg to avi as well, it's 2x 1,5gig [02:39:22] about 2x 40 minutes [02:39:28] but if you put it on a ftp, website or on rapidshare megaupload would be gr8 [02:39:30] oh wow [02:39:33] thats quite big [02:39:36] but [02:39:36] Caly: someone may help me convert it from mpeg to avi as well, it's 2x 1,5gig <--- Hmmm... [02:39:39] !sysinfo [02:39:40] Hostname: RBOSE.org - OS: Linux 2.6.26-2-686/i686 - Distro: Debian squeeze/sid - CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (1999.998 MHz) - Processes: 190 - Uptime: 179d 8h 8m - Users: 6 - Load Average: 1.33 - Memory Usage: 449.02MB/1011.56MB (44.39%) - Disk Usage: 7.65GB/148.99GB (5.13%) [02:39:55] enought place on hd [02:39:56] hehe [02:40:00] *enough [02:40:17] Hostname should be btw pest.rbose.org [02:40:22] BranManFloMizzle: yeah, need to compress it a bit, to fkn big. [02:40:23] to not confuse ^^ [02:40:40] Caly: BranManFloMizzle: yeah, need to compress it a bit, to fkn big. <--- I think I can slice it up. [02:41:08] i meant to get that 80 minutes into a 500 meg .avi [02:41:34] it's poor picture and sound quality. digital handycam. [02:41:34] Well... Damn. [02:41:44] but on tripod, so it's stable. [02:41:52] fixed picture i mean. [02:42:02] Ah, I regret having a tripod when I record things too. [02:42:20] anyone here good at cleaning video if so we might be able to do that first [02:42:21] * BranManFloMore thinks about how to compress. [02:42:27] heh, i found one on media markt for something like 20€ [02:42:54] Anti-RBOSE: i warned you RBOSE <--- LoL [02:43:05] well, you can play woth it. the introduction of RBOSE is in Swedish i'm afraid. [02:43:07] *conducts satanic ceremony upon the rbose.org/Logs URL* [02:43:10] but the rest is english [02:43:38] Caly: well, you can play woth it. the introduction of RBOSE is in Swedish i'm afraid. <--- RBOSE is international, we can make some exceptions. [02:43:40] LoL [02:44:11] Yeah, you would have to upload it to the server here then. [02:44:13] :O neo finally followed the LHP [02:44:20] That's too big. [02:44:28] yeah, i can sub it if i can get it up on dotsub.com or something. [02:44:48] Hmmm... They might have the 500 limit too. [02:44:51] well, just tell me hopw. [02:44:55] But I don't know. [02:45:01] Caly: got a transcript of it I can translate and timestamp [02:45:15] if you got..* [02:45:20] to upload it to any of our servers i mean. or to someones FTP perhaps. [02:45:37] Caly: to upload it to any of our servers i mean. or to someones FTP perhaps. <--- You have to ask the man... DNS. [02:45:41] LoL [02:45:44] Ghettotux: no, but you speak Swedish, you translate =P [02:45:53] i GOT TO go to sleep now. [02:46:12] Good night man. [02:46:34] up it first and i'll do it at work tomorrow ;) [02:46:42] best FTP server for Ubuntu ? [02:46:49] gFTP? [02:47:05] FIleZilla? (have they fixed multiple servers yet?) [02:47:15] terminal? [02:47:19] proftpd i like, but its a question of taste :D [02:47:38] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudge_%28book%29 [02:47:39] URL Title: Nudge (book) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) [02:47:56] Anny wviews on this books ideas? [02:48:11] checking. [02:48:28] *holds dripping goats head into the air* [02:48:34] *goat's head* [02:48:48] *artificial goat's head* [02:48:58] *mock goat* [02:49:03] *** Anti-RBOSE is now known as Anti-neocortex [02:49:08] :| [02:49:12] * BranManFloMore is getting confused. [02:49:15] can you not do that please Viper [02:49:24] Viper changes my nick without my permission [02:49:26] I don't like it [02:49:34] damn [02:49:36] :( [02:49:37] Gah. Get back to me with views [02:49:40] *** Anti-neocortex is now known as neocortex [02:49:58] sorry jonas [02:51:49] Look especially at the policy recommendations to change human behaviour [02:55:12] anyone has an FTP i can upload it to? [02:55:52] Hey Caly, do you have an instant messenger for AOL/AIM? [02:56:04] no [02:56:04] 3gb over aim? [02:56:10] lol [02:56:29] Because you could transfer big ass files like that to me that way if you can't get FTP help. [02:56:32] only yanks use AOL [02:56:44] I got AIM :P [02:56:56] becaus for silly yanks :P [02:57:02] »horror» [02:57:08] I guess I'm a silly yank. [02:57:09] LoL [02:57:12] i can help to config proftpd if needed [02:57:22] Views on Libertarian paternalism? [02:57:56] gotta read up on the definition of paternalism [02:58:06] before i can answer. [02:58:15] It's all in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nudge_%28book%29 [02:58:16] URL Title: Nudge (book) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) [02:58:44] The paternalistic portion of the term "lies in the claim that it is legitimate for choice architects to try to influence people's behavior in order to make their lives longer, healthier, and better". [02:58:55] but i'd be happy to. Libertarians in general are good anyway (not the US neo-capitalist definitiion thou) [02:59:38] mkay, sounds like good values to me... [03:01:01] hm i would say Politicians are all bad, and if they are good at least then they become bigger they corrupt or will be killed :-/ [03:01:16] then = when [03:01:50] Who gives anyone the right to influence anyone? [03:01:51] they are maybe some exceptions but i dont know one atm [03:02:26] One of the ideas of Fresco... [03:02:31] *they will be corrupted or will be killed [03:02:49] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice_architecture [03:02:50] URL Title: Choice architecture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) [03:03:07] !w choice architecture [03:03:09] Choice architecture | Choice architecture describes the way in which decisions are influenced by how the choices are presented, and is a term used by Cass Sunstein and economist Richard Thaler in the 2008 book Nudge: Improving Decisions about Health, Wealth, and Happiness. Parallels are drawn between choice architecture and traditional architecture. @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice_architecture [03:03:51] >> A simple example of a nudge would be placing healthy foods in a school cafeteria at eye level, while putting less healthy junk food in harder to reach places [03:04:17] People should be be teached on how to educate themself, when they are self tought they will arrive at their own decissions and not something I or You have come up with [03:04:41] i think so also [03:04:54] people must change themself [03:04:58] Ghettotux: This is based on "two systems that characterize human thought" [03:05:06] the "Reflective System" and the "Automatic System". [03:05:09] human thought by whose standards? [03:05:21] Shall I keep pasting in the article? ;) [03:05:42] I read the article, but what gives them authority? [03:05:45] well i didn't read it [03:05:49] but loked at it :) [03:06:42] I think that the suggestions are reasonable [03:06:55] And its the thing JF talks about [03:07:04] culture influence behaviour [03:07:25] and you could change it to promote better behaviour [03:07:37] sure, the whole environment influence behaviour [03:07:57] i would call it manipulative [03:07:59] fore example by building better transportation [03:08:05] irc.rbose.org doesn't work right? it has to be one of these? 07:03:06 PM DNS777: RBOSE IRC Servers: pest.rbose.org, pms.rbose.org, viper.rbose.org PORT: 6670-6675,6677 SSL: 6697 [03:08:07] or marketing [03:08:16] *** Quits: Diago_ (Diago@B38B54.5998A2.A257D4.D8E16F) (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~) [03:08:19] Of course its manipulative [03:08:23] irc.rbose-.org works fine [03:08:29] irc.rbose.org worx to0 but just points to pest.rbose.org atm [03:08:32] For example a city that creates transportation alternatives to cars [03:08:42] to make it faster for non-cars to get around [03:08:47] Ghettotux: with a dash? [03:08:47] that is manipulation [03:08:52] no :) [03:08:54] that was a typo [03:08:59] it didn't work for me for some resson [03:09:04] reason* [03:09:14] hm maybe its temp off [03:09:18] 07:41:16 PM Info: Looking up server irc.rbose.org [03:09:19] 07:41:16 PM Info: Connecting to server 87.96.145.32:6667 [03:09:19] 07:41:56 PM Info: Not connected [03:09:21] I can try again [03:09:29] wrong port [03:09:50] PORT: 6670-6675,6677 SSL: 6697 [03:10:17] oh [03:10:31] lara you are already here :) [03:10:42] I know... brb :) [03:11:28] *** Quits: Lara (NYC@RBOSE-1b5aa32f.pools.spcsdns.net) (Quit: 11Snak 5.3.3 IRC For Macintosh - http://www.snak.com) [03:11:36] *** Joins: Lara (NYC@RBOSE-fde98ec2.pools.spcsdns.net) [03:15:45] Welcoem back lara :) [03:24:14] thanks :) [03:27:14] ?? pjletter [03:27:15] pjletter[1]: The Letter to Peter Joseph: http://freenet-homepage.de/venusproject/Letter_To_Peter.pdf [03:27:17] pjletter[2]: And his reply: ^_^ http://freenet-homepage.de/venusproject/Peters_Reply_to_the_Letter.pdf [03:30:36] !database [03:33:34] DNS: GREAT! can you make that for the #RBOSE.se bots as well ? [03:33:45] tje ?? pjletter thing. [03:33:49] *the [03:34:20] i could have had use for that one two thimes this last few days. [03:34:50] newcomers asking about such stuff [03:35:15] well i just deleted the trigger temp [03:35:21] becuz links were down [03:35:29] but [03:36:13] look in #rbose.se [03:38:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akm3nYN8aG8 [03:38:22] You4Tube 2[Title] AMAZING SPEECH BY WAR VETERAN 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:04:39 2[Views] 667093 2[Rating] 4.83 2[Uploaded] 2009-12-20 2[Description] If you liked this video, do consider sharing it with your friends and acquaintances. Thank you. Our real enemies are not those living in a distant land whose names or policies we don't understand; The real enemy is a system that wages war when it's profitable, the CEOs who lay us [03:45:17] * BranManFloMore favorites the video. [03:46:35] *** Quits: jonas (jonas@RBOSE-cf498417.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Quit: Leaving.) [03:46:56] *** Joins: jonas (jonas@RBOSE-cf498417.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [03:53:02] *** neocortex is now known as Anti-RBOSE [04:02:00] *** Joins: Urbano (qwebirc@RBOSE-838b6df2.cust.blixtvik.se) [04:03:10] *** Quits: Urbano (qwebirc@RBOSE-838b6df2.cust.blixtvik.se) (Quit: Page closed) [04:13:01] "If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy... The loss of Liberty at home is to be charged to the provisions against danger, real or imagined, from abroad..." -James Madison [04:16:48] !night [04:16:49]