[00:04:54] * DNS 2is listening to 12Just A Dub 2by 12Slim Smith 2on 12None 9[10Exaile9] [00:10:38] *** Joins: faresz (qwebirc@RBOSE-49ecfcd1.catv.broadband.hu) [00:10:51] *** Quits: faresz (qwebirc@RBOSE-49ecfcd1.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [00:12:30] http://techrights.org/2010/10/28/swpats-vs-android-zero-cost/ [00:12:34] URL Title: MPEG-LA Codecs and Microsoft Racketeering Challenge the Redistributability of Linux | Techrights (at techrights.org) [00:24:27] *** Quits: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) (Quit: Leaving) [00:27:09] lol [00:27:25] hi BranManfloMore, GhettoTux, DNS, et. al. [00:27:39] *** Quits: pax (pax@RBOSE-a41e31b4.dip.t-dialin.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [00:27:41] y0 [00:27:55] my manager sided with me over the team-lead jerk from Brisbane [00:27:58] yay! [00:28:09] SharePoint is evil [00:31:14] *** Quits: neocortex (neocortex@RBOSE-bd5c1d12.nxg.net.au) (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [00:34:31] `fortune [00:34:32] <|UFO|> Viper: This was the most unkindest cut of all. -- William Shakespeare, "Julius Caesar" [00:38:55] *** Quits: humanity (qwebirc@RBOSE-60337ecb.flo.bellsouth.net) (Quit: Page closed) [00:44:46] *** Joins: pax (pax@RBOSE-1f9ac224.dip.t-dialin.net) [01:00:32] *** Quits: Absalom (xxx@RBOSE-f0bcc352.bredband.comhem.se) (Quit: ) [01:43:59] http://www.sott.net/articles/show/217226-US-deal-brings-Russia-to-Afghanistan [01:44:01] URL Title: US deal brings Russia to Afghanistan -- Signs of the Times News (at www.sott.net) [01:56:43] *** Quits: pax (pax@RBOSE-1f9ac224.dip.t-dialin.net) (Quit: cya) [01:58:46] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdFlFxJFnfY&feature=pyv&ad=6361137733&kw=fruity%20loops&gclid=CIaY-6vP_aQCFQl_5Qod2kbWiA [01:58:47] You4Tube 2[Title] Jeremy Ellis performing on Maschine 2[Category] Music 2[Duration] 0:02:32 2[Views] 26598 2[Rating] 4.85 2[Uploaded] 2010-10-19 2[Description] Jeremy Ellis, an acclaimed master on the 16 pads, delivers a stellar Maschine performance from the rooftops of LA. For more information, go to http://native-instruments.com/maschine [02:00:04] Now I want to make a beat. [02:00:09] Errrrr.... [02:00:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CLOi2Zw7Uw [02:00:55] You4Tube 2[Title] MPD BEAT MAKING 24 SOUR BEATS 2[Category] People 2[Duration] 0:04:59 2[Views] 89200 2[Rating] 4.73 2[Uploaded] 2007-07-07 2[Description] OLD BEAT MAKING VIDEOS ..CHECK OUT MY NEW MUSIC AT MYSPACE.COM/SOURBEATS NEW PROJECTS TO BE ON THE LOOK OUT FOR: DOEY ROCK: "HE SAY SHE SAY" AND "WHAT IT LOOK LIKE" OFF NEW ALBUM MIND CANDY UPTOWN SUITE OF TYCOON VILLAGE: Produced by SUNDAYS BEST (LEE BANNON, SOUR BEATS [02:01:45] hehe [02:48:13] *** Joins: Caro (Caro-RBOSE@RBOSE-9bd78530.cm.vtr.net) [02:49:00] Hi Caro welcome back [02:49:13] y0 Caro [02:58:24] *** Quits: Antilect (Markus@RBOSE-e6ebb2a4.tbcn.telia.com) (Client closed the connection) [02:58:24] -|UFO|- Mecha has quit FREENODE (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [03:35:28] *** Quits: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-5aa36246.biz.rr.com) (Quit: Leaving.) 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[10:19:51] WHAT [10:19:52] :| [10:20:03] How did you finde about RBOSE? [10:20:06] :) [10:20:07] I never see you on TZM [10:20:12] lol [10:20:14] i like RBOSE [10:20:23] i find RBOSE to be 'friendly' [10:20:29] HOW did you finde it? [10:20:41] i find RBOSE to be a 'happy place' [10:20:47] with 'happy people' [10:21:00] i was conscripted [10:21:05] someone approached me [10:21:09] and said come hither [10:21:10] that was not my question [10:21:31] i did not find it [10:21:34] it was presented to me [10:21:38] i was invited [10:21:41] :D [10:21:49] and who was that? [10:21:55] not telling [10:22:03] you can tell me in PM [10:22:19] na [10:22:22] not telling [10:22:30] unless i speak with him first [10:22:35] (or her) [10:22:41] and ask for his approval [10:22:47] (or her approval) [10:22:49] its your boss? LOL [10:22:52] lol [10:22:53] no [10:23:06] but [10:23:07] WHY [10:23:12] why do you want to know [10:23:22] because i never see you on tzm [10:23:29] Maybe you use other name there [10:23:31] is TZM still running? [10:23:36] no ... i don't go there [10:23:46] i made them angry [10:24:03] i dont care about tzm, only would like to know the way you finde rbose [10:24:11] oh [10:24:13] why? [10:24:40] because i would like to know [10:24:41] do you still go to TZM? [10:24:44] lol [10:25:12] is it a secret? [10:25:48] i dont care about tzm so i do not go [10:26:48] so what was your nick on tzm? Or thats a secret too Haha [10:27:12] ,pillow neocortex [10:27:12] * rBOTse quickly throws a pillow in the face of neocortex [10:27:16] :D [10:27:54] lol [10:27:55] sorry [10:27:58] getting dinner [10:28:00] no secret [10:28:07] #1 'neocortex' [10:28:11] #2 'neuron' [10:28:22] and it's not a secret [10:28:26] :) [10:28:41] but i don't like talking about people [10:28:55] i was talking about You with you lol [10:29:16] but you want to know 'who' invited me to RBOSE [10:29:25] no [10:29:28] lol [10:29:29] How you finde rbose [10:29:44] someone invited me [10:29:59] ok hehe [10:30:06] lol [10:31:20] it was a rather distubing experience [10:31:36] i was really into TZM before that [10:32:08] to see it fracture was disheartening [10:32:22] I join because i did not like religion [10:32:31] cool [10:32:33] Not because of Penus Project [10:32:37] haha [10:32:45] TZM is very religious [10:33:40] with their 'chapters' and everything [10:33:50] oh i dont care about them [10:34:01] me too [10:35:36] *** Quits: Viper (god@ONEforALL.ALLforONE) (Connection closed) [10:36:07] *** Joins: Out`Of`Control (Viper@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [10:36:15] *** Out`Of`Control is now known as Viper [10:36:23] lol [10:37:02] <|UFO|> 11<11Viper@FREENODE11> i miss something? [10:37:11] <|UFO|> 11<11Viper@FREENODE11> hehe [10:37:32] lol [10:38:32] *** Joins: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) [10:39:25] Hey Kimsan :) [10:39:33] Yo! [10:39:38] How are you? [10:40:08] *** Joins: God (God@localhost) [10:40:23] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@A96332.4D8120.2FBE55.18EB87) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [10:40:40] Fine. My telephone woke me up, it was a guy from a staffing company who held a long interview with me, and it went very well [10:40:50] :D [10:41:07] Then, he said, "but it is crucial for this job, that you have another 50% occupation for this part-time job" [10:41:14] he couldn't said that in the beginning of the interview? [10:41:15] punk [10:41:54] haha [10:42:20] What's up with y0uz? [10:42:32] hi Kimsan [10:42:43] 'lo neo [10:42:46] i fine thanks, not much going on here [10:44:47] My life's goddamn slow too [10:45:23] monday is always slow here [10:49:56] *** Joins: Julius (Julius@RBOSE-79dad6bf.pool.telekom.hu) [10:50:51] morning Julius ! :D [10:51:25] !morning all [10:51:27] ACTION wishes everbody in #RBOSE a wonderful morning and a great start in the day! [10:51:35] Hey Viper! :-) [10:55:00] *** Quits: GhettoTux (martin@RBOSE.org) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [10:55:21] *** Quits: FAT64 (herp@RBOSE-ed9e99c3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [11:00:19] hi Julius [11:03:32] *** Quits: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [11:04:17] wb neocortex! :-D [11:04:23] How are you doing? [11:10:05] good thanks [11:10:18] just setting up a new mobile phone [11:10:21] with windows 7 [11:10:29] how are you? [11:10:42] and watching a documentary [11:10:47] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9062686789826124131# [11:10:48] URL Title: The Other Israel -- (Jewish conspiracy for world control) (at video.google.com) [11:16:37] *** Joins: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-f9e155ad.mweb.co.za) [11:17:48] *** Joins: Absalom (xxx@RBOSE-f0bcc352.bredband.comhem.se) [11:20:25] neocortex: I would have been disappointed if you came up with something different story. :-D [11:20:34] lol [11:20:45] it's a good documentary [11:21:07] I'm looking for a new job, but other than that I'm ok. [11:21:13] thx [11:21:58] good luck [11:22:05] where do you want to work? [11:22:10] at home [11:22:16] ;-) [11:22:17] lol [11:22:30] me too [11:22:54] so, good luck you too [11:22:57] lol [11:23:00] lol [11:23:06] :) [11:30:54] *** Quits: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-f9e155ad.mweb.co.za) (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [11:41:02] *** Quits: Julius (Julius@psyc.RBOSE) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [11:48:38] *** Joins: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) [11:51:04] *** Joins: Julius (Julius@RBOSE-79dad6bf.pool.telekom.hu) [11:55:14] *** Quits: Julius (Julius@psyc.RBOSE) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [11:55:33] *** Quits: neocortex (Hermes@RBOSE-a8f64865.iinet.net.au) (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [12:02:05] *** Joins: Mecha (Markus@RBOSE-e6ebb2a4.tbcn.telia.com) [12:02:44] -|UFO|- Mecha has joined on FREENODE [12:03:37] -|UFO|- Kebap23 has joined on FREENODE [12:03:38] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Kebap23 [12:06:15] *** Joins: hakufus (hakke@RBOSE-69636b4d.customer.telia.com) [12:09:23] *** Quits: Hakufu (hakke@A26478.2B37D0.EA3523.B4E6F4) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [12:16:41] *** Joins: neocortex (Hermes@RBOSE-a8f64865.iinet.net.au) [12:43:41] *** Joins: faresz (qwebirc@RBOSE-49ecfcd1.catv.broadband.hu) [12:54:28] *** Joins: humanity (qwebirc@E0E056.37BB12.CBB70F.F72205) [12:54:44] ,morning [12:54:45] * rBOTse wishes everbody in #RBOSE a wonderful morning and a great start in the day! [12:58:46] !morning humanity [12:58:47] ACTION wishes humanity a Good Morning :-) (And not only because neocortex requested that.) [13:09:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPpk-1btGZk [13:09:04] You4Tube 2[Title] Authors@Google: Donald Knuth 2[Category] Tech 2[Duration] 1:07:11 2[Views] 26444 2[Rating] 4.20 2[Uploaded] 2009-03-17 2[Description] Professor Donald Knuth visits Google's Mountain View, CA headquarters to discuss the interactions between faith and science. This event took place on March 16, 2009, as part of the Authors@Google series. In the fall of 1999, Donald was invited to give six public lectures at [13:31:37] b-b-b-b-b but i-i-i-iif you can s-s-sstand his t-t-t-talk,lol [13:32:50] *** Joins: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-5eee5520.res.rr.com) [13:38:42] BranMan is early [13:38:45] whats up [13:45:17] hey [13:45:39] *** Quits: faresz (qwebirc@RBOSE-49ecfcd1.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [13:53:48] *** Joins: ebro (qwebirc@RBOSE-c65dd087.c-220.tvnetwork.hu) [13:54:16] *** Quits: ebro (qwebirc@RBOSE-c65dd087.c-220.tvnetwork.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [13:55:24] morning humanity BranManFloMore :) [13:56:15] Hey Viper [14:11:24] *** Quits: neocortex (Hermes@RBOSE-a8f64865.iinet.net.au) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [14:13:19] hi guys! [14:13:27] y0 y0 [14:15:41] *** Quits: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [14:27:08] *** Joins: pax (pax@RBOSE-1f9ac224.dip.t-dialin.net) [14:27:56] greets [14:28:35] *** Joins: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) [14:28:40] Hell0 [14:28:45] hi :) [14:29:19] * pax throws candy into the # [14:29:30] * BranManFloMore laughs [14:29:47] I think that's all I ate yesterday. [14:30:01] :D [14:30:05] haha [14:32:40] *** Quits: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [14:36:55] i wondered if anyone of you guys had a little time expanding on the chapter in the pss book about open source and free licences [14:38:45] sure pax :D [14:40:06] that would be great, as i am not able to fill 10-30 letter-sized pages with correct information on that subject [14:45:11] *** Viper is now known as Phantom [14:52:52] ,any kman [14:52:52] lukas: kman was last seen in #RBOSE 2 days, 16 hours, 55 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: *** kman has quit IRC (Connection closed) [14:59:06] *** Joins: halott (qwebirc@RBOSE-73e3e98e.pool.t-online.hu) [15:00:30] *** Quits: halott (qwebirc@RBOSE-73e3e98e.pool.t-online.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [15:02:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4_LEo2yqyg&feature=player_embedded [15:02:06] You4Tube 2[Title] Brazil's Silent Revolution 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:04:00 2[Views] 3141 2[Rating] 4.75 2[Uploaded] 2010-10-29 2[Description] In a country characterized by a a vast divide between the haves and have nots, the poor are making a comeback. Brazil's social program Bolsa Familia has helped lift millions out of poverty, narrowing the divide between rich and poor, fueling the rise of one of the fastest growin [15:02:16] we talked about starting in Brazil [15:03:40] *** Joins: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) [15:07:42] *** Quits: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) (Quit: Leaving) [15:20:25] *** Quits: humanity (qwebirc@E0E056.37BB12.CBB70F.F72205) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [15:23:44] *** Joins: humanity (qwebirc@E0E056.37BB12.CBB70F.F72205) [15:25:48] *** Joins: faresz (qwebirc@RBOSE-49ecfcd1.catv.broadband.hu) [15:30:34] Hmm. To say that something needs to be done, and then be contented advocating others working on the problem... I guess I don't really understand what purpose the RBEF actually serves. If the only purpose is to be a clearinghouse for donations to other good projects then there is no need for any of this discussion, and certainly no place for people like myself who are absolutely broke. [15:30:44] Aneiren quote [15:31:01] forgot" " [15:31:15] Hmmm.... [15:31:45] only discussions is all i see [15:32:10] im ready for an experiment [15:32:25] is capitalism the best? [15:32:49] is socialism better than capitalism? [15:34:09] "The socialist perspective is generally based on materialism and the understanding that human behavior is largely shaped by the social environment. In particular, scientific socialism holds that social mores, values, cultural traits and economic practices are not the property of some immutable natural law but exist relative to the specific form of social organization in existence, which itself is determined by the level of technological and mat [15:34:24] Socialists generally argue that socialism is an attempt to bring social organization up to the level of current technological progress to fully take advantage of modern technology, and that capitalism is either obsolete or approaching obsolescence as a viable system for producing and distributing wealth in an effective manner. [15:34:34] Socialists generally share the view that capitalism concentrates power and wealth within a small segment of society that controls the means of production and derives its wealth through a system of exploitation. This creates a stratified society based on unequal social relations that fails to provide equal opportunities for every individual to maximize their potential,[14] and does not utilise available technology and resources to their maximum [15:34:58] and focuses on satisfying market-induced wants as opposed to human needs. Socialists argue that socialism would allow for wealth to be distributed based on how much one contributes to society, as opposed to how much capital one holds. [15:35:08] Compliments of RedSonya [15:35:20] she wants to start a community [15:35:29] http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=231&id=298293 [15:35:38] URL Title: Need a career? - The Zeitgeist Movement (at www.thezeitgeistmovement.com) [15:36:14] oh shit, there is a bite [15:36:25] one wants to get started [15:36:31] do i hear three? [15:37:18] *** Joins: Diago (Diago@RBOSE-25d2752d.epm.net.co) [15:42:18] diago is an RBe fan? [15:43:18] where in facebook? [15:43:47] no in general [15:43:55] it coulb be a reality [15:44:35] something other than money [15:44:50] team players [15:44:57] it will happen when ppl stop talking and start doing :) [15:45:03] yup! [15:45:05] yes, I like your thinking [15:45:51] I agree kalken [15:46:11] so seriously what country? [15:46:16] BRazil? [15:46:27] any 3rd world country [15:46:59] tools are what needed [15:47:03] why not join those guys in britain? http://www.justfortheloveofit.org/blog-3781 [15:47:05] URL Title: justfortheloveofit.org | Promoting Skillsharing | Learn Skills, share tools, save money and make great new friends (at www.justfortheloveofit.org) [15:47:38] http://rbefoundation.com/grouptopic.php?f=11&t=2303 [15:47:40] URL Title: Brazil Land - Possible First Project (at rbefoundation.com) [15:50:58] a city is infact built by a large number of components. So either one develope all those components and then build the city, or one built something that one can work with and build it upgradable... I dont see the time where ppl will just give up their companies and say something like "you are right, i will give all my stuff away for a better cause". I think it have to come from another kind of development that put the technology in the hand [15:54:38] the vast majority of people is not and wil not likely give up their lifestyle. that leaves us alone with our ideas. i do not see any rbe city get built in the near future. [15:55:50] exactly. Most people are only interested in choosing between alternatives, not making an alternative happen [15:55:53] (sadly) [15:56:50] thats why people who think different need to build stuff in small scale and show them what the alternative is :) [15:58:07] and thats basically why every organization that promotes some kind of RBE-society need to understand the importance of putting the technology in the hands of individuals (by releasing it free to use and improve for everyone) [15:58:40] because otherwise ppl will always be slaves to the corporate or organizational structure [16:00:24] afaiak... [16:01:33] there's surely points in that, although I think the main problem are thought patterns rather than actual technical problems. [16:03:10] what do you mean by "patterns"? [16:04:25] the concept of ownership, the concept of making a living instead of relating to the foundations of life, the concept of dominance, and similar ways of looking at things [16:04:37] kalken, word [16:05:18] the thought that people need governance [16:06:55] we already have twice as much food as needed. we already have desalination techniques, we already have everything needed to make life abundant for everyone. it is just thoughts that prevent us from behaving more reasonable [16:07:38] i think of it as the need to getting all those companies to go around and the economy to grow [16:08:09] all decisions about what a company should do is based on the economics behind doing stuff [16:08:45] and thats serious problem when it comes to not only looking after ones own interest, but the whole global interest [16:09:09] if we had another four planets, growth would be an option [16:09:25] haha [16:09:38] i'm glad we have not got 4 more planets to destroy [16:11:37] *** Joins: halott (qwebirc@RBOSE-73e3e98e.pool.t-online.hu) [16:11:41] *** Quits: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-5eee5520.res.rr.com) (Quit: Leaving.) [16:13:45] I surely agree that a responsibly acting person keeps the planet's fate in mind, but let's not mistake that with saving humanity. first, it is necessary to provide for yourself before you can save anyone else. second, people dont want do be saved. this is too much for handful of people to accomplish within a few remainng years. [16:15:23] this does not mean we have to lay down and die, but it sure has consequences to choosing the strategy most likely to succeed [16:16:16] *** Joins: Nauti (katt@RBOSE-e81b0980.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [16:16:24] *** Parts: Nauti (katt@RBOSE-e81b0980.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [16:17:07] *** Joins: Nauti (katt@RBOSE-e81b0980.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [16:17:46] *** Parts: Nauti (katt@RBOSE-e81b0980.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [16:18:30] -|UFO|- Mecha has quit FREENODE (Quit: Lämnar) [16:18:40] *** Mecha is now known as Antilect [16:32:17] pax: i agree. But i see everyday that "the movement" is much bigger than RBE-communities and things are happening all over the place. Though it seems that most ppl want to figure out solutions within the financial system (that created most of the problem in the first place), im sure that in a near future, more and more ppl will start looking outside this box [16:33:31] seems like its time to use the exponential function to our advantage by spreading that message everywhere we can :) [16:34:28] if i have a good idea, and spread it to two persons in one day, and they do the same with two new persons each, it will take about 32 days until everybody on earth know about the idea [16:35:02] thats an utopian model ofc, but still shows the potential in using the exponential function by just affecting the thoughts and things around oneself [16:36:16] kalken: sure. I didn't intend to sound negative. I see the same happening all around. but that is because we are looking for it. the system won't go away before it breaks down. until then, it is up to everyone's personal choice whether s/he continues to participate in it or not. [16:36:25] *** Joins: Julius (Julius@RBOSE-2427b678.pool.telekom.hu) [16:37:19] pax: yes i fear that two. But maybe it has to happen that way then. Too many people seem just to be concerned with fixing the problems they can see in front of them right now. [16:37:59] and its not anyones right to tell others what they must do. Just what they think is a better alternative :) [16:38:21] otherwise we'll just get stuck in these endless discussions about opinions :) [16:38:53] and that we certainly not have time for right now. :) [16:43:16] kalken: if it takes a crash, that's alright by me. there is no need to be afraid of it unless one is stuck in the system's way of thinking. also I don't see this discussion as an exchange of opinions rather than asking for taking the consequences of what we know or can see as likely events. [16:44:06] what happened guys? [16:45:14] just killing time ;) [16:45:24] :-D [16:45:54] pax: in two years i hope that i'm in a small community somewhere, working with people not for money, but for what we can do for each other [16:46:47] and when my income (for getting through next month) food-wise etc is obsolete, then everyday can be to create things and give them/ show them two others [16:47:02] *to [16:47:12] kalken: sounds great. you have already chosen one/some place or are you building from scratch? [16:47:31] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-5b61570f.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [16:47:35] i dont know yet. Trying to figure out technics that is needed etc [16:48:09] seems like some place warmer is the best alternative, where one can grow and build relatively cheap housing etc [16:48:48] costa rica seems interesting. (they get about 99% of their energy from renewable resources) [16:48:58] wow [16:49:24] Herroh :3 [16:49:26] http://www.metaefficient.com/renewable-power/costa-rica-is-99-powered-by-renewable-energy.html [16:49:27] URL Title: Costa Rica Is 99% Powered By Renewable Energy >> MetaEfficient Reviews (at www.metaefficient.com) [16:49:40] kalken: and where the resource came from to build that system? [16:50:18] Julius: what do you mean? [16:50:53] you need heat pumps, wind turbine, ... [16:51:24] ofc, its all done in the current system so its ppl doing stuff for money [16:51:27] from where the resource comes to build those devices [16:51:35] ah, ok [16:52:21] such things can be built from local or regional material as well. auroville did that to great extent. [16:52:40] but its way better than most other countries sitting and discussing that they dont have money to care about the environment : / [16:53:44] the most important thing is to get started. as soon as a society is running people can figure out how to proceed in case of shortages of certain resources [16:54:00] *** Joins: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) [16:54:14] pax: i agree :) [16:57:46] I agree [16:58:56] dang i feel behind on the conversation, but i do see 99percent renewable energy [16:59:23] ketchup, man ;) [16:59:23] i will have to read up here in for a minute or twenty [17:04:01] real quick, does anyone know what it takes to start a company? [17:04:21] like where the money comes from to start one [17:04:37] lol [17:05:00] how big companys dont pay taxes [17:05:35] anything about a non profit organization? [17:06:53] what exactly are you looking for? [17:08:33] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-5b61570f.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [17:14:38] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-5b61570f.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [17:17:20] hi kman :D [17:18:23] lukas, ^^ [17:19:30] *** Joins: martin (martin@RBOSE-e81b0980.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [17:19:35] *** martin is now known as GhettoTux [17:20:25] Oh hi gais! [17:21:23] hello :) [17:21:28] hi tux [17:21:35] !hug all [17:21:37] * RBOSE expands his arms and hugs the whole #RBOSE. :D [17:21:41] How are you my friends? [17:22:28] * lukas is busy as always [17:22:51] Busy with things you enjoy I hope :) [17:28:03] well, sometimes stuff which i do really pisses me, but to have progress one must quit the zone of comfort - no body cannot improve physical condition without training, cannot improve intellectually by solving problems he already know how to solve, spiritually by turning face from people in need, and emotionally by relations which are simple [17:29:36] well put, my friend [17:31:08] well, one should enjoy hardship as well as leasure. one cannot exists without the other, only question is if you leave the hardship for others. [17:39:19] GhettoTux, definitely I enjoy it as a whole :) [17:42:38] Awesome :) [17:44:12] *** Quits: Julius (Julius@psyc.RBOSE) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [18:02:45] http://www.rbefoundation.com/grouptopic.php?f=29&t=2888 [18:02:48] URL Title: Thorium (at www.rbefoundation.com) [18:18:28] *** Joins: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9e1488fa.catv.broadband.hu) [18:21:55] humanity: Well... isn't it a crappy temporary "solution" to our current problems? [18:22:15] And doesn't it leave just as bad leftover as uranium nuclear reactors? [18:26:41] lukas: http://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM/TheWorkshop#5534193605927952530 [18:26:42] URL Title: Picasa Web Albums - Calyptratus RBOSE - The workshop (at picasaweb.google.com) [18:28:44] need a tap? [18:28:47] lol [18:29:05] i though it was less ghettotux? [18:29:40] eco friendly? [18:29:55] therion is more eco friendly than uranium [18:30:15] yes [18:30:24] so they say [18:31:01] There were a lot of talk about revenue though, which isn't a good reason to invest ;) [18:31:09] At least not if you don't like money :P [18:31:13] use less and get more out [18:31:20] lol [18:31:46] I'd rather refine solar wave and wind thingies :) [18:32:13] or "MAGNETS"! [18:32:17] future is magnets :P [18:32:23] they are a miracle [18:35:36] Looks great Caly! Huge potential there :) [18:35:43] http://lh3.ggpht.com/_mPcF5SbVOEc/TM23zc008HI/AAAAAAAAFDA/rtZqDikyPpM/IMG_5012.JPG lol :D [18:36:12] Caly: I just came a little [18:36:25] what are the wooden tools? not the handles http://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM/TheWorkshop#5534195749173359138 [18:36:27] URL Title: Picasa Web Albums - Calyptratus RBOSE - The workshop (at picasaweb.google.com) [18:36:49] what will you do with the printers? [18:37:36] for you to know and me to find out, lol [18:38:01] http://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM/TheWorkshop#5534194847962297106 [18:38:03] URL Title: Picasa Web Albums - Calyptratus RBOSE - The workshop (at picasaweb.google.com) [18:38:35] drink milk, but yes i agree [18:38:37] *** Quits: pax (pax@RBOSE-1f9ac224.dip.t-dialin.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [18:38:43] welding is a bad [18:39:18] humanity: Oh, we are making a database where we logg dismanteling of such stuff, and make a comprehensive tool for reusing the parts and materials. [18:40:08] printers has stepper motors, belts, axles, diodes, LCD-displays, power adaptors and so on. [18:40:24] yes, i thought about that after, im slow [18:41:14] *** DNS is now known as GhettoGnu [18:41:23] Scanners have stepper motors, glass plate ofc, a small bright 12v flourecent tube light, power adaptor ofc, belts, axles etx. [18:41:26] *etc. [18:41:54] enough scanners and i can make a greenhouse! with winter lighting! [18:41:55] =P [18:42:02] 'brb [18:43:41] *** Joins: pax (pax@RBOSE-1f9ac224.dip.t-dialin.net) [18:51:26] http://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM/HousingInspiration#5481913963781322514 [18:51:28] URL Title: Picasa Web Albums - Calyptratus RBOSE - Housing inspi... (at picasaweb.google.com) [18:51:32] that was ingenious! [18:51:33] *** Quits: pax (pax@RBOSE-1f9ac224.dip.t-dialin.net) (Quit: cya) [18:54:46] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@A96332.9941FA.CDF30F.28F402) [19:00:03] -|UFO|- Kebap_23 has joined on FREENODE [19:00:04] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Kebap_23 [19:02:38] -|UFO|- Kebap23 has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [19:13:52] "I agree. Iceland is the perfect country for a transition to an RBE to happen. Along with New Zealand and Canada." Gasto [19:14:19] Icelanders place relatively great importance on independence and self-sufficiency; in a European Commission public opinion analysis over 85% of Icelanders found independence to be "very important" contrasted with the EU25 average of 53%, and 47% for the Norwegians, and 49% for the Danes. [19:20:46] *** Joins: Julius (Julius@RBOSE-8f8ddf6c.pool.t-online.hu) [19:21:29] Hey folks! you need a light? [19:21:30] http://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM/TheWorkshop#5534194887734624706 [19:21:35] URL Title: Picasa Web Albums - Calyptratus RBOSE - The workshop (at picasaweb.google.com) [19:22:16] kman: lite dioder att leka med där med... =P [19:22:36] *** Quits: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9e1488fa.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [19:26:03] lundburgerr-TZM, fortfarande inget liv.. Hmm... [19:26:31] There was a guy in Guyana that wanted help from Roxane and Jaques Fresco, but apparently they could not help him build a self-sustainable city. [19:26:33] lol [19:29:14] *** Joins: ciacon (quassel@RBOSE-86237ea2.unitymediagroup.de) [19:29:46] PC vs MAC ==>> http://asset.soup.io/asset/1184/9254_70cb.jpeg [19:36:04] humanity: i wonder why people still want to push a RBE... peter said very clearly thats about building a central computer. seems people do not realize what they support [19:36:11] Caly: nice pix [19:36:16] ciacon: lol [19:41:46] lukas g here? [19:43:27] ^^ [19:45:21] GhettoGnu: There, i call you on that one! PJ is a great guy, he achieved alot, but he's not perfect, and i highly doubt that neither he or those he try to attract, knows about technologies for decentralized hosting of "centralized" data. [19:46:29] i just say that is his agenda, not mine [19:47:06] That is one of the reasons why the general TZM notion about the need for worldwide synchronized change. That can be made on peer base, naturally evolving and spreading, no notions of nation state applies, and therefore is rendered pontless. [19:47:38] i think a RBE can not work at all with a central computer, thats what hes thinkin, but i wonder what kind of mindset is this, you know? [19:47:56] *synchronized change is actually faulty. [19:48:56] Yeah, still not grasping the power off openness anf flat structure peer-based emergent nature [19:49:17] Wich i find hillarious as he's said to be such an expert on understanding animals and all... ^^ [19:50:52] *** Joins: Diago_ (Diago@RBOSE-1d5fb0bd.epm.net.co) [19:51:10] tbh i think hes good at pointing at problems but it seems that hes not good in solving problems, because like he said there should be technicians makin technical descisions but i dont see that is happenin, and if then i wonder what kind of technicans these are. [19:51:48] *** Quits: Diago (Diago@RBOSE-25d2752d.epm.net.co) (Client closed the connection) [19:53:48] *** Quits: Julius (Julius@psyc.RBOSE) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [19:54:16] hi humanity, my computer went offline shortly after you asked if i'm around - do you need anything? [19:56:46] *** Quits: faresz (qwebirc@RBOSE-49ecfcd1.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [19:57:57] just wondering if you were Luckasg talking about OSE 2 minute plan? [19:58:24] GhettoGnu: you are confusing me, I think it is I who write all these silly things you are saying :P [19:58:25] no [19:58:55] http://www.kumla.se/images/18.6468389b11860bee7bd80001409/snickis.jpg [19:59:04] what do you call that in english? [19:59:19] worktable? [19:59:33] ,t sv en snickis [19:59:34] GhettoTux: snickis [19:59:37] ,t sv en snickarbänk [19:59:39] GhettoTux: carpenter's bench [19:59:44] there you go :) [20:00:27] GhettoTux: eh i dont see what was silly? [20:00:51] Well nothing really, just hat it was almost me that said it that made it silly :) [20:00:59] hehe [20:01:05] i'm confused all the same [20:01:14] *** GhettoGnu is now known as GnuGhetto [20:01:17] better? [20:01:23] haha [20:01:35] *** GnuGhetto is now known as DNS [20:01:45] *** GhettoTux is now known as GnuTuxIntercourse [20:01:52] :> [20:01:55] http://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM/TheWorkshop#5534195749173359138 [20:01:58] URL Title: Picasa Web Albums - Calyptratus RBOSE - The workshop (at picasaweb.google.com) [20:02:01] *** GnuTuxIntercourse is now known as GhettoTux [20:02:06] what sre the two wooden tools? [20:02:27] two? [20:02:40] you mean the one at the bottom and the one third from bottom? [20:02:50] ,t sv en hyvel [20:02:51] GhettoTux: planer [20:02:57] is the one second from the bottom [20:03:47] thanks [20:05:07] ,t sv en kil [20:05:08] kalken: wedge [20:06:07] !hug rBOTse [20:06:08] * RBOSE hugs rBOTse for kalken and hopes that rBOTse enjoys it. :) [20:07:28] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@A96332.9941FA.CDF30F.28F402) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [20:09:53] *** Quits: halott (qwebirc@RBOSE-73e3e98e.pool.t-online.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [20:11:32] http://realestate.yahoo.com/promo/a-dream-houses-difficult-birth.html?bust_cache=1 [20:11:33] URL Title: A Dream House's Difficult Birth - Yahoo! Real Estate (at realestate.yahoo.com) [20:11:40] sigh! [20:14:57] -|UFO|- plautus has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) [20:15:14] millions on one house [20:15:31] seems right? [20:15:51] to them apparently :D [20:16:03] right is something individual, always [20:16:38] so why prosecute,lol [20:16:46] whos right? 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I got really hooked on this site! http://www.bob-easton.com/blog/?cat=11 [20:36:17] URL Title: Bob Easton » workbench (at www.bob-easton.com) [20:36:31] and stuff like: http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/Merchant/merchant.mvc?Screen=NEXT&StoreCode=toolstore&nextpage=/extra/bowsawdesign.html [20:36:34] Caly's URL: http://tinyurl.com/39g3al7 [20:36:35] URL Title: The Gramercy Tools Bow Saw - Design Considerations at Tools for Working Wood (at www.toolsforworkingwood.com) [20:49:31] "laywer usually win those battles" lol [20:49:59] i hope mines is good [20:53:16] :) [20:56:00] *** Quits: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [21:22:47] *** Joins: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-5aa36246.biz.rr.com) [21:26:16] *** Joins: neocortex (Hermes@RBOSE-a8f64865.iinet.net.au) [21:31:26] http://gnuart.onshore.com/uncle_gnu_i_want.html [21:31:27] URL Title: Uncle GNU Art (at gnuart.onshore.com) [21:34:11] !morning all [21:34:12] ACTION wishes everbody in #RBOSE a wonderful morning and a great start in the day! [21:34:33] *** Quits: warpi (warpi@RBOSE-8d343622.mobileonline.telia.com) (Connection closed) [21:40:26] *** Joins: ciacon_ (quassel@RBOSE-86237ea2.unitymediagroup.de) [21:41:10] *** Quits: ciacon (quassel@RBOSE-86237ea2.unitymediagroup.de) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [21:46:30] http://facepwn.com/posters/dedication0800.jpg [21:46:48] this one is for you, tanktop! [21:46:50] xD [21:47:07] LoL [21:47:40] lol [21:49:19] this one is for you Anarchy: http://facepwn.com/posters/defeat.jpg [21:51:41] so who owns greece now [21:53:23] ^^ [21:53:44] Ok, i'll pass one along to PJ and Jaque as well i suppose... http://facepwn.com/posters/delusions.jpg [21:55:05] * BranManFloMore laughs [21:55:37] This is offensive to the Wright Brothers, how dare you Caly. [21:55:41] LoL [21:56:31] later [21:56:36] peace [21:56:59] *** Quits: humanity (qwebirc@E0E056.37BB12.CBB70F.F72205) (Quit: Page closed) [22:05:26] *** Joins: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) [22:18:02] *** Quits: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [22:18:45] *** Quits: hakufus (hakke@RBOSE-69636b4d.customer.telia.com) (Quit: Lämnar) [22:19:13] *** Joins: ciacon (quassel@RBOSE-86237ea2.unitymediagroup.de) [22:19:27] *** Quits: ciacon_ (quassel@RBOSE-86237ea2.unitymediagroup.de) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [22:25:37] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-5b61570f.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [22:27:19] *** Joins: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) [22:50:19] *** Joins: SociedadDeCaca (SociedadDeCac@RBOSE-db9f37f7.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) [22:50:35] hola? [22:50:46] What's up? [22:50:49] hey! [22:50:57] sorry i tought that was a spanish room [22:51:27] so whats up there? [22:51:45] *** Joins: pax (pax@RBOSE-1f9ac224.dip.t-dialin.net) [22:52:02] hi there :) [22:52:07] *** Quits: SociedadDeCaca (SociedadDeCac@RBOSE-db9f37f7.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) (Quit: www.RBOSE.org) [22:52:21] Hmmm... I thought we had a spanish room. [22:52:29] o [22:52:30] :) [22:52:41] Oh well. [22:52:55] BranManFloMore: in my defence, the Wright Brothers wasn't all talk, they were into trial and error, hence theirr sucess! [22:53:15] http://www.openwsn.net/index.php?page=network-topology [22:53:16] Trial and Error FTW [22:53:17] URL Title: OPEN WSN - An open source multihop sensor network based on arduino - Network Topology (at www.openwsn.net) [22:53:18] :) [22:53:32] * BranManFloMore burps [22:55:02] http://www.libelium.com/squidbee/index.php?title=Main_Page [22:55:03] URL Title: Main Page - SquidBee (at www.libelium.com) [23:07:55] *** Quits: neocortex (Hermes@RBOSE-a8f64865.iinet.net.au) (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [23:10:37] *** Quits: pax (pax@RBOSE-1f9ac224.dip.t-dialin.net) (Client closed the connection) [23:12:34] *** Quits: Diago_ (Diago@RBOSE-1d5fb0bd.epm.net.co) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [23:24:35] http://gawker.com/5501846/terrifying-poop-gas-bubbles-will-kill-us-all WHAT?! :D [23:24:36] URL Title: Terrifying Poop Gas Bubbles Will Kill Us All (at gawker.com) [23:25:25] That's just unacceptable. [23:26:54] INdeed, I do not want to die from poop gas [23:28:31] *** Quits: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@5048B2.E9D5BE.E339CA.C53C66) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [23:42:49] *** Joins: pax (pax@RBOSE-1f9ac224.dip.t-dialin.net) [23:44:59] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEjoga1yrn0&feature=player_embedded#! [23:45:00] You4Tube 2[Title] Flaming Crater, Darvaza Turkmenistan 1/6 - Phillips Connor 2[Category] People 2[Duration] 0:00:29 2[Views] 1109386 2[Rating] 4.90 2[Uploaded] 2007-07-21 2[Description] Video view 1 of 6 Total overview of the crater. The Darvaza area is rich in natural gas. While drilling in 1971 geologists accidentally found an underground cavern filled with natural gas. 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