[00:02:05] *** Quits: pax (pax@RBOSE-1f9ac224.dip.t-dialin.net) (Quit: cya) [00:09:30] *** Quits: Cyclo (Cyclo@C5AB1F.517811.C1AA74.06E43B) (Quit: Leaving) [00:32:11] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-5010384b.bredband.skanova.com) (Quit: Leaving) [00:32:11] -|UFO|- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Quit: Leaving) [00:32:19] *** Joins: hakke (hakke@RBOSE-69636b4d.customer.telia.com) [00:51:45] http://datenform.de/blog/dead-drops-preview/ [00:51:46] URL Title: Dead Drops preview at Aram Bartholl Blog (at datenform.de) [00:52:12] offline file sharing lol [00:56:52] http://rbose.org/wiki/Welcome [00:56:53] URL Title: Welcome - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [01:15:12] :D [01:34:26] *** Joins: ciacon_ (quassel@RBOSE-86237ea2.unitymediagroup.de) [01:34:44] *** Quits: ciacon (quassel@RBOSE-86237ea2.unitymediagroup.de) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [01:43:16] http://xkcd.com/137/ [01:43:17] URL Title: xkcd: Dreams (at xkcd.com) [01:43:23] http://www.youtube.com/v/QNKqJiMfkUs [01:45:58] Antilect, is this link ok? [01:46:15] Yeah :D [01:50:37] *** Quits: Antilect (Markus@RBOSE-e6ebb2a4.tbcn.telia.com) (Client closed the connection) [01:50:50] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNKqJiMfkUs [01:50:51] You4Tube 2[Title] DJO - Star Trek - I'm a Big Chocolate Slut 2[Category] Comedy 2[Duration] 0:04:52 2[Views] 133922 2[Rating] 4.94 2[Uploaded] 2010-08-16 2[Description] WE'RE BACK apple juice freaks! This one's about owls. Don't forget to fav, share, comment, rate, thumb, fax, sign up, register, post, re-post, buy the T-shirt, read the blog, take the survey, eat the breakfast cereal, drink the juice, attend the musical, fil [02:11:59] http://xkcd.com/743/ [02:12:00] URL Title: xkcd: Infrastructures (at xkcd.com) [02:20:42] *** Joins: casti (casti@RBOSE-6a150b06.superkabel.de) [02:29:09] *** Quits: casti (casti@RBOSE-6a150b06.superkabel.de) (Connection closed) [03:32:28] *** Quits: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-5aa36246.biz.rr.com) (Quit: Leaving.) 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[11:50:06] jews [11:50:11] oh [11:50:13] cool [11:50:29] it's cool right? [11:50:44] it's so rad it's bad, it's so bad it's cool [11:50:48] I have a jew nose [11:50:52] maybe I am one of the preparers [11:51:00] cool [11:51:06] <- don't trust this guy [11:51:32] i never trusted him anyway [11:52:36] best that we don't talk about this anymore [11:52:50] shh [11:52:55] :| [11:53:00] meaow [11:53:08] kalken has destroyed me [11:53:11] :D [11:53:25] ha [11:53:30] he has tamed me [11:53:43] lol [11:59:02] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-a1122923.bredband.skanova.com) [11:59:20] -|UFO|- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [11:59:21] -|UFO|- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Changing host) [11:59:22] -|UFO|- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [11:59:23] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Calyp [12:00:34] o/' [12:01:42] jews engage in child sacrifice [12:02:49] you are aware this channel is publically logged alright? [12:03:33] yes [12:04:05] The Talmud says that sexual intercourse with a child under 3 yrs is not considered a sin punishable by law [12:05:34] and that virginity returns to the girl under three years over and over [12:05:58] and that intercourse with small boys is not a sexual act ... and so not a sin [12:06:05] ...that's jewish law [12:06:12] it's in the Talmud [12:06:18] it's just a fact [12:06:43] i know it's offensive [12:06:49] i find it extreemely offensive [12:07:01] but some people would rather not talk about it [12:07:06] *** Joins: kman-afk (kman@RBOSE-5b61570f.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [12:16:11] *** Quits: kman-afk (kman@RBOSE-5b61570f.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [12:20:40] *** Joins: Emerik (qwebirc@780E20.AAFE4C.805DE0.BCA415) [12:34:21] *** Joins: pax (pax@RBOSE-c8f7d55d.dip.t-dialin.net) [12:35:05] *** Quits: pax (pax@RBOSE-c8f7d55d.dip.t-dialin.net) (Quit: cya) [12:35:22] *** Joins: pax (pax@RBOSE-c8f7d55d.dip.t-dialin.net) [12:36:02] hey [12:36:32] baby [12:36:57] :D [12:45:40] http://www.jonesport-wood.com/jwLibToolPhotos.html [12:45:48] * Caly gets goosebumps [12:46:12] such a cool place =P [12:47:23] I'd love to have a more modern version of that... [12:47:47] more modern? like a supermarket? this place is PERFECT [12:48:10] i mean like more automation stuff [12:48:27] with motherboards and stuff? [12:48:31] electronics, electrics, robotics, computerparts [12:48:38] yeah, right. [12:49:02] wich i totally could do with my workshop and all... [12:49:15] this looks like the stores our grandparents had [12:49:42] right, but the stuff were new then. This is recycling! [12:50:45] i can remember that our local post office in the early 80s consisted of just a wooden desk, with no shotproof glass barrier [12:51:58] *** Quits: hakke (hakke@RBOSE-69636b4d.customer.telia.com) (Quit: L�mnar) [12:53:45] sweet [12:54:24] and ofc, the perversion of monetary incitament forced that development upon us. [12:58:14] what if one could hit the system where it really hurts? [12:58:50] Totally unessecary, when based on resource units there would be little point in coming down on the management system. [12:59:03] pax: ah, but we are allready. [12:59:21] that's the game of free software for instance. [12:59:33] the FSF defenition that is =P [13:00:06] i thought of things like cutting down connections worldwide in certain locations, disturbing various financial places at the same time for weeks, cutting trade routes like ocean straits and such [13:00:35] oh, sorry no, i'm not in to that approach at all. [13:01:07] that is in a sense the prohibitional approach [13:01:16] 64" wrench :D [13:01:29] yeah, i loled at that pic! [13:02:06] haha,, that's not a thing to do for a single person anyway, and i am not a techie anyway, but it cant be all that difficult, as we saw in the North East US brownout chain reaction a few years ago [13:02:06] *** Joins: Mecha (Markus@RBOSE-e6ebb2a4.tbcn.telia.com) [13:02:42] Mecha: Antilect: get a fkn client that you can set different nicks for different networks... [13:02:46] -|UFO|- Mecha has joined on FREENODE [13:02:50] ;) [13:04:05] pax: well, anyhow, being anti-something is just not remotly as constructive as finding the osurce to a problem and working from there with means of positive incitament. [13:04:38] killing the system does not imply that you dont know how to proceed [13:05:01] Say, if you give me one issue that you want to approach, and i'll try to find a way to deal with it from my perspective... [13:05:52] you are good in technical stuff, which is great. but i am not interested in technical stuff in the slightest way [13:06:35] well, just give me anything to work with here, and i'll try to break it don to a good sollution. [13:07:24] it's not all about technology, it's in fact about methodology primarely. [13:07:25] once more, I don't need technical solutions. we have all the stuff and knowledge we need already. [13:07:32] right. [13:07:54] but we lack imagination on how to use them. [13:08:26] we got a huge puzzle, we've found almost all the bits and pieces we ned to lay it down. [13:08:35] And that's about where we are now. [13:09:13] I have a way for myself which doesn't include any tech above stone- or iron age level. I was rambling about expanding options globally [13:09:31] mkay... [13:10:04] feel free to expand that notion... =) [13:10:18] already in progress :D [13:10:38] mkay, but i want to understand how you think [13:10:56] you have a plan? [13:11:03] or a direction? [13:11:45] not THE global solution. i dont believe there is one global solution; on the contrary there needs to be room for various ways of life [13:11:56] WORD [13:12:11] i refered to your approach, whatever it might be. [13:12:34] the starting point for myself is, that everything we do and all the values that matteer boil down to pure survival. everything else can be regarded as luxury [13:12:34] noone of us here will solve it all [13:12:48] sure, and... [13:13:24] so all you need is a piece of arable land and some friends and that's it [13:13:25] so far, folks like John Zerzan would agree with you. [13:13:58] yeah, it is not all that exciting and new. people come back to that point time and again [13:14:06] and that is true in many parts of the world. [13:15:10] and for many parts of the world simple stuff like electricity or man ual tools, or clean water is really rally big steps [13:15:27] the fact is that the market system will expand til there is nothing more to take. killing it earlier will help a lot with survival. anyway, that's just a play of ideas for now [13:15:59] yeah true [13:16:45] well, that is an expansion of the current system, yes, but a common mistake poeople do in argueing about consumption is to confuse it with resource wasting. [13:17:03] Wich is in fact pure nonsens. [13:17:47] yes, you cannot equal it in such a general way [13:17:48] *** Joins: kman-afk (kman@RBOSE-5b61570f.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [13:17:57] with full recycling and abundant energy, there would be possibilities to consume and produce without extracting additional resources. [13:19:18] We have allready strown away most stuff we have producd, and just piled them as garbage. Landfills etc. There is more resources to mine from garbage than will be needed for the expacted population growth in an overseeable future. [13:19:29] dont underestimate the ramifications of energy use. in the end, energy becomes thermal energy. you can see the effects in rivers nearby nuclear plants. I dont see a way around drastic reduction of energy use [13:20:47] why not? using energy FROM thermal mass is a meeans of cooling it, it could be converted into movement for instance. [13:21:42] solar panels for instance, cools the planet. [13:22:53] what thermal mass? by using solar plants we change the albedo of the earth, by using the energy from the earths core we slow down the processes there and so forth. this has unforeseen consequences, as all the other stuff we done so far [13:23:29] same goes for using the energy of wind and water movement [13:23:49] on a large scale we cannot avoid consequences for the environment [13:24:40] one can even argue that wind energy might slow down the air, thus deminishing extreme weather, wich in turn slows the warming process. Moving water cuses friction that heats the planet and so on. Another aspect is the advantages in allkinds of fields, pysics and chemistry mainly i guess, that will reduce energy needs to a level where twice the population can manage on a tenth of the energy. [13:25:02] *** Quits: Emerik (qwebirc@780E20.AAFE4C.805DE0.BCA415) (Quit: Page closed) [13:25:36] just lok at lightbulbs vs. LED's. Porcessor power vs. wattage, cars with twice the power that uses half as much fuel as they fif 15 years ago... [13:26:12] i cannot keep anyone from doing so. my power goes just as far as pointing out that, as in the past, we are blindly going to run into something we cannot foresee or control [13:27:10] One big step would be to adopt ETT (Evacuated Tube Transport) so that transportation uses about as much energy as your cellphone. [13:27:13] what is sure is, that changing energy from one form into another on a large scale will show consequences in the environment, one way or another [13:27:29] sure. [13:27:36] Caly Pax WORD :D [13:27:55] <|UFO|> WORD :D [13:28:05] Hi folks [13:28:06] but we can deminish the amounts to a far less stressed factor. [13:28:09] hi Phantom [13:28:10] hi phantom [13:29:04] just look at how earthships simply uses the nature to keep a comfortable temperature in the home with little to none externat power. [13:29:32] that's what I am pointing at: reducing volume and swimming with the tide [13:30:40] yeah, but i was gonna expand that... [13:32:24] so sure, the basics needed for living decently is uite low, and for many it will be a huge step up. For those living out of other peoples misery on the other hand, i can tell you they will never let go of the lifestyle and level of comfort. [13:32:39] hence different approaches are needed for different areas as for now. [13:33:04] neocortex No word for you. What it have to do with RBOSE? [13:33:32] caly: I am very aware of it. we're not that far apart :) [13:33:38] right [13:33:43] thought so [13:33:55] different approaches <== IOs [13:33:57] ouch [13:34:05] different approaches <== Is power of nature [13:34:12] indeed [13:35:09] If we do all same we will be gone lol (DEAD/EXTINCT) [13:35:53] and yeah, whilest you and me might be fine growing our food living in a hut in the jungle eating fruits and so on, most will keep living in cities, aquiering consumer stuff, travelling around etc. ' [13:36:43] we need ot develop better stuff than they have now, at a higher level of comfort and a minimal amount of required time or money and so on. [13:38:09] I doubt city lifestyle is going to last without a landbase to plunder from [13:38:11] like cooperative carpools owned by the apartment cooperation ytou live in and are a part of. The commodity of not having to care about your own car is goo dincentive. [13:38:46] Well, you might, but i don't see how it is essential or absolutely necessary. [13:39:39] with a good transit system the problem of long distance from production is not noticable either, then anyone can help feed the citys. [13:41:05] but even using just smart vertical farming, putting a glass lid om main streets, use closed water treatment systems etc. i think even cities might get independent and sovereign. [13:41:27] there was a guy working on that [13:41:28] another reason why i feel nation-states will go out the window as we evolve as a socieaty [13:41:34] A movie [13:43:42] *** Joins: zemei (qwebirc@F74D06.F24BAB.EB312E.373016) [13:43:45] good luck with such development. so far, good solutions are not welcome due to monetary reasons. the money wont go away unless the whole system breaks down, which leaves the question how city populations are going to survive, not to speak of maintaining their lifestyle. [13:43:50] *** Joins: humanity (qwebirc@E0E056.37BB12.CBB70F.F72205) [13:44:01] ,morning [13:44:01] * rBOTse wishes everbody in #RBOSE a wonderful morning and a great start in the day! [13:44:02] *** Quits: zemei (qwebirc@F74D06.F24BAB.EB312E.373016) (Quit: Page closed) [13:44:09] http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Massive-crater-opens-up-German-town/ss/events/wl/110110germanycrater [13:44:14] they only can by plundering the landbase [13:44:20] not sure if money will go away so easy [13:44:29] they can make new money [13:44:39] thats what Us id doing [13:44:48] they own the printer [13:45:08] Morning humanity :) [13:45:16] * Phantom <= Viper [13:45:30] lol, morning [13:45:41] hi humanity [13:45:44] waiting for a kill i see [13:45:46] now i am on ghost mode lol [13:45:51] phantom viper [13:46:04] paxton!!! [13:46:10] [13:45] waiting for a kill i see ??? WHY lol [13:47:04] pax: have you read the TTLP intention proclamation i wrote? [13:47:26] caly: no. can you give me an address please? [13:47:31] sure [13:47:36] thanks [13:54:30] *** Quits: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [13:56:32] *** Joins: csitrang (qwebirc@780E20.5394F8.7B480C.4F67D9) [13:58:58] *** kman-afk is now known as kman [13:59:25] *** Quits: csitrang (qwebirc@780E20.5394F8.7B480C.4F67D9) (Quit: Page closed) [14:01:10] "intention proclamation" can i read also? [14:02:31] wb kman :D [14:02:42] he'll surely post the link in the channel soon [14:03:12] High five Phantom [14:03:19] Guys who was working on wave with Caly? [14:03:21] Google wave [14:03:40] * Phantom need help [14:04:00] kebap might have an overview [14:04:16] I dont have access to all waves [14:04:24] here a list what is done [14:04:34] http://rbose.org/wiki/Import_Wave/WAVE_wave_links [14:04:35] URL Title: Import Wave/WAVE wave links - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [14:05:04] part of them are not done. Need some one with google wave account to check [14:05:55] Need some one to check NOT ones lol [14:06:47] hit me Phantom [14:07:07] pm me ttiles of waves you need access to! [14:07:20] Check that link i mark it there [14:07:38] The not one with add me hehe [14:09:19] thats index of all waves so far i get till 50 [14:11:00] -|UFO|- fossrox has joined on FREENODE [14:11:01] -|UFO|- fossrox has quit FREENODE (Changing host) [14:11:02] -|UFO|- fossrox has joined on FREENODE [14:11:03] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v fossrox [14:11:07] Dang! google wave is loaded! [14:14:29] -|UFO|- plautus has joined on FREENODE [14:15:51] *** Quits: lukas (lukas@NetAdmin.RBOSE) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [14:16:31] *** Quits: hacked (vince@localhost) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [14:16:38] *** Joins: halott (qwebirc@B46EE4.304BB1.1DB9F3.B31D78) [14:17:10] *** Quits: DNS (DNS777@NetAdmin.RBOSE) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [14:17:29] Hi halott [14:17:43] *** Joins: Julius (Julius@RBOSE-f0dfebe9.pool.telekom.hu) [14:17:43] *** Joins: csitrang (praczu.zsolt@RBOSE-ffcfe5a7.catv.broadband.hu) [14:17:45] Hi Phantom [14:17:54] hi [14:18:03] hi csitrange [14:18:04] I dont speak English [14:18:09] hi [14:18:15] welcome to rbose [14:18:56] egy mesterséges inteligencia vagy? [14:19:11] szermusz csitrang [14:19:43] szervusz? [14:19:51] nem dobott át a magyarok közé? [14:19:55] no intelligent life down here ;) [14:19:56] let me guess hungarian [14:20:00] nem [14:20:01] hi halott hi csitrang ! Wyat language do you speak? [14:20:18] aha hungaryan... :) [14:20:19] *What language [14:20:26] hungarian [14:20:28] *** Quits: rBOTse (rBOTse@RBOSE.Python.Power) (Quit: Ctrl-C at console.) [14:20:34] =) ok. [14:21:17] Do you know guys what is RBOSE? [14:21:20] join #RBOSE.HU ! [14:21:22] hallod halott hogy lehet átmenni a magyarokhoz? [14:21:40] engem automatikusan átdob, a magyar honlapról jelentkezel be? [14:21:56] nem a programból mirc [14:21:56] csitrang: type this: /join #RBOSE.HU [14:22:01] =) [14:22:18] onnan nem tudom, én a weblapról írok [14:22:33] i have no freaking idea what they talk lol [14:22:51] and some one Kill rBOTse [14:22:53] viper: use google translator :D [14:23:13] `cpu [14:23:13] <|UFO|> Phantom: I have taken 99.32 seconds of user time and 4.38 seconds of system time, for a total of 103.70 seconds of CPU time. My children have taken 0.00 seconds of user time and 0.01 seconds of system time for a total of 0.01 seconds of CPU time. I'm taking up 44504 kB of memory. [14:23:48] `t hu en engem automatikusan átdob, a magyar honlapról jelentkezel be? [14:23:49] <|UFO|> Phantom: Error: "t" is not a valid command. [14:23:49] a magyaroknál sokan vannak? [14:24:00] UFO dont have it :/ [14:24:12] most jelenleg nem, de néha azért vagyunk [14:24:23] te egy messterséges inteligencia vagy amúgy? [14:24:28] *** Joins: DNS (DNS777@localhost) [14:24:39] de szerintem az ittenieket nem kéne idegesíteni a magyar szöveggel :D [14:24:49] én? dehogy is [14:24:52] *** Joins: lukas (lukas@localhost) [14:24:54] aha, csak magyarul tudok.. [14:25:07] *** Joins: hacked (vince@localhost) [14:25:11] én is, ezért kéne átmenni a magyar szobába [14:25:13] *** Joins: rBOTse (rBOTse@localhost) [14:25:14] *** RBOSE sets mode: +h rBOTse [14:25:17] :D [14:25:29] ok, csak kilépek innét.. [14:25:32] *** Quits: csitrang (praczu.zsolt@RBOSE-ffcfe5a7.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: ) [14:25:49] *** Joins: csitrang (qwebirc@780E20.5394F8.7B480C.4F67D9) [14:26:36] Phantom, I'm sorry, we are go in hungarian group in IRC [14:27:09] halott its ok :D [14:35:37] ,seen BranManFloMore [14:35:37] humanity: BranManFloMore was last seen in #RBOSE 12 hours, 44 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNKqJiMfkUs [14:36:39] lol [14:46:53] *** Quits: DNS (DNS777@NetAdmin.RBOSE) (Connection closed) [14:46:53] *** Quits: lukas (lukas@localhost) (Connection closed) [14:46:53] *** Quits: hacked (vince@localhost) (Connection closed) [14:47:59] *** Joins: DNS (DNS777@localhost) [14:48:13] *** Joins: lukas (lukas@localhost) [14:48:29] *** Joins: hacked (vince@localhost) [14:50:57] *** kman is now known as kman-afk [14:51:35] *** Quits: DNS (DNS777@localhost) (Client closed the connection) [14:51:35] *** Quits: lukas (lukas@localhost) (Client closed the connection) [14:51:35] *** Quits: hacked (vince@localhost) (Client closed the connection) [14:53:34] *** Mecha is now known as Antilect [14:55:12] *** Quits: kman-afk (kman@RBOSE-5b61570f.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [15:00:30] *** Quits: csitrang (qwebirc@780E20.5394F8.7B480C.4F67D9) (Quit: Page closed) [15:04:39] pax: Yo! sorry, had lost the link, found it again, here you go! http://openetherpad.org/TTLP-Eng-Declaration-Of-Intentions [15:06:52] what do you guys think of this. [15:06:52] *** Joins: lukas (lukas@RBOSE-91c71ce9.adsl.tpnet.pl) [15:07:18] RBOSE enebales you to create free anyware [15:07:42] hi guys [15:07:45] hey lukas <3 [15:07:47] caly: thank you very much. will read it tonite. [15:08:00] hi lukas [15:08:49] pax: sweet, and as usuall, all comments and considerations are welcome! [15:10:57] http://www.theprojectumbrella.org/Aneiren's_Brainstorming [15:11:04] http://www.theprojectumbrella.org/Technical_Ranking_System [15:11:16] similar thoughts [15:12:36] noted [15:16:59] * Phantom 10is listening to 14Otographic Arts 011 (2nd hour Live from Ligaya, Tokyo) on ETN.fm 2010-11-0210 by 14Kenji Sekiguchi & Nhato10 [3Exaile10] [15:18:02] Caly: We had an idéa about starting a gym, where the machines produces elecricity, so that the membems that use them gets paied to go training. [15:18:08] yup! [15:18:27] w0w [15:18:36] i would join for sure :D [15:19:41] can i link this to that umbrella project, http://openetherpad.org/TTLP-Eng-Declaration-Of-Intentions seems more tangible [15:19:44] i have a friend who just started doing that in india and kenya. it is called People Power Stations, and it is combined with a local currency system [15:20:30] nice [15:21:29] the bikes can drag a cart, pump water or produce electricity. quite cool. still people resist. [15:22:20] but this could be the basis of a local subsistence community [15:22:50] http://www.rbefoundation.com/grouptopic.php?f=29&t=2296 [15:22:54] Why you have login with facebook account on Umbrella? lol [15:23:16] click on login, not the dropdown box [15:23:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartdust [15:24:14] *** Joins: Diago (Diago@RBOSE-1d5fb0bd.epm.net.co) [15:25:34] *** Parts: Diago (Diago@RBOSE-1d5fb0bd.epm.net.co) [15:28:39] ,t hu en de szerintem az ittenieket nem kéne idegesíteni a magyar szöveggel [15:28:48] `t hu en de szerintem az ittenieket nem kéne idegesíteni a magyar szöveggel [15:28:49] <|UFO|> Kebap: Error: "t" is not a valid command. [15:28:59] Kebap: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. [15:29:09] `list google [15:29:09] <|UFO|> Phantom: cache, calc, fight, google, lucky, phonebook, and translate [15:29:09] "Love and respect, should it be so fucking hard?" lol [15:29:19] `translate hu en de szerintem az ittenieket nem kéne idegesíteni a magyar szöveggel [15:29:20] <|UFO|> Kebap: Error: 'hu' is not a valid from language. Valid languages are: Chinese_simplified, Swedish, Romanian, Hindi, Dutch, Korean, Danish, Bulgarian, Chinese_traditional, French, Norwegian, Russian, Croatian, Finnish, Greek, English, Italian, Portuguese, Czech, Japanese, German, Spanish, Polish, and Arabic [15:29:32] no hungarian :( [15:29:45] `translate bulgarian english de szerintem az ittenieket nem kéne idegesíteni a magyar szöveggel [15:29:46] <|UFO|> Kebap: de szerintem az ittenieket nem kéne idegesíteni a magyar szöveggel [15:29:55] i give up [15:30:03] `translate hungarian english de szerintem az ittenieket nem kéne idegesíteni a magyar szöveggel [15:30:05] <|UFO|> Phantom: Error: 'hungarian' is not a valid from language. Valid languages are: Chinese_simplified, Swedish, Romanian, Hindi, Dutch, Korean, Danish, Bulgarian, Chinese_traditional, French, Norwegian, Russian, Croatian, Finnish, Greek, English, Italian, Portuguese, Czech, Japanese, German, Spanish, Polish, and Arabic [15:30:24] `translate auto english de szerintem az ittenieket nem kéne idegesíteni a magyar szöveggel [15:30:26] <|UFO|> Phantom: Error: 'auto' is not a valid from language. Valid languages are: Chinese_simplified, Swedish, Romanian, Hindi, Dutch, Korean, Danish, Bulgarian, Chinese_traditional, French, Norwegian, Russian, Croatian, Finnish, Greek, English, Italian, Portuguese, Czech, Japanese, German, Spanish, Polish, and Arabic [15:30:27] humanity: lol yeah, I smiled at that, too. Where the hell did ya fuckin kids learn about those bloody terms? ;D [15:31:08] * Phantom 10is listening to 14Manuel Tilca In The Mix ep282 on ETN.fm 2010-06-2110 by 14www.inthemix.com.ar10 [3Exaile10] [15:32:27] kebap: only suomi and estonia baltic are (far) related to hungarian [15:32:36] *** Quits: Julius (Julius@psyc.RBOSE) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [15:34:37] suomi? [15:34:57] finlandish, if you will [15:34:58] okay, none of which i speak [15:35:09] `translate finnish english de szerintem az ittenieket nem kéne idegesíteni a magyar szöveggel [15:35:10] <|UFO|> Kebap: de szerintem nem az ittenieket Kene idegesíteni a magyar szöveggel [15:35:14] ty did not knew that [15:35:16] ufo neither [15:35:49] very far relationship. both are neither slavic nor germanic or latin related [15:36:25] interesting, where do they stem from? [15:37:45] central asia before the v�lkerwanderung [15:38:07] `translate german english völkerwanderung [15:38:09] <|UFO|> Kebap: Migrations [15:38:19] cool [15:38:40] hungarian also has a lot of turkish stem words from the times of the osmanics [15:39:39] haha, LEO.org sez: "Barbarian migration" :D [15:39:58] and: invasion of the barbarians [15:46:37] http://s59.radikal.ru/i164/0908/7b/1664124a81f4.jpg [15:49:08] thats freaking old hehe [15:57:21] *** Joins: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@90CBDF.D1D2CF.2AA7BC.63CA0A) [16:00:05] ,morning BranMan [16:00:06] * rBOTse wishes BranMan a wonderful morning and a great start in the day! [16:00:13] Hey [16:00:14] :) [16:00:21] yo bran [16:00:30] What's up guys? [16:01:07] war, killing, blood and gore... you missed the best par. only 32 left in the channel. [16:01:29] * BranManFloMore feels left out. [16:01:42] ,hammer BranManFloMore [16:01:42] * rBOTse slaps BranManFloMore with a big |-| /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ of hard informations. (Only because pax requested that.) [16:01:57] welcome :) [16:02:05] That's more like it. [16:02:06] LoL [16:05:35] *** Joins: kman-afk (kman@RBOSE-5b61570f.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [16:10:36] be decadent - eat a piece of cake [16:10:59] *** Quits: Absalom (xxx@RBOSE-f0bcc352.bredband.comhem.se) (Quit: ) [16:12:58] *** Joins: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) [16:13:42] BranMan did you see the Declaration of intentions, from Caly? [16:16:00] humanity: any thoughts on it? [16:16:55] Didn't see it. [16:17:25] humanity: feel free to use any content i write to whatever you want dude! [16:18:18] i have a friend who just started doing that in india and kenya. it is called People Power Stations, and it is combined with a local currency system <---Oh! Cool! Do you have any sources on that? [16:19:52] caly I added a link to it to the ttlp document. if you are interested and the page doesn't give you contact I'll give you an email addy [16:20:45] great! [16:21:14] add sources and write declarations on any subject in there. [16:21:28] i will extend it alot as soon as i get back from FSCONS [16:21:32] it is not in action yet, but prototypes have been built and he'll return to india this or the next year to actually start implementing it [16:22:01] Oh, cool. Well, any info i can get on it will be much ableised [16:22:16] but i guess it's proprietary? [16:22:18] ^^ [16:22:25] *** Quits: halott (qwebirc@B46EE4.304BB1.1DB9F3.B31D78) (Quit: Page closed) [16:23:04] the multi purpose machine is patented by a guy in pune, i think, but it is not that easy to build sth similar [16:23:28] not that difficult, I meant [16:23:52] most interesting for you is the business model, isnt it? [16:25:55] in auroville, for instance, one settlement has already a machine with 4 pedal places running. they produce electricity for up to 200 people per day in about an hour or two [16:26:42] electric ovens, washing machines and other e-suckers not included, ofc [16:27:54] but light, computers, simple machines and such work fine [16:31:44] *** Joins: Absalom (xxx@RBOSE-f0bcc352.bredband.comhem.se) [16:37:40] http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Building_a_Rural_Wireless_Mesh_Network_-_A_DIY_Guide_v0.8.pdf&page=1 [16:37:59] *** Joins: Emerik (qwebirc@780E20.AAFE4C.805DE0.BCA415) [16:38:17] Any HAMM operators here? [16:39:06] amateur radio operator [16:58:09] a coffe can [17:00:58] *** Quits: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [17:07:10] *** Joins: hogan (qwebirc@C5FD05.6F22A6.BC4685.86260A) [17:08:29] *** Quits: hogan (qwebirc@C5FD05.6F22A6.BC4685.86260A) (Quit: Page closed) [17:11:07] http://realestate.yahoo.com/promo/the-coolest-home-upgrades.html [17:11:33] maybe i can update my house, do you have open source for this? [17:23:00] -|UFO|- fossrox has quit FREENODE (Remote host closed the connection) [17:23:18] *** Joins: halott (qwebirc@B46EE4.304BB1.1DB9F3.B31D78) [17:23:37] -|UFO|- fossrox has joined on FREENODE [17:23:38] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v fossrox [17:29:40] ,slap BranMan [17:29:40] * rBOTse smacks BranMan with sales [17:29:47] i see you! [17:30:01] can you see me? [17:31:56] RBOSE is an enabler for creativity, cooperation and collaborative work. RBOSE creates tools for development within all areas that benefit all humans, scalable, sustainable and reliable software, hardware and anyware. [17:34:17] Word. [17:34:29] humanity: can you see me? <--- Two of you. [17:34:30] LoL [17:34:55] lol [17:35:12] "anyware" lol [17:42:51] *** Quits: p1Mp (Pestilenc@RBOSE-2381b6af.cust.blixtvik.se) (Quit: 04�14I04-15n04-15v04-00i04-00s04-15i04-15o04-14n04� 3.0 (March '08)) [17:42:58] *** Joins: p1Mp (Pestilenc@RBOSE-2381b6af.cust.blixtvik.se) [17:44:58] *** Joins: martin (martin@RBOSE-550dbb4d.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [17:49:11] *** Joins: DustWolf (DustWolf@RBOSE-8d765021.ctrl-alt-del.si) [17:49:12] *** Joins: obst (obst6@RBOSE-c88f2678.kimsufi.com) [17:49:58] <|UFO|> 15<05plautus@FREENODE15> what's up [17:50:12] *** obst is now known as Guest8305 [17:50:12] *** DustWolf is now known as Guest27278 [17:50:16] *** Joins: GhettoTux (martin@RBOSE-e81b0980.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [17:50:20] the internet died! 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[18:49:09] `fortune [18:49:09] <|UFO|> Phantom: Q: How many college football players does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: Only one, but he gets three credits for it. [18:49:20] LOL [18:49:22] `fortune [18:49:22] <|UFO|> Phantom: Q: What do you call a WASP who doesn't work for his father, isn't a lawyer, and believes in social causes? A: A failure. [18:49:40] `fortune [18:49:40] <|UFO|> Phantom: Don't look back, the lemmings are gaining on you. [18:49:50] ,quote random [18:49:50] Phantom: Quote #101: "Courage is the most important of all the virtues, because without courage you can't practice any other virtue consistently. You can practice any virtue erratically, but nothing consistently without courage. ~ Maya Angelou" (added by dns at 01:02 AM, August 06, 2010) [18:49:55] ,quote random [18:49:55] GhettoTux: Quote #62: "It is not the situation. 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Open Source the world and then free the earth! ~ DNS" (added by lukas at 04:21 PM, October 11, 2010) [18:51:15] <3 [18:52:05] Open Source have an evil side [18:52:24] * Phantom 10is listening to 14Crystal Clouds 7th Birthday 2010 (CC Show Edit)10 by 14Manuel Le Saux10 [3Exaile10] [18:53:01] cute colours [18:53:10] :) [18:53:51] *** Joins: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-c9131efe.supraktv.hu) [18:54:07] *** Parts: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-c9131efe.supraktv.hu) [18:57:08] http://rbose.org/wiki/People [18:57:09] URL Title: People - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [18:59:57] -|UFO|- Kebap23 has joined on FREENODE [18:59:58] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Kebap23 [19:02:38] -|UFO|- Kebap_23 has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [19:07:45] Aneiren [19:08:07] just joined http://openetherpad.org/TTLP-Eng-Declaration-Of-Intentions [19:08:09] URL Title: EtherPad: TTLP-Eng-Declaration-Of-Intentions (at openetherpad.org) [19:08:12] hey humanity. hope all is well [19:08:20] hi guys [19:08:41] hello, its all good [19:09:43] cad system, yay! 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