[00:03:37] *** Quits: Tuohimetsa (Mouho1@RBOSE-acec1f1c.yok.fi) (Quit: Lhdss) [00:15:52] cya :) [00:15:54] *** Quits: pax (pax@RBOSE-2463410c.dip.t-dialin.net) (Quit: THE MATTRESS HAS ME!) [00:16:49] *** Quits: mark (mark-ZM@RBOSE-ecd9b4c2.unitymediagroup.de) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [02:05:41] ,quote random [02:05:41] anne_: Quote #62: "It is not the situation. It is your reaction to the situation. ~ Bob Conklin" (added by dns at 10:45 PM, August 04, 2010) [02:11:06] ,quote anne [02:11:06] FAT64: Error: The "Quote" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "anne" in it. Try "list Quote" to see the commands in the "Quote" plugin. [02:11:10] :| [02:14:52] ,quote random for FAT64 [02:14:52] anne_: (quote random []) -- Returns a random quote from . is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. 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Greywater system, silt catch, football, kitchen wiring, and other details. www.earthship.net/texas [02:26:02] she has such a smooth cool voice :) [02:26:28] *** Joins: BranManFloMinux (BranManFloMin@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) [03:23:16] *** DNS is now known as ET [03:23:22] *** ET is now known as DNS [03:25:01] !m [03:25:02] [7] users online @ RBOSE's Mumble: (for Mumble help, type: ?? mumble) [03:25:03] [7] GNU | LINUX: anne, BranMan, DNS, Kebap, lukas, Masso, Viper [03:27:30] -|UFO|- skakke has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [04:05:21] *** Joins: DeLrge (DeLrge@RBOSE-7b1bff79.tbcn.telia.com) [04:11:36] *** Quits: BranManFloMinux (BranManFloMin@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) (Client closed the connection) [04:16:43] *** Joins: ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE (ThyExtendedSe@C85ECB.D28BAA.80567D.91EB54) [04:24:19] oh hi [04:24:34] the chat at zetigeistmovement.com doesnt work [04:28:22] what? [04:30:32] hey [04:30:46] can u use the chat at www.thezeitgeistmovement.com [04:30:47] ? [04:33:54] *** Joins: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) [04:33:56] *** Quits: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) (Quit: Leaving.) [04:34:01] this is rbose irc tzm dont have irc [04:34:13] ? [04:34:18] *** Joins: BranManFloMinux (BranManFloMin@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) [04:34:28] yea, they killed their irc [04:34:37] Welcome to RBOSE irc :D [04:34:38] why [04:34:43] Freaking murderers. [04:34:46] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE: ?? rbose [04:34:53] ?? rbose [04:34:53] Because PeterJoseph said that lol [04:34:54] rbose[1]: Resource Based Open Source Environment is a totally free environment without leaders nor governments where you can collaborate with people on projects all around the world. [04:34:56] rbose[2]: RBOSE is a communication platform of people interested in open sourced solutions based on resource management and implementing them in our daily lives. This group is dedicated to openness, fairness and transparency in development. We value diversity, creativity and sustainability. We don't recognize nations, religion nor politics. We believe in organic development, a development which speaks for it self. http://rbose.org/wiki [04:34:58] rbose[3]: You can search from IRC through our wiki by typing: !r [04:35:00] !g suspended users [04:35:03] 10,200,000 results | List of Suspended Users - The Zeitgeist Movement @ http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=60&id=154760&limit=10&limitstart=60 | Previously Suspended Users @ http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-previously-suspended.html | Do we get charged for suspended users? - Postini Help @ [04:35:04] http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/AppSecurity/thread?tid=1d5662ce1a168a68&hl=en [04:35:18] i was disappointed to see so few people visit the site each day [04:35:30] ThyExtendedSelf, because they are top organization banning people in internet? [04:35:57] hm? [04:36:02] !google suspended users [04:36:04] 10,200,000 results | List of Suspended Users - The Zeitgeist Movement @ http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=60&id=154760&limit=10&limitstart=60 | Previously Suspended Users @ http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rfe-previously-suspended.html | Do we get charged for suspended users? - Postini Help @ [04:36:05] http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/AppSecurity/thread?tid=1d5662ce1a168a68&hl=en [04:36:18] suspended user of TZM? [04:36:19] lol [04:36:26] sers [04:36:28] u [04:36:35] and 1st entry at google ^^ [04:36:40] yes, they suspend a lot of people [04:36:44] They are called the Global Ban Movement. [04:37:21] they shouldnt have done that [04:37:26] tzm is SHIT :D [04:37:32] but allow them to comment and ignore them [04:37:45] i disagree that it is [04:38:09] Well, they as well do everything under proprietary solutions, and not share anything. [04:38:21] the only thing that tzm do is promote PJ movies [04:38:23] you mean the patents of jacques? [04:38:56] well he is made them free in the first place, not many filmmakers do that [04:39:01] he believed in it [04:39:14] he sell them [04:39:17] patents!? have you seen a single scientific paper from them? [04:39:19] he sell dvd's [04:39:30] yes but optionally [04:39:39] the movies are available for free as well [04:39:49] they are not, lol [04:39:54] yes lol [04:39:57] i just saw one [04:40:05] NO on pireatebay you can download any movie [04:40:11] thats not really FREE [04:40:14] ill show you [04:40:38] anyway How will that movie help any one? [04:40:41] http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ [04:40:42] URL Title: The Zeitgeist Film Series Gateway | Zeitgeist: The Movie, Zeitgeist: Addendum, Zeitgeist Moving Forward (at www.zeitgeistmovie.com) [04:40:51] The movies are not the movement! [04:40:56] ''watch online now'' [04:41:01] it is free [04:41:33] it cost money to make the movies [04:41:44] http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/dr-peter-joseph-merola-trademarked-tzm-because-of-my-tzm-1 <--- Peter Joseph Is The Leader Of The Zeitgeist Movement [04:41:45] URL Title: Dr. Peter Joseph Merola Trademarked TZM because of my TZM!!! Conspiracy Science (at conspiracyscience.com) [04:42:02] PJ told you that? lol [04:42:03] I'm sorry, Dr. Peter Joseph. [04:42:04] LoL [04:42:17] well if u hade made them [04:42:18] Ask PJ how much he get from samsung to put in his movie! :D [04:42:24] what would u have done differently? [04:42:46] well so he should stay poor and make the movies? [04:42:56] he is not making movies like [04:42:59] NO he should get richer LOL [04:43:00] it cost money to make the movies <--- http://conspiracyscience.com/articles/zeitgeist/cost/ [04:43:01] URL Title: Zeitgeist, the movie Debunked - Cost - Conspiracy Science - Conspiracies and Myths Refuted, Debunked, and Explained (at conspiracyscience.com) [04:43:02] scary movie 2 [04:43:03] that will help people [04:43:39] this chat is all against TVP, TZM? :/ [04:43:50] yes [04:43:54] really? [04:43:59] wait [04:44:10] tzm is full of shit open your eyes!!! [04:44:14] *** yourdaddy is now known as Billll [04:44:24] like what? [04:44:31] is it forcing you onto something? [04:44:38] I have my Zeitgeist mvoement that supports the Zeitgeist Movement [04:44:53] come join my Zeitgeist movement ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE [04:44:57] what does it support that the other movement does not? [04:45:00] could you tell me [04:45:09] so maybe i can join yours [04:45:12] if it is better [04:45:16] http://tzm.hopto.org/index/ [04:45:17] URL Title: The Zeitgeist Movement (at tzm.hopto.org) [04:45:22] rbose do not ban people [04:45:28] Bill lol [04:45:30] it supports science [04:45:32] we do not have a leader [04:45:40] and the scietific method [04:45:48] !hammer Billll [04:45:48] ACTION slaps Billll with a big |-| /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ of hard informations (Only because Viper requested that.) [04:45:49] :D [04:45:57] the same as the original TZM? [04:46:14] unfortuntly I had to place the venus project in the conspriacy section of my site but your welcome to chalelnge that in my "conspriacy challenge" section of my site :D [04:46:27] lol [04:46:30] the venus project is new world order? [04:46:50] *** Quits: BranManFloMinux (BranManFloMin@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) (Client closed the connection) [04:47:00] ? [04:47:17] *** Joins: BranManFloMinux (BranManFloMin@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) [04:47:22] no the venus project isn't a viable solution [04:47:25] my leader is not PJ, i havent even watch an interview on him what i liked its his movies and their content [04:47:32] neither jacques fresco [04:47:43] nono [04:47:43] see [04:47:50] Peter is the leader of the Zeitgeist Movement [04:48:01] well he is organizing it [04:48:06] was not him who would? [04:48:07] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE please check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vt8vPxwCBk [04:48:08] nono he's the leader [04:48:08] You4Tube 2[Title] ABSOLUTE PROOF of Venus Project connections to the UN & NWO elites (Roxanne Meadows speaks!) 2[Category] Education 2[Duration] 0:07:57 2[Views] 4132 2[Rating] 3.25 2[Uploaded] 2010-09-22 2[Description] Roxanne Meadows admits some connections between the UN and the Venus Project. First, through a meeting organized by Mikhail Gorbachev's foundation, Green Cross International, where both Roxanne and Jacque att [04:48:11] sorry Billll, he is the owner [04:48:14] he trade marked "the Zeitgeist Movement" [04:48:20] that's a indication that he is the leader [04:48:30] ah the owner lol [04:48:30] well it is not a crime to trade mark something [04:48:32] lol [04:48:38] someone could use TZM title [04:48:41] for something else [04:48:42] like [04:48:42] well why would you trademark it? [04:48:48] TZM supports dunno [04:48:55] something else [04:49:01] because he is the owner of the Zeitgeist movement [04:49:06] also [04:49:18] everything in the mvoement is geared towards TZM 3 [04:49:29] if he does not trademark i could go on and make a webpage called the zeitgesitmovement and say we are pro nazi [04:49:30] etc [04:49:33] what if I made a movie can I get the whole movement to support it? and show it? and everything else? [04:49:34] thats the danger [04:49:53] I beleive this is called building a audience and that my friend it what Peter merola is doing [04:50:07] building a audience to support his movement much like Alex Jones did [04:50:07] =P [04:50:08] you could make a movie [04:50:13] at the venus project .com [04:50:19] there is a list of movies made by other users [04:50:26] our technical reality is one [04:50:28] and others [04:50:48] yes I cna make a movie but can I implemnted such as peter joseph for instance can I get the TZm translation team to tranlate my movie before it comes out? [04:50:59] if it would be as good in content and clarity as zeitgeist movements i bet many people at the forums would pay attention to it [04:51:05] and by itself it would grow [04:51:24] well... maybe if it is a good movie [04:51:31] they would volunteer for that [04:51:36] the tzm chapter website the new one has to come out before the movie say they can "collect" more people [04:51:37] lol [04:51:37] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbfRLf7VrK0 [04:51:38] You4Tube 2[Title] Zeitgeist introducing: our new god (parody) 2[Category] Comedy 2[Duration] 0:04:58 2[Views] 610 2[Rating] 2.60 2[Uploaded] 2010-04-28 2[Description] Peter Joseph from Zeitgeist movement is introducing the new god according to the Venus Project. [04:51:39] as people volunteer to translate the zeitgeist movies [04:51:42] i dont want to have anything with TZM coz its shit [04:52:01] and what is better? [04:52:06] RBOSE!!!! [04:52:13] thyextend peter is taking advantage of people for personal gain [04:52:13] do you read what i write? lol [04:52:15] =P [04:52:16] Nice DNS LoL [04:52:21] hahaha [04:52:49] whahah [04:53:01] http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=peter%20joseph [04:53:08] lol he is not peter joseph [04:53:09] * BranManFloMinux laughs [04:53:10] at that link [04:53:26] i love that movie:D [04:53:27] if he does not trademark i could go on and make a webpage called the zeitgesitmovement and say we are pro nazi <-- Fresco says to tolaerate anybody even kkk people [04:53:53] I have noticed TZm has attracted a lot of neo nazi's to their cause [04:54:18] he needs money to eat, probably money for his girlfriend, boyfriend... he needs to make some money with what he does [04:54:39] in the first place peter joseph is not a nazi [04:54:56] Bill Gates need $ too [04:54:59] no Peter is a dr [04:55:05] lol [04:55:08] neither jacques nor peter are what the nazis would consider pure blood lol [04:55:10] ur silly [04:55:59] * BranManFloMinux hears marching boots [04:56:44] because the neo nzais are mental [04:56:53] BranManFloMinux, isn't that all about central control with propriety solutions with lot of believes and spin movies? [04:57:26] jacques gave an interview, he said if someoen had a better idea for the cities he wanted to hear it [04:57:31] * BranManFloMinux gets dizzy from the spinning. [04:57:32] he always says do not listen to me [04:57:37] always question what i say [04:58:03] You question TZM, you get global bans. [04:58:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDy7FCqGY60 [04:58:17] You4Tube 2[Title] What would have to happen ft Alex Jones and Peter Joseph 2[Category] Music 2[Duration] 0:02:43 2[Views] 811 2[Rating] 3.25 2[Uploaded] 2010-09-20 2[Description] WWW.MYSPACE.COM/GLOBALBANNED G.B.U. GLOBAL BANNED UNIT PRESENTS "What would have to happen ft Alex Jones and Peter Joseph" Music by Diamond D Lyricz by Alex Jones, Kirk the 3rd and Peter Joseph VISIT UZ AT MYSPACE! [04:58:26] what kind of questioning? [04:58:28] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE, sorry, but RBOSE is not affiliated with that crap [04:58:39] what rbose? [04:58:42] is [04:58:49] why do i have it next to my nick? [04:58:54] you are at RBOSE [04:59:11] you connected to our network [04:59:24] do u want a money system instead? [04:59:33] Asking why there is no Open Source VOIP, asking about transparency, asking why corrupt moderators are still moderators and the list goes on. [04:59:45] Oh yeah, questioning global bans and rules. [05:00:05] it is just a forum with 20 vistors per hour maximum lol [05:00:09] at least the english one [05:00:18] ask why moderators at TZM are payed, why they have top down control structure [05:00:27] u are paranoid [05:00:39] just ask :) [05:00:45] why? [05:00:51] Moderators and programmers get paid and you're asking us if we like the monetary system? It looks like TZM does. [05:00:54] ask Gman or Apollo how much they get payed [05:01:03] and tanktop [05:01:08] tell me [05:01:09] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE, to not be lead by believe?! [05:01:13] and vtv [05:01:23] i dont care if they earn much [05:01:45] TZM shows the crap of the system [05:01:51] TVP is a solution [05:01:56] Peter Joseph is right every one els is wrong lol OK [05:01:56] RBOSE shows the crap of the ZM. [05:01:57] sure, and do worst crap [05:02:04] tvp is an dream [05:02:24] what has peter joseph said in his films u disagree with? [05:02:37] BTW he copy stuff from other people [05:02:43] He did not create it [05:02:46] yes and? [05:02:52] he makes a point [05:03:07] He just promote him self thats all [05:03:23] And pretends to be a doctor. [05:03:29] well i dont care about that, i care about solutions [05:03:33] it's not about movies, it's about top banning movement in practice, the dream is nice, but the implementation is a totally different stuff, you must know nothing about tzm and tvp in fact? [05:03:36] not seeing how wrong people are [05:03:36] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE: do you want to live in centralized system run by a supercomputer which makes for you descisions? [05:03:42] it is not a productive behavoir [05:03:44] All tzm do is work on PJ movies dont you see that???? [05:03:45] attakcing people [05:03:48] then we will stay the smae [05:04:05] i dont see that at the forums [05:04:10] http://earth2movie.blogspot.com/2010/04/earth-20-finds-its-own-way.html [05:04:11] URL Title: Earth 2.0 - Blog: Earth 2.0 Finds Its Own Way (at earth2movie.blogspot.com) [05:04:24] here you have a history how close they are [05:04:35] there could be 100 peter joseph movies [05:04:58] i dont take them as my bible lol [05:05:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIQS9anmWFg [05:05:14] You4Tube 2[Title] Releasing inventions as Copyleft? - Conversations with Jacque & Roxanne in Bogotá 2[Category] Nonprofit 2[Duration] 0:01:04 2[Views] 178 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2010-10-05 2[Description] What about releasing your innovations as Copyleft or some similar form of alternative rights management? From the series "Conversations with Jacque & Roxanne" in April 2010. Bogotá, Colombia. More at www.zeitgeistcolo [05:05:17] ^^ [05:05:19] Alex Jones has made over 20 documentaries and no one takes him seriously, so why should I take Dr. Peter Joseph seriously? [05:05:21] http://anticultist.wordpress.com/ [05:05:22] URL Title: Zeitgeist is a mind heist venus project is a scam ? (at anticultist.wordpress.com) [05:05:27] i spend my time trying to think on how to make TVP more possible [05:05:48] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE: do you want to live in centralized system run by a supercomputer which makes for you descisions? [05:05:56] this is TVP [05:05:57] it is not like that [05:06:04] well ask jacque [05:06:06] or peter [05:06:14] ask VTV lol [05:06:21] the computer does not make the decisions jacques said that, he said it over and over again in his world tour lecture [05:06:27] yea, now you will give us your interpretation of JF words? mercy [05:06:30] the computer tells information [05:06:37] people use that information [05:06:58] imagine the computer said there are just 100 tomatoes, jus simplifying things... [05:07:07] and that they have to be given to 1000 people [05:07:12] would the people just stay like that [05:07:16] and allow that decision [05:07:23] they know nothing about computers, you get it? [05:07:30] and ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE can you show me any plan (transition plan or whatever) or a scientific model from the venus project which can be peer reviewed? [05:07:34] no based on what the computer tells them people know how they can innovate [05:07:38] you dont need computer for that lol [05:07:41] oh we need more tomatoe production green houses [05:07:47] thats the pint [05:07:53] you dont need computer for that lol [05:08:06] So the point of RBE is to have more tomatoes? [05:08:17] Haha [05:08:17] no [05:08:23] i was making a simplification [05:08:26] Or scarcity of it by a computer if there's a hundred for a thousand people? [05:08:33] This sounds flawed. [05:08:37] more calculators? [05:08:50] if the computer makes a decision based on scarcity [05:08:57] then we have to innovate for abundance [05:08:58] green houses? JF hates that, there is no single solar panel or anything renewable at tvp, ... is it a cult or what? [05:09:14] LoL [05:09:17] the windows in his designs are photvoltaic [05:09:23] he said it [05:09:28] haha [05:09:37] he says it over and over again [05:09:44] i wrote an email to them [05:09:47] His windows don't have blinds. [05:09:49] talking about permaculture [05:09:49] yea, in my design they build themselves even, have you seen that design or you just believe in it? [05:09:59] you belive what he says? [05:10:09] i dont want that design exactly and i never thought i should follow that design alonw [05:10:26] believe and knowledge are 2 different things [05:10:28] thats whay it is not a dictatorship lol [05:10:32] believe are just sayings [05:10:36] [05:01:29] i dont care if they earn much. This is important. When you earn money you must be obedient [05:10:37] knowledge is data [05:10:39] ;D [05:10:44] people are commenting on all sorts of things [05:10:57] basic machines to make more complex machines [05:11:05] how would the first industrial cities look like [05:11:13] how people could be trapped in the first RBE cities [05:11:22] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE, so you watched few movies and you know all now? good luck with this approach... [05:11:25] since they would have no commerece with the outside [05:11:29] and people ar ethinking fo solutions [05:11:39] i dont know all [05:11:45] i think the movies talk much about the project [05:11:49] but little aout the transition [05:11:57] so im thinking on that [05:12:08] what projects? [05:12:08] theres no transition plan at all [05:12:09] I don't want to live in a RBE city with scarcity of tomatoes. [05:12:12] not even a next step [05:12:13] That's a no no for me. [05:12:15] nothing [05:12:15] when someone shows a real good idea people at the forums will apay attention to it [05:12:25] BranManFloMinux, lol [05:12:33] well there would be no scarcity [05:12:37] thats te point [05:12:40] BranManFloMinux :D [05:12:50] 100 tomatoes with a thousand people is scarcity. [05:12:53] How do you know that? movie said it or PJ? [05:12:56] yes that was an example [05:13:03] nop, i thought about it [05:13:07] Sorry, I don't want people breaking in my dome house for tomatoes. [05:13:15] i thought there should always be an overproduction of food [05:13:17] lets say... [05:13:22] if u want to feed 100 people [05:13:26] * rBOTse wonders from where all these believers are coming from?! [05:13:36] the greenhouses should in purpose be designed to feed 150 people [05:13:42] Right now in our system we make 3 x more food then people of earth need it!!! [05:13:49] and those 50 tomatoes can be used for compost etc [05:13:54] well not tomatoes [05:13:55] lol [05:14:07] tomatoes too [05:14:16] Tomato based economy [05:14:22] LOL [05:14:24] lol [05:14:43] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE, we work with permaculture and natural housing, but TVP doesn't do you get thar? [05:14:45] It's the only way out, if you got TVP trying to trademark RBE. [05:14:46] that* [05:14:47] i bet u are more about ur ego than anything [05:14:54] u want to prove urself right [05:15:04] ummm computer said no Tomato for you!!! Mhahahah [05:15:23] I'm from RBEF, I would like someone to prove me wrong about a TBE that will work with scarcity of tomatoes. [05:15:30] it is not like we will put computers that will tell us everything [05:15:37] based in this system [05:15:44] at firs there will probably be little computers [05:15:52] it is moe about desinign systems [05:15:53] cities [05:16:01] that are self sufficient and abundant [05:16:02] there is NO project in TZM only PJ movies [05:16:09] RBE is a bit empty term for me [05:16:14] I don't need computers to plant anything. [05:16:16] actually very pseudo [05:16:21] nothing like this exists [05:16:23] Jacques is not a genius [05:16:25] HELP HIM [05:16:27] lol [05:16:32] he wants something better [05:16:34] He is a scumbag [05:16:43] Well, his hat is cool. [05:16:43] Lie Lie and talk BS [05:16:45] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE, ask for scientific papers, ask for real projects, ask for any design, ask about global bans (to moon or where?), etc. just start to think critically, and not follow stuff like a believer [05:17:03] i do not, ive thought critically [05:17:07] ask me a tough question [05:17:21] ok, here are the questions: [05:17:27] Who will make these little computers? [05:17:39] u need many things [05:17:42] like silicion [05:17:42] Who make the descisions? [05:17:43] have you seen a single scientific paper from TVP or you know one person who seen it? [05:17:46] for the microporcessors [05:17:47] Who make the descisions about the computers? [05:17:48] u need sand [05:17:52] where it is extracted from [05:17:59] You need sand for computers? [05:18:03] Who make the descisions who is allowed to use the computers? [05:18:03] so u need a silicon production plant yes [05:18:16] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE, have you seen a single scientific paper from TVP or you know one person who seen it? [05:18:21] so we have to plan all that [05:18:22] are you joking??? litle kid know that lol [05:18:27] how to make the computers from scratch [05:18:32] how to design a facroty [05:18:42] Little kids in RBE will know how to make little computers? [05:18:45] from sand to silicon to integrated systems [05:18:58] they could be taught [05:19:11] the venus project has not talk much about the systems for education [05:19:14] we have to thinkn about that [05:19:16] computers are not made from sand [05:19:19] no [05:19:28] but silicon is taken from sand [05:19:34] for the microprocessors [05:19:35] micro chips are made from sand [05:19:41] LoL [05:19:47] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE: have you seen a single scientific paper from TVP or you know one person who seen it? [05:20:00] ok who makes the decisions [05:20:11] well dont write for a bit, allow me to explain you [05:20:17] Little kids that make little computers will make the descisions. [05:20:31] lukas made a good question [05:20:33] tvp just created models for kids to play with maybe but nothin which is free avialbe, no special techology or any other stuff liek a transition plan [05:20:35] imagine a university campus [05:20:39] can u do that? [05:20:46] is it complicated to make decisions in it? [05:20:49] as a group? [05:20:54] Did you see any or not??????[05:19] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE: have you seen a single scientific paper from TVP or you know one person who seen it? [05:21:02] now simply imagine a self sufficient university campus [05:21:07] its more like that [05:21:10] did you see or not? [05:21:11] In RBE universities, will everyone lie about being a doctor? [05:21:26] Will there be little kids in universities too with little computers? [05:21:29] every city will be a university [05:21:31] http://anticultist.wordpress.com/2010/01/18/the-venus-project-is-not-just-non-profit/ [05:21:33] URL Title: The Venus Project is not just non-profit? Zeitgeist is a mind heist venus project is a scam ? (at anticultist.wordpress.com) [05:21:43] The more you describe RBE to me, the more i think about the North Pole. [05:21:44] scientific papers [05:21:45] ? [05:21:54] Yes or NO???? [05:22:04] Blue print or something [05:22:08] well i dont know if jaques has those well developed and i dont care, people are thinking based on his vision [05:22:15] if he didnt what could i do? [05:22:16] You don't care? [05:22:16] LOL [05:22:16] say o no [05:22:19] he didnt make it for me [05:22:20] so i dont wna tikt [05:22:22] it [05:22:26] SO if i tell you iam GOd you belive me ??? :D [05:22:37] if this how you think [05:22:48] So you want to follow Jacque Fresco blindly and believe in little kids making little computers to save the world pretending to be doctors in RBE universities? [05:22:49] the venus project is there since the 70ies ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE, and what they have created in that time? [05:22:53] he didnt make the scientific papers detailed for me to implement them, tvp os flawed etc? [05:22:54] NO [05:22:55] movies, dvds? [05:22:59] i think towards his vision [05:23:06] and all just for money? [05:23:15] very controversial [05:23:39] *what they have created since this time [05:23:41] well does it cost to print a book? [05:23:42] i mean [05:23:46] can he give them away for free [05:23:48] be logical [05:23:49] http://anticultist.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/open-source-ecology-review-tvp/ [05:23:50] URL Title: Open Source Ecology review TVP & TZM Zeitgeist is a mind heist venus project is a scam ? (at anticultist.wordpress.com) [05:23:52] he needs money to EAT [05:23:53] so all you see is some movies and some talking crap of JF and you belive in TVP? [05:24:00] http://anticultist.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/the-science-that-is-missing-and-completely-wrong-in-the-venus-project/ [05:24:01] does he have a mercedes lol? [05:24:04] URL Title: The science that is missing and completely wrong in the venus project Zeitgeist is a mind heist venus project is a scam ? (at anticultist.wordpress.com) [05:24:16] oh yes he has mansion or does he live in alittle dome? [05:24:17] he needs money to EAT <--- 120,000 a year is just enough to fill up his plate, I'm sure. [05:24:18] LoL [05:24:33] lol [05:24:34] well he is saving [05:24:39] LOL [05:24:43] if he can make money on his books [05:24:47] it is better than [05:24:51] twilight [05:24:52] i mean [05:24:58] So then why not give them free??? [05:25:03] Saving for what? [05:25:05] On internet as pdf or something [05:25:09] because it costs to print them [05:25:10] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE, do you come here with any reviewed information or just with believes? [05:25:14] and he needs a source of income [05:25:32] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE JF or PJ told you that? LOL [05:25:35] it is not my concern how much money does jacques make [05:25:53] i know he has not a mercedes [05:26:01] So what you're saying is that you don't care if TVP is a scam? [05:26:03] Wow... [05:26:14] jacques is not rich [05:26:23] vtv is poor LOL [05:26:25] and second if he makes money how can it be a scam? [05:26:37] lol [05:26:37] Because it's a for profit company? [05:26:44] If you make money then you are good guy right [05:26:44] was he so rich he would probably started building more things at tvp florida [05:26:49] but he only has some little domes [05:26:55] because he has no funds or money [05:26:58] thats what he told you [05:27:23] he couldnt do much without money anyways [05:27:27] like travel and give lectures [05:27:35] oh u want his lectures to be free? [05:27:42] will u pay for the auditorium? [05:27:48] You belive in JF like some people belive in God [05:27:52] I heard he travels first class. [05:27:54] no [05:27:56] Yes [05:28:02] i thought he said something ridiculous about organic food [05:28:10] Even if i show you that JF lie you dont belive in it [05:28:11] and i sent him an email [05:28:17] and he said he was all pro permaculture [05:28:24] after reading it [05:28:36] but they have no money to implement [05:28:39] something heh [05:28:43] How do you know that? [05:28:49] What is your source? [05:28:58] because if they did at leats they would be doing something else u could disagrre with [05:29:06] but wondering if they have monye to make something or not [05:29:20] to make something u can disagrree with [05:29:21] is different [05:29:31] have they build something u disagreew with? [05:29:32] no [05:29:36] when you believe in god and someone tells us that this is not true that we do not want to believe him [05:29:57] what dont u believe? [05:30:07] has he said he as city in australia that is so succesful? [05:30:08] no [05:30:19] he is afraid the first cities could go wrong [05:30:25] Central computers, little computers made out of sand and scarcity of tomatoes. [05:30:32] u say nothing lol [05:30:33] I disagree with that stuff. [05:30:36] ur so childish [05:30:43] get serious [05:30:46] get over u ego [05:31:05] Your description of RBE sounds childish literally, little kids making little computers? [05:31:08] go pray to JF lol [05:31:14] Sounds like a RBE Sweat shop? [05:31:16] i never said that [05:31:42] do u want to feel better than me [05:31:46] so i can have a point? [05:31:59] what is your point that computes are made from sand? [05:32:03] Are you kidding me [05:32:08] [23:18] are you joking??? litle kid know that lol [05:32:09] [23:18] how to make the computers from scratch [05:32:15] the point is allow me to explain.... [05:32:24] you belive in TVP like god belive in god [05:32:27] yes tTVP has not thought about that lol [05:32:31] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE, you don't care about facts and verification of information, so how serious this discussion can be? [05:32:34] im a trying to think about it [05:32:50] hehe [05:32:53] Cool, I think about RBE too in RBEF. [05:32:55] :) [05:32:55] *belive in god [05:32:59] watch... [05:33:08] that ted talk on personal fabrication [05:33:39] We tell you tzm admins get payed you said that you dont care [05:33:40] i care about verification [05:33:54] well does ur movement knows how to make the computers from scratch? [05:33:55] So you dont care about anything But belive everything what JF or PJ says [05:34:09] Wait you know that you need sand LOL [05:34:10] i dont believe everything [05:34:21] it is not about believing lol [05:34:21] be a little ateist. Think [05:34:26] it is about thinking if it is viable [05:34:27] How odl are you? [05:34:31] *old [05:34:31] and something si think are not [05:34:34] so i try to think better [05:34:37] and sahre in the forums [05:34:46] Age is irrevelant and will only lead to personal attacks. [05:34:48] Do you know at all what we are doing? Or you are closed to information like doors with a rusted lock? http://rbose.org/wiki/Main_Page [05:34:49] URL Title: Main Page - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [05:35:52] .tappend http://rbose.org/wiki/Main_Page [05:35:53] URL Title: Main Page - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [05:35:58] wo0t [05:35:58] it is like that [05:36:05] And RBOSE probably knows more about computers then TZM since most of the folks here are developers. [05:36:06] LoL [05:36:07] open source ecology movement [05:36:16] .tappend http://rbose.org/wiki/Main_Page [05:36:16] *** RBOSE changes topic to 'Welcome to our Main Channel || General discussion about RBOSE || For specific subjects please check: /list || Need help? for bots !help and ,list ...For other or more help just ask here or join #help || Join #news channels for fresh load of information. || http://rbose.org/wiki/Main_Page' [05:36:17] URL Title: Main Page - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [05:36:23] well ok [05:36:25] so tell me [05:36:28] i need answers [05:36:32] http://anticultist.wordpress.com/2010/04/14/open-source-ecology-review-tvp/ [05:36:34] URL Title: Open Source Ecology review TVP & TZM Zeitgeist is a mind heist venus project is a scam ? (at anticultist.wordpress.com) [05:36:37] how can we make a computer from scratch? [05:36:54] here you have Open Source Ecology ^ [05:36:59] maybe with reprap you can do that in a year or two [05:37:11] If you know what is reprap [05:37:14] reprap [05:37:17] what is it [05:37:30] !w reprap [05:37:35] RepRap Project | The RepRap project, short for "replicating rapid prototyper", is an initiative to develop a 3D printer that can print most of its own components. All of the designs produced by the project are released under a free software license, the GNU GPL. It is self-replication that distinguishes the RepRap Project from the similar Fab@Home or CupCake MakerBot projects. To date, the RepRap [05:37:36] project has released two 3D printing machines: "Darwin", released in March 2007, and "Mendel", released in October 2009. Developers have named each after famous biologists, as "the point of RepRap is replication and evolution". Due to the self-replicating ability of the machine, authors envision the possibility to cheaply distribute R @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reprap [05:37:51] http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Reprap [05:37:52] URL Title: RepRap - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [05:37:59] ??? [05:38:02] wha is it [05:38:05] Read [05:38:10] oh [05:38:11] lol [05:38:23] * BranManFloMinux rubs his head. [05:38:25] lemme goodle [05:38:26] google [05:38:32] look in wiki [05:38:52] oh ive seen it [05:38:57] its so cool :p [05:39:07] rbose work with reprap [05:39:07] ive seen the video [05:39:29] any more questions??? [05:39:36] it can make many plastic parts of the printer itself [05:39:38] and tvp works only with adverts, check it, don't believe us [05:39:52] i made a post about this subject in the forums [05:40:05] i called it.... [05:40:06] very productive place probably... [05:40:15] We have wiki about it!!! [05:40:20] if you know what is wiki [05:40:21] The basic machines needed to make any machines [05:40:55] i thought one od those machines would have to be a casting machine [05:41:10] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE, would like to talk with us by voice? [05:41:13] since u can make very different metallic shapes [05:42:02] Every one is welcome in rbose!!! [05:42:02] a machines is made of different shapes that come together to an emergent function [05:42:06] we do not ban people [05:42:15] if u can cast different shapes for any machine, thats something good [05:42:19] we done need th basic machines [05:42:20] BUT [05:42:26] the basic machines to make the basic machines [05:43:05] am i right to think one of those machines could be a die casting machine? [05:43:24] reprap can make mainbaord print it [05:43:55] i guess it could [05:44:01] when it is further developed [05:44:08] in 20 years [05:44:10] it can right now [05:44:18] Other version of reprap can do that [05:44:23] its in Beta [05:44:26] can it print parts to make a die casting machine? [05:44:28] Not 20 years lol [05:44:39] im serious when i say 20 years [05:44:42] do you know what is mainboard??? [05:44:47] no [05:44:57] computer motherboard [05:45:06] oh yes [05:45:10] it can print one? [05:45:12] main board [05:45:13] reprap can print that [05:45:13] LoL [05:45:17] yes? [05:45:19] Yes [05:45:22] really? [05:45:23] its only in beta [05:45:28] is there a video? [05:45:39] yes look in google [05:45:46] or youtube [05:45:51] but how can it print metallic parts? [05:46:08] Do you have any idea how is computer made/build? [05:46:16] If no then go look for that then ask questions [05:46:19] ok [05:46:28] and please do not start any more with telling about sand [05:46:31] Kidz know that [05:46:49] is there a way to make a microprocessor without silicon [05:46:49] ? [05:46:54] thats a sincere question i had [05:46:56] Yes [05:47:00] there is [05:47:02] of what material? [05:47:11] umm [05:47:22] graphit or something called [05:47:29] ,quote random [05:47:29] anne_: Quote #91: "on first priority in design consideration is the full realization of individual potential in order to reach the second derivative: full realization for all individuals ~ Buckminster Fuller" (added by Kebap at 10:20 PM, August 05, 2010) [05:47:47] They make new faster smaller CPU from Graphit [05:48:00] is gaphit cheaper and easier to manufacture? [05:48:04] Yes [05:48:23] its cheap like sand [05:48:28] couldnt it break? [05:48:42] u have to process it? [05:48:49] make into a different material [05:48:52] like u process sand? [05:48:58] do you know what is CPU and how its made? [05:49:32] i dont know if that is different from the microporcessor [05:49:33] :p [05:49:34] `google cpu graphit [05:49:36] <|UFO|> Viper: Power Mac G4 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; *Official* Corsair 600T Graphite Owners Club - Page 5 - Overclock ...: ; PowerMac G4 Graphite (Dual Processor) Upgrades - Upgrade Your Mac!: wait [05:49:44] i need to watch the video [05:49:51] of the motherboard printing [05:49:54] brb [05:50:20] i cannot find it [05:50:26] if u know how it is named could u tell me [05:50:50] ask your God JF and PJ they know everything LOL [05:50:52] JK [05:51:07] why do u think that? [05:51:09] i never did [05:51:10] heh [05:51:11] i dont remember name but there is for sure [05:51:17] well keywords [05:51:18] give me [05:51:23] plz [05:51:47] i dont remember name but there is for sure [05:51:50] again [05:51:52] i dont remember name but there is for sure [05:52:02] what was the name of the machine that printed it? [05:52:09] i need to add that to the search [05:52:18] reprap [05:52:20] ok [05:53:49] i see others but not the motherboard printing [05:56:08] http://rbose.org/wiki/OSH_list [05:56:09] URL Title: OSH list - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [05:56:54] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ham97-DsAlA [05:56:55] You4Tube 2[Title] Microstepping with Pololu stepper boards on a Gen 3 motherboard 2[Category] Tech 2[Duration] 0:12:50 2[Views] 237 2[Rating] None 2[Uploaded] 2010-10-27 2[Description] This is a print of Wade's Extruder in blue ABS using pololu steppers on a techzone motherboard. [05:56:57] that one? [05:57:29] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE, how we can help you? [05:57:59] yes [05:58:11] i would like to see the video of the motherboard printing [05:58:34] ,lmgtfy the video of the motherboard printing [05:58:35] lukas: http://bit.ly/i6TCVh [05:58:42] there you go ^ [05:58:45] ok :p [05:59:21] hehe+ [05:59:34] thats a good joke [05:59:44] ok i want to get practical [05:59:58] then stop believe in shit [06:00:02] at TZM TVP forums people dont know much [06:00:02] :| [06:00:11] http://rbose.org/wiki/Projects [06:00:12] URL Title: Projects - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [06:00:12] about technical processes [06:00:26] myself included [06:00:31] they only advertise [06:00:46] and ask for money [06:01:21] so i asked in a post but only got 8 responses about... [06:01:24] and then they try to explain why they ask for money, but they don't do anything beside that [06:01:27] those basic machines needed to make any machine [06:01:30] -|UFO|- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Read error: Operation timed out) [06:01:41] i said... this [06:01:47] well can u access the posts [06:01:51] ill shwo you [06:02:04] thanks, please not [06:02:09] i made it [06:02:25] Did you look at rbose wiki??? [06:02:34] we have really enough tzm, how should we express that in other words? [06:02:44] i dont like forum aspecial TZM one they suck [06:03:06] hmm [06:03:10] it looks very good :P [06:03:12] good good [06:03:31] thanks [06:03:31] portable homes [06:03:53] thats what im looking for [06:03:58] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-f1c1e7fc.bredband.skanova.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [06:04:03] i saw the open source ecology site [06:04:06] have u seen it [06:04:11] ? [06:04:12] yes [06:04:18] http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Architecture [06:04:19] URL Title: Architecture - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [06:04:20] but it is less modern [06:04:24] there you go ^ [06:04:25] right? [06:04:35] cage is very modern LOL [06:04:54] How believers can know that they are not in a sect? their senses are deceiving their mind. [06:05:05] ,quote random [06:05:05] DNS: Quote #5: "The Pythonic way to halt and catch fire is to raise an exception. ~ Mark Pilgrim, Dive Into Python 3" (added by vinces at 07:08 AM, April 24, 2010) [06:05:14] ,quote random [06:05:14] DNS: Quote #76: "As for me, all I know is that I know nothing. ~ Socrates" (added by dns at 12:28 AM, August 05, 2010) [06:05:19] :> [06:05:40] how is open source ecology different from RBOSE? [06:06:05] we have different byte 3342 on the page for example [06:06:10] we dont have business models or some other money based shit [06:06:17] hmmm [06:06:25] :> [06:06:26] yes, thats good [06:06:27] :p [06:06:31] we dont ask for $ [06:06:42] oh [06:06:43] you dont need to pay $ to join rbose [06:07:05] so how is ur project different from jacques... [06:07:08] first [06:07:16] difference in the cities [06:07:18] ? [06:07:23] there is no project in JF [06:07:27] only BS talking [06:07:28] RBOSE RBE? [06:07:33] no rbose is not rbe [06:08:01] ok this is my idea... [06:08:03] listen [06:08:07] well an idea [06:08:31] ideas are welcome [06:08:39] 1. thought the first city should not have a set plan [06:08:42] But noit tzm one lol [06:08:47] we work with free and open source solutions and we apply them TODAY [06:08:54] like an x amount of land would be allocated for itts construction [06:08:59] rather it has to be able to expand [06:09:04] and it should be a university [06:09:11] producing something [06:09:16] during the transition [06:09:23] We are working on solutions that you can use RIGHT NOW [06:09:29] there are no tuition fees because it is a model for production as well [06:09:33] it will make your life better RIGHT NOW [06:09:39] so the popel who go study there can feed themselves etc [06:09:43] not after 10000000 years if that even happen [06:10:02] what is one of those idea? [06:10:03] s [06:10:11] look in wiki [06:10:19] here is how JF asks for money for 30 minutes and how we want to create a new religion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UbigWpF68I [06:10:20] You4Tube 2[Title] Jacque Fresco's speech 1/3 (Re-load) 2[Category] Nonprofit 2[Duration] 0:09:20 2[Views] 1012 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2010-08-29 2[Description] pt 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UbigWpF68I pt 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT1koQwAOgQ pt 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twHgKaAvyV0 Originally uploaded on (Bigsteelguy) July 2010 http://www.thevenusproject.com Sign the petition http://tinyurl.com/venu [06:10:45] lol [06:10:49] ?? bible [06:10:50] bible[1]: Bible content: Absurdity: 1339 | Injustice: 1280 | Cruelty and Violence: 1018 | Intolerance: 647 | Contradictions: 440 | Number of people killed by god: 2 391 421+ [06:10:52] bible[2]: Annotated bible point by point and much more, here: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com [06:10:54] bible[3]: Details of killing here: http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/08/how-many-has-god-killed.html [06:11:07] !windows [06:11:08] I can not help with that and i recommend to get GNU/Linux. Check: http://rbose.org/wiki/Free_OS [06:11:25] ??windows [06:11:43] ?? windows [06:11:44] windows: format c: [06:12:04] housing [06:12:09] how do u make house? [06:12:45] food production [06:13:43] there you go: http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/ [06:13:44] URL Title: Free Online Course Materials | Courses | MIT OpenCourseWare (at ocw.mit.edu) [06:14:42] interesting: permaculture: Many plants with a wide range of tolerance for light shade produces tastier leaves (such as dandelion leaves are less bitter doctor.) The same happens also with rhubarb, which is covered with a bucket, in the absence of light becomes more tasty. [06:15:12] are u pro permaculture? [06:15:16] yes [06:15:21] good [06:15:46] i think jacques did thought we would have nanotechnology in 2000 [06:15:55] lol [06:15:57] nanomanufacturing [06:16:04] think* [06:16:10] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE: of course we need to go step by step and we RBOSE exists less than 1 year. in this time we have quite a lot created with just a few people... if you look at tvp i wonder what they have created since 70ies? [06:16:34] why dont u send an email to jacues [06:16:37] jacques? [06:16:39] yea, he goes by believe instead of doing stuff [06:16:48] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE: we had contact with them [06:17:00] did u show ur site? [06:17:09] i was for example moderator at tzm and irc admin there [06:17:11] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE, you kidding? I was an administrator of TVP's website [06:17:20] lukas was admin at tzm and tvp site too [06:17:24] heh [06:17:33] what was the problem? [06:17:33] you don't have information, time to verify the data [06:17:54] i see a difference [06:18:04] ure being more practical [06:18:34] i will post a post :p [06:18:34] ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE: there were a lot problems [06:18:53] well about contacting them [06:19:08] did u diverge and then came up with RBOSE [06:19:08] ? [06:19:13] or u first came with it [06:19:18] and then u diverged? [06:19:56] http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/letter-to-peter-merola [06:19:57] URL Title: Letter To Peter Merola Conspiracy Science (at conspiracyscience.com) [06:20:46] http://www.4shared.com/document/eOt2Mebf/Letter_To_Peter.html [06:20:47] URL Title: Letter_To_Peter.pdf - 4shared.com - document sharing - download (at www.4shared.com) [06:21:12] *** Quits: anne_ (anne@RBOSE-2113666c.adsl.tpnet.pl) (Client closed the connection) [06:21:31] here you can see the one sighn it [06:21:32] http://www.rbefoundation.com/grouptopic.php?p=15685#p15685 [06:21:34] URL Title: Letter to Peter (at www.rbefoundation.com) [06:21:51] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [06:21:52] im reading the letter [06:22:31] *** Joins: anne_ (anne@RBOSE-2113666c.adsl.tpnet.pl) [06:24:49] wb anne_ :) [06:26:38] back [06:26:48] RBOSE is banned? [06:26:59] at TZM forum? [06:27:03] Yes but i dont care about tzm [06:27:15] i shall make a post then [06:27:24] you get banned lol [06:27:35] RBOSE dont want to have anything with TZM [06:28:02] But any one is welcome to RBOSE [06:28:35] ill show u my mpost [06:29:01] old `post [06:29:01] if you start to ask questions, you will get banned, critical thinking is an empty term when it comes to so called leadership of that fan club [06:29:13] i disagree lukas [06:29:21] just check it [06:29:24] make an experiment [06:29:55] such as shit u probably hear at tzm ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE [06:30:27] and if you say criticque about a mod then they do [06:30:34] !globalban ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE [06:30:36] ACTION globalbans ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE with the |UFO| which launches to Mars [06:30:39] I was watching a video on how chips are made from sand. It is a complex process that uses different machines at various stages. [06:30:43] oh [06:30:51] ;D [06:30:56] http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=3&id=303218 [06:31:00] URL Title: Manufacturing CIty has Primordial Machines' to make ANY MACHINE - The Zeitgeist Movement (at www.thezeitgeistmovement.com) [06:32:10] 1.die casting machine [06:32:13] 2.? [06:32:43] what a crappy forums.... no comment [06:33:11] yea, no words to describe this nonsense [06:33:23] The first city:''A place with the capacity to build almost anything but also with the capacity to duplicate those initial machines that build almost anything, no star trek duplicators but the planning of an industrial center which integrates most basic processes for production to allow for expansion within the first city itself and the creation of machines and systems for more RBE cities'' [06:33:40] The basic machines to build the machines and other things to consider... RBE City Mitosis [06:33:48] mitosis [06:34:22] http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=3&id=302883 [06:34:24] URL Title: The Basic Machines to Build the Machines. Thought about It? - The Zeitgeist Movement (at www.thezeitgeistmovement.com) [06:35:44] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [06:37:16] do u have messenger? [06:37:20] to chat [06:37:25] IRC [06:37:57] i have an idea [06:38:03] could u help me develop it? [06:38:19] http://rbose.org/wiki/IRC/Webchats [06:38:21] URL Title: IRC/Webchats - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [06:38:56] *** Joins: thyextendedsel (qwebirc@C85ECB.D28BAA.80567D.91EB54) [06:39:07] oh [06:39:15] its the same chat :p [06:39:20] yeah [06:39:22] may i give a suggestion? [06:39:39] the backgrounf od this site looks bloody [06:39:40] you can connect with irc client too [06:39:55] you can change color in qwebirc [06:40:15] maybe a blue color :p [06:40:22] plain color [06:40:31] and RBOSE in the backrpoung somwhere [06:40:36] left top right corener you have settings [06:41:01] ill be right back i need to change to a laptop [06:41:05] :p [06:41:11] im glad i found this chat [06:41:16] and about thr RBOSE [06:41:19] :D [06:41:26] brb [06:41:29] *** Quits: ThyExtendedSelf-RBOSE (ThyExtendedSe@C85ECB.D28BAA.80567D.91EB54) (Quit: www.RBOSE.org) [06:42:59] *** Quits: thyextendedsel (qwebirc@C85ECB.D28BAA.80567D.91EB54) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [06:48:56] *** Quits: anne_ (anne@RBOSE-2113666c.adsl.tpnet.pl) (Connection closed) [06:50:29] *** Joins: Thyextendedself (qwebirc@C85ECB.D28BAA.80567D.91EB54) [06:50:40] hi [06:50:46] am in the same chat? [06:50:47] hi [06:50:53] yes :p [06:50:54] yes you are [06:52:05] can we talk about how would a first RBOSE community be like [06:52:08] ? [06:52:47] when you have time please read http://rbose.org/wiki/RBOSE:WHW [06:52:48] URL Title: RBOSE:WHW - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [06:52:54] then you understand better what is RBOSE [06:53:23] Thyextendedself, the first community exists atm dude [06:54:42] where? [06:54:58] here [06:55:08] yes i see [06:55:08] :) [06:55:09] :) [06:56:59] so information is important, open source is key [06:57:50] as i said earlier... i thought of a university 2.0, it is a place where people can go and live and study [06:58:01] no tuition fees, etc. [06:58:10] because the university is a system of production as well [06:58:27] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIQS9anmWFg [06:58:28] You4Tube 2[Title] Releasing inventions as Copyleft? - Conversations with Jacque & Roxanne in Bogotá 2[Category] Nonprofit 2[Duration] 0:01:04 2[Views] 179 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2010-10-05 2[Description] What about releasing your innovations as Copyleft or some similar form of alternative rights management? From the series "Conversations with Jacque & Roxanne" in April 2010. Bogotá, Colombia. More at www.zeitgeistcolo [06:58:36] *** Quits: BranManFloMinux (BranManFloMin@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) (Client closed the connection) [06:58:46] they don't think open source is relevant at all [06:58:54] you have there a problem [06:59:21] fear and ego :| [06:59:53] well yes, jacques worked in that [07:00:02] worked in what? [07:00:15] proprietary ownership? [07:00:26] lets not discuss that [07:00:32] why not [07:00:42] you know they want to do things right, maybe they are wrong but not on purpose [07:00:51] yeah right [07:01:58] they are simple people lol [07:02:03] yea, they just make deals with UN (the institution which created World Bank and International Monetary Fund) [07:02:13] that was afake [07:02:19] really? [07:02:24] what deal [07:02:25] ? [07:02:30] let me show you [07:03:05] *** Joins: BranManFloMinux (BranManFloMin@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) [07:03:45] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vt8vPxwCBk [07:03:46] You4Tube 2[Title] ABSOLUTE PROOF of Venus Project connections to the UN & NWO elites (Roxanne Meadows speaks!) 2[Category] Education 2[Duration] 0:07:57 2[Views] 4134 2[Rating] 3.25 2[Uploaded] 2010-09-22 2[Description] Roxanne Meadows admits some connections between the UN and the Venus Project. First, through a meeting organized by Mikhail Gorbachev's foundation, Green Cross International, where both Roxanne and Jacque att [07:04:58] *** Joins: Baradosa (Baradosa@RBOSE-3857a858.pool.invitel.hu) [07:05:33] i saw [07:05:43] well i would try to contact the UN as well [07:06:10] if i was Jacques and Roxanne I would try to contact people there to tell about my project [07:06:18] vry likely they had not much of a response [07:06:24] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations#Specialized_institutions [07:06:25] URL Title: United Nations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) [07:06:43] so like she said... not even mentioned it.. because it is not really something ''out there'' [07:07:01] maybe they got 3 emails from UN people [07:07:10] amybe jacques wanted to show what TVP is [07:07:13] it was out there, doesn't? [07:07:22] no [07:07:33] there is no pint [07:07:35] :( [07:07:36] yea, and the video is a render of imagination [07:07:40] heh [07:07:48] just get over it [07:08:05] even i trioed to contact an organization lol [07:08:08] ehm [07:08:27] independent diplomat [07:08:31] the independent diplomat [07:08:34] JF work for UN do you see that? [07:08:40] NO hes does not [07:08:41] gosh [07:08:44] He does [07:08:58] UN or Dutch queen dont invite any one to the meeting [07:08:58] thats why people start hating this [07:09:01] and i know that! [07:09:14] i live in holland so i know what i am talking about [07:09:42] oh u do? [07:09:45] Yes [07:09:47] :p [07:09:49] lol [07:09:57] my best friend is dutch [07:10:03] >Dutch queen do not invite any one to her palace [07:10:23] You can ask him your friend [07:10:42] viper u know there could be a bit of exageration towards her comment [07:11:01] i am 100% JF work for UN [07:11:16] Thyextendedself, why you stand for central management? [07:11:20] do u consider the possibility that she contacted some people because she wanted to spread the word about TVP [07:11:21] ? [07:11:29] and that she got some brief responses back [07:11:30] WHy she was hiding it? [07:11:39] like she was stupid lol [07:11:44] then saying Yes we did [07:11:51] TVP = central system to rule the people [07:11:51] Please open your eyes [07:11:54] maybe she even thought mentioning it would be a good things... and trying to sound like they hace something to do with th eUN would be a good things, so it sounds mor esolid [07:12:09] UN sucks [07:12:18] not in everything [07:12:24] UN work for rich people not every one [07:12:38] just accept that fact [07:12:44] O_o [07:12:49] no [07:12:51] not that one [07:12:52] go by believe Viper! [07:12:52] lol [07:13:05] fuck UN [07:13:07] the fact that maybe TVP contacted the UN [07:13:12] and got some simple calls back [07:13:14] and emails [07:13:19] from some delegates [07:13:20] a [07:13:27] with a response like: [07:13:47] Dear Jaques Fresco.... I find ur ideas fascinating etc etc [07:13:55] at the moment there is not much we can do [07:13:56] etc etc [07:13:57] fuck JF [07:14:07] i dont want to see hear him any more [07:14:10] and fuck TZM [07:14:18] but thanks for contacting the UN etc etc [07:14:24] fuck UN too [07:15:10] Oh waint GOV car about people LOL [07:15:15] is that what you are saying? [07:15:20] *wait [07:15:35] so they got that response back frrom a delegate and roxane could say: weve have contact with some people at UN [07:15:38] so? [07:15:43] they are not talking about it [07:15:55] i dont care about JF or R [07:15:56] i bet if u ask someone at the UN about TVP [07:16:01] they would not know what it is [07:16:02] or TVP [07:16:21] look the venus project has no leaders [07:16:29] but people who control the machines [07:16:31] Jacque Fresco is the leader. [07:16:31] and i am God [07:16:36] why would the elites want that? [07:16:41] he is not [07:16:42] lol [07:16:44] u know that [07:16:47] he said once [07:17:06] *** Quits: Baradosa (Baradosa@RBOSE-3857a858.pool.invitel.hu) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [07:17:10] i dont care what he said [07:17:17] if someone who can do better than me was i living in TVP i would step out of the way [07:17:34] there is no TVP [07:17:36] what could he control? [07:17:49] stop attacking TVP [07:17:52] its just BS [07:17:55] ure not suggesting [07:18:02] well u are [07:18:04] but [07:18:11] then you can leave [07:18:12] ure trying at the same time disprove them [07:18:34] and taking anything, any comment, OMG did u hear that [07:18:36] UN!!! [07:18:37] OMG [07:18:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JRdYX5zDCQ <--- Jacque Fresco has little statues. [07:18:38] UN is Good Gov is good lol [07:18:38] You4Tube 2[Title] Jacque Fresco decides to Merchandize mini Statues of Himself 2[Category] Nonprofit 2[Duration] 0:02:19 2[Views] 154 2[Rating] 2.50 2[Uploaded] 2010-08-27 2[Description] (links below) http://conspiracyscience.com/forums/topic/tzm-hero-worshippers-the-cult-of-personality-excelling http://www.thezeitgeistmovement.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=99999&func=view&catid=231&id=203949#203969 [07:18:59] JF is ur God [07:19:02] haha [07:20:33] i saw it [07:20:44] he said if someone makes a statue of me it holds back the future? [07:20:55] WTF is wrong with you [07:20:55] i dont care what he said [07:21:17] TVP is not UN NWO [07:21:22] IT IS [07:21:27] who will control people? [07:21:37] The one that control computer [07:21:38] if there is no money [07:21:43] Think a bit PLEASE [07:21:48] well people do that [07:21:49] heh [07:22:20] if the un wanted to do something it would be something big heh [07:22:27] not a little thing like TVP [07:22:30] or [07:22:35] a movie like zeitgeist [07:22:38] UN have lots of mini groups [07:22:42] that says end the money systen lol [07:22:47] kill wall street} [07:22:59] Obama said CHANGE lol [07:23:02] so what??? [07:23:19] oh yes me want :p to be killed"" <---wall street 3elite [07:23:36] lest support TVP [07:23:41] NO [07:23:42] there will be a new currency [07:23:45] lol [07:23:53] so lets support it we will control people, we can seel them shit [07:24:17] we can have wars at TVP [07:24:19] ,slap Thyextendedself [07:24:19] * rBOTse smacks Thyextendedself with the carbon tax scam [07:24:21] oh yes :p [07:24:26] make money form war [07:24:29] lest support it [07:24:32] so NWO [07:24:36] :0 [07:25:13] u know threy dont belong to the NWO [07:25:14] lol [07:25:20] orthe un [07:25:41] what would they get out of it? [07:25:45] yea, we know that because you say that, that is so convincing, and this is very practical approach [07:25:53] well ok [07:25:56] tell me then [07:26:01] what would they get out of it [07:26:05] the elite [07:26:09] implementing TVP? [07:26:39] they would live in a dome, just an example :p, like everyone [07:26:40] ñpñ [07:26:42] lol [07:27:02] oh now they will live at the center of the city, in the technological fortress [07:27:16] oh no, people can go there and make decisions [07:27:26] You dont know if this EVER will happen [07:27] oh now they will live at the center of the city, in the technological fortress [07:27:31] it is not a technological fortress but an open environment [07:27:44] you want to get screwdriver, work on hardware designs, software, farming or just go with this BS crusade like fundamental religious extremist? [07:27:48] *** Joins: Grits (Hominy@RBOSE-512d31d6.shawneelink.net) [07:27:59] Hey Grits :D [07:28:06] hi Grits :) [07:28:08] no [07:28:17] TVP is not that [07:28:22] u want to make it sound like that [07:28:24] tvp is BS [07:28:31] if it is defficient in technical issues [07:28:31] tvp = BS [07:28:32] heh [07:28:35] it has not all the answers [07:28:42] it has NOTHING [07:28:49] neither do u [07:28:53] star wars have more then TVP lol [07:29:24] so dont say ure much better [07:29:30] check WIki [07:29:34] rbose wiki [07:30:37] you shold not expect jacques ot say [07:30:39] come live with me [07:30:45] fuck JF [07:30:53] should i say it again? lol [07:30:55] Thyextendedself, you really don't need to convince us to your believe system, you are a guest here, not we, we don't come to you and say we have a new messiah, so please don't sell us your version of the bible [07:31:10] lLOL [07:31:15] what bibgle [07:31:29] TVP = BS = Bible [07:31:30] vtv is fat [07:31:37] ask me something i would reply dogmatically [07:31:39] about TVP [07:31:56] like if i took the response from the TVP bible [07:31:57] aslk me [07:32:09] ok VTV is to fat to be the spokeperson of the venus project but not to fat to be the spokes person for twinkies [07:32:26] lol billll [07:32:34] You mean Liz? [07:32:43] i want the question bitche [07:32:45] s [07:33:08] vtv is so fat he is his own global RBE [07:33:12] question: [07:33:15] LoL [07:33:57] Thyextendedself, based on which dogma a central system is better than distributed solutions? [07:34:32] waht do u define as centralized? [07:34:53] every city should be self sufficient [07:34:56] you dont know what is that? lol [07:34:57] i dictatorship, capitalism [07:35:00] thats what TVP advocates [07:35:00] or tvp [07:35:04] i was going to add "if you can understand the question at all...." [07:35:07] i = a [07:35:09] lol [07:35:09] i know [07:35:10] hehe [07:35:12] i understand you [07:35:27] i thought this when jacques talked about centralized systems [07:35:41] i thought there should be no centralc omputer [07:35:47] but each city be the central computer [07:35:50] like a network [07:35:56] and there was light LOL [07:36:05] or dark light umm [07:36:24] Good thinking [07:35] i thought there should be no centralc omputer [07:36:26] yes well he can change his mind in 5 secinds [07:36:28] Thyextendedself: are you a computer scientist? [07:36:30] so why the heck you advocate TVP? are you full of contradictions like a religious person? [07:36:37] hehe [07:36:44] get practical [07:36:50] LoL [07:37:09] 1. every city self sufficient (good) [07:37:11] Tomato talk is cheap. [07:37:20] 2. centralized computer (not so good on my opinion) [07:37:35] he meant the computer that scans earths resources [07:37:39] yes how can VTV be the spokes person of the venus project that fat buy an't self-sustaining anything but his belly. [07:37:49] boy* [07:37:49] he be wrong lol in his logic but he is not evil [07:38:10] But he collects money on his radio show. [07:38:11] right [07:38:18] cuz he needs money [07:38:22] Right [07:38:25] to eat [07:38:29] he need lots of $ [07:38:30] Thyextendedself, next question: in age (2010 planet Earth) you have power of a desktop inside a pocket with a new phones, why you at all would like to build a space with limited volume and one computer at center? who do you wanna to exclude? [07:38:37] tell me how vtv is self-sustaining without mentioning whitetrash in the sentence [07:38:52] * BranManFloMinux burps [07:39:20] yeah [07:39:34] * Viper rolf [07:39:34] powerful computers that can scan earths resources will be everywhere [07:39:38] jaques is wrong [07:39:43] but he is not evil [07:39:50] i dont agree with him in that [07:39:55] * DNS wonders which idiot pays for VTVs proprietary software and his new computer components by thinkin to support the venus project [07:40:04] he is stupid JF is good only in BS talking like Politics you know [07:40:08] i will talk to jacques about the computers :p [07:40:13] Thyextendedself, he just don't know anything about computers, yet has a bunch of believes who think he does [07:40:19] VTV can't even take care of his children, how can we expect the guy to be a spoke person of a pile of shit let a lot a science fiction project called the venus project, oh wait maybe he can handle that [07:40:26] well if he changes his opinion on centralization [07:40:27] believers* [07:40:34] will u not be so bitchy on him? [07:40:37] what the hell is the penus project basically? [07:40:45] just a belief system [07:41:13] a rbe is just a belief system [07:41:28] tzm tvp rbe its all same shit [07:41:31] christianity is just a belief system too [07:41:44] if the central computer failes the RBE world is fuckes [07:41:45] :p [07:41:46] lol [07:41:51] fucked [07:41:54] yea [07:42:23] yes but jacques is not building anything [07:42:29] TRUE [07:42:36] and people all over the forum question it [07:42:43] jacques says he has not the final solution [07:42:44] lol [07:42:52] JF is only talking like politician [07:43:11] and since when he started to work on the project? since 70ies [07:43:15] and if they dont question deeply as u want it is not because they are censored but they dont know much [07:43:45] so the guy collect $ 40 years [07:43:46] They got some decent publicity. [07:43:47] wtf [07:43:58] VTV is so fat how can he be support a RBE? RBE is a global distribution of resources equal over planet earth; from the looks of VTV it looks like the guy has been overdistruption as he has to be around 350 pounds. It's clear here that VTV is in fact not a supported of RBE do to his weight. [07:44:14] nearly 40 years tvp and still not even any model done [07:44:35] lol [07:44:37] not even any blue print only lots of movies and talking [07:44:48] they should make a video [07:44:48] DNS, remember, they will still it! lol [07:44:51] debunking shit [07:45:17] How can you steal something that dont exist in first place? [07:45:29] Can some one explain to me please? :D [07:45:44] so u listen to alex jones? [07:45:51] and when he said TVP is NOW? [07:45:53] nwo [07:45:53] i dont care about alex jones [07:45:58] well he is silly [07:46:06] so ure getting the idea of NOW VP [07:46:08] from him [07:46:11] he said i remember [07:46:20] buy masks for the oil leak or something [07:46:21] from myself i am Thinking logicly [07:46:25] he was selling [07:46:32] poisonous gas leaking out lol [07:46:43] and then he says TVP NOW [07:46:45] NWO [07:46:49] oh yes lets believe hiom [07:46:57] Where does that logic come from? If you criticize TZM or TVP, then you love Alex Jones? [07:47:07] * BranManFloMinux laughs [07:47:10] NO lets belive JF lol like he will tell you YES i work for NWO hahahaha [07:47:17] well i thought so [07:47:20] since i know he mentioned [07:47:25] tvp was NWO [07:47:30] and u go like sheeps [07:47:32] yes it is :p [07:47:45] People who follow other blindly are sheep. [07:47:48] Not us. [07:47:50] ok [07:47:51] yes [07:48:02] btu dont be so hard on TVP [07:48:07] collaborate with it [07:48:23] ifn u did care that much u would go to venus florida and talk to him [07:48:24] film it [07:48:25] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@A96332.9941FA.C75A37.9F7C33) [07:48:27] and publish it [07:48:38] I'm in RBEF, come join us sometime. [07:48:41] Like he will tell you the true [07:48:42] RBEFoundation.com [07:48:43] :) [07:48:52] Why to waste time on people who are simply wrong about stuff? [07:49:11] hey come join my Zeitgeist movement [07:49:12] http://tzm.hopto.org/index/ [07:49:14] to have more support [07:49:14] URL Title: The Zeitgeist Movement (at tzm.hopto.org) [07:49:14] :F [07:49:16] :D [07:49:22] Errrrr.... [07:49:24] to change their mind if u think u have a better solution [07:49:40] you like it join rbose [07:49:42] not then dont [07:49:43] but now [07:49:44] no [07:49:45] Support for m people who don't know how to build stuff? Mercy. [07:49:47] u like drama [07:49:53] i wont waste my time on TVP, TZM all that BS [07:50:31] PJ and JF are not TVP [07:50:39] in my opinion, i never thought they were [07:50:46] Never? [07:50:48] LoL [07:50:49] no [07:50:51] Fresco says opinions are bad! [07:51:21] he said that buw what kind of opinions is he talking about [07:51:26] dont get fixed with two words [07:51:28] NO OPINIONS [07:51:29] lol [07:51:37] thats the problem with words [07:51:54] no opinions are bad! [07:51:58] He said no one should have the right to their own opinions. [07:52:03] He said that specifically. [07:52:07] that's the teennets of TVP you should know the tennets man! [07:52:15] LoL [07:52:18] yeah opinions based on what u believe rather [07:52:24] opinions based on facts [07:52:25] yeah [07:52:34] as u say over and over [07:52:39] about believing [07:52:40] You know... It's funny, we're like the atheists knowing more about TZM's bible (their christianity). [07:52:47] it shoulod not be my opinion that TVP is good [07:52:48] ? [07:52:51] u say that [07:53:06] what kind of facts did you represent here so far about tvp? [07:53:15] i didnt saw any sowwy [07:53:15] i dont represent anyone [07:53:31] But you seem very pro TZM and TVP. [07:53:38] And have strong emotional attachments too. [07:53:42] i know ure trying to disagree and take any detail to make it sound WRONG [07:53:50] instead oif really wanting to collaborate [07:53:55] if u get oen disagreement [07:53:56] OMG [07:53:57] No, I disagree based on bad axioms. [07:54:03] lets go dramatoc [07:54:03] I'm not trying to disagree. [07:54:09] Thyextendedself: colabrate with what? [07:54:17] with who? [07:54:19] with him [07:54:23] him? [07:54:29] yes jaques [07:54:32] this rock band? [07:54:32] instead of hating [07:54:34] ah [07:54:36] heh [07:54:58] i dont hate fresco [07:55:08] Thyextendedself, we are against central solutions, authority, proprietary works, hierarchical structures -- why we would like to "collaborate" with something very opposite? [07:55:15] but with TVP or JF? [07:55:18] who said that? [07:55:20] lol [07:55:20] i just hate that he makes nothin for free [07:55:21] * Viper confused [07:55:26] what is the hierarchy in TVP? [07:55:29] not the forum [07:55:34] or PJ [07:55:35] all his stuff is proprietary [07:55:40] and this sucks a lot [07:55:48] can not agree on that [07:55:48] maybe he doesnt have much [07:55:51] :) [07:55:52] I can find that pyramid I think. [07:55:54] LoL [07:55:55] Hold on. [07:56:02] I'll show you the hierachy. [07:56:05] k [08:00:01] *** Quits: BranManFloMinux (BranManFloMin@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) (Client closed the connection) [08:00:54] pj, is the leader, under him the global admins, under them the global mods, under them the mods under them the users [08:01:18] Thyextendedself, http://bit.ly/h9wBVH [08:01:31] one thing for certain [08:01:40] Jaceus never participates in the forum [08:01:42] i wonder why [08:01:55] *** Joins: BranManFloMinux (BranManFloMin@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) [08:01:59] cuz he thingks its shitty like you [08:02:26] like u think [08:03:30] but lets clean our minds [08:03:36] and talk of something else [08:03:47] ok [08:03:55] what kind of operating system do you use? [08:03:58] :) [08:04:02] me? [08:04:04] yea [08:04:08] xp [08:04:14] !windows [08:04:15] I hate every operating system made by microsoft, especially windows vista and windows 7. Check: http://rbose.org/wiki/BadVista & http://rbose.org/wiki/Windows7sins [08:04:25] hehe [08:04:36] what? [08:04:54] well i had [08:04:57] that other one [08:05:04] but i ran it from a cd [08:05:07] that other one = ? [08:05:17] ubuntu [08:05:35] but why u still on xp then? lol [08:05:46] cuz i couldnt use some programs [08:05:48] gamer? [08:06:13] not much [08:06:30] what kind of apps u couldnt run? [08:06:31] if you use xp you have two choices: being a theft of corporate supporter - which you choose? Is that contradictions also is not a problem for you? [08:06:54] maybe my copy is pirate :p [08:06:58] TZM pyramid: http://i48.tinypic.com/29mm5wp.jpg [08:07:25] that pyramid is silly [08:07:38] who owns ur website? [08:07:52] can i modify its design= [08:07:52] ? [08:08:09] LoL [08:08:16] tinypic.com [08:09:10] can i write something at the RBOSE [08:09:11] website [08:09:13] ? [08:09:18] IN wiki, sure. [08:09:23] Thyextendedself, the look is always the most important? [08:09:35] not the look [08:09:35] *** Joins: hacked_ (vincesfree@RBOSE-0f4d4171.rev.accesscomm.ca) [08:09:41] the display of info [08:09:50] morning hacked_ :D [08:09:53] hi hacked_ :D [08:10:02] morning guys [08:10:02] !morning vince [08:10:03] ACTION would like to say Good Morning to vince, but missboty dont knows where vince is, and can only speak to DNS or someone who is online in #RBOSE [08:10:09] :O [08:10:13] but TZM is terrible lol [08:10:15] the page [08:10:17] actually almost nite! [08:10:21] tzm.com [08:10:21] .seen vince [08:10:22] I don't know who vince is. [08:10:26] .seen vinces [08:10:26] vinces is online right now (as hacked) ! [08:10:28] :-0 [08:10:29] :O [08:10:32] hi hacked_ [08:10:34] haha [08:11:10] oh canada not china sorry lol [08:11:14] Thyextendedself, you mean tzm.gov [08:11:19] lol [08:11:22] no [08:11:33] !poke all [08:11:35] ACTION pokes everybody in #RBOSE a bit with a fun trigger [08:11:37] tzm.corp? :D [08:11:39] well i know its not the best thing [08:11:42] LoL [08:11:44] but the vision of TVP [08:11:47] is what i like [08:11:51] as u do [08:12:03] * Viper 10   14Danny Chen 10 14TranceSound Session 120 on ETN.fm 4☣ 14http://toronto.etn.fm:8130/listen.pls 103Exaile10 [08:12:07] RBE RBOSE [08:12:11] NO [08:12:14] rbose is not rbe [08:12:14] wonder where did u get that inspiration [08:12:15] lol [08:12:22] i know [08:12:34] but really [08:12:40] from Free and Open Source [08:12:46] ?? foss [08:12:47] foss: Free and Open Source Software: 0). The freedom to run the program, for any purpose. 1). The freedom to study and learn how the program works (open source), and adapt it to your needs. 2). The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbors. 3). The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits. Feel free to join the #FOSS channel in our IRC. :-) [08:12:49] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@A96332.9941FA.C75A37.9F7C33) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [08:12:50] i have read much of ur website i will now [08:12:51] *** Joins: kman (kman@11ED70.39EA55.859DFC.C0D209) [08:12:53] havnet [08:12:55] read much [08:12:57] * [08:13:01] but i want [08:13:03] morning kman ! [08:13:15] it seems more content-full :p [08:13:55] *** kman is now known as Guest58429 [08:14:31] *** Quits: hacked_ (vincesfree@RBOSE-0f4d4171.rev.accesscomm.ca) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [08:14:40] whats the bsic thing thing? [08:14:43] basic [08:14:52] !morning kman [08:14:53] ACTION would like to say Good Morning to kman, but missboty dont knows where kman is, and can only speak to DNS or someone who is online in #RBOSE [08:15:04] =_0 [08:15:07] *** Guest58429 is now known as kman- [08:15:16] Herro :3 [08:15:22] MINING [08:15:22] hi kman- :) [08:15:29] do u have a solution on mining? [08:15:55] ||_ |[]| ||_ [08:16:48] *** [o_0] is now known as God [08:17:15] read bible i know all solutions!!! :D [08:17:26] lol [08:18:23] how can i get the materials not to build a computer but to build the machines that build computers [08:18:46] are you kidding me? [08:18:58] no [08:19:09] Thyextendedself, you want to build computers without knowledge how to build computers? LOL [08:19:15] no [08:19:18] not me [08:19:20] u tell me [08:19:30] im not asking lol [08:19:37] to put it in my backyard [08:19:45] im asking to think of the process [08:21:16] grow food in backyard first [08:21:27] I think a component salvaging robot would be a good start. [08:21:30] dont start with building factory LOL [08:22:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GQmtITMdas [08:22:09] You4Tube 2[Title] From sand to chip - How a CPU is made 2[Category] Tech 2[Duration] 0:10:14 2[Views] 141605 2[Rating] 4.86 2[Uploaded] 2009-07-18 2[Description] AMD shows how a CPU is made with all major steps of the process. From: http://www.globalfoundries.com/ ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ THERE IS NO HQ VIDEO AVAILABLE. ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ [08:22:13] it seems so complicated [08:22:16] :/ [08:23:38] ,quote random [08:23:38] DNS: Quote #54: "I made a zombie movie before. ~ Fat64" (added by dns at 06:59 PM, August 04, 2010) [08:23:42] lol [08:23:44] ,quote random [08:23:44] DNS: Quote #70: "Every great advance in science has issued from a new audacity of imagination. ~ John Dewey" (added by dns at 11:57 PM, August 04, 2010) [08:23:56] ,quote random [08:23:56] DNS: Quote #153: "Am I the only one tired of this Ben Franklin motherfucker? Electricity? What the fuck is talking about!? ~ Nathaniel Buckner" (added by BranManFloMore at 02:53 AM, November 16, 2010) [08:24:10] 0_o [08:24:35] lol [08:24:44] ,praise BranManFloMinux [08:24:44] * rBOTse Nothing rox like BranManFloMinux [08:24:46] ^^ [08:24:47] what machines do u need to make those machines? [08:25:05] a chip manufacturing facility [08:25:09] One of my favorite quotes. [08:25:10] LoL [08:26:01] Thyextendedself, look up Jerry Ellsworth. I heard shes got her own chip lab ( even a scanning tunneling microscope if im correct ). [08:26:31] yes? [08:26:32] :P [08:26:42] VV3 z33D br4iN fiX0rs for the 7zM Cr4P [08:26:54] thats what i wanna heart [08:27:06] muhahah [08:27:22] "I made a zombie movie before. ~ Fat64" <--- LoL [08:27:24] haha [08:27:35] ,quote random [08:27:35] Viper: Quote #146: "We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery ~ Buckminster Fuller" (added by Kebap at 08:23 PM, November 14, 2010) [08:27:51] ill read the website and check on jerry ellsworth [08:27:52] :p [08:27:56] ansd come tomorrrow [08:27:58] ,quote random [08:27:58] Viper: Quote #119: "So that's what we're about, you understand. Let's be serious about this. This is serious business. We have a world to take back. In order to take it back, we need four things: Free software, free hardware, free culture, and free spectrum. And we are getting them, all. Bit, by bit, by bit. -- Eben Moglen" (added by lukas at 03:23 PM, September 08, 2010) [08:27:58] thanks [08:28:01] =) [08:28:34] 4x Free :D [08:28:38] :D [08:28:54] yes [08:29:56] ure being real and practical [08:30:06] and you talk about believes [08:30:13] sorry, lol [08:30:22] who said that quote? [08:30:30] eben? [08:30:34] yes [08:30:38] Eben Moglen [08:31:14] ok so website, jerry and eben [08:31:21] But really, Thyextendedself , i think the main issue isnt the manufacturing/assembly process itself, but rather the resource pooling and systems for reuse of broken product. [08:31:23] ill read [08:31:58] everything is an issue [08:32:14] cya, thanks [08:32:20] If your just talking about making chips without having systems for taking care of the waste of non usable product, your really just talking about a system for producing waste. [08:32:21] *** Quits: Thyextendedself (qwebirc@C85ECB.D28BAA.80567D.91EB54) (Quit: Page closed) [08:32:26] Oh well... [08:32:39] yeah [08:32:41] happens kman- :D [08:32:51] Had to give it a shot. [08:33:25] this guy was talking crap about 7zM and 7\/P for hours... [08:33:35] evening friends [08:33:43] *** Guest11202 is now known as duxck [08:33:53] Evening duxck :D [08:33:57] or morning? :P [08:34:04] `time [08:34:05] <|UFO|> Viper: 08:34 AM, December 12, 2010 [08:34:08] hi Martin :) [08:34:08] well i did half sleep for 2 hours [08:34:18] hi Lukas [08:34:37] ?? ownership [08:34:37] ownership[1]: The system of ownership of ideas: [08:34:39] ownership[2]: Part1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN00_v7gpbo [08:34:41] ownership[3]: Part2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDFVAA_Mb5c [08:34:43] ownership[4]: Part3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlf_3JD3l8I [08:34:50] :-) [08:35:04] rbotse ignore missboty ? :D [08:35:28] DNS, maybe this one just: http://dotsub.com/view/a29b44f7-bf4b-4928-a4a4-7a1359bceb55 [08:35:29] URL Title: The System Of Ownership Of Ideas - Transcription in progress | dotSUB (at dotsub.com) [08:35:30] nice DNS :D [08:36:26] yea good idea to add dotsub viper thx [08:36:27] :) [08:36:32] heh [08:36:41] you sleepy too DNS? :P [08:36:51] i am off guys [08:36:54] Good night! [08:37:00] Viper, sleep well :) [08:37:03] Take care man. [08:37:09] ty for python call lukas :) [08:37:13] *class [08:37:25] not a problem, that was a pleasure :) [08:37:27] * Viper Zzzz [08:37:32] *** Viper is now known as Out`Of`Control [08:37:33] ?? ownership [08:37:35] ownership[1]: The system of ownership of ideas: [08:37:37] ownership[2]: http://dotsub.com/view/a29b44f7-bf4b-4928-a4a4-7a1359bceb55 [08:37:41] :) [08:37:43] :) [08:38:10] You had a python class? Without me? [08:38:13] ^^ [08:38:49] kman-, yes for 5 hours i think, lol [08:39:59] More like chatting in mumble then, eh? [08:40:18] VNC + mumble + gobby [08:40:56] kman-, do you have some time to work together? [08:41:05] *** Quits: BranManFloMinux (BranManFloMin@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) (Client closed the connection) [08:43:03] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [08:52:02] lukas, sure. I'll be here in about one hour. [08:52:31] kman-, great! and can i take from you 2 minutes right now? [08:52:50] Sure thing. [08:52:52] Mumble? [08:53:26] yes, please join :D [09:01:09] *** Quits: kman- (kman@11ED70.39EA55.859DFC.C0D209) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [09:02:17] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [09:15:12] *** Joins: kman- (kman@11ED70.39EA55.859DFC.C0D209) [09:24:03] "As agreed with SeqRel we have continued this effort by creating a RSS feed to combine user contributed content on the websites of our sister organizations (RBOSE, RBEF/Umbrella and Atlas Initiative). An interface to this has been published on our front page in the "Technate-wide news" section. It automatically lists the 7 most recent forum posts, wiki contributions or project updates anywhere in the community." [09:24:24] Sister organization? Are we talking about the same RBOSE here? 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[11:58:56] *** Joins: thyextendedself (qwebirc@C85ECB.D28BAA.80567D.91EB54) [12:00:06] http://earth2movie.blogspot.com/2010/04/earth-20-finds-its-own-way.html?showComment=1292036718217 [12:00:07] URL Title: Earth 2.0 - Blog: Earth 2.0 Finds Its Own Way (at earth2movie.blogspot.com) [12:01:22] why cant i register? [12:02:06] that's sad yo [12:03:29] *** Joins: Tuohimetsa (Mouho1@RBOSE-acec1f1c.yok.fi) [12:04:11] hi [12:04:18] I am the sad collector [12:04:23] let's be happay [12:04:30] haha [12:04:43] why cant i register at the site [12:04:50] is it not yet available? [12:04:58] what site bro? [12:05:13] RBOSE [12:07:24] o_O [12:09:14] thyextendedself: sounds strange, but if you join #developers here and highlight averyone there, you should soon get a good answer i guess =) [12:09:38] how do i join [12:09:38] yeah [12:09:42] what do i type [12:09:51] developers [12:09:59] /j #developers [12:10:08] are you using the webbrowser irc client? [12:10:18] /j #developers [12:10:33] i think so [12:10:38] no space before /j [12:10:52] ( or /join ) [12:11:05] thyextendedself: i posted your question there allrteady =P [12:13:50] http://robertwensman.wordpress.com/2010/12/11/open-letter-to-peter-joseph-jacque-fresco-and-the-zeitgeistmovement/ [12:13:52] URL Title: Open letter to Peter Joseph, Jacque Fresco and the Zeitgeistmovement Idémaskinen (at robertwensman.wordpress.com) [12:15:07] kalken: did tyou read the last comment on earth2.0movie blog? [12:15:28] no? [12:15:30] http://earth2movie.blogspot.com/2010/04/earth-20-finds-its-own-way.html?showComment=1292036718217 [12:15:31] URL Title: Earth 2.0 - Blog: Earth 2.0 Finds Its Own Way (at earth2movie.blogspot.com) [12:15:41] ^^ [12:15:56] * FAT64 barkin' at the gate [12:15:58] let me in [12:16:06] as usual "I told you so" doesn't really cut it xD [12:16:13] FAT64: huh? [12:16:35] Caly: aroof! [12:17:35] [12:17:49] nice :) [12:18:02] :) [12:18:06] mhm! [12:20:21] œ_þ [12:20:32] have RBOSE decided for a transition country yet? [12:20:38] or like, a group of people here [12:21:24] for what? [12:21:32] transition happens everywhere all the time. [12:22:09] that centralized transition mubo jumbo it Jerk Fresco nonsense semantics. [12:22:15] *is [12:22:39] yeah, but it's kind of obvious that sweden is too damn cold to live in [12:22:46] unless we harness more power [12:22:46] WORD! [12:22:54] it's harder, what I am saying [12:22:54] :D [12:23:04] very much so. [12:23:22] so, I was just curious what's on people's mind [12:23:22] if we're talking habitath development for the masses anyway [12:23:40] i mean, to initialise as effective and "cheap" as possible, absolutely right. [12:23:41] an emergin society! [12:23:47] mm :) [12:24:03] well, i've been looking into it some, and there is just a jungele of aspects to consider. [12:24:50] I was thinking of working every sunday on this, discussing it with my peers at home as well with peeps here, (sunday are good days, I am a pretty busy student/employee) [12:24:55] like [12:24:58] stating all the factors [12:24:58] like... health-risks. malaria and so on. Then there is a cultural aspect, were can we live fruitfully and not be killed by fanatics? [12:25:00] weighing them [12:25:07] exactly :) [12:25:20] there is so much corruption and crap in some countries [12:25:41] do we want to live in a EU land (propably not) USA? Defenitly not. a Commonwealth-nation? Perhaps (NZ etc) [12:26:07] Spain, Italy is definitely on the list of consideration [12:26:31] NZ is so freakin' far away, but there are probably so many likeminded people in NZ so getting workforce is no prob [12:26:50] spain and portugal are liberal enough for my taste, but is in under EU crap laws and force... [12:27:01] yeah, right.. hm [12:27:06] will there be a huge problem with building permits? [12:27:17] yeah, i like NZ, i don't care about distance at all. [12:27:21] ok [12:27:50] NZ is so attractive in this equation [12:28:01] but NZ is commonwealt, most nation is not. If you did NOT come from a commonwealth nation, it's really hard to get a permit to stay or live there [12:28:20] right :/ [12:28:27] as far as i can tell from regulations anyway, but... (?) [12:28:36] swedish chapter apparently had a call out for developers to the homepage tzm.se [12:28:41] but like , we do not have to bring everyone from rbose willing to move there , I guess we will become several groups [12:28:59] if a group of progressive environmental tekkies want to start something up and has a good plan, authoraties might soften. [12:28:59] they seems real easy on swedes at least. :) [12:29:06] all we can do is try =) [12:29:09] yeah :) [12:29:24] kalken: mkay? [12:29:30] one was expected to write a letter to (you know who) describing why one want to work with development in "the movement" :D [12:29:54] lol. Been there, done that. [12:30:02] waste of effort. [12:30:02] guess they need obedient workes, not individuals capable of critical thinking [12:30:13] but ofc. [12:30:26] exactly kalken [12:30:31] gotta love the path of Earth2.0 [12:30:36] =) [12:30:45] i did not even have the strength to begin that discussion, because i had no time looping back to the point when they decided "my way or the highway" [12:30:48] :D [12:31:09] right. [12:32:05] I'm starting to see the reseblence between TZM/Jaque and Kim Jong lI ... [12:32:29] one can find patterns in everything if one looks deeply :D [12:32:42] true, but you know what i mean. [12:32:58] ignoring all facts, living out dellusional fantasies [12:33:03] im just thinking about the video institutions vs collaboration [12:33:05] its spot on [12:33:14] getting all the hate, but not recognising it. [12:33:23] yeah, indeed. [12:33:52] what's his name? Shay Kirby? or sumthin.. [12:33:57] never get that one right xD [12:34:09] yes. But its also sad to see that different "RBEgroups" are fighting with each other. They are basically all on the same path when one breaks it down [12:34:30] Yes and No [12:34:34] -_- [12:34:47] they want to make money money! [12:34:48] guess that comes out of that most people tend to stick to opinionbased discussions instead of actually improving things that exist [12:34:53] but there's a limit when you try to take from the house of bees [12:35:00] i see flat structure as MORE important than how we divide resources. [12:35:16] and meny RBE groups has yet to think enough about it. [12:35:34] I mean... basic (modern) socio-economics [12:35:58] yes. Still many people confuse flat structure with no structure and "everybody does what they want". And its not true when it comes to projects [12:36:20] behavioural science going for fairness [12:36:25] its true in a sence that everybody can do something different, but its not true in the sense that everybody can mess with everything [12:36:47] yeah, it's not Anarchism just becouse it's emergent. [12:36:48] so structure still needs to be there [12:36:57] word Caly, they seem to be focusing more on control and talking to other people what they can and what they cannot, instead of doing real things [12:37:00] Caly: exactly [12:37:01] <--Former Anarchist activist. [12:37:22] *** Joins: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-3855d092.tbcn.telia.com) [12:37:54] * lukas is tired with all those freaks who just think how to control others [12:37:57] But then ofc, there is the matter of how WE tackle their loss of grasp on this issue. [12:38:28] like.. i had a hard time to get folks NOT to bash DustWolf who has taken alot of effort as to getting us to level. [12:38:52] yes, exactly what i mean [12:39:12] well, i was not bashing him yet, but I'm ready to do so, lol ;) [12:39:21] most people are in these kinds of places because they are not satisfied. But many seem to be focused on throwing that anger out on others [12:39:39] [09:24:03] "As agreed with SeqRel we have continued this effort by creating a RSS feed to combine user contributed content on the websites of our sister organizations (RBOSE, RBEF/Umbrella and Atlas Initiative). An interface to this has been published on our front page in the "Technate-wide news" section. It automatically lists the 7 most recent forum posts, wiki contributions or project updates anywhere in the community." [12:39:40] [09:24:24] Sister organization? Are we talking about the same RBOSE here? [12:39:41] Simple rule of thumb, they don't know better 'cus they havn't experienced anything else. [12:39:46] without thinking the simplest thought "does this make anything better" before they post [12:39:52] so educate rather than bash... [12:39:54] [09:32:05] yea kman-, they make decisions among their directors and behind our backs, fukking arrogant :X [12:40:23] really folks, even if we're sittin here beeing cocky, we've all been there, don't kidd yourseld. [12:40:49] *** Joins: thyextendedself11 (qwebirc@C85ECB.D28BAA.80567D.91EB54) [12:40:53] hi [12:41:03] hello :D [12:41:53] o/ [12:41:57] lets spread integrated replicable, easy to assemble manufacturing centers throught the world [12:42:02] :p [12:42:15] thyextendedself11: google FabLabs [12:42:18] ;) [12:42:19] haha [12:42:20] yeah [12:42:23] i did [12:42:34] i made a post on it [12:42:38] at TZM [12:42:45] mkay? [12:42:51] wasting your time, are you? [12:42:56] ^^ [12:43:07] well we dont know much [12:43:24] thyextendedself11: in case you missed it, TZM is not interested in factual sollutions. [12:43:36] lol [12:43:47] if you ever really think for yourselft, you'll be thoown out of there. [12:43:56] you are part of the movement [12:44:05] the essence of it [12:44:12] *** Quits: thyextendedself (qwebirc@C85ECB.D28BAA.80567D.91EB54) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [12:44:15] WE are :D [12:44:15] thyextendedself11, you could be a pope [12:44:17] not TZM anymore, no. [12:44:37] well i saw the fablabs [12:44:41] WE are part of the RBE movement, not the TZM "movement" (corp) [12:44:45] ok [12:44:58] TZM (r) (c) (tm) [12:45:01] lol [12:45:02] i want to think of the movement as the actions of every individual on earth combined :) [12:45:16] without any flags... [12:45:16] kalken: i'd like to call that living. [12:45:24] :) [12:45:25] TZM.co.nz [12:45:26] x) [12:45:27] Caly, agreed [12:45:28] lables are moot [12:45:48] did u know u can submit content to TVP website [12:45:51] ? [12:45:54] thyextendedself11: nah, seriously, most of us just left that crap behind. [12:46:08] thyextendedself11, fukk TVP [12:46:10] thyextendedself11: and WHY would anyone want to do that? [12:46:24] i think it better if u submit a link to RBOSE [12:46:25] TVP is a scam, and they are crooks. [12:46:38] k we were over that [12:46:38] they are just leaches [12:46:50] keeps us united lol [12:47:16] they take money from people and build a theme part and you seem even not read their page about it [12:47:23] park* [12:47:26] thyextendedself11: any references to RBOSE, BREF or alike is effectively removed from TZM or TVP. They don't apply openness, sadly [12:47:49] and if a link to ur site is just there right now? [12:47:51] at TVP [12:47:51] ? [12:48:01] thyextendedself11: explain: why has TVP not released a singel item under Creative Commons? [12:48:21] what does that say about the preching about "A common heritage for all people" ? [12:48:24] cuz jacques doesnt know about that [12:48:26] he is 90 [12:48:34] he doesnt surf the internet [12:48:39] he makes designs [12:48:44] *** Joins: ebro (qwebirc@RBOSE-7df911d6.c-220.TvNetWork.Hu) [12:48:45] thyextendedself11: try it, it might get you to wake up ;) [12:48:56] *** Quits: ebro (qwebirc@RBOSE-7df911d6.c-220.TvNetWork.Hu) (Quit: Page closed) [12:49:02] can we talk about the fab labs? [12:49:10] thyextendedself11: yeah, he's 30 years behind, why the fashination? [12:49:18] sure. [12:49:19] * lukas steps back out of this crap, four hours ant night about were enough [12:49:30] cuz he brought us together [12:49:37] and if we says he is bad [12:49:50] thats not good [12:49:57] the shell of something that is growing is always adapts to what it contains [12:50:02] people dont see something solid [12:50:22] well, he says some good things, sadly he does not by any means live by he's own preeching. [12:50:32] thyextendedself11: Jesus bless you! [12:50:35] rbe, rbose, rbes, rbus [12:50:36] etc [12:50:38] Caly: does anyone? :D [12:50:55] thyextendedself11: read on the Earth2.0Movie blog... [12:51:07] kalken: Grits does ;) [12:51:08] whats that movie about [12:51:14] ive heard it a lot [12:51:20] and i try to make change. [12:51:23] if half the ppl who complain about jaque and peter did half the things they did, we would be somewhere completely different [12:52:11] somewhere completely better (imo) [12:52:18] i bet [12:52:50] can a fablab replicate itself? [12:53:00] can a laser cutter machine [12:53:01] http://earth2movie.blogspot.com/2010/04/earth-20-finds-its-own-way.html [12:53:02] URL Title: Earth 2.0 - Blog: Earth 2.0 Finds Its Own Way (at earth2movie.blogspot.com) [12:53:15] laser cut the parts for another laser cuter [12:53:39] ? [12:53:43] thyextendedself11: well, it CULD, onlyRepRap are focusing in that direction as for now. Hence, RepRap is at my focus [12:54:11] i wrote to jeri [12:54:12] :p [12:54:14] RepRap is one of the technologies we were told NOT to woek on in TZM becouse "it had no relevance" [12:54:25] Totalitarianism at work. [12:54:44] who said? [12:54:47] JF [12:54:47] i guess most stuff on RepRap has been clensed out of the TZM forums... [12:55:07] Haha, JF has NO IDEA what RepRap is. He can't make money out of it. [12:55:18] its so nice but it prints only plastic parts, as to now [12:55:26] No, it was DarkDancer and TankTop that said that. [12:55:48] as i said jacque never goes to that forum [12:56:05] thyextendedself11: sure, but it's really new as a concept, and the developer team and community are growing exponentially. [12:56:17] thyextendedself11: yeah, he must be your GOD [12:56:18] there are like 1000 timmes more devs now than 2 years ago. [12:56:27] yes but that specificall wont give all the solutions [12:56:45] why the Obsession with scam Fresco? [12:56:56] is reprap ur god? [12:57:09] cuz he is hot [12:57:15] This PJ the Jesus and Jaque the God is getting really old. can't anyone think for them self anymmore? [12:57:34] jacque is hot [12:57:52] nah, RepRap is a dynnamic evolving set of technologies. Transparent, free, open.. everything TVP and TZM is not. [12:58:17] Jack is soon to be cold and six feet under. Yet the ego is super apparent. [12:58:36] did you know he's been in jail for robbery? [12:58:38] i guess not.. [12:58:44] i dont care [12:58:49] thyextendedself11, you haven't heard about smarter people that JF? you live alone on an island or what? [12:58:53] probably he hhas nothing to eat [12:58:55] that he left his wife and family for an underage girl (roseanne) [12:58:57] no [12:58:57] guess not.. [12:59:05] i have heard about the fab lab guy [12:59:06] neil [12:59:10] the? [12:59:15] It's a MIT project. [12:59:20] yes [12:59:20] not a person. [12:59:27] u said people [12:59:34] lukas [12:59:57] i saw the video at RBOSE [13:00:00] of cameron [13:00:07] open source architecture [13:00:12] you DO know that most people here left TZM, and many of us was working really hard on it... [13:00:23] ah [13:00:41] i just hope they integrate here [13:00:45] both projects [13:00:54] well, its the same essnce like i said [13:01:06] do not try to serparate [13:01:33] well, we are open to all projects that is in line of RBE, ecology, decentralization, transparency etc. [13:02:02] we made BIG efforts to get integration etc. before we left to start RBOSE.org [13:02:32] yea, fukk-tvp and pro-tvp is same essence, exactly like science and religion thought, do not separate it [13:03:20] anyways... [13:04:08] back [13:04:12] i heard someone singing [13:04:16] :/ [13:04:19] scarily [13:04:23] so in about 24 days we are going to watch our neigbours fooling our children by dressing up as the man that does not exist :D [13:04:23] decentralized production is the game. RepRap, FabLabs, ECB, Lifetrac... [13:04:31] *** Joins: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9f8d8d9b.catv.broadband.hu) [13:04:38] kalken: haha [13:04:39] *12 days [13:04:43] hi Emerik [13:04:50] helo [13:05:57] *** Quits: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9f8d8d9b.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [13:06:03] well maybe we dont need a reprap [13:06:10] to get started [13:06:27] well, we're building three of them allready. [13:06:33] yes? [13:06:35] sure. [13:06:37] maybe you don't need, but we certainly do [13:06:52] as we said, we produce transition, not just talk and spread propaganda BS [13:06:58] what do u know about [13:06:59] ? [13:07:10] know what? [13:07:16] of what u do [13:07:19] ur field [13:07:57] my field? In RBOSE that would mainly be decentralizing technology and organisational structures. [13:07:59] Caly, i start to wonder if this is a nonsense bot, seriously [13:08:10] lol [13:08:21] i meant are u computer engieers [13:08:23] ? [13:08:30] something of that sort [13:08:36] I will be hopefully this summer. :) [13:08:54] by trade i'm a ScreenPrinter/Motrcycle Mechanic/Machinist/Mechanical constructor/bouncer/electromechanic [13:08:54] cool [13:08:56] but I prefer crazy homeless it-person [13:09:05] bouncer! [13:09:10] strong man [13:09:16] good [13:09:21] i leave the IT stuff to the other wizzards here, lukas kalken Billll Absalom etc. [13:09:51] FAT64: oh, i'm down to about 96kg now =( [13:10:13] would really need some training agin. But who has time now that the cyber warfare is on. [13:10:15] fvinally [13:10:38] what can i make with a reprap? [13:10:40] yeah [13:10:51] I should drop down and do 100 pushups now, brb [13:10:52] thyextendedself11: well, anything plastic [13:10:56] that would be truly uself to my life at its current stage of development [13:11:20] well there i saw an issue [13:11:25] to begin with. soot it'll be able to print in other materials, circuitboerds, concrete, silicone etc etc. [13:11:27] even metal [13:11:29] well not if u recycle plastic but [13:11:40] but it comes from oil [13:12:00] when? [13:12:17] there are initial designs for plastic home recycling for reprap, yes. Grinding your garbage to crust that can be made into new stuff. [13:12:36] *** Joins: absalom_ (absalom@RBOSE-7dd48b18.77-105-205.netatonce.net) [13:12:50] thyextendedself11: well, the real goal of RepRap wwhen it comes to plastics, is polylactic acid plastics, made out of plants. [13:13:00] yes? [13:13:13] Caly, you see [13:13:22] but as for now, there is enough plaastic in the landfills to make anything plaasitc anyone would need. [13:13:32] lukas: what? [13:13:58] i saw tedtalk of that plastic [13:14:04] i remember [13:14:08] just mine tha mountains of garbage \o/ [13:14:27] yeah, kman is a chemist, he's learning about it =) [13:14:37] hm [13:14:41] im nothing [13:15:07] i havent decided on what to study [13:15:22] well, you can be anything you want by simply searching the onfo on the net... [13:15:31] take Khan Academy for instance. [13:15:34] Time to learn IPSec. [13:15:38] it's the bomb [13:15:38] love Caly and all others <3 [13:15:44] yup ive seen [13:15:46] FAT64: <3 [13:15:58] but something practical is the best [13:16:00] hands on [13:16:41] i wanted many things... film making, architect, international relations [13:17:05] well, there are soo many thinks you can do, like.. what do you want to do? ...hardestthing is to gather so much generall information about the real state and nature of things to even have the slightest clue as to what you want =/ [13:17:06] hehe [13:17:06] just do it! [13:17:18] be the change. [13:17:19] try everything and decide later :D [13:17:27] indeed [13:18:30] RBE or RBOSE need resources [13:18:32] there is open film/animation/cinematic projects out there, open architecture networks, socio-economic lectures and all that. [13:19:44] i'd say TED haas alot to offer when it coems to that.. Ken Robinson, Shay Kirby, Howard Reignhold, Dan Pink and so on. [13:19:49] maybe with international relations i can convince a samll island nation state to become RBE [13:19:51] :p [13:19:59] iceland? [13:20:05] they're on the right track =) [13:20:40] `not its too cold and it could explode :p [13:20:41] <|UFO|> thyextendedself11: Error: "not" is not a valid command. [13:20:43] i thought about it [13:21:24] ive seen ken [13:21:28] but as i said earlier today, centralized transition communitys are BS TVP notions. Change haoppens all the time, all over the planet. There are some communities worth mentioning thou, like Aurville and Open Source Ecology [13:23:18] all the world is taken [13:23:28] thyextendedself11: one of mymain issues with TZM/TVP is that they seems to waiut for some magical point in time when the transition is ment to begin. So silly i don't know ehere to begin. [13:23:39] haha [13:23:53] well, if you can afford food today, you can buy acres of land in many parts of the world. [13:25:48] and there are plenty of eco-villages etc that would welcome almost anyone. [13:27:14] i thought about makin a new UN [13:27:15] .p [13:27:38] have u heard about: Independent diplomat? [13:27:49] Personally i'd love to start a new, more pogressive habitath community, and we have some far reaching planneing there (as to organisation/deployment) but i can't leave an unsustainable house after me, it feels just wrong, so i'm making myself self-sustainable and off-grid as for now. [13:28:02] not really. tell us [13:28:15] theres a ted talk as well [13:28:34] sounds like a political version of free Root DNS ^^ [13:28:43] mkay, hit us with links! [13:29:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2J6YOiLNr4 [13:29:05] You4Tube 2[Title] Carne Ross: An independent diplomat 2[Category] Nonprofit 2[Duration] 0:24:48 2[Views] 13644 2[Rating] 4.28 2[Uploaded] 2010-09-09 2[Description] http://www.ted.com After 15 years in the British diplomatic corps, Carne Ross became a "freelance diplomat," running a bold nonprofit that gives small, developing and yet-unrecognized nations a voice in international relations. At the BIF-5 conference, he calls fo [13:29:14] we don't engage much in making non-backuped claims here =P [13:29:17] http://www.independentdiplomat.org/ [13:29:18] URL Title: Independent Diplomat: HOME (at www.independentdiplomat.org) [13:29:30] cool, thanx! [13:31:19] u should ass this other to the website: [13:31:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk60sYrU2RU&feature=channel [13:31:40] You4Tube 2[Title] Sugata Mitra's new experiments in self-teaching 2[Category] Tech 2[Duration] 0:17:26 2[Views] 69851 2[Rating] 4.97 2[Uploaded] 2010-09-07 2[Description] http://www.ted.com Indian education scientist Sugata Mitra tackles one of the greatest problems of education -- the best teachers and schools don't exist where they're needed most. In a series of real-life experiments from New Delhi to South Africa to Italy [13:31:58] *** Quits: Tuohimetsa (Mouho1@RBOSE-acec1f1c.yok.fi) (Client closed the connection) [13:32:54] thyextendedself11: yeah, he's cool, seen those =) [13:33:16] perhaps it'ws added somwhere in our wiki on education... (?) [13:34:35] http://mondediplo.com/2005/09/05securitycouncil [13:34:36] URL Title: The alternative UN - Le Monde diplomatique - English edition (at mondediplo.com) [13:34:42] oh? 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[17:57:35] (did you do anything fun today?_ [17:57:37] ) [17:57:58] hi folks :D [17:58:15] I'm not saying hi to you because I already said hey to everybody [17:58:26] what's with all the peer pressure to conform I'll strangle you [17:58:30] !%@#@%$# [17:58:48] sorry the JREF forum has me riled up [17:59:36] JREF? [18:00:11] http://www.sott.net/articles/show/219553-24-Signs-That-All-Of-America-Is-Becoming-Just-Like-Detroit-A-Rotting-Post-Industrial-Post-Apocalyptic-Wasteland [18:00:13] Viper's URL: http://xrl.us/bibcpt [18:00:13] URL Title: 24 Signs That All Of America Is Becoming Just Like Detroit - A Rotting, Post-Industrial, Post-Apocalyptic Wasteland -- Grand Theft Economics -- Sott.net (at www.sott.net) [18:00:13] Jame Rani Education Foundation [18:00:31] Grits: i've mainly been following the current cyber warfare. [18:01:01] I was discussing things in that forum, in a perfectly reasonable tone, without insulting anyone, while being insulted and libeled with speculation from half a dozen other users [18:01:03] and I was banned [18:01:04] Grits: mkay, what about it then` [18:01:06] makes perfect sense [18:01:38] oh, another TZM forum then. =( [18:01:43] I lost track of the number of times people called me an idiot or a liar or speculated about personal details of my life [18:01:46] fuck forums, forums suck [18:02:06] right after the moderators started "warning" me somebody put a post in a thread I was using [18:02:16] "warning: may be run like every other forum you've been in. [18:02:18] " [18:03:18] one of them sent me a warning saying I was being uncivil for telling people flatly their ideas were wrong, meanwhile several other people in the same thread I posted were calling me an idiot and a liar, non-stop [18:03:31] literally non-stop, that's all they ever said, and they said it in response to every one of my posts [18:03:47] I could be exaggerating but not by much [18:04:35] forums sucks [18:04:40] :) [18:05:34] *** Joins: jgege (jgege@RBOSE-222ef051.pool.hdsnet.hu) [18:05:45] it's not the forums that suck it's the people put in charge of them, foolish dickweeds are far too common to make putting people in charge of things a good idea [18:05:56] I'd rather be wiped out by terminators than let these fucking idiots run things [18:06:08] in fact they're the reason the terminators would start wiping us out in the first plcae [18:06:10] place [18:06:16] I'd be on the terminators' side, I'd be good [18:06:34] WORD [18:06:35] hell give me some of those cybernetics and a time travel machine [18:06:35] haha [18:06:38] I'll fucking fix everything [18:06:40] good point xD [18:07:29] I'll go back to the guy who invented money, rip his head off, shit down his neck, then invent television so I can tell everyone why I did it [18:07:56] it's too bad the world doesn't work that way [18:08:18] cop hassles you, slit his throat, defense in court: he was asking for it [18:08:21] case dismissed [18:08:24] #19 In a desperate attempt to save cash, the city of Colorado Springs turned off a third of its streetlights and put its police helicopters up for auction. [18:08:34] hahaha [18:08:36] LOL [18:08:41] how much did the helicopter sell for? [18:08:50] I want one [18:09:04] http://xrl.us/bibcpt here all list LOL [18:09:06] URL Title: 24 Signs That All Of America Is Becoming Just Like Detroit - A Rotting, Post-Industrial, Post-Apocalyptic Wasteland -- Grand Theft Economics -- Sott.net (at xrl.us) [18:09:08] I'll strip it and use the parts building my house [18:09:53] #23 Things have gotten so bad in Stockton, California that the police union put up a billboard with the following message: "Welcome to the 2nd most dangerous city in California. Stop laying off cops." [18:10:38] lol [18:19:40] that's so awesome so many places are laying off police [18:19:50] less police = less crime [18:20:23] *** Joins: jgege|2 (jgege@RBOSE-222ef051.pool.hdsnet.hu) [18:20:26] maybe the police will go back to solving murder mysteries in haunted houses [18:20:31] oh wait that's just in the movies [18:20:40] haha [18:21:06] isn't that what happens when a cop gets laid off, he suddenly starts getting into all sorts of implausible adventures [18:21:36] so when they police arrive on scene they can be like "what are you doing here, MacMurphy, did you get bored being a fired cop" [18:22:39] I think the Hollywood gestalt mind will push a lot of them along those lines [18:22:46] they'll get jobs as mall security guards [18:22:47] bodyguards [18:22:54] private security for office buildings [18:22:56] and so on [18:23:01] hehe [18:23:01] and they'll still pretend they're cops [18:23:12] it's basically copifying the work force, laying all these pricks off [18:23:29] they're not just going to forget they can pull guns on people and dogpile them and shit [18:23:31] *** Quits: jgege (jgege@RBOSE-222ef051.pool.hdsnet.hu) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [18:24:16] and who's going to have an easier time finding a job than a "laid off cop" in hard economic times [18:24:26] oh you want a job at the bank [18:24:28] what was your last job [18:24:35] oh I see, sign here [18:24:59] you want to manage the grocery store, what was your last job [18:25:02] sign here [18:25:25] they're like the fucking mafia [18:25:35] they have pull even when they're not trying [18:25:45] because people respect/fear them [18:26:01] they fear the big ones and respect the little ones [18:28:10] *** Quits: jgege|2 (jgege@RBOSE-222ef051.pool.hdsnet.hu) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [18:39:10] *** Quits: Baradosa (Baradosa@RBOSE-01ca9669.pool.invitel.hu) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [18:41:48] *** Joins: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9f8d8d9b.catv.broadband.hu) [18:43:19] *** Joins: Julius (Julius@RBOSE-6d36528f.pool.telekom.hu) [18:50:37] *** Joins: Diago_ (Diago@B38B54.890583.B8F188.8B581C) [18:51:31] http://asset.soup.io/asset/1324/3493_fb6f.jpeg - SCIENCE VS RELIGION [18:52:37] *** Quits: Diago (Diago@B38B54.890583.F54C2A.61301B) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [18:54:09] "Many of the police in Arizona that patrol communities near the border with Mexico say that they are "outmanned" and "outgunned" and now live in fear of being taken out by drug cartel assassins." [18:54:11] hahaha [18:55:23] *** Joins: enive (qwebirc@A901ED.77CDD6.3706B0.DDC0DF) [18:55:28] mhahaha [18:55:34] WTF http://www.sott.net/articles/show/219551-California-Man-71-Gets-21-Years-For-Wheelchair-Bank-Robbery [18:55:36] URL Title: California: Man, 71, Gets 21 Years For Wheelchair Bank Robbery -- U.S. News -- Sott.net (at www.sott.net) [18:59:11] *** Quits: Billll (Billll@RBOSE-5b82841e.res.rr.com) (Client closed the connection) [19:00:43] *** Joins: Billll (Billll@AA8423.DBA2C9.917164.83D184) [19:51:43] that guy's got balls [19:57:41] *** Joins: warpi (warpi@RBOSE-10685e91.cust.telenor.se) [19:58:31] *** Quits: Cyclo (Cyclo@C5AB1F.517811.C1AA74.06E43B) (Quit: Leaving) [19:58:51] *** Quits: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9f8d8d9b.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [20:20:09] *** Quits: warpi (warpi@RBOSE-10685e91.cust.telenor.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [20:34:44] *** Joins: diogenez (Administrator@RBOSE-37e98d3b.ph.cox.net) [20:35:59] *** Joins: warpi (warpi@RBOSE-7b56f525.mobileonline.telia.com) [20:41:18] *** Joins: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-5aa36246.biz.rr.com) [21:16:49] *** Parts: diogenez (Administrator@RBOSE-37e98d3b.ph.cox.net) [21:23:37] I think those guns that use CO2 propellant were designed to shoot ice bullets [21:23:45] maybe ice darts [21:30:24] *** Quits: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@RBOSE-05844981.cust.bredband2.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [21:43:14] *** Joins: Baradosa (Baradosa@RBOSE-01ca9669.pool.invitel.hu) [21:43:58] estét [21:51:51] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Connection closed) [21:51:53] *** Quits: God (God@NetAdmin.RBOSE) (Client closed the connection) [21:51:55] *** Quits: Viper (Viper@NetAdmin.RBOSE) (Client closed the connection) [21:51:56] -|UFO|- Out`Of`Control has quit FREENODE (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [21:51:59] *** Quits: |UFO| (UFO@Unidentified.Flying.Object) (pms.rbose.org viper.rbose.org) [21:51:59] *** Quits: kalken (default@RBOSE-fddf66be.bredband.comhem.se) (pms.rbose.org viper.rbose.org) [21:51:59] *** Quits: Grits (Hominy@RBOSE-512d31d6.shawneelink.net) (pms.rbose.org viper.rbose.org) [21:52:01] *** Joins: kalken (default@RBOSE-1c8c1828.bredband.comhem.se) [21:52:56] *** Joins: Grits (Hominy@RBOSE-d6e9fa8f.shawneelink.net) [21:53:40] *** Quits: warpi (warpi@RBOSE-7b56f525.mobileonline.telia.com) (Connection closed) [21:56:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaJvoXlcCT0 [21:56:39] You4Tube 2[Title] Patriot Act for Internet ahead? 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:04:50 2[Views] 12889 2[Rating] 4.74 2[Uploaded] 2010-12-08 2[Description] As a result of WikiLeaks, the Obama Administration may introduce a new bill that would allow government officials the ability to spy on Americans through the internet. 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