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[02:06:52] that's more like it! ^^ [02:06:55] yt fakes the views ^^ [02:23:49] DanBull: by the way, you can join other channels by typing "/join #news" for example. [02:23:55] you might like that one btw. [02:24:17] we have bots posting news from lots of interesting sources. [02:34:25] *** Joins: Carbon (Carbon@RBOSE-27822b2c.wi.charter.com) [02:42:46] *** Quits: Carbon (Carbon@RBOSE-27822b2c.wi.charter.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [02:54:00] *** Joins: Carbon (Carbon@RBOSE-27822b2c.wi.charter.com) [03:09:35] awh well, i'm going to sleep. good night folks! [03:09:59] Peace out [03:29:05] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-f1c1e7fc.bredband.skanova.com) (Quit: Leaving) [03:29:05] -|UFO|- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Quit: Leaving) [04:34:38] *** Quits: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-5aa36246.biz.rr.com) (Quit: Leaving.) 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[08:04:42] hi Noaidi_Cohabitat :) [08:05:02] good morning @ all [08:06:25] hi Noaidi_Cohabitat :) [08:06:26] *** Quits: BranManFloMinux (BranManFloMin@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) (Quit: I Don't Want GlobalBan!) [08:12:15] *** Quits: kman_ (erik@RBOSE-139652e5.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Quit: Ex-Chat) [08:12:47] *** Joins: kman_ (erik@RBOSE-139652e5.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [08:13:30] *** Quits: kman_ (erik@RBOSE-139652e5.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Quit: Ex-Chat) [08:19:54] Pretty kuul you guys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anqKC0i0a7Y&feature=player_embedded [08:19:55] You4Tube 2[Title] Homemade Plastic Extrusion System 2[Category] Tech 2[Duration] 0:03:15 2[Views] 1354 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2010-12-10 2[Description] This is a system I made in a quest to produce growing media from plastic resin (HDPE) for my Aquaponic system. To help support future videos, please rate provide a "thumbs up" rating and subscribe to my channel. Some of the video is poor since I originally didn't plan o [08:20:36] *** Joins: anne (anne@RBOSE-b0f83ff2.adsl.tpnet.pl) [08:22:08] !morning all [08:22:08] ACTION wishes everybody in #RBOSE a wonderful morning and a great start in the day! [08:22:30] !morning anne [08:22:30] anne: :] [08:22:32] ACTION wishes anne a Good Morning :-) (And not only because DNS requested that) [08:25:30] This was also very inspiring:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e2cQQbMMcw&feature=player_embedded#! [08:25:32] You4Tube 2[Title] Aquaponic Greenhouse Fall Update 2[Category] Tech 2[Duration] 0:04:09 2[Views] 2066 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2010-10-01 2[Description] The autumn update for the aquaponic greenhouse. Don't forget to check out the other videos on my channel, along with my blog at http://web4deb.blogspot.com. Thanks! Please subscribe for more great videos! [08:25:49] For those who do hydroponic farming. [08:33:49] :) [08:45:29] *** Quits: Noaidi_Cohabitat (qwebirc@RBOSE-6cff21ac.skomur.pl) (Quit: Page closed) [08:46:39] thanks kman :) [08:57:15] *** Joins: Ades- (andersburlin@DECF35.678AB9.8725C0.319809) [08:57:35] *** Quits: Ades (andersburlin@DECF35.678AB9.8725C0.319809) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [09:10:10] *** Joins: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-4fd3942e.lavasoft.net) [09:16:12] cya guys :) laters [09:16:34] good night :) [09:25:40] *** Quits: anne (anne@RBOSE-b0f83ff2.adsl.tpnet.pl) (Connection closed) [09:27:20] *** Quits: Julius (Julius@psyc.RBOSE) (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) [09:27:21] -|UFO|- Julius-ZM has quit FREENODE (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) [09:31:19] *** Joins: Julius (Julius@RBOSE-cac87866.pool.telekom.hu) [09:31:38] -|UFO|- Julius-ZM has joined on FREENODE [09:31:39] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Julius-ZM [09:36:13] *** Quits: Julius (Julius@psyc.RBOSE) (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) [09:36:14] -|UFO|- Julius-ZM has quit FREENODE (Client Quit) [09:56:48] *** Quits: Billll (Billll@AA8423.DBA2C9.917164.83D184) (Client closed the connection) [09:58:02] *** Joins: Billll (Billll@RBOSE-5b82841e.res.rr.com) [10:38:37] Media jämfört med Internet: http://robertwensman.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/att-ta-pulsen-pa-varlden/ [10:38:39] URL Title: Att ta pulsen pĂĄ världen « IdĂ©maskinen (at robertwensman.wordpress.com) [10:42:02] *** Joins: Billll2 (Billll@RBOSE-5b82841e.res.rr.com) [10:44:53] *** Quits: Billll (Billll@RBOSE-5b82841e.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [10:53:54] thanks erobwen [10:54:01] interesting little read :) [11:02:50] http://robertwensman.wordpress.com/2010/12/11/open-letter-to-peter-joseph-jacque-fresco-and-the-zeitgeistmovement/ [11:02:52] URL Title: Open letter to Peter Joseph, Jacque Fresco and the Zeitgeistmovement « IdĂ©maskinen (at robertwensman.wordpress.com) [11:16:00] ,t sv en uppdrag granskning [11:16:01] duxck: Mission Review [11:16:43] *** Quits: Carbon (Carbon@RBOSE-27822b2c.wi.charter.com) (Quit: Kane fucked something up. 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I believe the weight of current wind turbines (3 blades together) are around 100 tonnes. [13:28:12] this is awesome [13:29:19] But I am just an enthusiastic amateur, and not a real construction engineer :-)... [13:31:50] problem of entanglement maybe? [13:37:18] Yes, it is an issue, but to my suprise it is pretty resistant to entaglement. If it becomes a real issue there are some ways to deal with it. One is to have a semi-elastic ring of glass fibre around the turbine to keep the blades in place [13:37:53] nice that you've thought of it and hope the solution works on larger scale as well then :) [13:38:35] But it is actually pretty cool, that last model I built just starts by itself... It looks like an entangled mess, but when put in wind it erects itself. [13:39:30] Actually, the whole concept has some similarities to this umbrella design: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFzOwq5PldQ [13:39:30] that's beautiful [13:39:30] You4Tube 2[Title] senz° storm umbrella highlights 2[Category] Howto 2[Duration] 0:03:07 2[Views] 196816 2[Rating] 4.80 2[Uploaded] 2008-02-22 2[Description] Check out these highlights of the senz° storm umbrella. This thing has really been put to the test with a series of stunts and experiments. [13:40:56] It is a rather fragile umbrella, that erects itself in the wind because of aerodynamics and because of this remains stable. The blades of the kite turbine works just like that. [13:41:06] 100 km/h [13:41:09] 120 :D [13:41:13] holy fudge [13:41:17] Yes, pretty cool :-)... [13:41:50] I was actually thinking of that, why don't they just use some genetic algorithms and design a new umbrella [13:41:55] but here it is I guess ^ [13:42:01] Yes :-) [13:59:05] *** Quits: kman (erik@RBOSE-139652e5.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [14:12:33] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-f1c1e7fc.bredband.skanova.com) [14:12:47] -|UFO|- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [14:12:48] -|UFO|- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Changing host) [14:12:49] -|UFO|- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [14:12:50] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Calyp [14:13:44] aye! [14:13:50] ahoy matey [14:14:02] yarrr! 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[17:00:38] *** Quits: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-b3f555db.pool.t-online.hu) (Quit: Leaving) [17:00:51] FAT64: DNS isn't making music, he is inventing sound [17:01:15] :)) [17:01:30] lol [17:01:39] !hug all [17:01:40] ACTION expands her arms and hugs the whole #RBOSE :D [17:01:45] her [17:02:43] *** Guest138 is now known as DeLrge [17:04:35] *** Joins: Diago_ (Diago@B38B54.890583.6F2384.CA9867) [17:06:07] http://www.todaysthv.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=133339Tue [17:06:22] *** Quits: Diago (Diago@B38B54.890583.338049.02B7D1) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [17:13:19] *** Joins: Baradosa (Baradosa@RBOSE-60c022fc.pool.invitel.hu) [17:20:10] *** Joins: erobwen (qwebirc@RBOSE-dd6e8cb1.se.alltele.net) [17:43:31] http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/dec/14/chrome-os-richard-stallman-warning [17:43:32] URL Title: Google's ChromeOS means losing control of data, warns GNU founder Richard Stallman | Technology | guardian.co.uk (at www.guardian.co.uk) [17:50:11] *** Joins: csitrang (qwebirc@RBOSE-ffcfe5a7.catv.broadband.hu) [17:55:19] *** Quits: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-4fd3942e.lavasoft.net) (Quit: Leaving) [18:00:13] *** Quits: faresz (qwebirc@RBOSE-22264bfc.catv.broadband.hu) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [18:00:40] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-277a8c5e.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [18:01:04] *** Joins: raresz (qwebirc@RBOSE-22264bfc.catv.broadband.hu) [18:01:25] *** Joins: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) [18:01:45] *** Quits: DNS777 (DNS777@NetAdmin.RBOSE) (Connection closed) [18:03:08] *** Joins: Techpriest (qwebirc@RBOSE-de4a5bba.nationalcablenetworks.ru) [18:03:28] *** Phantom is now known as Viper [18:03:37] Hi Techpriest :) [18:03:41] hi [18:04:15] *** Quits: raresz (qwebirc@RBOSE-22264bfc.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [18:04:24] So my point - we will need to collect money if we are willing to moving forward. It is up to you not to support that projects... [18:04:31] *** Joins: faresz (qwebirc@RBOSE-22264bfc.catv.broadband.hu) [18:04:35] true [18:04:49] I dont think collecting $ will help people [18:05:20] Why not use what we have right now in place of that? [18:05:26] For examlple in Russia we have one settlement projevct with Noospheric Movement. Home will cost about 10 000 USD. But solar panels, hidroponics, wind - it is additional. We will obtain them though the NPO'S [18:06:12] So thet is the reaon for me and my teammates - why we sould collect money, because noone will sell to us solar panel free of charge unfoturnatelly [18:06:25] Why not make them? [18:06:43] Buy materials and build them [18:06:49] Solar panes - for manifacturing you need quite expencive equipment [18:07:03] true [18:07:17] It is not so easy to create it... Wind station and hydropon may be. But any way it will cost you money [18:07:42] For example you don't have money, bot donator will have and he will donate for that porject [18:07:49] *** Quits: erobwen (qwebirc@RBOSE-dd6e8cb1.se.alltele.net) (Quit: Page closed) [18:07:49] Rather, collecting knowledge and skills to take advantage of resources and share with others [18:08:13] That is why NPO'S is needed - question - is the quiestion of trust. You must know personally the people whom you give the money [18:08:47] I am not sure if donating money will change anything [18:08:59] Money is always stink [18:09:20] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-277a8c5e.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [18:09:22] Look at Africa Europe donate huge ammount of $ But Africa get only more poor [18:09:22] I think it could change. For now we could operate only with instruments that propose current system [18:09:43] And money is the main. But we need to do it tax free, and use tthem for useful projects [18:10:04] Why not make projects then look if you need Money [18:10:10] it's silly to choose the money if we choose not to choose them [18:10:24] Africas project is made to support World companies to supply it's equipment. It is stupid projects they will not help anyone [18:11:22] But transition itself couldn't be made without tranisition towns network. And we couldn't build them free of charge. They will require materials, equiopment [18:11:41] Most projects are focused on Donations. Then other stuff [18:11:44] *choise not to choose them [18:12:31] This way you depend on $ [18:12:40] Ok how you can for example purchase microscope, thet will need for medical center in that settlement. I don't think somebody will present such expencive equipment. The same is with solar panel [18:13:34] *** Quits: anne (anne@RBOSE-a30a9cca.adsl.tpnet.pl) (Connection closed) [18:13:48] Not on;y for money, we will do as much job as possible withou $ but in some cases we couldn't avoid it. And unfoturnatelly we need much for good transition settlement to make it fully energy and food independed [18:13:51] But there is no City so you dont need it at all [18:14:43] or settlement [18:15:07] But we going to build it... and we will do it for now without RBEF. The noospheric movement create the own NPO'S for the purpose of creation that settlement [18:15:29] One can purchase a microscope and let the other people use it on terms that no money is made out of it (no advantage of other people is taken). Yet another one can choose to freely offer other stuff. [18:15:51] hi lukas :) [18:15:56] hi Viper :) [18:16:16] hi GANGSTERS [18:16:22] Yes if can be done if you will convince that guy to give microscope to us. And we also trying to implement that approach. But not always that free of charge donation approach can be done [18:16:27] yo FAT64 :P [18:16:30] we need to build things based on green power Techpriest [18:16:36] instead of fossile fuel! :) [18:16:56] that way we can make better use of materials through friendlier processes, but we kind of have to reboot the entire system of manufacturing [18:17:01] just sayin' [18:17:44] Yep I know.. but we need to act localy. I don't believe actually that whole humanity will accept that ideas that we carrying [18:18:05] Those settlements will be ilands of progress in the osean of Anarhy [18:18:09] yeah, outcast groups will start to emerge, building offcity societies [18:18:14] mm :) [18:18:15] nicely put [18:18:41] And that is the path to salvation, at least for those who see that Collapse is coming [18:18:52] the big crunch [18:19:33] http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/dec/14/wikileaks-julian-assange-court-appeal-live-updates [18:19:34] URL Title: Julian Assange granted bail: live updates | News | guardian.co.uk (at www.guardian.co.uk) [18:19:35] Techpriest, the trick could be that this guy doesn't need to give you anything. He or she just let you use it as long you go with values of the community, that is any product you made out of it you allow people to: use it, study it, modify and redistribute freely. [18:19:41] Bail is on ÂŁ200.000 [18:20:21] Why outcast, as soon as monetary system will remain we will provide some services and activity, we will try to create medical center, educational facility, scientific lab. That is not oucast approach, that is more reasonable that stayining in the cities during Collapse [18:20:46] no longer being outcast [18:20:55] *** Quits: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-98485314.mweb.co.za) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [18:20:57] but right now, people look at us and go "bloody lunatics!" [18:21:06] "stay with mainstream society, everything is OK" [18:21:08] *** Joins: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-7706ad33.mweb.co.za) [18:21:08] :| [18:21:19] *** Quits: csitrang (qwebirc@RBOSE-ffcfe5a7.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [18:21:56] You know we have convince even local autorities, that will help us with creation of that settlement. They actually think that we creating medical center)))) [18:22:13] In fact it is so, but we will make transition town [18:22:14] not sure what you are up to, medical centers? [18:22:17] :-) [18:22:50] I can provide you of course with detailed plan and cost calculation, but it is on Russian [18:22:57] :( [18:23:16] my russian vocabulary consists of bud zdorov and da [18:23:55] However Noospheric Movement will be pleased if the same project will be launched worldwide. They are very close with ideas to TZM, but they are little bit wiser [18:25:09] So we can provide technical datas to any of you... you can do the same. If you can make it withou $ but I am not sure cate one can create solar panel himself. Like Tony Stark in Afganistan Cave)))) [18:25:32] =) [18:26:10] It will cost some $ of course all of us trying to avoid it, but that is why RBEF introduce their NPO'S method [18:26:20] That is why it is needed [18:26:26] *** Joins: jgege (jgege@RBOSE-222ef051.pool.hdsnet.hu) [18:26:35] *** Joins: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-51b32080.bredband.comhem.se) [18:26:44] NPO. [18:26:57] Hi Absolom [18:27:06] *Absalom [18:27:14] Yep NPO, so i suggest you to reconsider your position regarding to RBEF [18:27:31] not sure what NPO is. [18:27:43] They are not so bad, they propose really good approach to escape from monetary system [18:27:50] Not Profit Organisation [18:27:51] RBEF is coul [18:28:12] Sure, Techpriest. It may work for you, but not for others :) [18:28:18] for me RBEF EOS TZM TVP look all same [18:28:40] You can donate to NPO without TAXES and NPO willaccumulate money for research activity, purchasing of equipment, information movie;'s creation [18:29:00] You can donate $ to scientology too LOL no taxes [18:29:19] Yes they are look the same. Becuase they moving to the same goal. Some of them are more rigid like TZM [18:29:33] TZM will ban you if you will speack of Autonomic Settlement [18:29:51] tzm is nothing. Just buch of Politicians talking crap [18:29:56] *bunch [18:30:07] Becuase they focus only on informational spreading the word, and they avoiding to participate in different projects [18:30:16] RBEF is kinda .. hard to grasp [18:30:22] they have weird website, you have to login to see stuff. [18:30:26] They consider you as the treat if you speac abot transition stllements [18:30:38] I don't like that ;b but I guess they are working on good things - maybe [18:30:55] They told - first we need to recieve critical mass, that we will tell you what to do. I prefer to act right now [18:30:55] Guess hehe FAT64 :D [18:31:18] they're not bothering me Viper xD :D [18:31:19] that's swell [18:32:01] Yep I was confuse in RBEF web from the very beggining and now it is to heavy with information. But you can use their Education chart. It has a lot of useful movies [18:33:36] My vision that we need to create transitions town today, before it is not too late. I don't see that humanity will change. They will refuse to change. So the sttlement's approach is the only path to salvation [18:33:45] *** Quits: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-7706ad33.mweb.co.za) (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [18:35:19] It is up to you to like or dislike TZM TVP RBEF.... but you need to do about your future. Try to establish tranisition settlements, unite with reasinable people, Create your own NPO, if you don't trust people to operate with donations [18:35:48] there is no Future in tzm tvp or rbef [18:36:05] * Viper dont see it [18:36:24] Who knows... I was banned in TZM, but i have good points with RBEF. They seem to be mnore reasonable [18:36:42] <-- Banned from TZM too lol [18:37:42] You know RBEF is just a tool, an instrument - how to escape from monetary system,. Consider them like that. And implement on your own country, with your own NPO [18:37:50] =) [18:38:00] *** Joins: ciacon (quassel@RBOSE-5642211e.unitymediagroup.de) [18:38:20] *** Quits: ciacon_ (quassel@RBOSE-5642211e.unitymediagroup.de) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [18:39:06] I try to implement RBEF ideas and methods within Noospheric Movement's NPO. And expand RBE ideas to all other reasonable movements that exist in Russia [18:40:08] What do you think about Ubmrella project? [18:41:09] its dead [18:41:20] shit@ why? [18:41:51] *** Joins: threadbare (qwebirc@RBOSE-c65dd087.c-220.tvnetwork.hu) [18:42:09] *** Quits: threadbare (qwebirc@RBOSE-c65dd087.c-220.tvnetwork.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [18:43:18] umm [18:43:40] Oh, I was thinking its a factory to produce rain shields? I guess we will not see then new models in next season :| [18:43:53] lol lukas [18:44:12] Yep... so unification was failed! [18:44:32] Is a pitty [18:44:38] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-4b403ac9.student.uu.se) [18:44:57] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@A96332.EE04F8.99FF95.227043) [18:45:03] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@A96332.EE04F8.99FF95.227043) (Client closed the connection) [18:45:47] Techpriest, every NP0 exists as long it has money on the banking account. And it has operational costs specified by legal terms. Therefore it must keep making money to exist, and counteract these costs. Question: why to have operational costs? [18:45:59] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@A96332.EE04F8.99FF95.227043) [18:46:57] NPO that we now creating is lice cooperative, It willesist as long as the settlement exist,. NPO is only needed to recieve banking account and to accept donations [18:47:44] Why you need donations? Have you tried build something first and see how much you need? [18:47:57] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-b3f555db.pool.t-online.hu) [18:48:02] As soos as money will be cancelled, that NPO will simply lost banking acoount. It will still rulled by the same people who establish it [18:48:49] We caculate it pretty presise. And i can assure you we will not be able to obtain all equipment without payment [18:49:29] Then you actually assumed without trying that you need money approach like exactly everyone else? [18:49:49] *** Joins: Julius (Julius@RBOSE-9d9043ac.pool.telekom.hu) [18:50:05] -|UFO|- Julius-ZM has joined on FREENODE [18:50:06] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Julius-ZM [18:50:26] If it can be done, we will do it with help of oncology charity foundations for example. Or use Russian Academy of Science equipment purchasement in our sttlement,. We will call it remote lab and we will try to equip it with some equiopment such as miscroscopes, eceltron miscosopes and other things [18:50:44] We will try use use as less money as possible, but we coudn't avoid it [18:50:47] *** Joins: Diago (Diago@B38B54.890583.F29E48.9D7DCD) [18:52:03] Everything that can be made for free will be made. But some $ will be needed any way. [18:52:18] Sure, you assumed you need to redistribute other's people wealth instead of coping it. For what kind of wealth you have been looking beside money? [18:52:38] *** Quits: Diago_ (Diago@B38B54.890583.6F2384.CA9867) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [18:52:47] webroot is a virus [18:53:10] Microscopes, electon miscroscopes, controlling measurement mashines. May be some cars and so on... We will try to obtain them without money [18:53:30] *** Joins: JsonBot (jsonbot@RBOSE-9d9043ac.pool.telekom.hu) [18:53:49] *** Parts: JsonBot (jsonbot@RBOSE-9d9043ac.pool.telekom.hu) [18:54:14] copying to my media script :D [18:54:23] With some support from other organisations and peoples. But sometimes will will need to use banking account of NPO to obtain solar panels, wind stations, hydropon farms [18:54:25] wrong channel lol [18:54:27] *** Joins: Cyclo (Cyclo@C5AB1F.517811.C1AA74.06E43B) [18:54:45] Ok, then why you need money? Do you need to pay each other some virtual points to be able to do stuff for each other and without these virtual points you have a social drama? [18:55:28] Building houses... you know a lot of thigs could not be made without $ unfoturnatelly. But i can assure you will will use those $ from the banking account for the Greater Good! [18:56:40] Techpriest Obama said that too [18:56:59] If we will establish our settlement before the Collapse, that money will not be needed anymore, because they will not be in operational anymore... But as soon as we still live in the Monetary Systems, we could use only instruments that it propose to us [18:57:30] But i mean it... For the Greater Good, and Obama say another lie. That is the difference [18:58:09] hehe [18:58:32] If you can not trust people... you will not achive transformation of the society. I can trust founders of NPO. I am actually on of them)))) [18:58:48] And i will be them first and may be on of the main donators [18:59:10] I guess you believe in virtual points deeply. The matter which exists on this planet has been here before money and even before our specie came to existence. So why i hear about believe in virtual points based collapse, i wonder what physically changes? [18:59:56] change* [19:00:00] What will change after collapse? You will not be able fo recive food, energy, water if you not producing them yourself [19:00:16] That is why transition settlement aproach was developed [19:01:10] Of course you can join anarchy gangs and tribes and collect food and water as the member of that gang. But that is not my way [19:01:12] http://networks.org/?src=bbc:uk-11989216 [19:01:43] "if you not producing them yourself" to how many people you want distribute technologies helping with that then? they should all choose "settlement aproach" ? [19:02:51] Yep... or they join gang, or simply die. As you can see a lot of options [19:02:54] Why to not work on stuff and put it on Internet? Let the other people choose if they want to use it. And not force others to pay each other, since they all may work together. [19:03:07] May be some of them will have jorney to the different plant)))) [19:04:17] Your approach is also good! But let we assume that collapse will occure. Than the enegry of your house and computer will be cut off. That you approach will not be so reasonable as the autimoic enegy indepened town [19:05:59] http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Synchronous_Hackathon/2010-12-18 [19:06:00] URL Title: Synchronous Hackathon/2010-12-18 - HackerspaceWiki (at hackerspaces.org) [19:06:10] It's up to you to dicide what path to choose. Let me dicide for myself [19:06:50] I agree with you :D [19:06] It's up to you to dicide what path to choose. Let me dicide for myself [19:07:02] But choose wisely! [19:07:07] Every one should make his/her own decision [19:07:32] and not some one telling what to do [19:07:54] Why independent town is better? if we build distributed p2p databsse knowledge, or even let the other people print stuff out of wiki, then they still may access the info, electricity will not disappear from universe, it's one of fundamental phenomenas in nature. It's everywhere! [19:08:57] Ok... you base is good. Please continue to create it. By the way i can give you acess to my corporate portal of Matherila Sciense technologies [19:09:03] Electricity exist before Dinos haha [19:09:55] Yep and you can create it like a hamster. You just need to it something. I prefer to recive energy from solar panels and wind stations))) [19:10:13] try catch lighting LOL [19:10:24] that power beat any solar panel :D [19:10:32] * Viper joking [19:10:37] No no bycicle with energy generation! [19:10:44] power gyms [19:11:38] Could you tell me little more about you base of the whole human knowledge? [19:12:15] Google? dont know [19:12:34] No no: Why independent town is better? if we build distributed p2p databsse knowledge, or even let the other people print stuff out of wiki, then they still may access the info [19:13:00] rbose Wiki Techpriest [19:13:08] and what it contains? [19:13:26] lots of information [19:13:33] and its getting bigger [19:13:34] Viper, not only this one. Any snapshot of database could be distributed p2p. [19:13:45] true lukas [19:14:04] Techpriest http://rbose.org/wiki/Main_Page [19:14:06] URL Title: Main Page - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [19:14:16] you was asking for this? [19:14:56] For example I would like to know how to process alluminium alloy. How could i found it in wiki? [19:15:11] then search in google [19:15:22] or Wikipedia [19:15:24] So what RBOSE WIKI is actually doing? [19:15:25] Techpriest, not yet, but we hope to gather such info as we go. [19:16:20] Ok... i will send you mai login to corporate portal. You can try to copy that info to wiki,. It willcontain info how to process aliminium and how tho control quality and such stuff [19:16:37] FAT64: i saw a generator that you monted on the rear wheel, so you basically used your normal bike as a training-bike and generates several hundred watts of power. They demoed it on some huge event, end let people try it out, and people could turn in theor cellphones for charging at the same time =P [19:16:55] some outdoor festival in the middle of nowhere [19:17:19] Techpriest, you may want to take a look at this to understand what kind of material we want it to be: http://rbose.org/wiki/RBOSE:General_disclaimer [19:17:20] URL Title: RBOSE:General disclaimer - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [19:17:27] Caly: that's what I am talking about [19:17:31] *** Parts: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-b3f555db.pool.t-online.hu) [19:17:34] let's do that if We ever design a gym [19:19:13] yeah, or just put whatever kind of generator that was used in it on a normal gymbike. I might be given sa few of those, and a few treadmills as well perhaps. Those normally have brushless permanent magnet motors that functions exelent as grnerators. [19:19:54] Build parts with RepRap hehe [19:20:00] Some parts [19:20:02] sure. [19:20:31] the coil cores can be made of plastic, if me make an open design generator. [19:20:52] *if we [19:21:02] Caly, FAT64: have you see the text above in the wiki? what do you think guys? [19:21:27] perhaps even plastich bushings and engine housings... [19:21:32] the general disclaimer? [19:21:36] yes [19:21:42] < reading now [19:25:39] *** Quits: Grits (Hominy@RBOSE-512d31d6.shawneelink.net) (Client closed the connection) [19:25:56] *** Joins: Grits (Hominy@RBOSE-512d31d6.shawneelink.net) [19:25:57] i am ok with that, absolutely. I'll give it some thougt with fresh eyes tomorrow thou. [19:26:21] but very nice, i really like the clear message. [19:26:25] Caly, ok :) [19:27:20] yeah i like it too :D [19:27:31] Maybe later we can add more to YES and No :D [19:27:39] Here is the etherpad where we have been working on it: http://openetherpad.com/x6OhK7j8XG [19:27:41] URL Title: EtherPad: x6OhK7j8XG (at openetherpad.com) [19:29:37] I know what's gonna happen [19:29:46] they are gonna bash us because of the big red 5NO's [19:29:52] :B but they are good NO's [19:29:54] :D:D:D [19:30:11] It was my idea of images [19:30:18] So they can BASH ME :D [19:30:23] =D [19:30:26] I send them to God LOL [19:32:50] jk [19:35:15] lukas, i'll make a suggestion for the sentence you thought needed some correction. [19:35:26] Have to get home and get something to eat first. [19:36:49] kman, ok :) [19:40:41] Viper, the buttons are sexy. Lets keep them ^^ [19:44:39] *** Joins: johnr69 (qwebirc@RBOSE-88c1979e.catv.broadband.hu) [19:44:43] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@A96332.EE04F8.99FF95.227043) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [19:48:41] !poke all [19:48:42] ACTION pokes everybody in #RBOSE a bit with some motivation [19:49:54] hi DNS :D [19:50:14] quote get 117 [19:50:16] ,quote get 117 [19:50:17] lukas: Quote #117: "The great moral question of the twenty-first century is this: if all knowing, all culture, all art, all useful information can be costlessly given to everyone at the same price that it is given to anyone; if everyone can have everything, anywhere, all the time, why is it ever moral to exclude anyone? -- Eben Moglen" (added by lukas at 07:07 PM, September 07, 2010) [19:50:26] Techpriest ^ [19:52:17] ;> [19:52:36] ?? ownership [19:52:36] ownership[1]: The system of ownership of ideas: [19:52:38] ownership[2]: http://dotsub.com/view/a29b44f7-bf4b-4928-a4a4-7a1359bceb55 [19:53:52] ,quote get 92 [19:53:52] DNS: Quote #92: "Here, we made this, would you like it? Take some. It's free. ~ Eben Moglen" (added by Kebap at 10:28 PM, August 05, 2010) [19:56:22] Haha.. I think that line was repeated around 20 times a day at Caly last summer. [19:56:43] "Here, i made this smoothie. Would you like it? Take some. Its free." [19:56:59] lol :D [19:57:03] :D [19:57:20] ,quote get 119 [19:57:20] DNS: Quote #119: "So that's what we're about, you understand. Let's be serious about this. This is serious business. We have a world to take back. In order to take it back, we need four things: Free software, free hardware, free culture, and free spectrum. And we are getting them, all. Bit, by bit, by bit. -- Eben Moglen" (added by lukas at 03:23 PM, September 08, 2010) [19:58:34] :D [19:59:06] kman lukas made then Sexy lol [19:59:09] *them [19:59:13] haha [19:59:37] ,quote get 118 [19:59:37] DNS: Quote #118: "Those who control computer programs control who gets everything. We say, computer programs, then, must be made by everybody, for everybody, in the interests of everybody. That's governments for the people, of the people, by the people. -- Eben Moglen" (added by lukas at 03:20 PM, September 08, 2010) [20:02:08] *** Quits: Techpriest (qwebirc@RBOSE-de4a5bba.nationalcablenetworks.ru) (Quit: Page closed) [20:02:58] was too much about freedom for techpriest? :| [20:03:00] jk [20:07:41] http://www.dula.tv/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/chase-logo-google.png [20:07:46] o_O [20:08:38] well its not new LOL [20:09:05] 0_o [20:09:12] hey hacked [20:09:16] !poke hacked [20:09:16] ACTION pokes hacked in #RBOSE a bit with a good behaviour [20:09:57] afternoon DNS [20:10:07] :D [20:13:40] !news .ca assange free [20:13:43] 6,526 Results | Julian Assange Goes Free on Bail (Mashable - ‎2 hours ago‎) @ http://mashable.com/2010/12/14/julian-assange-free-bail/ | Julian Assange: 'His philosophy keeps evolving' (The Guardian - ‎5 hours ago‎) @ http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/dec/14/julian-assange-philosophy-evolving-wikileaks | Julian Assange Granted Bail (Death and Taxes - Dj Pangburn - ‎12 minutes ago‎) @ [20:13:44] http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/40619/julian-assange-granted-bail/ [20:15:05] :|9 [20:16:23] hi hacked :) [20:17:40] hey lukas [20:18:35] so vinces got hacked? :D [20:18:46] a long time ago Viper [20:18:48] lets hack him back :D [20:20:44] * Viper trows RBOSE at Hacked :D [20:21:42] *** Joins: ciacon_ (quassel@RBOSE-5642211e.unitymediagroup.de) [20:22:02] *** Quits: ciacon (quassel@RBOSE-5642211e.unitymediagroup.de) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [20:27:37] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-4b403ac9.student.uu.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [20:31:49] *** Joins: bookia (bookia@RBOSE-41438159.priv.bahnhof.se) [20:31:57] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@A96332.B79E18.E4D3CC.B4AC0C) [20:32:03] hey bookia :D [20:33:03] hej [20:33:09] gick inte sĂĄ bra att regga sig [20:33:13] sorry [20:33:14] english [20:33:15] my bad [20:33:17] wo0t [20:33:18] :D [20:33:19] trying to register [20:33:37] type !help register [20:33:39] but the server doesnt acknowledge "/reg" command [20:33:39] :) [20:33:43] stupid server :D [20:33:44] :o [20:33:48] not the server [20:33:51] its your client [20:34:01] try /msg nickserv register [20:34:13] irssi? [20:34:18] hasnt given me problems before [20:34:25] but sure, i'll try [20:34:44] the server shortcuts cant irssi see somehow [20:35:00] idk worx with other clients well [20:35:11] wroom [20:35:15] i mean command shortcuts [20:35:17] sorry bookia i lef you behind on facebook :/ [20:35:25] :o [20:35:31] !slap duxck [20:35:32] ACTION slaps duxck a bit around #RBOSE with an Eben Moglen lecture [20:35:43] !hug DNS [20:35:44] ACTION hugs DNS for duxck and hopes that DNS enjoys it :) [20:35:48] hehe [20:35:52] Go on, I haven't said the safeword yet [20:35:55] you got the green light [20:36:18] duxck: huh? :S [20:36:25] i'm martin [20:36:36] I deactivated my fb [20:36:41] Hey bookia :D [20:36:42] *** Joins: pax (pax@RBOSE-97a3501c.dip.t-dialin.net) [20:36:44] DNS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTTDOss5jUE [20:36:45] You4Tube 2[Title] The Beatles - Come Together (Omega Remix).mov 2[Category] Music 2[Duration] 0:04:30 2[Views] 148103 2[Rating] 4.80 2[Uploaded] 2010-03-13 2[Description] Dubstep remix of my favorite Beatles tune. http://robotskream.com/omega http://soundcloud.com/omegadubstep [20:37:03] hey Viper :) [20:37:16] duxck: why? [20:37:23] hey all [20:37:45] I clicked a "look what this girl did when justin bieber.." link and got so pissed of that i couldn't keep on going :) [20:38:07] *** Joins: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-5aa36246.biz.rr.com) [20:38:50] duxck: why on earth would you click on anything that is even remotely related to justin bieber :P [20:39:10] I didn't mean to [20:39:24] well, nickserv isnt helping much [20:39:31] I was just clicking around and then BAAAM!!! i was ona a site that i couldn't find the "un-like" button [20:39:34] on [20:39:46] told me to use "REGISTER password email" but that isnt getting accepted at all either [20:40:21] well duxck, everyone is allowed to make a mistake :P [20:40:21] bookia > /msg nickserv help register [20:40:31] pax matrass is waiting for you? :D [20:40:33] haha [20:40:38] Evil one! [20:40:50] !poke pax [20:40:51] ACTION pokes pax in #RBOSE a bit with some creativity [20:40:54] DNS: yes i know, did it, the above is what i got [20:41:07] viper almost ;) hi dns *pokeback* [20:41:09] yes [20:41:10] ah well, i'm in, maybe it doesnt matter [20:41:12] well [20:42:15] example for register > /msg nickserv register my_super_password do_no_mail_me@home.k [20:42:17] my server burned up yesterday :'( [20:42:19] again :( [20:42:21] :( [20:43:09] i had my fixed and polished up irssi thingie on there [20:43:24] so when i logged in everything was done automagically [20:43:30] very nice indeed [20:44:06] but i had to download new irssi to my laptop since the server burned up, and i just do not feel like poking and rewriting the thingie for this irssi [20:44:24] meeh, once was enough [20:44:58] next year i'll get a new server, then i'll poke some more [20:45:02] anyho [20:45:05] anything new? [20:45:37] you can see that in news plage :D [20:45:48] link? [20:45:50] http://rbose.org/wiki/News [20:45:52] URL Title: News - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [20:47:29] ooh, python :D [20:47:33] i'm in :D [20:47:36] :D [20:47:44] to learn that is :P [20:47:48] cool [20:48:00] i had lunch with this german guy [20:48:04] i think end of this week will be next meeting [20:48:14] he goes the same courses as my bf right now [20:48:21] man did he get my blood pressure up :( [20:48:28] pissed me off royally [20:48:58] he studies computer science, exchange student [20:49:19] he did NOT know ANYTHING about programming when he started 3 years ago [20:50:07] which was weird to me, i thought only those who were already fascinated by computers (aka real computer nerds) would choose to study CS [20:50:16] but not him [20:50:35] he claims he was just, kinda, fascinated by the computers and what one is able to achieve with them [20:51:26] not even "oooh, software sounds so interesting" or "ooh i'd really like my hands dirty disassembling and reassembling a computer" [20:51:37] but he was just KINDA fascinated :S [20:51:49] with what exactly, he didnt know [20:51:56] it was all just foggy [20:52:39] so he starts to study CS, and mind you, that program he goes in germany is a killer program, very difficult, shitloads of math and so and so forth [20:52:57] he keeps the pace, passes the exam [20:52:58] *** Quits: Baradosa (Baradosa@RBOSE-60c022fc.pool.invitel.hu) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [20:53:08] and now 3 years later [20:53:39] he tells me that it doesnt matter which or if any, programming languages you know if you want to work as a computer scientist :o [20:54:08] as long as you ARE a computer scientist, as in done that program he is doing, then you are hired [20:54:19] haha [20:54:19] programming language you can learn in 2w [20:54:33] SERIOUSLY [20:54:51] i've been trying to learn to program for longer than he has been studying computer science [20:54:59] i still SUUUUUUUCK [20:55:14] and he says that he can learn a language in 2w [20:55:36] * bookia was not happy to hear that [20:57:05] yeah, i really should learn to be more patient :/ [20:57:36] and not, every time the code does not compile, i just want to scream and become the hulk [20:57:37] yeah [20:57:41] just want to thrash everything around me [20:57:48] lol [20:57:55] sadly true :( [20:58:02] * BranManFloMore is scared. [20:58:19] BranManFloMore: dont worry, only pertains to inanimate objects :P [20:58:25] :) [20:58:29] ,pillow bookia [20:58:29] * rBOTse quickly throws a pillow in the face of bookia [20:58:33] hehe [20:58:33] BranManFloMore: is an inanimate object :( [20:58:42] :( [20:58:44] * Viper hides behind UFO [20:58:44] but yeah, my cat has a special hiding place, only used when i have one of my programming fits [20:59:12] <|UFO|> 08<14duxck@FREENODE08> PPushes out viper from behind UFO... I was here first! [20:59:13] waaaay in the corner under the bed, completely unreachable [20:59:43] lol duxck [20:59:47] takes up a whole brain cell, and he doesnt have many of those (cornish rex) [20:59:52] *** Joins: kman (erik@RBOSE-139652e5.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [21:00:16] who here was a chemist? [21:00:27] s/was/is [21:00:35] bookia I remember you [21:00:51] Billll2: yeah, happy memories i hope :D [21:00:58] indeed [21:01:02] your the science guy right? [21:01:10] almost [21:01:14] science gal [21:01:16] you signed the RBOSE letter as well [21:01:24] to peter joseph merola [21:01:37] yeah, got my tzm account suspended because of it [21:01:49] rly [21:01:51] amazing [21:01:53] yea [21:01:59] how are you doing? [21:02:09] i tried to log in about a week after the letter was made public [21:02:20] my brothers wife is a chemist >_> [21:02:21] but then my account suddenly didnt exist anymore [21:02:41] and i couldnt register again with the same nick either [21:02:49] bookia: yeah, got my tzm account suspended because of it <--- No f-ing way. [21:02:58] seriously [21:03:04] come on, this isnt news [21:03:18] i told you this when it happened, in the old channel [21:03:48] Billll2: yeah, but i think one of the guys here is a chemist, one of the swedish one, cant remember who though [21:04:26] BranManFloMore: not that would want to have anything to do with tzm ever again [21:04:31] so no tears there :) [21:04:51] More like freedom. [21:05:12] Billll2: i'm doing fine, finishing up my final year of uni, should be done in the fall of next year [21:05:26] http://robertwensman.wordpress.com/2010/12/11/open-letter-to-peter-joseph-jacque-fresco-and-the-zeitgeistmovement/ [21:05:27] bachelor in molecular biology, master in bioinformatics [21:05:28] URL Title: Open letter to Peter Joseph, Jacque Fresco and the Zeitgeistmovement « IdĂ©maskinen (at robertwensman.wordpress.com) [21:05:31] perhaps that will itnerest you guys [21:05:35] really good letter [21:06:37] I think I should work on a collection all the open letters to TZM. [21:06:49] of all* [21:06:55] :) [21:07:19] about the scientific model NOT working, i got a link for you, let me just dig it up [21:07:54] posted in swedish daily papers, Dagens nyheter, today [21:08:04] use google translate to get it to english [21:08:05] http://www.dn.se/debatt/kvinnliga-forskare-ratas-i-nya-forskningspolitiken-1.1226488 [21:08:06] URL Title: ”Kvinnliga forskare ratas i nya forskningspolitiken” - DN.se (at www.dn.se) [21:08:14] scary scary reading [21:08:53] http://translate.google.se/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dn.se%2Fdebatt%2Fkvinnliga-forskare-ratas-i-nya-forskningspolitiken-1.1226488&act=url [21:08:54] bookia's URL: http://x0.no/1mbs [21:08:54] URL Title: Google Ă–versätt (at translate.google.se) [21:08:59] en [21:09:08] bookia: i'll read it in a bit [21:09:50] i really hate the current covernment, they are just an enormous incompentent pile of turds [21:10:31] i'm reading the letter in your link duxck [21:13:34] i think fact nr 1 is too simplified [21:14:17] *** Quits: Julius (Julius@psyc.RBOSE) (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) [21:14:18] everything in computer science is restrained by the how much computers can handle [21:14:18] -|UFO|- Julius-ZM has quit FREENODE (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) [21:14:49] so everyone tries to make algorithms that do the job _almost_ as good as running all the parameters [21:15:01] and thats good enough [21:15:13] and everyone is free to make a better algorithm [21:15:33] and i dont see how that would be subjective to the programmer :S [21:15:39] *of the programmer [21:19:01] fact 2: the basis of the tzm idea is to start with mapping the earth before doing anything else, so you'd know what areas posses what resources, if there are possibilites of acquiring geothermal energy in a particular spot, on would know that in advance [21:19:20] sure, the mapping would take resources but that would in the long run be money very well spent [21:20:28] but yeah, you'd still be forced to make educated guesses, which is the main reason why only those who know what they are doing should decide over those matters [21:21:26] *** Joins: Bobi (qwebirc@RBOSE-235f7aeb.adsl.TvNetWork.Hu) [21:21:30] nice bookia [21:21:51] bookia I'm going to medical school now [21:22:04] wanting to go the surgeon route [21:22:09] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-b3f555db.pool.t-online.hu) [21:22:34] what kind? [21:22:34] well orthopedics surgeon [21:23:09] ooooooh, you'll be callie :D [21:23:26] callie stevens is my favourite character in greys anatomy :D [21:23:52] oh boy [21:23:53] lol [21:23:54] how far have you gotten with your studies? [21:24:12] what, you dont like callie? :o [21:24:40] I never watched a episode of grey anatomy lol [21:24:46] greys* [21:25:03] oh, to be honest, you're not missing out on anything :P [21:25:21] its more of a relationship drama, not much medicine at all [21:25:56] o [21:26:02] I watch house though [21:26:07] House rocks. [21:26:45] yeah \o/ [21:27:00] but his diagnosis are soooo far fetched [21:29:02] my bf has even started joking now, every time someone says that he/she is ill, my boyfriend s [21:29:20] says that diagnosis that is thrown out EVERY time [21:29:30] dont remember the name though? [21:29:48] you'd think i'd remember since i've watched every single ep but no :/ [21:31:14] http://rbose.org/wiki/People [21:31:15] URL Title: People - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [21:33:12] *** Quits: Bobi (qwebirc@RBOSE-235f7aeb.adsl.TvNetWork.Hu) (Quit: Page closed) [21:34:00] wow. i'm at the center [21:34:08] i'm honoured :D [21:35:59] =] [21:36:58] http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/12/101214142741.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+sciencedaily+%28ScienceDaily%3A+Latest+Science+News%29 [21:36:59] URL Title: Human umbilical cord blood cells found to enhance survival and maturation of key brain cells (at www.sciencedaily.com) [21:36:59] bookia's URL: http://xrl.us/bibn5z [21:37:01] no shit sherlock [21:37:29] you know that in sweden, it is nearly impossible to get the doctors and midwives to wait before clamping off the umbilical cord after the birth? [21:37:45] as soon as the baby is out they just immediately clamp and cut it off [21:38:21] only way is is to literally kick them away from you, and end up in jail because of it [21:38:32] it insane [21:38:52] they cut it of because "its routine and that is what we do here" [21:39:17] *only way to stop them from clamping and cutting [21:39:30] hm [21:39:32] interesting stuff [21:40:01] althought i've heard that there is ONE hospital in sweden, in gothenburg, that has decided to hold of on the clamping until the blood had stopped pulsating [21:40:19] sahlgrenska? [21:40:31] the result, healthier mother that leave hospital earlier, healthier babies, less after birth bleeding and complications, and so on [21:40:39] they started this 5 years ago [21:40:55] but none of the other hospitals in sweden are interested in adopting this new practice [21:41:04] civilized society my ass :( [21:41:53] FAT64: i think its that one [21:42:17] *** Quits: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) (Quit: Leaving) [21:43:47] looks interesting, will have to check out the code http://www.bitcoin.org/ [21:43:48] URL Title: Bitcoin P2P Virtual Currency | Bitcoin (at www.bitcoin.org) [21:44:13] 0_o [21:45:04] bookia: it's a bit too nasty for society [21:45:13] I mean, you can't even breastfeed your baby in the city [21:45:24] you're suppose to bring premilked breastmilk in a bottle [21:45:30] we have banned nature [21:45:46] yes, unfortunately :( [21:45:54] it's so fucking sad [21:45:57] mmm [21:46:18] but the problem is that many new mothers have no idea how to feed discreatly [21:46:54] is discreetly that important [21:46:56] they just throw the boob out for everyone to see and let the baby suckle and burp and fart and its not nice to listen to if you are beside and try to have a cup of coffee with a cake [21:47:00] the mother has to feed the baby. :) [21:47:12] yeah, maybe they shouldnt do it next to people eating [21:47:35] this new generation of mothers think that the world centers around them and their offspring [21:47:41] some kind of etiquette can still be worked out I think [21:47:44] :D [21:47:44] ok [21:47:48] I wouldnt know. [21:48:23] what is so difficult to throw a shawl over the shoulder, cover up the baby and the boob, give the baby some peace to eat as well as protecting the appetite from everyone around you [21:48:53] some mother do that, you dont even notice that they are breastfeeding, those mums nobody complains about [21:48:58] tell it to the ladies that does this, :D I suggest pamplets and blog posts! [21:49:02] but they seem to be few in numbers :/ [21:49:05] aight [21:49:12] flyers bookia , lots of em [21:49:18] :) [21:49:24] fuck 'em [21:49:42] i'll try to state a good example, if they want to follow they can, if they dont, their loss [21:49:46] :) [21:50:14] :D [21:50:16] yes. [21:51:28] time to watch dr Kaku, world in 2030. [21:51:32] posted by bookia [21:51:49] he goes over the top sometimes [21:51:55] but its fun to hear the ideas [21:52:08] just like ancient aliens series [21:52:20] pure science fiction entertainment :D [21:53:30] ?? news [21:53:30] news[1]: RBOSE-News: http://rbose.org/wiki/News [21:53:32] news[2]: If you would like to see some other interesting news in real-time from different sources (for example about Free Software, Hardware, Culture), then just type: /join #news [21:54:55] <|UFO|> 08<06Out`Of`Control@FREENODE08> ?? news [21:55:14] viper missboty isnt in freenode [21:55:15] ;D [21:55:30] <|UFO|> 08<06Out`Of`Control@FREENODE08> :/ [21:55:34] :| [21:55:36] <|UFO|> 08<06Out`Of`Control@FREENODE08> `fortune [21:55:37] <|UFO|> 13<05|UFO|@FREENODE13> Out`Of`Control: Writing is turning one's worst moments into money. -- J.P. Donleavy [21:55:51] <|UFO|> 08<06Out`Of`Control@FREENODE08> lol [21:56:03] 0_o [22:05:19] hey [22:05:46] <|UFO|> 08<06Out`Of`Control@FREENODE08> Hi [22:10:15] *** Joins: enive (qwebirc@A901ED.77CDD6.3706B0.DDC0DF) [22:11:09] ,quote random [22:11:09] DNS: Quote #59: "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action. ~ George Washington" (added by Kebap at 09:51 PM, August 04, 2010) [22:12:01] ,quote random [22:12:01] DNS: Quote #107: "If you are not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. ~ Malcom X" (added by Kebap at 09:39 PM, August 09, 2010) [22:16:42] bookia: HMM. [22:16:50] it's old technology D: and horrible ideas [22:16:55] OH GOD MAKE IT STOP [22:17:01] "throw the computers away" [22:17:02] :| [22:18:10] http://www.shareable.net/blog/the-open-source-guitar [22:18:12] URL Title: Shareable: The Open Source Guitar (at www.shareable.net) [22:19:37] FAT64: what? :S [22:19:50] *** Joins: Julius (Julius@RBOSE-f819683b.pool.telekom.hu) [22:19:58] http://www.khq.com/Global/story.asp?S=13671200 [22:19:59] URL Title: BREAKTHROUGH: First HIV-Positive Man Cured - KHQ Right Now - News and Weather for Spokane and North Idaho | (at www.khq.com) [22:20:00] haha [22:20:03] the dr thing [22:20:03] -|UFO|- Julius-ZM has joined on FREENODE [22:20:04] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Julius-ZM [22:20:40] Caly: hi :D [22:21:06] FAT64: you've lost me? [22:21:22] which thing? dr house, or callie? [22:22:34] hacked: yeah, i dont really buy that [22:22:53] hiv virus recombines itself within the ordinary body cells [22:23:00] and it stays there [22:23:27] so even if you get a stem cell transplant, you'll still have cells with hiv genome within them [22:23:31] that kaku guy. [22:23:35] I said I was gonna watch dr kaku [22:23:35] :D [22:23:55] i'll believe that news if that guy is still "hiv free" 5-10 years from now [22:24:02] FAT64: yeah right, sorry :( [22:24:11] <3 [22:24:17] told you it was overkill :P [22:24:20] I had to stop look :( [22:24:22] it was horrible [22:24:27] what [22:24:29] reminds me of class in Interaction Design :) [22:24:31] he is adorable :D [22:24:36] yeah in all other clips bookia [22:24:40] but not this one xD [22:24:40] :P [22:24:48] I especially loved the part about 2001 [22:24:52] yeah, kinda have To agree with you there :P [22:25:09] i guess he had to whip up something quick and catchy for that presentation [22:25:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVJAVET6eRE [22:25:10] :D [22:25:10] You4Tube 2[Title] Dr Michio Kaku 3 types of Extraterrestrial Civilizations [PL] 2[Category] Education 2[Duration] 0:07:55 2[Views] 3438 2[Rating] 4.78 2[Uploaded] 2009-09-20 2[Description] ProszÄ™ takĹĽe odwiedzić stronÄ™ http://exopolitics.pl/ [22:26:07] i'll have to put my hearing aids in to watch that :/ [22:26:24] * bookia wishes that EVERYTHING on the internet is subtitled [22:27:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFeDr2EgAMk&feature=player_embedded [22:27:04] You4Tube 2[Title] Nigel Farage: The People are holding you in contempt, Mr Barroso 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:04:53 2[Views] 304 2[Rating] 4.93 2[Uploaded] 2010-12-14 2[Description] http://www.ukipmeps.org â–ş European Parliament, Strasbourg-14 December 2010 â–ş Speaker: Nigel Farage MEP, UKIP, Co-President of the EFD Group in the European Parliament (Europe of Freedom and Democracy) .................................. [22:27:10] nigel farage \o/ [22:27:16] watch that clip [22:27:34] i am amazed that barosso can say what is says, with a straight face [22:27:39] bookia: hi there ! [22:27:43] unbelievable [22:27:44] so nice to see you here! [22:27:49] you too :) [22:27:56] of course i log in when i'm on a deadline [22:28:02] anything to get away ;) [22:28:37] Nigel Farge is the european Ron Paul! =P [22:28:46] haha, okey [22:29:02] there is #RBOSE.SE as you might know. [22:29:24] don't worry, tha vegan fanatic is gone, havn't seen him in a while ^^ [22:29:31] yay :D [22:29:36] good riddance :P [22:29:47] :| why? [22:29:55] FAT64: to what? [22:30:03] * FAT64 is a friendly vegan. [22:30:04] =) [22:30:24] you might be, but that guy was just a nuisance [22:30:25] * pax is anti-cadaver too :D [22:30:28] *** Quits: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@RBOSE-05844981.cust.bredband2.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [22:30:39] i'm a meat eater :D [22:30:48] i like to have my meat for breakfast, lunch and dinner [22:30:57] with some gravy on the side [22:31:10] and no green stuff, i leave the rabbit food for the rabbits [22:31:14] and vegans :P [22:33:34] who is a nuisance O_O [22:34:10] bookia: all science points to the fact that we should all leave the meat industry since it pollutes and destroys the earth at an astonishing rate [22:34:25] and also, why should animals suffer so you can satisfy your tastebuds? =) [22:35:27] well, that is actually not true [22:35:47] so we disagree on that fact and thus cannot agree on anything else [22:35:55] so we leave it at that, please [22:36:17] http://rbose.org/wiki/RBOSE:General_disclaimer [22:36:18] URL Title: RBOSE:General disclaimer - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [22:36:19] i'll eat your share of meat, you eat my share of veggies and we're both happy [22:36:30] i like that! [22:36:54] (but i dont like meat) :D [22:37:22] thats your prerrogative [22:37:33] http://www.wwf.org.uk/filelibrary/pdf/contamination.pdf [22:37:33] ofc :) [22:37:39] i do everything that works for me :) [22:37:42] good pdf to read and keep [22:38:31] i have not had meat since may and i feel great :) [22:38:43] actually much better than before :) [22:39:04] grats kalken [22:39:11] :) [22:39:15] :) [22:39:17] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@A96332.B79E18.E4D3CC.B4AC0C) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [22:39:38] FAT64: i dont want animals to suffer, thats why i want to live in the country where i can raise animals for food, and make sure that they live as optimally, healthy and happy as possible, and i want to slaughter them myself so i can make sure that they do not suffer [22:40:18] but until then i buy organic [22:42:44] *** Quits: johnr69 (qwebirc@RBOSE-88c1979e.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [22:43:01] terms of use is cool because anyone not satisfied with it can take the stuff and do something else :D [22:43:13] so eg no one can complain [22:43:17] :D [22:43:20] Thats the idea ^^ [22:43:27] yes, brilliant [22:43:57] Something not clearly considered by EOS, for example, when they wanted to "merge" our wiki with their material. [22:44:10] did they drop that plan? [22:44:17] to be able to say to folks to do it better or be quiet is a great way to see if someone really have something to add :D [22:44:48] pax, as far i understood it, that was suggested. [22:45:27] dustwolf, are you awake? [22:46:27] the wiki is a project. We might see as many wikis as people want in the end :) [22:46:42] branching off, if its needed [22:47:43] oh man the fucking clowns in the JREF forum got seriously trolled, somebody started a thread about some obscure guy with some obscure band saying they saw mentions of it in so many places wasn't it an odd coincidence [22:48:29] obviously just pimping the guy and the band, and these idiots fell for it, started blathering on about how it was just "confirmation bias" and how he was just noticing it more now that he was paying attention to it [22:49:05] he even mentioned seeing the guy's "largest and greatest work" brought up in a forum thread about headphones [22:49:51] this guy making the posts is probably the obscure guy with the obscure band just putting his name out there, the other times he saw it were probably places he posted about it [22:50:01] fucking idiots [22:51:03] *** Quits: jgege (jgege@RBOSE-222ef051.pool.hdsnet.hu) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [22:56:37] bookia: you don't need meat you know :) [22:56:43] in case you havent consider that possibility as well [23:01:22] i have, been a vegetarian for over 3 years, vegan for maybe a half [23:01:37] ruined my health, i am still recovering [23:02:12] and no, i wasnt lazy, i read up, combined the right veggies to get the optimal nutrition [23:02:38] a lack of proteins [23:02:38] but it isnt for me [23:02:42] did doctors tell you what the problem was? [23:02:45] if they knew [23:02:53] or health dietists people [23:03:10] well, i cut the carbs and started eating meat and i started feeling better again [23:03:11] get some pills? :D [23:03:14] so i am sticking to it [23:03:27] only pills i take now is D-vitamin, thats it [23:03:37] and no C? [23:03:53] i drink alot o fresh lemonade instead, much tastier [23:04:03] you can get D for free [23:04:10] not enough [23:04:14] GO outside when sun is up lol [23:04:15] you didnt answer me bookia x) [23:04:39] they didnt find anything wrong [23:04:57] my overall health just declined, nothing specific i could put my finger on [23:05:40] but can we please leave out the missionary work [23:05:44] so sad that you didnt find out [23:05:52] this works great for me and veganism works great for you [23:06:03] each to his own [23:06:20] *** Quits: enive (qwebirc@A901ED.77CDD6.3706B0.DDC0DF) (Quit: Page closed) [23:06:27] I don't really get "each to his own" when individuals are suffering :( but yeah, in your case it's impossible/hard. [23:06:52] individuals are suffering? [23:08:21] animals right [23:09:10] well i dont like the industrial breeding of animals and animal farms [23:09:23] *** Quits: Diago (Diago@B38B54.890583.F29E48.9D7DCD) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [23:09:28] so i buy organic meat where animals live naturally [23:10:13] but i will not sacrifice my health for some idealistic idea that human have no right to kill animals [23:10:14] that's better yeah :) and I assumed you did since you talked about wanting to breed them yourself and so on [23:10:23] bookia: no I understand that. [23:10:33] you wouldnt kill yourself, that would be a bad set of genes [23:10:49] i do as i can, as naturally as i can, to stay as healthy as i can [23:10:56] nothing more [23:11:03] *as much as i can [23:11:14] can you live off products of animals, that is, lacto-ovo-vegetarian? [23:11:20] or do you feel bad if you dont eat meat. [23:11:31] (just curious) [23:11:33] i feel bad if i dont eat meat [23:12:07] if you ate like tonne of proteinrich plantbased food, maybe it would work? :) [23:12:14] for thought-experiment, what's magical about meat you think [23:12:34] also, i am a type 2 diabetic (thanks to the veggie period that fucked up my body) and it is easier to keep the carbs down if most of the food is based on saturated animal fats and meat [23:12:39] B12 and D-vitamins should easily be accesible through vegetarian food [23:12:41] oh [23:12:52] don't know much about that [23:13:05] check out LCHF, its big in sweden [23:13:12] dont know about the rest of the world [23:13:15] more about the problems of type 2 diabetics [23:13:18] its growing in norway i know [23:13:20] mm [23:14:14] my food is meat, saturated animal fat such as butter and lard, coconut oil and some broccoli and spinach [23:14:17] umm [23:14:18] occasional onion [23:14:33] i get buy nicely on that [23:14:55] but it will take some years to repair all the damage the veggie period has done to my body [23:15:07] o_0 [23:15:30] cheers, gotta go out and enjoy winter :) [23:15:33] bookia: <3 [23:15:36] i do cheat with a tomato sometimes, but they dont taste as much anymore as they did when i was a child [23:15:43] from my grandmother garden [23:15:56] ok [23:15:57] bye [23:17:44] If the nutrients are in the right amount, the origin of them should not matter. Speaking in terms of personal wellbeing that is. So saying that a "veggie period" damaged your body, must really have been a case of you insufficiently supplying your body with nutrients. Im sorry it didnt work out for you, but that you have found a way that works. Its a good start. [23:18:22] So if I am invited to a local TZM meeting .. can i go? o_O [23:18:28] D: [23:18:48] Many vegans and vegetarians i talkt too dont really have a systems perspective of their consumption of food. Buying beans from half way across the earth can be just as bad for the system as a whole as eating meat. [23:18:58] *** Quits: Julius (Julius@psyc.RBOSE) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [23:19:19] well since i had read up thoroughly on everything on veggie lifestyle, what i didnt know wasnt worth knowing, obviusly those nutrients that i needed were not available at all in the diet i had then [23:19:29] but they are avaliable a plenty in my current diet [23:19:41] and this diet also goes along much easier with my diabetes [23:19:51] i prefer to eat this way and be healthy [23:20:04] than be a veggie/vegan and having to take insulin [23:20:29] because any veggie diet would consist of to much carbs, no matter how careful you are [23:20:30] *** Joins: Julius (Julius@RBOSE-f819683b.pool.telekom.hu) [23:21:16] Im just saying nothing is impossible. That includes considering meat like your eating preferable to a vegan diet in some cases, when judging the two for environmental impact. [23:21:46] kman: i agree wholeheartedly about that last thing, many veggies preach idealisticly about how bad it is for the environment that you eat meat from a cow that grew up and was slaughtered 20km from you, while at the same time eating exotic greens and fruits from halfway across the world [23:22:46] there is way too much sanctimoniousness in the veggie circles [23:23:01] but there are active veggies in LCHF movement [23:23:05] so it is doable [23:23:34] they base their diet on coconut oil and dairy products to get fat and protein [23:23:58] but when you add it all up, their variant consist of at least 3x as many carbs as mine [23:24:03] and thats too much for me [23:24:08] Its really just a lack of systems perspective on the whole process. I constantly have to remind myself that the main reason most people choose to represent certain life styles are related to social belonging, not careful evaluation of ones impact on the environment. [23:24:18] Im glad you do your research ^^ [23:24:23] ;) [23:25:29] of course, it would be idiotic not too [23:25:38] i am after all a scientist in heart and mind ;) [23:26:22] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7gEOJwDmmk [23:26:22] You4Tube 2[Title] Nigel Farage - The People are holding you in contempt, Mr Barroso 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:04:53 2[Views] None 2[Rating] None 2[Uploaded] 2010-12-14 2[Description] European Parliament, Strasbourg-14 December 2010 Speaker: Nigel Farage MEP, UKIP, Co-President of the EFD Group in the European Parliament (Europe of Freedom and Democracy) Debate: Question hour with the President of the Commission, JosĂ© [23:26:24] No, but really. Even if we would disagree on the question of animal rights, we're showing each other the common value of putting a lot of effort into finding the best way of supplementing our bodies with nutritious food. Thats worth a lot to me ^^ [23:27:26] we are only disagreeing on animal right when it comes to the matter of killing them or not [23:27:54] i hate the way the animals are treated today, it is dispicable and anything but worthy of a civilised world [23:28:05] Yes. [23:28:22] happy and healthy animals give good meat that make happy and healthy humans [23:28:45] and i think it goes without saying that animals should be treated as gold they are [23:29:17] civilisation should be judged according how it treats its elderly, children and animal [23:29:42] However, i can see reason in your argument. To be honest im not sure if living as a hunter would be more ecologically sound than being a vegan, as i am currently. [23:29:43] and today we do not fulfill any of those criteirons to call ourselves civilized [23:29:57] I agree with you. [23:29:57] not hunter [23:30:11] just let animals graze on land that isnt arable for some reasons [23:30:19] That is another alternative. [23:30:24] steppes for example are poor in nutrition, you cannot grow much in [23:30:29] but grass growsh [23:30:38] so let the animals graze there [23:31:36] today arable land is used to grow concentrated fodder, such as maize or wheat [23:31:55] which is then given to cattle and other animals so they can grow faster on the animal farms [23:32:08] the fodder is generally GMO nowdays [23:32:12] outrageous [23:32:15] i hate it [23:32:23] hacked No if you go i global ban you!!! LOOOL [23:32:25] i do not accept it and i will fight it with every fiber of my being [23:32:28] was that a joke vinces? lol [23:33:50] heh [23:33:58] !globalban hacked [23:33:59] ACTION globalbans hacked with a teleporter which teleports to an unknown dimension [23:34:27] bookia, very encouraging! Im doing all i can aswell. I am still at a stage of making my diet more effective, so the activism hasnt really been in focus. [23:36:18] your health should always be the primary focus [23:36:26] OR food? :D [23:36:28] without the health there cant be any activism [23:38:01] ,quote random [23:38:01] And without sleep, i will be a ghost tomorrow. [23:38:01] Viper: Quote #154: "As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields. ~ Leo Tolstoy" (added by lukas at 05:47 PM, November 27, 2010) [23:38:11] nighty night [23:38:23] bookia, it was great talking to you. [23:38:26] Take care ya'll [23:38:34] kman: you too [23:38:36] Good night kman :) [23:39:00] ,quote random [23:39:00] Viper: Quote #39: "With realization of one's own potential and self-confidence in one's ability, one can build a better world. ~ Dalai Lama" (added by GhettoTux at 03:58 PM, August 04, 2010) [23:39:46] Gotta love some late night meow meow quotes though. [23:40:15] ,quote random [23:40:16] Viper: Quote #6: "Capitalism is the legitimate racket of the ruling class ~ Al Capone" (added by vinces at 09:07 PM, April 30, 2010) [23:41:05] more? [23:41:07] ,quote random [23:41:08] Viper: Quote #156: "The world without money would be a completely different place, but the human race would nevertheless survive quite well. The principle difference would be that many of the luxuries we take for granted probably would not exist and instead only the most necessary items we need for our well being and survival would be produced. ~ A W Drake" (added by dns at 08:28 PM, December 09, 2010) [23:42:52] Oh no.. This is just too much pornography too handle http://www.grassrootsengineering.com/blog/mymachine/ [23:42:54] URL Title: Grass Roots Engineering (at www.grassrootsengineering.com) [23:45:56] reprap clone? [23:48:22] Something like that. Used a lot of the same electronics i think. 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