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D:<) [01:09:59] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [01:10:02] *** Joins: Carbon (Carbon@RBOSE-27822b2c.wi.charter.com) [01:10:59] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [01:22:06] http://www.sott.net/articles/show/220158-Draft-of-Federal-Report-Finds-Radiation-Widespread-in-Houston-Water [01:22:07] URL Title: Draft of Federal Report Finds Radiation Widespread in Houston Water -- U.S. News -- Sott.net (at www.sott.net) [01:23:17] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [01:25:07] *** Quits: Ocsi (qwebirc@RBOSE-80d031e9.vodafone.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [01:29:31] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [01:30:50] *** Joins: mcsk_ (mcsk@729ABB.705D81.55AF52.E3A8AC) [01:31:10] *** Quits: mcsk (qwebirc@B319E5.FEA195.C29BB8.DEB273) (Quit: Page closed) [01:33:48] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [01:34:50] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [01:46:07] *** Quits: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@RBOSE-05844981.cust.bredband2.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [01:54:00] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE.org) (Quit: Leaving) [01:54:01] -|UFO|- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Quit: Leaving) [02:50:10] *** Quits: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-d3f00a0d.pool.telekom.hu) (Quit: Leaving) [02:50:35] *** Quits: mcsk_ (mcsk@729ABB.705D81.55AF52.E3A8AC) (Quit: Leaving) [03:08:10] *** Quits: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-5272e083.tbcn.telia.com) (Client closed the connection) [04:31:15] *** Quits: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-1411435f.biz.rr.com) (Quit: Leaving.) [05:55:57] It's interesting, this V for Vendetta movie, there's a "Big Brother" character in it and a sort of 1984-ish power structure, played by an actor in a movie version of Orwell's 1984 [05:56:08] these fucks don't let up for a moment [05:57:33] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-6eae0f6d.pool.t-online.hu) [05:57:45] *** Quits: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-6eae0f6d.pool.t-online.hu) (Client closed the connection) [06:44:16] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@A96332.EE04F8.9D867A.D301C4) [07:01:04] https://zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com/2010/12/20/zeitgeist-property-of-gentle-machine-productions-limited-liability-company/ [07:01:06] Grits' URL: http://xrl.us/bickiy [07:01:07] URL Title: Zeitgeist: Property of Gentle Machine Productions Limited Liability Company « Zeitgeist Movements Sources (at zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com) [07:03:28] 170 Scholes Street, Apt #18, Brooklyn, NY [07:04:43] morning folks [07:10:34] http://www.trademarkia.com/the-zeitgeist-movement-85121772.html [07:10:37] URL Title: THE ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT - Trademark by Gentle Machine Productions Brooklyn, NY - Serial Number: 85121772 (at www.trademarkia.com) [07:17:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1APOxsp1VFw [07:17:56] You4Tube 2[Title] Richard Dawkins on our "queer" universe 2[Category] Tech 2[Duration] 0:22:42 2[Views] 407905 2[Rating] 4.83 2[Uploaded] 2007-01-16 2[Description] http://www.ted.com Biologist Richard Dawkins makes a case for "thinking the improbable" by looking at how the human frame of reference limits our understanding of the universe. TEDTalks is a daily video podcast of the best talks and performances from the TED Conf [07:19:32] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [07:20:32] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [07:23:52] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mmskXXetcg [07:23:53] You4Tube 2[Title] Richard Dawkins - "What if you're wrong?" 2[Category] Comedy 2[Duration] 0:01:23 2[Views] 2474378 2[Rating] 4.67 2[Uploaded] 2006-11-25 2[Description] Richard Dawkins answers "the most simplest question" from a Liberty U student. I direct all the people (primarily evangelicals) who don't get it and object that "he didn't answer the question" to my response at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Hs-QMVLE4 UPDA [08:49:45] *** Joins: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-4fd3942e.lavasoft.net) [09:01:25] *** Joins: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9f8d8d9b.catv.broadband.hu) [09:02:28] *** Quits: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9f8d8d9b.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [09:07:09] Yo [09:11:59] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [09:12:59] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [09:22:09] *** Joins: anne (anne@RBOSE-e1cd21a7.adsl.tpnet.pl) [09:31:22] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [09:32:01] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8_dN5YWnyc&feature=player_embedded [09:32:02] You4Tube 2[Title] Dirt! The Movie Trailer 2[Category] Film 2[Duration] 0:02:07 2[Views] 94260 2[Rating] 4.93 2[Uploaded] 2009-10-29 2[Description] Dirt! The Movie is an insightful and timely film that tells the story of the glorious and unappreciated material beneath our feet. Inspired by William Bryant Logan's acclaimed book Dirt: The Ecstatic Skin of the Earth, Dirt! 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[17:24:01] Grits Billll u here? [17:25:09] There is a word for people who starts projects, but can't seem to let go of control over it as others join in. Creators Dilemma or something, but i can't seem to find it.. [17:25:39] I'm gonna use it for an essay/lecture material i'm writing. [17:26:32] I think it's quite useful in explaining some of the fall-pits of peer production and open projects and other meens of collaboration. [17:28:02] OH... [17:31:14] *** Quits: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-48a0ff96.mweb.co.za) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [17:31:21] hmm [17:31:32] i'm not sure which word it is you are refering to [17:32:59] http://www.sott.net/articles/show/219553-24-Signs-That-All-Of-America-Is-Becoming-Just-Like-Detroit-A-Rotting-Post-Industrial-Post-Apocalyptic-Wasteland [17:33:00] Caly's URL: http://tinyurl.com/39x2xl4 [17:33:01] URL Title: 24 Signs That All Of America Is Becoming Just Like Detroit - A Rotting, Post-Industrial, Post-Apocalyptic Wasteland -- Grand Theft Economics -- Sott.net (at www.sott.net) [17:33:02] *** Joins: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9f8d8d9b.catv.broadband.hu) [17:33:16] *** Quits: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9f8d8d9b.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [17:33:22] duxck: mkay... i keep hoping for the natives then =P [17:34:36] :P [17:34:51] One thing that i think is sad about the story you just posted [17:35:03] mmm? [17:35:17] *** Joins: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-799e6248.bredband.comhem.se) [17:35:18] It would be "easy" to solve the social problems of unemployment if there was a good community and communication between the citizens [17:35:26] sure. [17:35:41] if the 30% unemployed people acted together and worked for eachtoher they wouldn't need jobs [17:35:56] And i gather that is what will start happening naturally asw shit hit's the fan. People need to learn to depend on each others and nature once again. [17:36:00] 30% are far more than needed to make a sustainable free living society in these areas [17:36:12] duck, maybe even smaller number would be enough [17:36:18] duxck* [17:36:23] indeed [17:37:00] Oh, indeed, the socio-economic estimate is somwhere around 4-5% of population to keep us shed, fed and healthy [17:37:48] wich is hillarious, becouse 4% of all workforce in the US is allready non-profit or ideologic [17:37:57] (all work made) [17:38:08] the rest work with stuff we don't need, truly want or even desire but are marketed as something we need, want and desire :P [17:38:12] 4h a week per citizen [17:38:16] on avarage [17:38:40] duxck: Yeah, did you see that cristmas video freom Bill Maher? [17:38:45] ofc i did [17:38:48] =) [17:38:49] loved it :) [17:39:00] could you link me guys? :) [17:39:09] A lot of his stuff is imho bollocks but that was brilliant :) [17:40:05] I keep coming back to this quote by Tom Shepard from the beginning of this book i have.. "A door like this has opened five or six times since we got up on our hind legs. It is the best possible time to be alive, when almost everything you thought you knew is wrong." [17:40:33] indeed [17:41:14] http://open.spotify.com/track/1LF0DfCa0csIFDg9rnF4Ia [17:41:15] duxck: [Track] Basin Street Blues [Artist] Ella Fitzgerald [Length] 03:02 [Album] Love You Madly [Track Num] 2 [17:41:26] <3 [17:44:08] *** Joins: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-48a0ff96.mweb.co.za) [17:51:05] *** Quits: Julius (Julius@psyc.RBOSE) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [18:02:12] *** Joins: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-5aa36246.biz.rr.com) [18:04:10] *** Joins: csacse (qwebirc@RBOSE-939b0d6b.catv.broadband.hu) [18:11:48] *** Joins: zxvzxv (qwebirc@RBOSE-5d26dd30.customer.cdi.no) [18:11:58] this is a cult [18:12:15] guys, are you enyoing to be in a cult? [18:13:11] * zxvzxv slaps RBOSE around a bit with a large fishbot [18:13:42] *** Parts: zxvzxv (qwebirc@RBOSE-5d26dd30.customer.cdi.no) [18:13:51] lol [18:14:04] silly alaskan [18:21:24] Caly: http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Genesis_1 [18:21:26] URL Title: Genesis 1 - LOLCat Bible Translation Project (at www.lolcatbible.com) [18:21:33] I love how insanly bored some people seem to be :D [18:23:15] *** Joins: Cyclo (Cyclo@C5AB1F.517811.C1AA74.06E43B) [18:26:15] *** Joins: jgege (jgege@RBOSE-222ef051.pool.hdsnet.hu) [18:32:37] *** Quits: kman2 (qwebirc@E1A5C2.F3F03E.D9CDAF.0040FD) (Quit: Page closed) [18:35:12] hi folks [18:35:12] Hey [18:36:30] oh hi [18:36:41] hi :) [18:37:14] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [18:37:59] lukas: it feels like we only greet one another all day long :P [18:38:14] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [18:38:22] haha, yes [18:42:04] duxck, I've been busy with this http://dev.rbose.org/beta/ planning how to implement all the stuff, thinking what we need, making todos, reading specs, and implementing menus, integration with wiki and user profiles [18:42:05] URL Title: Welcome to the RBOSE! (beta) (at dev.rbose.org) [18:42:29] Sweet [18:42:30] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [18:43:30] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [18:43:46] *** Joins: Diago_ (Diago@B38B54.890583.AA43FA.141642) [18:44:39] *** Joins: Baradosa (Baradosa@RBOSE-5813bb6c.pool.invitel.hu) [18:44:47] I thought today that it would be nice to have workable core in the very first days of 2011 :) [18:45:02] *** Quits: Diago (Diago@B38B54.890583.AA43FA.141642) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [18:45:34] *** Quits: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-fe675bc6.pool.t-online.hu) (Quit: Leaving) [18:47:40] *** Joins: Diago (Diago@B38B54.890583.15629E.BC7CA0) [18:48:28] *** Quits: Diago_ (Diago@B38B54.890583.AA43FA.141642) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [18:56:26] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI [18:56:26] You4Tube 2[Title] My Blackberry Is Not Working! - The One Ronnie, Preview - BBC One 2[Category] Comedy 2[Duration] 0:02:53 2[Views] 301199 2[Rating] 4.98 2[Uploaded] 2010-12-20 2[Description] More about this programme: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wyj62 Ronnie Corbett and Harry Enfield star in this fruity sketch from The One Ronnie. [18:59:11] Eggsbox £3.60 loooool [19:00:12] *** Joins: enive (qwebirc@A901ED.77CDD6.3706B0.DDC0DF) [19:13:32] *** Joins: Diago__ (Diago@B38B54.890583.145B6D.64B630) [19:15:32] *** Quits: Diago (Diago@B38B54.890583.15629E.BC7CA0) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [19:17:42] *** Quits: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-48a0ff96.mweb.co.za) (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [19:18:03] * Viper 10î’£  îš 14Pedro Del Mar 10 & 14Mellomania Deluxe 430 on ETN.fm 2010-04-12 1045% 126m10s 4☣ 14Mellomania Deluxe  10î’3Exaile10î’ž [19:25:04] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [19:26:05] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [19:29:46] wo0t Sex reversal gene: Male mice can be created without Y chromosome via ancient brain gene [19:29:47] URL Title: Sex reversal gene: Male mice can be created without Y chromosome via ancient brain gene (at ur.ly) [19:29:57] 0_o [19:31:10] o_ 0 [19:35:04] *** Joins: Diago (Diago@B38B54.890583.C135F6.C584A3) [19:35:46] *** Quits: csacse (qwebirc@RBOSE-939b0d6b.catv.broadband.hu) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [19:37:04] *** Quits: Diago__ (Diago@B38B54.890583.145B6D.64B630) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [19:37:13] *** Quits: jgege (jgege@RBOSE-222ef051.pool.hdsnet.hu) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [19:43:59] *** Joins: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9f8d8d9b.catv.broadband.hu) [19:47:05] *** Viper is now known as Phantom [19:49:07] *** Joins: Diago___ (Diago@B38B54.890583.AFE2B6.AD3D11) [19:50:36] *** Quits: Diago (Diago@B38B54.890583.C135F6.C584A3) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [19:55:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH13DY9HT1c [19:55:01] You4Tube 2[Title] Respect and Obey Authority 2[Category] Music 2[Duration] 0:04:29 2[Views] 15162 2[Rating] 1.33 2[Uploaded] 2010-01-29 2[Description] This is West Coast Believers Kid's band called X-TReMe PoWeR. It was our second song and we made up the lyrics and put it all together through garage band. It's all about respecting and obeying your teachers, your parents, and Jesus! Hope you like this one too! [19:55:14] http://www.conspiracycards.com/Toys/RonPaul_Revolution_ActionFigure.jpg [20:11:31] *** Joins: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-b892627d.pool.telekom.hu) [20:11:47] *** Parts: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-b892627d.pool.telekom.hu) [20:13:07] *** Quits: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9f8d8d9b.catv.broadband.hu) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [20:14:30] *** Joins: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9f8d8d9b.catv.broadband.hu) [20:26:34] ahh I just realized another reason Kneel loves V for Vendetta so much [20:26:48] all the "heroes" in the movie are homosexual or psychotic mass murderers or both [20:28:04] the stuff in the movie about the British government releasing a disease that wreaks havoc in the whole world seems like a subplot compared to the "character development" of all the homos in the movie [20:31:42] *** Quits: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [20:33:49] *** Quits: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9f8d8d9b.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [20:35:42] I love how "V" in the movie gains converts, he kidnaps and tortures them :| [20:36:27] they illustrate the most severe and irreversible kind of cult indoctrination, the same kind the military uses to produce faithful soldiers, in microcosm [20:37:11] the emotional cues in the movie suggest it's some profound and necessary process that must be endured, like childbirth [20:38:19] it really opens my eyes to the "cult" aspect of the Zeitgeist movement web site forum, but really it's no more a "cult" than any other web site forum [20:39:04] and really no more significant, except in that it could be used to reach a lot of people, but is instead used to consistently alienate the only people capable of actually doing anything [20:39:47] *** Diago___ is now known as Diago [20:44:19] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z66gCiT7sCY&feature=&p=8BA5429342E801EB&index=0&playnext=1 [20:44:20] You4Tube 2[Title] Let's make money multilang 1/10 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:10:47 2[Views] 6048 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2010-05-31 2[Description] Part2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_6rB17uzOY&feature=PlayList&p=8BA5429342E801EB&playnext_from=PL&index=8 Most of us don't know where their money is. However, one thing is for certain, it's is not in the bank to which we entrusted it. The bank and our money is already [20:44:30] I was thinking about how resource distribution might work in a resource based economy [20:44:58] most people imagine some kind of system where you're given like a ration coupon, you're allowed to use that much resources and no more [20:45:40] and some go even further suggesting in a "transition" these ration coupons could be bought with money [20:45:51] *** Joins: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-a335de8c.cust.tele2.se) [20:46:16] *** Joins: idk (idk@RBOSE-664672aa.bb.online.no) [20:46:19] these paradigms start with the premise that consumption must be controlled or there will be more waste, gluttony, pollution, everything [20:47:19] I always approach it from a different angle, I imagine a computer system that monitors your resource usage and makes suggestions that will conserve resources and benefit the person in question using those resources [20:48:29] the system could not only make suggestions but track the benefits of those suggestions and periodically notify people how much more "efficient" they are [20:49:06] there's all the feedback you need to modify people's behaviour, praise them when they save a gallon of water every forty-five minutes. [20:50:03] or praise them when they stop using computers as sledgehammers or other such nonsense [20:51:34] but the point is it's a monumental task to get a law passed convincingly and then enforce it on hundreds of millions if not billions of people [20:51:43] it's trivial to get machines to remind us about the world around us [20:51:54] and to give us good advice [20:52:31] just look at how simple it would be to design vehicles that were incapable of colliding with things [20:52:54] yet instead we have "traffic laws", which do a pretty piss poor job of stopping collisions, in fact it probably contributes to a lot of them [21:07:35] *** Quits: Baradosa (Baradosa@RBOSE-5813bb6c.pool.invitel.hu) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [21:08:06] *** Joins: Baradosa (Baradosa@RBOSE-5813bb6c.pool.invitel.hu) [21:10:34] plenty of slow-motion LARP-like combat in V for Vendetta, no wonder Kneel took a shine to it [21:18:54] that has to be one of the weakest movies I've ever seen [21:24:34] LoL [21:25:26] http://i.imgur.com/xMwGI.jpg [21:32:40] Nice picture. 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