[00:08:47] *** Quits: kman (kman@11ED70.39EA55.859DFC.C0D209) (Connection closed) [00:35:02] *** Quits: adam (qwebirc@RBOSE-9bf9bf17.bredband.comhem.se) (Quit: Page closed) [00:35:59] *** Joins: Gambler (Gambler@RBOSE-a0b87b83.pool.telekom.hu) [00:43:19] *** Quits: Cyclo (Cyclo@C5AB1F.517811.C1AA74.06E43B) (Quit: Leaving) [01:42:48] *** Quits: Gambler (Gambler@RBOSE-a0b87b83.pool.telekom.hu) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [02:06:31] http://www.adlerbooks.com/banned.html [02:06:31] URL Title: Banned Books (at www.adlerbooks.com) [02:08:41] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [02:09:41] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [02:18:13] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-63f65a0d.pool.t-online.hu) [02:21:53] *** Quits: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-63f65a0d.pool.t-online.hu) (Quit: Leaving) [02:42:11] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [02:43:11] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [03:05:02] *** Quits: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@5048B2.E9D5BE.E339CA.C53C66) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [03:57:20] anyway, comotion, whatever your point was [03:57:56] I'm not talking about a police state, I'm talking about your coffee maker telling you if you fill the pot half full you'll save time, and water, and coffee, and never have cold coffee to clean up [04:30:51] *** Quits: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-5aa36246.biz.rr.com) (Quit: Leaving.) [05:34:51] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [05:35:52] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [06:05:48] *** Joins: Darren (qwebirc@49E764.07C204.AE81A3.D25178) [06:06:03] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6mcSXge4Qo [06:06:04] You4Tube 2[Title] Frost over the World - Julian Assange 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:24:01 2[Views] 23994 2[Rating] 4.97 2[Uploaded] 2010-12-22 2[Description] The WikiLeaks founder talks about secrets, leaks and why he will not go back to Sweden. [06:07:05] Hey DNS :D [06:11:02] Hello - I stumbled on RBOSE a few weeks back. A few months back I stumbled on another project that I've been involved wth. |It appears to share much with RBOSE. [06:11:31] Cool [06:11:40] Welcome to RBOSE Darren :) [06:12:41] Cheers Phantom [06:12:49] See http://cotw.cc [06:12:51] URL Title: Coalition of the Willing - cotw.cc (at cotw.cc) [06:20:00] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@A96332.EE04F8.5A3151.72D71C) [06:22:56] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE.org) (Connection closed) [06:22:56] -|UFO|- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Remote host closed the connection) [06:24:34] thanks Darren i check it out :) [06:26:47] hi Darren :) [06:28:18] Cool :) Hello :) From what I've seen and heard (checked out one of you mumble logs previously) here and how I understand things progressing there it looks like there should gains from some interaction. [06:39:53] *** Joins: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-48a0ff96.mweb.co.za) [06:42:10] I've got to shut down and go to bed now. I'll check the logs and come back here later. Would be interesting to hear what you think.about COTW. [06:42:29] -|UFO|- nick change by Out`Of`Control to Viper on FREENODE [06:42:32] *** Phantom is now known as Viper [06:42:39] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [06:42:52] Sure we have a channel on freenode too #rbose [06:44:25] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [06:44:52] NIce to make contact :) [06:45:08] :) [06:45:19] Maybe we can set up a meeting in mumble? [06:47:03] !hello all [06:47:04] Heya #RBOSE! DNS asked me to greet you all, and thats what i just did. If anybody needs help, type !help [06:47:09] ?? mumble [06:47:11] mumble[1]: A low-latency, high-quality voice communication software. [06:47:13] mumble[2]: [host:] rbose.org [port:] 64738 [06:47:15] mumble[3]: [wiki:] http://rbose.org/wiki/Mumble [06:47:17] mumble[4]: Join #mumble channel for support and more information. [06:47:19] mumble[5]: You can search from IRC at the official Mumble wiki by typing: !mu [06:48:53] *** Quits: Darren (qwebirc@49E764.07C204.AE81A3.D25178) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [06:51:45] *** Joins: anne (anne@RBOSE-f04c9448.adsl.tpnet.pl) [06:53:04] morning anne :) [06:53:25] Morning Viper:) [07:02:12] what was that just somebody spamming his web site or what [07:04:51] "'Coalition of the Willing' is an animated film about an online war against global warming in a post-Copenhagen world." [07:04:57] what does that even mean, total spam [07:04:58] *** Quits: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-48a0ff96.mweb.co.za) (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [07:09:27] *** Joins: BranManFloMinux (BranManFloMin@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) [07:10:34] * BranManFloMinux 10is listening to 14I'm On 10(2% / 4m14s) 10by 14Bobby Creekwater 10[3Exaile10] [07:11:42] * Viper 10   14Thomas Datt 10 & 14Chronicles 58 on ETN.fm April 2010 1027% 117m17s 4☣ 14Chronicles 58 on ETN.fm April 2010 103Exaile10 [07:15:44] * BranManFloMinux 10is listening to 14BT 10- 14Reality (Cassa De X) 10from 14http://tess.fast-serv.com:8792//listen.pls 10[3Exaile10] [07:16:58] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-63f65a0d.pool.t-online.hu) [07:23:32] *** Quits: BranManFloMinux (BranManFloMin@RBOSE-18872b47.res.rr.com) (Client closed the connection) [07:35:41] Free Permaculture Ebooks from http://www.luminaia.com/Permaculture/PermacultureWebsites.htm [07:35:42] URL Title: Permaculture Websites | Permaculture Courses | Permaculture Blogs | Permaculture Discussion Groups | Permaculture Education | Organic Gardening (at www.luminaia.com) [07:49:26] http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=55344 [07:49:27] URL Title: The Christmas Story, As Told By Cute Kids | I Am Bored (at www.i-am-bored.com) [07:49:29] damn kids are way to cute [07:49:34] fantastic production :) [07:49:50] too*Æ [07:49:53] *** Joins: expect0patronum (qwebirc@C85ECB.D28BAA.8B5D84.A0F466) [07:50:03] hi [07:50:07] hello there [07:51:13] i dont know how i can contribute to this [07:51:20] dont know what to study [07:51:22] In any way you want :) [07:52:08] i should be stuying something already but i dont really know what [07:52:24] What kind of stuff do you enjoy doing? [07:53:29] *** Parts: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-63f65a0d.pool.t-online.hu) [07:54:09] thinking about how this all could work [07:54:52] xactly`? [07:54:56] what exactly? [07:55:04] the venus project [07:55:15] Ah, k. [07:55:38] i was thinking abotu edcation [07:55:43] education in the future [07:55:56] As do we all :) [07:56:46] RBOSE isn't affiliated directly with TVP though, some of the peeps here support it others do not. As I understand it, we aim more of empowering individuals rather than restructure the entire world. [07:56:46] you think about how education will be in the venus project or rbose etc [07:56:59] Well how to make education better in general [07:58:18] more individualized [08:00:42] *** Joins: eexpectopatronum (qwebirc@C85ECB.D28BAA.8B5D84.A0F466) [08:00:48] *** Quits: expect0patronum (qwebirc@C85ECB.D28BAA.8B5D84.A0F466) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [08:01:12] *** Quits: faresz (qwebirc@RBOSE-22264bfc.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [08:01:29] *** Joins: faresz (qwebirc@RBOSE-22264bfc.catv.broadband.hu) [08:01:51] duxck about the chrismas story--> nice story, culturally loaded [08:02:25] I just like the cute kids and the production :) [08:03:20] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [08:04:05] yes [08:04:20] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [08:04:43] *** Quits: eexpectopatronum (qwebirc@C85ECB.D28BAA.8B5D84.A0F466) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [08:05:27] I decided tomorrow to make pizzas for dinner;P you need to know that Christmas dinner in Poland consists of 12 dishes;P [08:06:25] I don't celebrate christmas [08:06:33] I'm going for a vegan lasagna i believe :) [08:06:52] which is prepared by the three previous days [08:07:05] anne: the pizza? :P [08:07:52] *** Joins: JZO (qwebirc@B46EE4.15A76C.B5037E.7982CA) [08:08:06] yes, why not, this connection of all 12 dishes in one [08:08:38] Morning party tunes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HX5-ulcdXc [08:08:39] You4Tube 2[Title] Dude You Have No Quran AUTOTUNE REMIX 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:01:52 2[Views] 801618 2[Rating] 4.77 2[Uploaded] 2010-09-15 2[Description] See more hilarious vids here http://www.rkshorts.com Jacob Isom rescues a Quran before it can be burned. Dude, you have no Quran! BUY THE T-SHIRT HERE http://bartbaker.viralprints.com/dude-you-have-no-quran-2643 If you have not seen the original check it out here [08:08:45] I am bored @work :P [08:13:14] i dont celebrete christmas too, but but yesterday when someone asked what vegetarians eat for Christmas Eve (because the fish are, however, meat) and I replied that the pizzas, they immediately began to throw the baby of staff Claus, gifts and a Christmas tree. [08:14:00] whose baby did they throw? [08:16:40] sorry anne but I didn't understand the last part :) [08:16:40] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [08:20:40] *** Joins: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-97e94126.lavasoft.net) [08:21:03] ok [08:21:06] sorry [08:22:01] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-63f65a0d.pool.t-online.hu) [08:25:03] the point is that she began to tell the story of Christmas and the culturally and materially burdened relations (in Poland, in this case we use the names to "throw meat") [08:25:07] ;) [08:29:06] duxck, ah and it was a child, which was located just under my care [08:33:27] Haha I still don't follow but it's okay anyway :D [08:35:56] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [08:36:43] `fortune [08:36:43] <|UFO|> Viper: For a light heart lives long. -- Shakespeare, "Love's Labour's Lost" [08:44:15] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [08:45:15] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [08:54:45] the point is that when people say here is that you do not celebrate Christmas, they were trying to convince that the celebration of holidays, getting presents, and 12 dishes is great. A child simply is vulnerable to a story about Santa and gifts, and it can be easily used by the so-called defenders St. Nicholas [08:57:27] I hope that next christmas my English will be good enough to explain what I mean;P [09:02:59] *** Quits: anne (anne@RBOSE-f04c9448.adsl.tpnet.pl) (Connection closed) [09:04:46] *** Quits: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-97e94126.lavasoft.net) (Quit: Leaving) [09:06:58] *** Joins: expectopartonum (qwebirc@C85ECB.D28BAA.8B5D84.A0F466) [09:07:02] hi [09:07:10] i can type now [09:07:17] the typing bar was not working [09:10:06] :) [09:10:08] It happens [09:12:30] oh hi [09:12:33] i was away [09:12:46] yes im completely lost :(( [09:12:55] Hehe [09:13:06] Well you can check the todos on the wiki [09:13:25] *** Joins: mogeda (qwebirc@RBOSE-fb73bfdb.catv.broadband.hu) [09:13:29] i was thinking about architecture [09:13:51] http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:Tasks [09:13:53] URL Title: Tasks Snapshot - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [09:14:01] what kind of architecture? [09:14:29] *** Quits: JZO (qwebirc@B46EE4.15A76C.B5037E.7982CA) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [09:15:44] architecture [09:15:45] housing [09:15:47] etc [09:15:48] aah [09:16:04] my mouse doesnt now [09:16:06] there are a couple of peeps here who are interested in that [09:16:23] it keeps freezing and i have unplug and plug back in [09:17:30] *** Joins: ebro (qwebirc@RBOSE-c65dd087.c-220.tvnetwork.hu) [09:17:31] but if i study that i would probable end designing no change [09:17:39] probably* [09:17:55] *** Quits: mogeda (qwebirc@RBOSE-fb73bfdb.catv.broadband.hu) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [09:18:06] i want to go talk to fidel castro [09:18:08] :P [09:18:14] just do it! :P [09:18:16] thats what I want to do [09:18:33] so should i study international relations? [09:18:44] or just send an e-mail and ask for a chat [09:18:55] i read he doesnt have an email [09:19:01] really [09:19:04] snail mail? :) [09:19:25] i was serious, i think cuba could be the place for a transition [09:19:36] since it is not so dependant on the monetary system [09:19:47] for example it prodoces all its food [09:19:50] produces [09:20:28] due to the US emabrgo and others [09:21:23] the problem with cuba is cuba [09:22:04] central planning of the economy [09:22:28] *** Joins: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-97e94126.lavasoft.net) [09:23:44] i had thought about filmmaking, architecture, international relations and industrial engineering or something about business to work at Mondragon Cooperative corporation :p [09:26:27] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@A96332.EE04F8.5A3151.72D71C) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [09:27:29] the future of cooperatives would be to invest in more mechanization and projects for the participants like organic food production for their use, a laboratory for medicines for their use, that way the cooperatives would be less suceptible to the market's slippery feet [09:28:10] but ive also thought about suicide [09:28:21] LOL [09:30:59] if a cooperative corporation became such an integrated system that it covered issues like health etc... then it could sort of passivelyt become a direct democracy within a representative republic [09:31:42] tbh expectopartonum do what you enjoy doing. for me learning by doing beats schools all days of the week :) [09:32:20] me too [09:32:35] but i really dont know what to study [09:32:44] imo, the only job the school has is to locate someones passions [09:32:59] expectopartonum: you don't have to study, just do :) [09:33:09] yes with whom? [09:33:10] lol [09:33:18] i mean i cant do much by my own [09:33:21] ofc you can [09:33:40] If you build it they will come! :) [09:33:43] but i need a job to survive as well [09:34:17] what can i do without studying that i would enjoy and would help create this transition [09:35:14] i wanted to go to europe :( and study in the netherlands [09:35:22] where my best friend lives [09:35:34] just do it [09:35:39] my lover :p [09:35:39] nothing is stoping you besides yourself [09:35:44] yes money [09:35:48] i dont have money [09:35:56] i got accepted at a film school in london [09:36:06] but yes because they thought i could pay the fees [09:36:07] lol [09:36:16] metropolitan film school [09:37:06] i was searching about trainingships [09:37:13] not interships [09:37:26] intern* [09:38:23] how do you write trainingships properly? [09:39:12] no idea [09:39:16] apprencticeship sorry [09:39:20] expectopartonum: work your way to europe [09:39:21] or trainneship [09:39:25] get trip for free and earn money [09:39:28] get a job on a boat [09:39:34] brb [09:39:40] i thought of that as well [09:43:02] if i work in a ship then what? [09:44:14] i just want to be next to my boy [09:44:15] and die [09:44:23] then i could pass away [09:44:32] ? [09:44:49] yes :) [09:45:02] rbose is not something like tvp, rbe or tzm lol [09:45:06] Hi there [09:45:10] i know [09:45:13] im thyextendedself [09:45:22] oh i see :D [09:45:25] Mexico hehe [09:45:29] yes [09:45:32] why hehe [09:46:02] because it is an underdeveloped country? [09:46:06] no [09:46:24] if it would be UK i would say UK hehe [09:46:34] have nothing to do with place [09:46:53] well im kidding [09:46:54] :p [09:47:35] i think they would accept me in any school if i pay LOL [09:47:42] at any age haha [09:47:48] i said that [09:47:51] u were reading? [09:47:59] yes hehe [09:48:14] *** Joins: anne (anne@RBOSE-f04c9448.adsl.tpnet.pl) [09:48:24] wb anne [09:48:27] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gurt6fQ6nI [09:48:28] You4Tube 2[Title] Paulina and the Truffle 2[Category] Film 2[Duration] 0:06:41 2[Views] 16284 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2010-05-06 2[Description] This video has no description. [09:50:28] oh wow [09:50:37] what are they building in the video? [09:53:44] you'll see at the end ;) [09:54:19] hello again anne [09:54:25] !pillow anne [09:54:26] ACTION quickly throws a pillow in the face of anne [09:54:46] hi:) [09:55:13] i like it [09:55:20] :) [10:00:40] *** Joins: kman2 (qwebirc@E1A5C2.F3F03E.D9CDAF.0040FD) [10:00:51] *** kman2 is now known as kman [10:01:08] architecture or international relations [10:01:28] Herroh :3 [10:01:32] why waste money on school? [10:01:37] *** Joins: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@5048B2.E9D5BE.E339CA.C53C66) [10:01:38] kman my man! [10:01:39] <3 [10:01:42] and morning lundburgerr-TZM [10:02:04] well where can i learn architecture for free [10:02:26] im looking into apprenticeships in google right now [10:03:38] pen and paper and make schematics? [10:03:38] its not that easy [10:03:38] u need to know about materials [10:03:57] so the building does not collapse [10:04:08] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [10:05:08] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [10:06:59] No. [10:07:33] expectopartonum: buy books, read [10:07:39] expectopartonum maybe here http://openarchitecturenetwork.org/about [10:07:40] URL Title: About the Open Architecture Network | Open Architecture Network (at openarchitecturenetwork.org) [10:08:34] Wow.. Open etherpad is down. I had material there.. [10:08:41] damn [10:09:05] skype was down as well [10:09:06] I am extremely disapoint. [10:09:30] do not buy, rent in the library;) [10:09:38] but then i dont have a license [10:09:42] arechitect license [10:10:39] so? [10:10:47] kman we have gobby server [10:10:48] morning morning! [10:10:55] so i cant get a job if i dont [10:11:04] expectopartonum: what do you want to build? Architects design buildings, engineers build them. [10:11:56] Viper: Yeah,. I didnt manage to connect last time. Its ok. I found the text i needed on my mail. [10:12:10] ^^ [10:12:25] so an architect could design many things that cannot be built? [10:12:26] Viper: it never gave me the pwd query when trying to connect [10:13:09] expectopartonum: not if he wants to "make a living' [10:13:50] so he should know about engineering as well [10:14:07] Know about? [10:14:09] kman are you on Gobby 05? [10:14:11] *** Quits: ebro (qwebirc@RBOSE-c65dd087.c-220.tvnetwork.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [10:14:12] i think a licensed architect knows about engineering as well [10:14:16] Viper: yes. [10:14:23] no? [10:14:37] you can try to connect now [10:16:15] the first rbose will start in cuba [10:16:59] i thought i can start as a settlement [10:17:16] developing a built environment [10:17:16] the first rbose what? [10:17:21] start as a camp* [10:17:37] rbose isn't a online development environment [10:17:47] is a* [10:17:54] i know [10:18:08] but isnt really the final goal a resource based economy? [10:18:26] Im not sure i understand what you are referring to by "know about". What i was trying to say was that if your just looking to build something, engineering would, for me, be the most logical place to start. [10:18:35] what is rbe? haha [10:18:36] no private ownership of resources, neither gov ownership but communal [10:19:02] expectopartonum: some people here do think that RBE is the best way to go, others don't [10:19:05] kman yes [10:19:09] ^^ [10:19:33] Im very interested in getting things working. How they look, not so much ^^ [10:19:47] functions before fashion! [10:20:00] Amen brother [10:20:10] but a certain function will have a look [10:20:52] for example an integral environment that mixes the hospital, the university and the home will look certain way [10:20:59] well "have a look" ofc, all materials has a "look", but never design at the cost of function [10:21:47] yep [10:22:29] which is generally the case when it comes to designers, architects, fashonists, developers in general [10:22:33] "Make it look cool1" [10:22:44] expectopartonum have you seen the movie "first earth"? [10:22:53] nop [10:22:56] whats it about? [10:23:05] architecture [10:23:36] http://www.davidsheen.com/firstearth/ [10:23:37] URL Title: First Earth | Uncompromising Ecological Architecture (at www.davidsheen.com) [10:24:45] ok, ill be watching it now [10:24:48] thanks :) [10:24:55] looks interesting [10:24:58] bbl then [10:24:59] :p [10:28:36] *** Quits: anne (anne@RBOSE-f04c9448.adsl.tpnet.pl) (Connection closed) [10:33:36] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [10:34:36] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [10:40:06] i know what ill do [10:40:30] im going to live with a ''primitive'' culture [10:40:43] ill tell my boy to come :p [10:42:43] expectopartonum: limiting your material needs is a good idea. Doesnt have to get "primitive" as in crossbow-and-cave-for-a-living though. [10:42:57] yup [10:43:29] I find small scale timber work being a very interesting prospect for living space manufacturing. [10:44:55] expectopartonum: have you seent he giant robot project? [10:45:12] no [10:45:18] but it sounds interesting [10:46:11] wouldnt it be awesome if there was still some free land [10:46:25] Look it up on youtube. Basically, its a guy living on a piece of land in the mountains with a single goal in mind- building a giant quadrupedal (?) robot that he can ride in. [10:47:01] lol [10:47:06] That, by itself, isnt really interesting to me, but all the ideas he gets when trying to work on his limited budget are really incredible. [10:47:10] i was about to look for it, k lemme find it [10:47:24] Especially his junk saw mill! [10:48:44] Welding station, house isolation and so on are well worth noting aswell. [10:48:44] Will probably give you loads of inspiration. 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5291 2[Rating] 1.32 2[Uploaded] 2010-12-19 2[Description] this is a REUPLOAD of a fantastic video that had comments disabled: " This is West Coast Believers Kid's band called X-TReMe PoWeR. It was our second song and we made up the lyrics and put it all together through garage band. It's all about respecting and obeying your teache [11:48:40] <|UFO|> 08<14duxck@FREENODE08> lol [11:51:26] As if "respect" having a clear and well-known meaning in that context. [11:52:29] -|UFO|- mode change by |UFO| on FREENODE: +v duxck [11:52:44] <|UFO|> 08<14duxck@FREENODE08> yaay, i'm special [11:52:49] oh yea and jesus mhahaha [11:54:30] *** Quits: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-97e94126.lavasoft.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [11:54:42] *** Joins: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-4fd3942e.lavasoft.net) [12:19:55] http://www.technologyreview.com/web/26981/page1/?a=f [12:19:58] URL Title: Home Internet with Anonymity Built In - Technology Review (at www.technologyreview.com) [12:23:09] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [12:24:09] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [12:31:22] *** Quits: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-4fd3942e.lavasoft.net) (Client closed the connection) [12:31:40] *** Joins: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-97e94126.lavasoft.net) [12:41:59] *** Quits: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-63f65a0d.pool.t-online.hu) (Quit: Leaving) [12:42:35] *** Quits: idk (idk@RBOSE-664672aa.bb.online.no) (Quit: Lost terminal) [12:57:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86Krv3gE-c4&feature=BF&list=PL13A11662BDE6EB83&index=1 [12:57:14] You4Tube 2[Title] Giant Robot Project, Part 1 2[Category] Entertainment 2[Duration] 0:04:01 2[Views] 93402 2[Rating] 4.94 2[Uploaded] 2007-09-05 2[Description] I'm building a giant walking vehicle.... and documenting it.... poorly. Hey, its tough inventing things AND holding a camera! [12:59:59] Viper, I'm not sure about all that anonymity stuff.We all are human beings and maybe we should instead learn more about each other and how to coexist without fight. Sometimes i think they are pushing with all these operations, including wl, a system to produce more secrecy to hide actions of the people in control, and to use "normal" people in that process and their processing power so information could be send different paths without being intercepted. [13:21:37] I think anonymity should be an obvious option in how we both live IRL and on the internet [13:21:52] anon is a big part of freedom [13:22:05] i dont understand lukas umm [13:22:47] let me maybe rephrase then :) [13:23:24] people in control will hide there shit any way. [13:23:45] I'm not sure about that last one Viper [13:24:02] I just dont like that info about me is collected. What i do on internet [13:24:18] true [13:25:21] but from my perspective anon and secrecy goes in one pair - you cannot get rid of one heaving the second still in the game, but i don't know what the balance should be, it's just the mentality that some people try to control or manipulate others [13:25:44] second its good to go around filters [13:26:13] personal anonymity = good, cooperational, governmental anonymity = bad :) [13:26:39] none is collecting data about gov or corporations [13:26:54] But both of them collect info about me [13:27:07] and only corp and gov have access to that data [13:27:16] duxck :) [13:27:42] yes Viper, i see it as well as a problem :) [13:28:02] right now tor is the only way go around it :D [13:28:13] or use no internet hahah [13:29:21] this issue has a lot to do with client-server architecture, and server is the point which is able to gather a lot of info about clients [13:30:48] * lukas loves BeautifulSoup already! [13:31:21] http://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/ [13:31:22] URL Title: Beautiful Soup: We called him Tortoise because he taught us. (at www.crummy.com) [13:51:37] *** Joins: Tuohimetsa (Mouho1@RBOSE-acec1f1c.yok.fi) [13:55:10] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-63f65a0d.pool.t-online.hu) [14:01:29] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-16ee9448.bredband.skanova.com) [14:01:43] -|UFO|- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [14:01:44] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Calyp [14:03:12] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [14:05:09] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [14:06:25] *** Joins: Darren (qwebirc@B46EE4.9348F1.2459DD.CDBAE7) [14:06:47] Hello - I'm back [14:07:13] Hello Darren [14:08:30] Just had a quick look through the log from earlier [14:08:41] Hello Viper [14:10:20] Saw that thought I was spamming my site... And that he was confused by the message there. [14:10:43] Its not my site - just been taken by some of the ideaws forming therer [14:13:29] Ideas and mesage there are slowly forming but I suspect(hope) there wil be constant change. [14:17:11] I became aware of the efforts there ( http://cotw.cc ) through the first Movement Camp http://cotw.cc/wiki/MovementCamp [14:17:13] URL Title: Coalition of the Willing - cotw.cc (at cotw.cc) [14:18:43] I've become very interested in economics and direct democracy in the last couple of years [14:26:52] Which reignited an old affiliation/passion I've had with co-operatives. The first MovementCamp had speakers from CoopAgora and JAKBank. [14:26:58] *** Quits: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-97e94126.lavasoft.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [14:27:09] *** Joins: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-4fd3942e.lavasoft.net) [14:28:03] Thats what sucked me in. I became interested by the ideas about Interoperability and Open Stewardship that people appeared to be forming around [14:29:56] http://cotw.cc/wiki/Open_Stewardship [14:29:57] URL Title: Open Stewardship - cotw.cc (at cotw.cc) [14:32:15] As I said before looks like many common ideas between COTW and RBOSE . I find the work here at RBOSE very interesting. [14:36:08] You said, earlier, about a meeting in mumble. What you were thinking? Maybe see if we can get people from both projects together to see if/where there is common ground [14:37:12] yeah [14:38:17] Cool :) [14:39:56] mumble meeting would be good. If no we can keep one in IRC [14:42:13] *** Quits: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@5048B2.E9D5BE.E339CA.C53C66) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [14:42:55] *** Joins: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@5048B2.E9D5BE.E339CA.C53C66) [14:43:55] -|UFO|- Darren has joined on FREENODE [14:45:05] -|UFO|- Darren has quit FREENODE (Client Quit) [14:45:15] http://coalitionofthewilling.org.uk/ <--- interesting stuff :) [14:45:16] URL Title: Coalition of the Willing | A Knife Party Production (at coalitionofthewilling.org.uk) [14:47:10] *** Joins: dLrG (DeLrge@RBOSE-49eb5c4b.tbcn.telia.com) [14:49:44] Mumble or IRC - my guess is that people at COTW would be up for trying out mumble - big part of the COTW is to use different collaborative tools http://etherpad.openstewardship.net/bricolage [14:49:45] URL Title: EtherPad: bricolage (at etherpad.openstewardship.net) [14:50:59] *** Joins: Diago (Diago@B38B54.890583.0CF84C.701701) [14:51:02] *** Quits: DeLrge (DeLrge@RBOSE-49eb5c4b.tbcn.telia.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [14:54:55] Ducking out to grab some food - keen to contuinue the conversation [15:04:24] *** Quits: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-63f65a0d.pool.t-online.hu) (Quit: Leaving) [15:11:34] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Connection closed) [15:12:03] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [15:52:40] *** Joins: Diago_ (Diago@B38B54.890583.607D1F.D62152) [15:54:41] *** Quits: Diago (Diago@B38B54.890583.0CF84C.701701) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [15:55:14] *** Joins: Diago__ (Diago@B38B54.890583.C5B77F.A17201) [15:56:40] *** Quits: Diago_ (Diago@B38B54.890583.607D1F.D62152) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [15:59:35] -|UFO|- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Quit: Leaving) [16:00:00] -|UFO|- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [16:00:01] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Calyp [16:10:43] *** Joins: anne (anne@RBOSE-b5f13883.adsl.tpnet.pl) [16:12:49] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [16:13:49] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [16:18:59] *** Joins: Diago___ (Diago@B38B54.890583.EDFA8B.878317) [16:19:55] *** Diago___ is now known as Diago [16:21:06] *** Quits: Diago__ (Diago@B38B54.890583.C5B77F.A17201) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [16:22:16] http://www.sott.net/articles/show/220257-Vatican-Christmas-Shocker-Pope-says-child-rape-isn-t-that-bad-was-normal-back-in-his-day [16:22:16] Viper's URL: http://x0.no/1muj [16:22:17] URL Title: Vatican Christmas Shocker! Pope says child rape isn't that bad, was normal back in his day -- UK & Euro-Asian News -- Sott.net (at www.sott.net) [16:22:29] WTF [16:31:36] wow [16:39:44] what els Pope need to say, so people stop following him??? [16:39:58] molest your child, don't use condom! 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[19:13:24] It's because the secret of how a trick is performed isn't impressive, only the trick is. [19:13:46] Revealing the trick is anticlimactic. [19:47:20] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-63f65a0d.pool.t-online.hu) [20:15:25] !globalban DNS [20:15:26] ACTION globalbans DNS with a timemachine, setted to 20.12.2012 [20:22:31] *** Quits: MouhoT (Mouho1@RBOSE-acec1f1c.yok.fi) (Quit: Lhdss) [20:27:54] http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpps/news/weird/ny-madam-arrested-for-terrorizing-sex-slaves-dpgonc-km-20100629_8401916 [20:27:55] URL Title: NY Madam Arrested For Terrorizing Sex Slaves (at www.myfoxhouston.com) [20:28:03] what is it with these mother fuckers abusing their sex slaves [20:29:55] "Inside her Tudor-style home, investigators found numerous wallets stuffed with $20,000 in cash. Detectives also seized more than 1,000 condoms, massage oils, lingerie and other items in raids on the places of alleged prostitution." [20:30:14] "Cui was arraigned on the charges and is being held in lieu of $10,000 cash bail." [20:30:36] wtf, she has $20000 in her "numerous wallets" and they're only charging her $10000 bail? 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