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[04:37:32] *** Quits: diogenez (Administrator@RBOSE-37e98d3b.ph.cox.net) (Quit: Leaving.) [05:05:53] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvRhUZnc7F0 [05:05:54] You4Tube 2[Title] CIA Agents Reveal "Secrets of the CIA" 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 1:00:06 2[Views] 332 2[Rating] 4.43 2[Uploaded] 2010-12-23 2[Description] "The CIA is a state-sponsored terrorists association. You don't look at people as human beings. They are nothing but pieces on the chessboard." -- Verne Lyon, former CIA agent in revealing documentary "Secrets of the CIA" Secrets of the CIA is a revealing 45-minute [05:12:16] Grits: nice, you have any other stuff in that area? I recall a long lecture by a CIA whistleblower on their cocain trade, but i havn't found it in like two years... ' [05:28:01] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [05:29:00] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [06:12:28] none that I can think of off the top of my head [06:16:48] mkay [06:17:14] it magically dissapered from the videosites... [06:17:16] go figure [06:17:29] Grits: so what you up to today? [06:17:45] !tz philadelphia [06:17:48] Caly, The time in Philadelphia, PA, USA is Sat Dec 25 12:17:45 AM 2010 (UTC-5000) [06:18:11] preparing the xmas turkey perhaps? [06:18:21] nah I don't do shit like that [06:18:33] points to you [06:18:34] I just put some chicken breasts in the oven [06:18:49] my girlfriend is visiting her family in India [06:18:56] oh [06:19:14] i had a gf from india once. [06:19:26] imports ftw xD [06:19:30] so have half a billion people, at least [06:19:36] xD [06:19:45] prolly not that common in Sweden though [06:19:55] might surprise you [06:20:22] lots of students I'd gues [06:20:23] s [06:20:53] I'd say 5000 or more at any given time, just the students [06:21:09] Sweden has good schools don't they? [06:21:12] whatev, she was damn pretty, i was young and considered my self lucky to score her. turns out she was a stupid, lazy bitch. [06:21:21] I mean engineering and medical schools [06:21:35] that's mainly what interests upper class indian students [06:21:38] yeah, i supposse. sure [06:21:45] yeah. [06:22:01] sure, lots a asians in our universities [06:22:03] I've always heard Sweden has spectacular medical schools [06:22:43] well, i do know we have been leading in several areas for many years. hart sergery and pransplants for example. [06:22:53] didn't you guys invent the sex change? [06:23:02] first pacemeker, first hart transplant, first.. alot of transplants. [06:23:18] hmm... that is possible, but i have no clue [06:23:25] what about head transplants [06:23:32] we surely make en [06:23:35] *'em [06:23:43] haha, don't think so [06:23:50] would be cool [06:24:08] yeah especially if you can clone your body for a younger version [06:24:13] i guess spine is the problem [06:24:26] they do some pretty amazing shit with microsurgery [06:24:27] hah, yea, that would be nice. [06:24:31] mm [06:24:33] they rewire neurons in the ear and eyes [06:24:43] but i think most of that is to be obsolete in a few years. [06:25:02] as revitaling medecine advances. [06:25:10] you mean when society is in ruins lorded over by cruel slavemasters with super science technology disguised as magic? [06:25:44] and human beings go back to making poultices out of chimney soot and biscuit flour [06:26:04] Since i heard Aubrey de Grey speak on TED, i got really interested in that stuff. [06:26:20] I really do think they're about to wipe us all out [06:27:25] might be their plan, sure. So lets Open Source and reverse engineer every piece of tech out there. [06:27:46] I'd rather just sit inside my dirtbag house and wait it out [06:27:55] corps have no way of keeping up with OS development, so... we might beat them to the punch if we get our shit together. [06:28:14] "dirtbag house" ? [06:28:21] earth bags [06:28:36] ah [06:29:17] youu know that guy that made hes own island out of bottles n shit? Now there's a feasable idéa... [06:29:31] the pirates will get him [06:29:39] just float the fuck away from the insanity. [06:30:10] well, why would pirates make the effort? to steal the veggies and chickens? [06:30:33] if they were hungry, you bet [06:30:47] or just to destroy it [06:31:24] well, they prowl the coasts, don't think they'd bother anyone out on the open sea [06:31:51] and i for one would not go unarmed there., [06:32:13] btw, i'm thinking about taking up archery. [06:32:23] that shit is probably just a publicity stunt to spam the internet with blogs about the "garbage island" in the ocean [06:32:34] tsssk [06:32:35] to lead them away from less sensational stories about the gyres [06:33:04] "gyres" ? [06:33:12] the trash floating in the gyres [06:33:29] !g gyres [06:33:31] 141,000 results | Ocean gyre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_gyre | North Pacific Gyre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Pacific_Gyre | 5 Gyres - Understanding Plastic Pollution Through Exploration ... @ http://5gyres.org/ [06:33:49] !g garbage gyre [06:33:51] 52,700 results | Images for garbage gyre @ http://www.google.com/images?q=garbage+gyre | Great Pacific Garbage Patch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch | HowStuffWorks "The Great Pacific Garbage Patch" @ http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/oceanography/great-pacific-garbage-patch.htm [06:34:37] Right... that piles of resources floating around... ;) [06:35:27] there's a plan, drift yout there on my bottle island and start harvesting it for goodies, saving the planet as i go about =) [06:35:33] why the hell not.. [06:35:56] yeah there's no shortage of the shit [06:36:20] right... and no one willing to claim it either. [06:36:24] freebee! [06:36:35] but the plastic bottle island thing isn't something everyone can do [06:36:49] most thing isn't [06:37:37] how about design a machine that putters around the ocean picking up plastic and weaving it into a floating island [06:37:48] most people on the planet can't sit in a villa sipping heineken 6:36 in the morning, fantasixing shit up on IRC from his laptop either. [06:38:11] haha, yeah... like autonomous? [06:38:15] yes [06:38:31] now there's an OS project! [06:38:45] something would surely colonize what they built [06:38:55] right. [06:39:48] they could even be programmed to build evaporative apparatus to mine the seawater for resources [06:39:51] and build more robots [06:40:02] sure =) [06:40:14] RepRap gen 5 ? [06:40:20] basically [06:40:22] ^^ [06:40:24] that floats [06:40:24] -|UFO|- tropology has joined on FREENODE [06:42:54] i recall this piece of shit movie where a science explorer ship got a alien virus via their satellite system, that made the ships computers and stuff start to make robots out of whatever it found, and killed off the crew etc. [06:42:56] seawater has pretty much every element dissolved in it, right? [06:43:49] mmm, i suppose. perhaps many chemicals breakes down into gases due to the high salt content, but other than that.. . [06:43:52] yeah [06:44:14] just about everything will dissolve in water to some extent [06:44:38] especially on geological time scales [06:44:42] and with a farily simple condenser or focused solar steam turbine, one would get all the electricity and fresh water needed. [06:45:07] lotsa sun hours at sea [06:45:14] definitely [06:45:23] and plastic is a suitable condenser [06:45:31] yeah! [06:46:16] photovoltaics wouldn't present much of a problem either, silicon is abundant everywhere [06:46:43] http://www.instructables.com/id/An-Algae-Bioreactor-from-Recycled-Water-Bottles/ [06:46:44] URL Title: An Algae Bioreactor from Recycled Water Bottles (at www.instructables.com) [06:47:14] there's just soooo many ways to harvest basically free energy. [06:48:42] yeah [06:49:02] you know some plastics would be suitable feedstock for a reprap [06:49:02] Grits: and i thought about this floating island concept.. is one made like a sewwater pond in the middle, just separated underneeth by a net (not fishing net, but some sturdier stuff that dont trap fish) one could breed fish and take safe swims =) [06:49:16] yeah, all thermoplastics basically. [06:50:06] so PVC stuff, milkbottles and such, but not PP or PET lie soda bottles. [06:50:16] *like [06:50:31] Poly Propylene and Poly Ethylene that is. [06:52:01] had to get a sattelite modem thou.. [06:52:05] ;P [06:53:37] prolly som good SW com radio i guess.. [06:54:14] but that's not too much of a problem as long as we could keep it dry [06:54:31] seal it in plastic [06:56:54] i guess there's nautic ones out there, with proper moist and corrosion protection... [06:57:36] fuck it just go with MEMS [06:58:42] i have this nice book on ferro-cement boatbuilding. perhaps we coukd make a decent structure to build upon, include concrete tanks and stuff, and build a geo-dome on top to make it wather resiliant... [06:58:44] MEMS? [06:58:49] !g MEMS [06:58:52] 11,500,000 results | Microelectromechanical systems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microelectromechanical_systems | MEMS @ http://www.memx.com/ | Sandia MEMS Home Page @ http://www.mems.sandia.gov/ [06:58:52] !g mems [06:58:55] 11,500,000 results | Microelectromechanical systems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microelectromechanical_systems | MEMS @ http://www.memx.com/ | Sandia MEMS Home Page @ http://www.mems.sandia.gov/ [07:00:47] i wonder how far i'd get by decent planning and selling my housa and cars and shit. [07:01:09] recycled material etc. [07:04:40] !morning all [07:04:41] ACTION wishes everybody in #RBOSE a wonderful morning and a great start in the day! [07:04:51] whatever i do, i need to make 2011 some kind of serious turning pint in my life, or i'll prolly break [07:05:00] hi lukas, slept allready? [07:05:15] *point [07:05:23] yes Caly :) I just woke up [07:05:29] lukas: i'm still up -_- [07:07:09] Caly, I have question about cost of food in your country: what percentage of average month income people spent on food in Sweden? [07:07:55] depends on income ofc. but the rule of thumb is 3000:- SEK per month per person. [07:08:19] but i'd say 1500 will suffice [07:08:41] so like 150€ [07:08:48] and up [07:08:57] 15% ? [07:09:12] sorry, it displayed strange way to me [07:09:19] well, people generally make between 10k and 20k [07:09:26] ok [07:10:14] i made 16k at the motorcycle shop, and about 10k on the last shit job. [07:10:34] understood [07:10:38] that electromechanic stuff. but they are infamous for shitty sallaries [07:11:18] In country where i live it cost of food and energy is about 75% of average month income [07:11:34] shit [07:11:48] even sicker than here then i guess. [07:12:11] poland? [07:12:29] germany? [07:12:34] i forgot... [07:12:39] yea, you will find cheaper food in Holland, Denmark, Germany, but average income per person is much lower [07:12:47] poland [07:12:50] right [07:15:10] lukas: so housing is cheap there then? [07:15:31] most here spend 50% at least on rent or morgages [07:15:45] fkn ludacris [07:17:20] i should go to bed, but i'm not that tired =/ [07:17:43] probably that is similar for people having loans or renting here as well, but i think percentage of population doing this here is still not as in other countries (i could be wrong here, would need to check) [07:18:33] mkay. well, people actually owning their own home not having large loans is very very unusual here. [07:18:36] Yesterday i seen a pie chart presenting on what people spent their salary. Seems that energy independence and own food would alone reduce costs about 75% as i said, and i right away thought about you working on the wind turbine. [07:18:59] mmm [07:19:21] i pay a shit load for electricity. more than on food anyway. [07:19:29] so insane [07:20:02] yes [07:20:04] when i can give Vattenfall the finger, my life will change alot. [07:20:26] :] [07:21:18] we have the same provider thought :| [07:21:50] those greenwashing greedy bastards. [07:22:03] building nuclear and coal all over... [07:22:23] DNS had it as well, but he switched to some "green" company, and his costs even went down [07:22:27] makes me even more ashamed of beeing Swedish. [07:23:14] yeah, i did to, but thing is, Vattenfall owns almost all the grids here, sp they charg for "transporting" non the less. [07:23:42] i buy wind energy (supposedly) [07:24:08] yes, i know, the charge fir transport 65-70% of total costs [07:24:14] for* [07:26:22] depends on consumption, for me its about 1/4 [07:26:44] Understood. [07:27:21] Self-sufficiency for everyone is the direction I look in. We all are way to much dependent on the control freaks. [07:27:53] absolutely, dont feed the trolls! [07:28:16] if we stop feeding them money, they can't get anywhere with their NWO shit [07:30:00] yea [07:30:09] Did i told you about my talk with one police inspector who works with industrial crimes? [07:30:48] no? [07:31:39] i bet he has some interesting stories though... [07:33:30] The guy said something like this in summary: programmers of free and open source are alter-globalists for us and maybe one day we will take care about them, we are here not to protect the citizens as one would think, but to protect the institution of country, and the country has to have exclusive monopoly for cheapest energy, cheapest drugs, cheapest food and cheapest production means. [07:34:25] sounds... honest [07:34:55] Yea, i know this guy for a longer time. [07:37:03] I just wonder if police officers have such a mindset... I just don't know what to expect. Hopefully we will help them understand what free and open source is about with hardware, software and the culture alternative to culture of thefts. [07:38:13] lukas: did you hear there is now electric component manufacturing developed for RepRap? [07:38:56] it's coming, and coming FAST. Those developing this stuff REALLY understands the implications of it. [07:39:47] You should have felt the air at FSCONS dude... Speakers was like "You do know you are the ones that will save this planet,right?" [07:40:17] i will try to get there next year! [07:40:26] And tha crowd "mhm" "uhu" and "hell yaeh.." [07:40:33] *** Joins: anne (anne@RBOSE-3b6b7445.adsl.tpnet.pl) [07:40:41] cool, that's a date! [07:40:46] morning anne [07:40:54] hi anne :) [07:41:04] !morning all [07:41:06] ACTION wishes everybody in #RBOSE a wonderful morning and a great start in the day! [07:41:12] and didn't know about that part, could you link me to more details about it? [07:44:39] i'll look it up.. [07:44:42] http://www.infowars.com/wikileaks-cable-reveals-u-s-conspired-to-retaliate-against-european-nations-if-they-resisted-gmos/ [07:44:43] URL Title: Wikileaks cable reveals U.S. conspired to retaliate against European nations if they resisted GMOs (at www.infowars.com) [07:44:43] Caly's URL: http://xrl.us/bicvs7 [07:46:02] btw Caly, i want to other people into the subject of free and open source solutions be able to access freely my workshop on local level (It's nothing like yours, but still some nice tools are there, and you inspired me really here), and i just need to find these people here [07:50:01] lukas: http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fhackaday.com%2F2010%2F12%2F15%2Freprapped-transitors%2F&h=0987a [07:51:41] lukas: oh, cool. Not many has a shop like mine for sure. I hope you succeed! [07:52:04] lukas: sorry, bad link. [07:52:20] http://hackaday.com/2010/12/15/reprapped-transitors/ [07:52:21] URL Title: RepRapped Transistors - Hack a Day (at hackaday.com) [07:52:28] ok, i somehow couldn't access it [07:52:58] that last one then? the first was som stoopid feisbĺkk lnk [07:53:42] yes, the second one from faceb00k [07:54:19] the one about GMO is scary [07:55:13] lukas: nevermind that link, use the one to hackaday. same same [07:55:47] lukas: indeed. i assume you know about codex alimentarious already as well(?) [07:59:46] http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs773.ash1/166325_181308891896435_100000519755138_548408_3828628_n.jpg [08:00:17] yea :( [08:00:37] Caly, not sure about codex alimentarious thought [08:03:08] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-17b59585.pool.t-online.hu) [08:03:24] the transistor production method looks very interesting! i would like to see parameters! [08:03:44] *** Quits: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-17b59585.pool.t-online.hu) (Quit: Leaving) [08:04:59] indeed [08:05:18] mkay, well, go look for info videos on the tube on codex alimentarious [08:05:28] there are some good ones. [08:06:04] ok, will check what it is exactly [08:06:17] you should [08:13:46] tucked myself into bed. let's hope i can fall asleep sometime before lunch at least... [08:15:31] sleep well Caly, thanks for information :) [08:18:12] still here for a while, trying to get tored enough [08:18:26] lukas: did you find anything about it? [08:20:45] Caly, I'm not looking for it atm (browser issue, i will need to switch later) [08:22:23] ah, ok. [08:22:54] would take me too long to explain, or i would. them vids do it well thou. 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hej [15:58:53] *** Joins: Diago (Diago@B38B54.890583.3F7180.BB1057) [16:05:26] hi Fat64 :) [16:24:19] -|UFO|- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [16:24:20] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Calyp [16:24:32] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-16ee9448.bredband.skanova.com) [16:26:51] krr lukas [16:26:54] feeling great? [16:29:38] *** Joins: halott (qwebirc@RBOSE-27a7482b.pool.telekom.hu) [16:30:57] Fat64, listening a lot to music, playing with family and chilling out, since seems that for these days even govs and corps gave up [16:32:02] there is over 10 000 free songs within a month and half on jamend0 :) [16:32:36] * lukas doesn't listen to commercial music [16:35:13] lukas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyLI8UVdTzQ [16:35:14] You4Tube 2[Title] Codex Alimentarius 2[Category] Education 2[Duration] 0:05:19 2[Views] 104983 2[Rating] 4.83 2[Uploaded] 2008-09-07 2[Description] Codex Alimentarius was created in 1962 as a trade Commission by the UN to control the international trade of food. Its initial intentions may have been altruistic but it has been taken over by corporate interests, most notably the pharmaceutical, pesticide, biotechnology and chem [16:36:28] there is free music on grooveshark [16:36:29] :] [16:36:30] thx Caly! [16:37:19] btw, i meant 10 000 NEW free songs, because the sum of them is right now over 273 000 :) [16:38:08] I think grooveshark has millions x) [16:38:16] but sure, I guess it's downloadable content? [16:38:58] ofc, with GNU/Linux right on your desktop = integrated download [16:39:35] but there is a difference between freely avaliable, and free as in released under creative commons share alike license [16:39:53] Fat64, are you talking about free as in freedom or are you talking about something else? [16:40:01] lukas: wich site are you refering to btw? [16:40:30] grooveshark is a closed community on many aspects [16:40:32] oh, and lukas, that codex video is a short short summary of her entire lecture. [16:40:37] :| so yeah [16:40:50] there you go guys: http://rbose.org/wiki/Music [16:40:51] URL Title: Music - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [16:41:00] ah [16:42:03] Rythmbox, Exaile, Totem and others have build in support for different services with music available as free for redistribution, download, and remix :) [16:44:19] Fat64, i don't like the perspective that someone may call me a theft when i share music with friends or listen it outside, so i say NO to that proprietary culture [16:47:15] i poland it was illegal to listen to music at public space if you haven't pay the owners of everything a fee for that, but now we have Creative Commons, so we can show them the same finger Caly was mentioning today ;D [16:48:54] x) mm [16:48:57] it's horrible [16:49:06] lukas: did i? [16:49:42] Caly, yes, i relation to Va77enfal, lol [16:49:47] ash [16:49:52] *ah [16:50:11] yeah. before i felt asleep, hehe, i just got up again =P [16:50:17] :) [16:50:41] cool, i use libre.fm, seems to still be the freeast one. [16:51:57] http://www.infowars.com/wikileaks-cable-reveals-u-s-conspired-to-retaliate-against-european-nations-if-they-resisted-gmos/ [16:51:57] Caly's URL: http://tinyurl.com/3yqghow [16:51:59] URL Title: Wikileaks cable reveals U.S. conspired to retaliate against European nations if they resisted GMOs (at www.infowars.com) [16:56:39] “Man owes his strength in the struggle for existence to the fact that he is a social animal.” —Albert Einstein [16:59:28] Caly, i read that article, this is amazing crap going on, i know few people selling food for animals, and they say that farmers demand GMO because they want to compete with imported crops [17:00:59] btw, i will look more into that codex, sounds really weird [17:01:44] oh yeah. [17:02:44] and yeah, many do think that's how it works, farmers are desillusioned by the propaganda just the same. [17:03:17] In my area there are now more ecological farmers than regular thou =) ...and growing. [17:03:27] I will join Tillsammansodlingen Mölndal this spring :D [17:03:35] and learn to grow organic stuffzzz [17:03:39] it will be great [17:03:39] Fat64: cool, link? [17:03:58] http://www.omstallninggoteborg.se/ this is their main site I think [17:04:03] URL Title: Välkommen till Omställning Göteborg (at www.omstallninggoteborg.se) [17:04:05] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community-supported_agriculture [17:04:06] URL Title: Community-supported agriculture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) [17:04:15] something like this then? [17:04:54] yeah I think so [17:05:17] you pay 200 SEK at first to join, then you work X hours and get discount based on those X hours on all veggies sold there [17:05:26] you work as much as you feel like [17:05:27] cool [17:05:36] sounds great [17:05:38] it's nice, since it's also very close to where I live. :) [17:05:41] mm! [17:06:06] get to know more peeps that probably can help with understanding growing more efficiently (and ecofriendly). ofc :) [17:06:16] btw, i read that the US has approved some artificial sweetner to be used in "organic food" now... [17:06:22] stevia? [17:08:11] man, they can really distort any fkn consept [17:08:19] Fat64: stevia is organic [17:09:30] here you go Fat64 http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2010/12/22/monsantos-neotame-molecule-allowed-in-usda-certified-organic-foods/ [17:09:32] URL Title: Monsantos Neotame molecule allowed in USDA certified organic foods | Food Freedom (at foodfreedom.wordpress.com) [17:14:41] thanks bro [17:16:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4OI0GUCI_A [17:16:17] You4Tube 2[Title] LOWKEY - OBAMA NATION (OFFICIAL VIDEO) - BANNED FROM TV (DOWNLOAD ON MAY 3RD!!) 2[Category] Music 2[Duration] 0:03:28 2[Views] 699843 2[Rating] 4.86 2[Uploaded] 2010-03-24 2[Description] Lowkey - Obama Nation (Official Video) Follow Lowkey on www.twitter.com/lowkeyuk To join Lowkey on Facebook click here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lowkey/14141524981 www.myspace.com/lowkeyuk The new single Obama Nation [17:30:18] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-93b0e296.pool.t-online.hu) [17:30:57] *** Quits: kman (kman@11ED70.39EA55.859DFC.C0D209) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [17:43:21] *** Quits: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-93b0e296.pool.t-online.hu) (Quit: Leaving) [17:53:24] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTEhbf92FdM [17:53:26] You4Tube 2[Title] Soldiers are not heroes. They are paid killers. 2[Category] Nonprofit 2[Duration] 0:09:24 2[Views] 31165 2[Rating] 4.62 2[Uploaded] 2010-05-24 2[Description] "Soldiers are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in our foreign policy." - Henry Kissinger, current advisor for Obama. There -- you heard it, soldiers, straight from the horse's mouth. And these are the politicians who want you to fight for them [18:11:34] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-93b0e296.pool.t-online.hu) [18:16:26] *** Quits: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-93b0e296.pool.t-online.hu) (Quit: Leaving) [18:21:34] *** Joins: Kebap_ (kebap@RBOSE-1378aeb8.adsl.alicedsl.de) [18:21:58] -|UFO|- Kebap_23 has joined on FREENODE [18:21:59] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Kebap_23 [18:24:26] *** Quits: halott (qwebirc@RBOSE-27a7482b.pool.telekom.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [18:24:48] *** Quits: Kebap (kebap@rbose.org) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [18:24:49] -|UFO|- Kebap23 has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:35:26] http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs766.ash1/165776_480404239779_166108344779_5432812_1681426_n.jpg [18:42:09] http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1388.snc4/164074_486848154014_511404014_5759489_7861439_n.jpg [18:44:39] http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs603.ash2/155525_10150157114394657_651679656_7876941_2663184_n.jpg [18:58:42] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQgNGFvSYYA [18:58:43] You4Tube 2[Title] Virtuoso ft. Slaine - Fahrenheit 911 2[Category] Music 2[Duration] 0:09:09 2[Views] 6665 2[Rating] 4.73 2[Uploaded] 2008-05-12 2[Description] Virtuoso ft. Slaine - Fahrenheit 911. [19:00:55] *** Joins: Atomraider (Atomraider@RBOSE-fbe85eb7.catv.broadband.hu) [19:06:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKIV2Ih51mk [19:06:22] You4Tube 2[Title] Virtuoso - Beatdown (Ft. Jedi Mind Tricks & T-Ruckus) 2[Category] Music 2[Duration] 0:04:54 2[Views] 405 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2010-08-12 2[Description] http://www.BigBangRecords.net Type: Single Format: Vinyl Date: 03/21/2000 Producer(s): Madsol-Desar & Insight Purchase... iTunes: http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/word-war-one-the-voice-reason/id259243528 AmazonMP3: http://www.amazon.com/Word-War- [19:06:38] * DNS in "chrismess" mood [19:06:41] ;D [19:07:05] !slap Billll [19:07:06] ACTION slaps Billll a bit around #RBOSE with some great ideas to make a better world [19:07:22] *** Joins: enive (qwebirc@A901ED.77CDD6.3706B0.DDC0DF) [19:11:28] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-93b0e296.pool.t-online.hu) [19:20:26] http://www.izles.org/lauryn-hill-mystery-of-iniquity-41.html [19:20:27] URL Title: Lauryn Hill - Mystery Of Iniquity Video - izles.org (at www.izles.org) [19:26:16] beautiful or wo0t [19:27:56] /join #music [19:28:38] http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/38435/Lauryn_Hill_Exposing_ILLUMINATI/ [19:28:39] URL Title: Lauryn Hill Exposing ILLUMINATI Video (at www.disclose.tv) [19:28:42] yea [19:28:47] *** Parts: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-93b0e296.pool.t-online.hu) [19:28:54] but i think this lyric is important ;D [19:30:39] well the site which posts the site is a bit strange but i couldnt find the vid anywhere else, it was deleted by youtube and other sites [19:30:53] *which posts the video [19:39:03] *** Joins: kman2 (qwebirc@E1A5C2.F3F03E.D9CDAF.0040FD) [19:55:01] hm, [19:57:51] mass deception \o/ [20:17:17] *** Joins: halott (qwebirc@RBOSE-27a7482b.pool.telekom.hu) [20:25:10] *** Joins: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-3855d092.tbcn.telia.com) [20:46:26] *** Joins: Diago_ (Diago@B38B54.890583.392BE2.9BF2F5) [20:48:26] *** Quits: Diago (Diago@B38B54.890583.3F7180.BB1057) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [20:52:23] guh why in the fuck do people use rar [20:54:16] Grits, I keep asking my self about that too [20:56:33] christ James Wales' begging is making me puke [20:56:37] "Like the thousands of others who write and edit Wikipedia, I don’t get paid a cent." [20:56:44] yeah right what a fucking joke, is he serious [20:57:58] it may be literally true, he may not draw a salary, but I bet he also has paid nothing for any of shit he presently enjoys [20:58:21] the "foundation" expense accounts can readily absorb his lifestyle, I'm sure [20:58:34] and what the fuck do they need $16 million for [20:58:35] holy shit [20:58:49] adding critical technology and people? [20:58:57] what a fucking joke [20:59:14] it doesn't cost $16 million a year to run a server farm for a huge blog [21:00:46] *** Joins: Mecha3 (Antilect@RBOSE-3855d092.tbcn.telia.com) [21:02:38] Grits, I don't know. It looks strange to me as well, bit from what I read, he used a word "wikipedia" and not "mediawiki foundation". [21:02:53] but* [21:02:54] yeah, wikipedia doesn't pay him anything [21:03:27] he's such a fucking weasel, I saw this coming from the first time I saw that site [21:03:44] *** Quits: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-3855d092.tbcn.telia.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [21:03:58] I checked out a few articles on it and saw how it was laid out with all the cross-links and links to external sources all through it [21:04:06] Google bomb waiting to explode [21:04:24] once people started linking to wikipedia pages the Google bots must have jizzed all over it [21:04:57] I knew this prick Wales would some day be begging for money, or advertising, or simply selling the project to an existing online encyclopedia [21:05:16] took me five minutes to figure out and ten years for it to happen [21:05:59] ugh and when you look at all the gibberish on it, particularly in the science articles, it just makes me want to throw up [21:06:06] now he says something like "we want you to help us protect wikipedia from advertisement" ... [21:06:07] it literally nauseates me [21:06:53] oh boy the fifth most used web site [21:07:12] and look at what most of the users are using it for, looking up statistics on rock stars or movie actors [21:07:28] examining the lengthy biographies of fictional characters [21:07:49] or pushing political agendas while ridiculing real science [21:08:38] Guys i need 16 million, i will spend it with respect :D [21:08:45] lol [21:09:00] Virtually every single science article on wikipedia either devolves quickly into incomprehensible mathematical and jargon gibberish or it's labeled "pseudoscience" by the flat earthers of our time [21:09:05] I don't have enough data to have any perspective on this atm. [21:09:10] hi Viper :) [21:09:23] hi lukas :) [21:09:48] it's of utterly no use to a layman except as a study of what not to do in education [21:10:11] I sure do [21:10:35] Grits, they have nice pictures :) [21:10:37] I've examined quite a few articles on wikipedia dealing with astronomy and physics, it's a load of rubbish for the most part [21:10:49] they can lick my nutsack [21:11:15] bunch of fucking retarded chimps [21:14:23] Zup dods :D [21:14:47] Yo Mecha3 :D [21:22:27] *** Quits: halott (qwebirc@RBOSE-27a7482b.pool.telekom.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [21:29:36] Have a great time guys, i'm off for today. [21:31:37] good night lukas :) [21:39:02] *** Joins: JoshStrobl (qwebirc@RBOSE-e909a62a.rioaccess.com) [21:39:18] Woohoo got my new HDD installed on my laptop. [21:39:29] Finally, after 5 1/2 months of no HDD in it. [21:39:42] wild shit [21:40:10] For those 5 1/2 months, I was using a LiveCD. [21:40:30] could be worse [21:40:38] Yes, it could be worse. [21:40:53] in the mid nineties my modem was actually a tin can on a string [21:43:39] hehe [21:43:57] With how crazy you are Grits, thats believable. [21:44:11] I'm not crazy, I'm hypersane [21:44:28] *** Quits: kman2 (qwebirc@E1A5C2.F3F03E.D9CDAF.0040FD) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [21:44:29] to the merely ordinarily sane it seems like insanity [21:44:46] Whatever you say bud ;) [21:45:11] that's just what a moderately sane person would say [21:46:21] an insane person would try to argue with me about it [21:47:37] you have to be careful around utterly rational people, they don't recognize ideas like sanctity of life or arguments from morality [21:51:19] I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the advice [21:51:56] anyone here programming pyhton ? [21:53:45] python* [21:53:45] Join the Developers channel [21:53:45] They can help you there...maybe. 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