[00:22:03] *** Quits: idk (idk@RBOSE-664672aa.bb.online.no) (Quit: Lost terminal) [00:23:44] *** Quits: Billll4 (billll@RBOSE-aacd56e3.res.rr.com) (Client closed the connection) [00:25:46] *** Joins: Billll4 (billll@E3DF5E.8CD18B.32CEA0.5E347B) [00:30:41] http://globalcommunityportal.com/team/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=144 [00:30:42] URL Title: Atlas Open Source Development Team View topic - RBECiv :: Guide (at globalcommunityportal.com) [00:52:16] Sell / Resell Rights [00:52:18] 1. The designer may sell a built model of such blueprint (not the blueprint itself). [00:52:19] 2. The buyer of such product may not resell it, even with modifications. [00:52:21] wtf [00:52:42] in other words you can make it clouse source [00:52:58] http://globalcommunityportal.com/team/freesoft.php [00:52:59] URL Title: Atlas Open Source Development Team AOSDT: FreeSoft Licensing (at globalcommunityportal.com) [00:56:25] No [00:57:04] The person can spend their own money, use the open source models and make "built" models (like making a Rep Rap machine) and sell it. [00:57:26] But its software not reprap umm [00:57:37] No, thats hardware section, not software. [00:57:52] you cant touch it or damage it break it [00:58:18] You can modify it, you can't just resell it. You can make a modified blueprint of it though. [00:58:24] It's under revision always. [00:58:30] Caly and I were going to have a meeting [00:58:33] Never got around to it. [00:58:38] qTeach is hardware? [00:58:41] No [00:58:48] qTeach is software. [00:58:54] qTeach use that license [00:59:10] Yes, FreeSoft license HAS SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE SECTIONS [00:59:22] Like all AOSDT software, qTeach is licensed under the FreeSoft license. [00:59:35] Yea, I'm well aware of that. [00:59:40] There is two sections in FreeSoft [00:59:45] "Hardware Projects" [00:59:45] What is wrong with GPL for qTeach? [00:59:50] and "Software Projects" [01:00:16] I don't want to repeat myself, so read the bottom part of FreeSoft regarding the difference. [01:00:31] hum ok [01:01:31] "2. The user or developer may not sell the software IF it is licensed under the FreeSoft license, however, it is allowed to sell the software if it is relicensed under a different licensing." [01:01:56] [00:52] in other words you can make it clouse source?? [01:03:42] you was right about hardware sorry i copy wrong part [01:07:11] Well obviously the user can do whatever they want if it is under a different license. Just like how they can change the license from something other than GPL if they wanted to, they can do the same with FreeSoft. Anyone can make something closed source. [01:07:39] However it is against the FreeSoft License to sell FreeSoft Licensed software. [01:07:54] that sucks "Anyone can make something closed source." [01:07:57] FreeSoft makes it so it's not just free as in freedom, but free as in cost. [01:08:13] Yes, it does suck. We can't change that...yet, either. [01:08:55] well if you can support that the thing was originally under GPL or something, then you probably can't close source it and make profit etcetera [01:09:00] but you have to go to court with it I guess [01:20:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jm-c9B2_ew [01:20:19] You4Tube 2[Title] 500 showers heated from one small compost pile how to tutorial 2[Category] Tech 2[Duration] 0:04:12 2[Views] 21038 2[Rating] 4.95 2[Uploaded] 2009-12-21 2[Description] http://www.permies.com Brian Kerkvliet from Inspiration Farm tells us about his little compost pile that provided 500 hot showers. Compost heat can, indeed, be captured to heat water. After the hot showers, you have a lovely pile of compost [01:22:48] *** Quits: Haseldow (haseldow@RBOSE-464b60ec.ipredate.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [01:24:49] *** Joins: Haseldow (haseldow@RBOSE-8f44355d.ipredate.net) [01:34:36] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6jNajDSx9M [01:34:37] You4Tube 2[Title] Soltrac. Solar charged battery powered electric crawler tractor. 2[Category] Tech 2[Duration] 0:01:52 2[Views] 4041 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2009-08-25 2[Description] Electric solar charged crawler tractor. Keep watching www.thefuelman.com for more details. [02:06:13] *** Quits: Naeron_1984 (Naeron_1984@RBOSE-a8162b74.pool.telekom.hu) (Client closed the connection) [02:06:25] *** Joins: Naeron_1984 (Naeron_1984@RBOSE-b5795d87.pool.telekom.hu) [02:22:27] http://www.renewables.com/Permaculture/ETractorSpecs.htm, [02:22:34] http://www.renewables.com/Permaculture/ETractorSpecs.htm [02:22:35] URL Title: RENEWABLES.com : Toward Sustainable Agriculture (at www.renewables.com) [02:25:49] *** Quits: JoshStrobl (qwebirc@RBOSE-b583b486.rioaccess.com) (Quit: Page closed) [02:38:24] *** Quits: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-fddf66be.bredband.comhem.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [02:45:00] *** Quits: Naeron_1984 (Naeron_1984@RBOSE-b5795d87.pool.telekom.hu) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [02:58:56] http://www.flyingbeet.com/electricg/ [02:58:58] URL Title: Allis Chalmers "G" Electric Cultivating and Seeding Tractor Conversion Project (at www.flyingbeet.com) [03:31:22] *** Quits: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-3855d092.tbcn.telia.com) (Client closed the connection) [03:58:43] *** Quits: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@5048B2.E9D5BE.E339CA.C53C66) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [04:39:07] *** Quits: Haseldow (haseldow@RBOSE-8f44355d.ipredate.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [04:41:10] *** Joins: Haseldow (haseldow@E1A5C2.984159.DF758E.818F91) [05:34:06] *** Quits: Haseldow (haseldow@E1A5C2.984159.DF758E.818F91) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [05:36:09] *** Joins: Haseldow (haseldow@RBOSE-3ccbc9b8.ipredate.net) [07:09:20] *** Joins: Sixth-Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-1afa9fb0.iburst.co.za) [07:35:53] *** Quits: Sixth-Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-1afa9fb0.iburst.co.za) (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [08:59:54] *** Joins: Sixth-Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-24b6eb3e.wbs.co.za) [09:31:31] *** Joins: kiscsuka (qwebirc@RBOSE-58a13693.pool.invitel.hu) [09:38:11] *** Joins: anne (anne@RBOSE-bcf14ca2.adsl.tpnet.pl) [09:40:23] Fat64 http://gen.ecovillage.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=102&Itemid=237 [09:40:25] URL Title: Ecovillage Map (at gen.ecovillage.org) [09:53:09] *** Joins: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9f8d8d9b.catv.broadband.hu) [10:35:55] *** Quits: anne (anne@RBOSE-bcf14ca2.adsl.tpnet.pl) (Connection closed) [10:49:07] *** Joins: absalom (absalom@RBOSE-dd0e21fe.77-105-204.netatonce.net) [10:55:45] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [10:56:45] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [11:05:04] *** Joins: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-b892627d.pool.telekom.hu) [11:05:13] *** Parts: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-b892627d.pool.telekom.hu) [11:17:37] *** Quits: absalom (absalom@RBOSE-dd0e21fe.77-105-204.netatonce.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [11:25:59] *** Joins: kman (erik@RBOSE-6198bb30.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [11:39:55] well if you can support that the thing was originally under GPL or something, then you probably can't close source it and make profit etcetera <-- I remember when we I was working with a open source group Burlex got pissed off and switched it from GPL to QPL making the source partially available while other parts were closed. [11:40:41] then somehow we went the route of making profit out of it but blah =P [11:41:25] *** Joins: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-3855d092.tbcn.telia.com) [11:51:46] GPL allows you to use the software and its code only as long you share it under the conditions of GPL, if you don't do it, you violate terms of the license and can get suited exactly the way proprietary folks are suiting other people for using their code [11:57:52] Development summary for last 24 hours: [11:57:53] 2 edits in the wiki http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges [11:57:54] To stay updated in real time join #developers #mumble #news #pms and #wiki channels. To learn more about the news system go to http://rbose.org/wiki/News [12:02:37] Lukas true but if your the orginator of the license and the code you have the right to change the code as you please although any orginal works of the code would still be order gpl, any newer works and any works under orginal maker of code can be changed to close at anytime here on in =P [12:03:16] although i'm not a lawyer i have experince license changes for very legitimate reason that would need to be change from GPl to QPL [12:07:21] ohai gais! [12:07:22] !hug all [12:07:25] ACTION expands her arms and hugs the whole #RBOSE :D [12:07:33] hi duxck :) [12:07:51] Anyone here who know how to grab rtsp streams? :) [12:08:13] I'd like to backup these vids in case they remove them from the site. [12:08:17] http://h20464.www2.hp.com/results.htm?SID=3368540&MEID=849941E6-296F-4FA3-B80E-B539C666B519 [12:08:18] URL Title: CSR Services Media Library - Media Search Results (at h20464.www2.hp.com) [12:08:42] tried this nifty little php app. http://bisqwit.iki.fi/source/ms-rtsp-dump/ [12:08:48] Billll4: thats true, however the original code is still available, and if the new licence is worse than the old, probably many people will stay with the old one and develop the old code further [12:08:50] duck, i will take a look in a moment [12:08:53] but it seems like they have blocked external connections to the stream [12:08:57] cheers lukas [12:10:18] Billll4, it can be changed only if all people listed in license agree to it, and that it will apply only to future releases, that code you released on gpl before has to stay GPL [12:13:15] true kebap, it depends I can think of a few times where the gpl to other license change was for as the code under a more restrictive license was actually betetr than the code under a gpl license, but in those cases it was done by the orginal developer and he knew the program inside and out eventually over time gpl development took hold and always beats out it's closed source counter part from my experince. Lukas you are right [12:26:14] *** Joins: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@5048B2.E9D5BE.E339CA.C53C66) [12:28:47] *** Joins: enive (qwebirc@A901ED.77CDD6.3706B0.DDC0DF) [12:41:38] Hi Folks [12:41:53] hi Viper [12:41:56] :) [12:44:47] Billll4 Closed or Open "beats out"? [13:02:01] roawr! :) [13:02:48] :D [13:03:11] I hate RTSP and WMV! :P [13:03:30] i hate flash! [13:03:41] flash > rspt and wmv any day of the week [13:04:07] *** Quits: kiscsuka (qwebirc@RBOSE-58a13693.pool.invitel.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [13:04:25] atleast with flash i can easily grab the flv stream and convert to something else more enjoyable [13:04:44] the rtsp is making it hard for me to even view the propriatary crap [13:04:52] duxck, i have a problem to get that stream, tried with mplayer and flvstreamer [13:05:12] yea, i have problem with watching it as well [13:05:18] mplayer -dumpstream failed for me as well, but it seems that is prefered method when it is real and not wmware [13:05:53] http://bisqwit.iki.fi/source/ms-rtsp-dump/ [13:05:58] that one seems the best way to go [13:06:02] guys i cant watch it and record LOL [13:06:12] but it seeems they have blocked most streams [13:06:23] *** Quits: Emerik (qwebirc@RBOSE-9f8d8d9b.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [13:08:06] jk [13:08:14] that must be a plane and fire! http://www.sott.net/image/image/s2/52189/full/2.jpg [13:08:19] ;) [13:09:04] lol [13:10:00] second building standing behind [13:10:25] ? [13:11:05] what's that? [13:11:21] ,acronym WTC [13:11:22] lukas: Error: Space required after the Public Identifier, line 1, column 47 [13:11:23] building 7'? [13:11:29] ,a WTC [13:11:30] duxck: Error: "a" is not a valid command. [13:11:40] !a WTC [13:11:49] 7 is standing as you can see [13:11:53] yeah [13:12:08] bnot for long though :PO [13:12:20] wtc1 or 2 turn into dust [13:12:28] it was a magic plane LOL [13:13:07] magnets, how do they work?! [13:13:10] energy required for a reaction is still a magic for many sadly [13:13:13] planes, how do they work?! [13:13:35] i like the pentagon insident more tbh, that was major fail [13:13:46] magic vaporixed planes! [13:14:50] haha [13:15:23] wait wait Maybe there was a bug in plane that did it A terrorist made BUG Whahahaha [13:16:52] *** Quits: Haseldow (haseldow@RBOSE-3ccbc9b8.ipredate.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [13:18:30] duxck, don't dare to think critically, go by believe that our govs and corps love you, and they are just killing people with passports and id cards from other countries, you cannot get in troubles if you have a magic US passport, whatever it looks like remember that smart people (read: with credentials from government) will tell you what to think and believe [13:18:54] *** Joins: Haseldow (haseldow@E1A5C2.984159.59B50D.2FA441) [13:19:41] lukas: indeed, I have started to move away from the US though, they don't deserve my attention since there are happening wierd shit in sweden atm, need to figure out what is actually going on over here now. [13:19:58] agreed [13:20:40] the scariest shit is though that i read more alarming news in international media then in swedish media that concerns only sweden :/ [13:20:41] http://www.sott.net/articles/show/220794-10-Modern-Methods-of-Mind-Control [13:20:42] URL Title: 10 Modern Methods of Mind Control -- Big Brother -- Sott.net (at www.sott.net) [13:20:44] Swedish media sucks [13:20:57] and now they have started to report more and more about terrorists and more scare news [13:22:14] duxck, that really sux [13:23:24] but i experience ignorance all around in my country, population in Sweden seem to be in much better condition knowing at least more [13:23:36] here people don't know about Wikileaks even [13:24:00] well, some people here do not know about wikileaks either [13:24:10] or they only know that he has molested som chicks [13:25:05] O_o [13:26:54] Swedish meadia has barely touched the embassy cables [13:27:09] even though they talk about it, they haven't reserached it [13:27:35] yeah [13:36:03] *** Quits: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@5048B2.E9D5BE.E339CA.C53C66) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [13:37:59] *** Joins: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@5048B2.E9D5BE.E339CA.C53C66) [13:39:35] "Is god really there? Yes, bible says so! How we know bible says the truth? Because god said so! Where he said so? In the bible!" -- nice circular logic [13:40:58] precious logic [13:41:01] "There is no such thing as atheists... Atheists do not believe in anything, yet when they go to the doctor they have FAITH that the doctor knows what he is doing, they cannot be surtain of the doctors skill and thus they do believe... so, atheists cannot be" [13:41:04] "Do our govs where involved in any weird issue? No, the media and govs' works say the were not! How we know those works say the truth? Because the govs says so! Where the gov says so? In the those works and media!" ...does it remind you anything? ;) [13:41:06] I like that one even more :P [13:45:37] This scheme works for thousands of years... I would like to see a prophet who would like to save us from this stupidity ;) [13:50:25] lukas it is Gov LOL [13:51:12] A government is the organization, machinery, or agency through which a political unit exercises its authority, controls and administers public policy, and directs and controls the actions of its members or subjects. [13:51:33] simply put, they are the controllers of the masses. [13:51:37] or supposed to be [13:54:26] and it doesn't matter what kind of head of state you have, there is always a government bellow the ruler(s) [13:54:43] monarchy, dictatorship, republic all have their governments. [13:55:32] Corporations control Gov so they are the one controllers of the masses [13:55:47] ,quote get 158 [13:55:47] lukas: Quote #158: "Control over your own life is freedom; control over others' life is power. I stand for freedom and against power. ~ Richard Stallman" (added by lukas at 10:16 AM, December 13, 2010) [13:56:05] gov = kissing ass BS talkers [13:58:09] Why so many people are interested in controlling lives of other people if only what we need to do is to not let anybody to control a live of somebody else? Control your life and not harm other people. Instead we take guns, tanks, still in white day with gov policies and force every individual to obey! [13:58:36] steal* [13:58:58] watch too much Hollywood [13:59:26] You guys should watch "tomorrow when the war began" [13:59:31] really good film [13:59:43] Do you have a link? [14:00:07] HD or not HD? [14:00:11] not hd [14:00:32] http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6059999/Tomorrow__When_the_War_Began[2010]DVDRip-MXMG [14:00:33] URL Title: Tomorrow, When the War Began[2010]DVDRip-MXMG (download torrent) - TPB (at thepiratebay.org) [14:00:43] http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6066688/Tomorrow.When.The.War.Began.2010.1080p.BluRay.x264-aAF [14:00:44] URL Title: Tomorrow.When.The.War.Began.2010.1080p.BluRay.x264-aAF (download torrent) - TPB (at thepiratebay.org) [14:00:49] thanks duxck :) [14:00:53] http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6065031/Tomorrow_When_The_War_Began.2010.720p.BRRip.x264.Feel-Free [14:00:54] URL Title: Tomorrow When The War Began.2010.720p.BRRip.x264.Feel-Free (download torrent) - TPB (at thepiratebay.org) [14:00:58] there you go, all kinds of res ;) [14:01:18] 700 mb is good enough :D [14:01:37] it might not be the best of scripts or actors, but the story is brilliant [14:05:22] duxck, is this a documentary? 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(herp@RBOSE-1113b09e.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [14:13:08] *** Joins: Viper (Viper@NetAdmin.RBOSE) [14:13:08] *** Joins: Ades (andersburlin@DECF35.678AB9.8725C0.319809) [14:13:08] *** Joins: missboty (MissBoty@shakes.her.ass.for.RBOSE) [14:13:08] *** Joins: Carbon (Carbon@RBOSE-27822b2c.wi.charter.com) [14:13:08] *** Joins: kman (erik@RBOSE-6198bb30.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [14:13:08] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) [14:13:08] *** Joins: Haseldow (haseldow@E1A5C2.984159.59B50D.2FA441) [14:13:08] *** Joins: obst (obst6@RBOSE-83d0ea30.kimsufi.com) [14:13:43] haven't been watching a non-documentary movie since about two years (maybe with one or two exceptions, but not sure), life today seems to me be more fascinating than any work of fiction :) [14:14:40] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [14:16:18] lukas: True that, but then again... you need to use imagination, and works of fiction breed your imagination [14:16:18] *** Joins: SoNeta 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[14:19:26] no [14:19:30] Since it has had such a huge effect on our world, i think everyone who argue against it should have read it [14:19:37] exactly like everyone who argue for it should read it as well [14:19:56] the one is for it should read [14:20:13] so they know what crap they are defending [14:20:22] well since a lot of them hasn't read it, you should read it and inform those who argue for it [14:20:24] duxck, I did (not whole), I was very religious in the past, it took be a while to understand how many crazy contradictions are there [14:20:34] took me* [14:20:43] ?? bible [14:20:44] bible[1]: Bible content: Absurdity: 1339 | Injustice: 1280 | Cruelty and Violence: 1018 | Intolerance: 647 | Contradictions: 440 | Number of people killed by god: 2 391 421+ [14:20:46] bible[2]: Annotated bible point by point and much more, here: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com [14:20:48] bible[3]: Details of killing here: http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/08/how-many-has-god-killed.html [14:21:22] lol [14:21:44] i do believe that everyone should read the bible <-- which one? [14:21:45] Viper, i think you will like this one ^ [14:21:49] anyway, i tend to have reading sessions out of the bible and quran at parties :D [14:21:56] Kebap, good question! lol [14:21:59] Kebap: all of them [14:22:04] http://www.thebricktestament.com/ [14:22:05] URL Title: The Brick Testament (at www.thebricktestament.com) [14:22:06] Well, the major ones [14:22:19] ^ that one is nice :D [14:22:41] http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Genesis_1 [14:22:42] URL Title: Genesis 1 - LOLCat Bible Translation Project (at www.lolcatbible.com) [14:23:10] =) [14:25:28] http://www.principiadiscordia.com/book/5.php nice religious book [14:25:30] URL Title: Principia Discordia - Page -2 (at www.principiadiscordia.com) [14:26:43] I know people+bible=Insane no i dont need to read it lol [14:26:54] Since it hasn't had such a huge effect on our world yet, i think more and more people should read it [14:28:01] well, what is insane? [14:28:09] a word [14:28:11] killing people [14:28:12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJnu4p_1bzI [14:28:13] You4Tube 2[Title] Dark Ages: 2010 Uprisings just a start, Revolt 2011 coming? 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:03:51 2[Views] 19563 2[Rating] 4.92 2[Uploaded] 2010-12-31 2[Description] For Europe, it was a year when the cash ran out in some countries. But one thing that wasn't in short supply was the number of angry protestors. As governments severely cut back on budgets, hundreds of thousands of people lashed out in response. [14:28:23] Viper: I mean, what is it to define a person as insane? [14:28:55] When you say "You are insane!", what exactly are you talking about? [14:29:15] do you know what "sane" means? [14:29:50] Out of insane? LOOOL [14:29:54] well, it is defined as mentally healthy, or having a sound judgement [14:30:30] but that doesn't say anything about the person you have classified as sane or insane [14:30:50] i'd rather call them unsane than insane [14:31:18] I'd rather call them "Same as I just a tad bit different" [14:31:40] to be insane is just a different same as you and me [14:33:05] btw, have you guys heard about the casseopaea experiment? :) [14:33:15] the one that are sure plane did it are insane "http://www.sott.net/image/image/s2/52189/full/2.jpg" [14:33:32] or think [14:33:51] :D [14:33:54] http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/ [14:33:55] URL Title: The Cassiopaean Experiment (at www.cassiopaea.org) [14:34:10] Viper: or missinformed. [14:34:12] not insane [14:34:19] or lack of interest [14:34:54] honestly I don't really care, was it the gov, was it al'qadia, was it some domestic CIA sanctioned operation [14:35:02] makes no different to me at this time in my life. [14:35:15] it was gov [14:35:32] there is no alqaida [14:38:11] If i bothered with looking at all the facts I might agree with you, at this time I don't think one way or the other. [14:38:56] create problem - show solution [14:39:10] create infection - show cure [14:39:10] even hitler use that lol [14:39:15] i know [14:39:55] what we know of hitler at least, if you read all the alternative history on WW2 it shines in a different light [14:43:27] *** Quits: Sixth-Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-24b6eb3e.wbs.co.za) (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [14:43:33] the question is who benefit from the "Problem"? [14:44:26] Gov? Alqaida? people? Corporations? [14:44:28] hitler didn't really benefit from ww2 [14:44:36] He did [14:44:38] coperations always benefit [14:44:38] He start war [14:44:53] Other way german people would not support him [14:45:02] same with 911 [14:50:22] i like this one a lot [14:50:25] Human beings are generally so overwhelmed by their everyday lives that they forget the most important thing about life itself: death. [14:50:28] None of us are going to get out of here alive. [14:54:27] duxck, you don't know that, because it's impossible to prove that something is impossible, you can only confirm something what happens, therefore one verified exception in science is enough to shake theories and render them obsolete [14:56:34] Indeed [14:57:10] furthermore there is nothing for sure, except the fact of absence of certainty [14:57:19] agree with you there as well [14:57:46] But with death, which is quite common in our lives, it get very little attention. [14:58:17] I think that the knowledge that I might die at any time makes me a much better person. [14:59:19] I think it is amazing that people die from falling down the stairs more often. 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[18:57:09] can't play on my wow account today soemthing is wrong [18:57:17] with blizztard [18:57:34] thats time killing game [18:57:48] funny thing is I setup my own wow priv server in the mena time [18:57:58] yeah it's addicting [18:58:14] fuked up on a few things have to wait to clear it up though [18:58:20] * Viper downloading a torrent made in 1970 LOL [18:58:35] ? [18:58:53] thats what file says haha [18:59:04] so it must be made in 1970 lol [19:00:24] Yes, it has to be since that cant be chagned! :P [19:09:28] lol [19:09:32] odd [19:23:54] *** Quits: duke (qwebirc@RBOSE-a91a3e3c.pool.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [19:37:19] *** Joins: Darren (qwebirc@B46EE4.9348F1.59739E.BB6CE6) [19:37:36] Hello [19:37:47] Hi Darren [19:37:51] Thanks for the links the other day DNS [19:38:08] Viper :) [20:16:40] *** Quits: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-8d176d4f.pool.t-online.hu) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [20:17:27] #help [20:17:29] -|UFO|- |UFO| has joined on PiratenPartij [20:17:35] -|UFO|- topic change by |UFO| on PiratenPartij: Welcome to the RBOSE Freenode IRC Channel! http://rbose.org [20:18:17] *** Joins: enive (qwebirc@A901ED.77CDD6.3706B0.DDC0DF) [20:18:37] *** Parts: |UFO| (supybot@Unidentified.Flying.Object) [20:22:36] *** Joins: Szputnyik (qwebirc@RBOSE-aa99607c.pool.invitel.hu) [20:24:11] do you need help Darren? [20:24:16] *** Joins: Simi (qwebirc@RBOSE-98870661.static.enternet.hu) [20:24:53] *** Quits: Simi (qwebirc@RBOSE-98870661.static.enternet.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [20:27:15] anyone recommend a good social bookmarking solution? Ideally you'd be able to rate links + discuss them + extra web3.0 functionality would be good + either it would be a platform or data could be easily exported??? Dont ask for much :) [20:28:51] cheers Kebap - think I always do..... specialist help.... was playing with IRC (all a bit new to me) looking for a web chat solution for another "group" [20:30:00] *** Joins: |UFO| (supybot@localhost) [20:30:03] *** RBOSE sets mode: +h |UFO| [20:30:48] webchat is for - for http://peoplesassemblies.wikispaces.com - [20:30:50] URL Title: 400 Bad Request (at peoplesassemblies.wikispaces.com) [20:32:32] <|UFO|> 11<11Viper@FREENODE11> test [20:33:52] *** Parts: |UFO| (supybot@Unidentified.Flying.Object) [20:34:39] bookmarking solution for me + recomend to members of "groups" who share my interests [20:41:04] *** Joins: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-5aa36246.biz.rr.com) [20:49:15] *** Joins: |UFO| (supybot@localhost) [20:49:18] *** RBOSE sets mode: +h |UFO| [20:50:11] Darren: irc is good for chat, and you can use a webchat for it, too :) [20:50:44] social bookmarking, for example http://www.stumbleupon.com/ ? [20:50:45] URL Title: StumbleUpon.com: Personalized Recommendations to Help You Discover the Best of the Web (at www.stumbleupon.com) [20:54:40] *** Joins: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-3855d092.tbcn.telia.com) [20:57:26] *** Quits: Mecha3 (Antilect@RBOSE-3855d092.tbcn.telia.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [21:04:08] -|UFO|- Viper has left on FREENODE ("Konversation terminated!") [21:04:10] -|UFO|- Viper has joined on FREENODE [21:04:11] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Viper [21:11:39] Cheers Kebap - was at a meet today where they were using Speeqe for webchat but am I thinking that IRC is a more "open" solution? [21:22:04] qwebirc :D [21:22:21] you are using it [21:25:05] "I remember how shocked I was to learn that about 60 million people died in WW II, but all I had ever heard about was the 6 million Jews. It was even more shocking to realize that Stalin had done away with - by various means - millions and millions of his own people. 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[21:31:50] odd [21:42:43] *** Quits: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-3855d092.tbcn.telia.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [21:57:50] *** Joins: Piciponi (Piciponi@RBOSE-dfe00ecc.pool.digikabel.hu) [21:58:42] helló [21:58:52] *** Joins: Cyclo_ (Cyclo@C5AB1F.517811.C1AA74.06E43B) [21:59:12] *** Quits: Cyclo (Cyclo@C5AB1F.517811.C1AA74.06E43B) (Client closed the connection) [22:00:04] Kebap - yes bookmarking like stumbleupon. I use delicious but would be good to have something a bit more advanced (do I ask for too much?) + delicious' future is not clear [22:00:36] heh yeah, asking is easy, but not to build it [22:01:03] I thought you might do it for me :) [22:01:53] .... na... wondered if anything was out there??? Have been looking and lot of choice head spinning..looking for recomendations - what people use? [22:02:03] *** Joins: Ibron (qwebirc@RBOSE-5dea8c29.pool.digikabel.hu) [22:02:36] *** Cyclo_ is now known as Cyclo [22:04:37] Viper - yes - qwebirc - just worried about the staggering I and I think other people at the same time were finding on freenode - 15-20 people on the channel [22:06:30] how are you guys [22:06:50] Hello Piciponi - I'm good thanks [22:07:02] :) [22:07:14] Hi Piciponi [22:07:14] goodgood [22:07:18] http://fuzzzy.com looks interesting for bookmarking [22:07:19] URL Title: fuzzzy - Home (at fuzzzy.com) [22:09:35] im checking this page [22:12:07] interesting [22:13:08] Hi Darren an [22:13:21] Hi Darren and Piciponi o/ [22:13:28] hi Calyp [22:13:44] Welcome =) [22:14:25] 07 [22:14:32] lol [22:14:32] Hi Viper ! [22:14:44] How are you Calyp? [22:15:10] fine, been working on my dreads =P [22:15:13] this chat is very quiet [22:15:16] -|UFO|- nick change by Viper to Out`Of`Control on FREENODE [22:15:33] well, at times it is, at times it's utter chaos =P [22:16:09] :D [22:16:14] where are u from? [22:16:14] But it's been quite idle during the holidays for sure. But that is to be expected ofc [22:16:25] <---Sweden [22:16:46] :) [22:16:52] how was your new year eve? [22:17:04] Hello Calyp [22:17:06] Decent ^^ [22:17:31] :) [22:17:33] *** Quits: kman (erik@RBOSE-6198bb30.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [22:18:16] what did you do [22:18:19] goin out? [22:18:27] To much junk food ofc. [22:18:53] Nah, i was at home with my girlfriend and a few friends. [22:19:30] :) [22:19:40] *** Quits: Ibron (qwebirc@RBOSE-5dea8c29.pool.digikabel.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [22:19:56] *** Quits: Haseldow (haseldow@E1A5C2.984159.59B50D.2FA441) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [22:20:21] I had / have nasty cold/cough felt dodgy so didnt go for a night of mayhem with friends in the city [22:20:41] ypu piciponi? [22:21:13] Was popping music, eating compulsively, munching candys and cookies and various kinds of liquids all night. [22:21:39] was quite for me too, i was watching some movie [22:21:47] hehe [22:21:48] :) [22:21:53] what else.. [22:21:59] *** Joins: Haseldow (haseldow@E1A5C2.984159.5EE570.4E6A23) [22:22:06] Darren are u from Sweden too? [22:22:38] Darren sounds American... (?) [22:22:53] the name i mean. [22:22:58] Na...UK [22:23:11] Close enough. [22:23:16] why names come up in red sometimes? [22:23:39] dont bundle me in with the Americans... :) [22:23:44] I'ts ehan someone says YOUR name, it's called high-hiting [22:23:53] see, Darren [22:24:00] aha [22:24:09] *when [22:24:23] *high-lighting [22:24:26] ? [22:24:39] correced my own spelling. [22:25:03] aha [22:25:04] *** Joins: Ibron (qwebirc@RBOSE-5dea8c29.pool.digikabel.hu) [22:25:39] so what brought you two here then? [22:25:39] so u re from UK [22:25:46] which city? [22:25:52] Piciponi: where are you from then? [22:26:08] hungary [22:26:13] ah, cool [22:26:29] ;} [22:26:53] 1/2 way between London / Brighton most of the time [22:26:57] good, i see you found your national channel as well =P [22:26:59] whats the weather like in Sweden? [22:27:11] ofc [22:27:26] !weather Östhammar [22:27:29] Weather for Östhammar, Sweden: -3°C, Current: Clear, Wind: NW at 6 km/h; Humidity: 94%; Sun: Partly sunny (-3°C|-12°C); Mon: Clear (-9°C|-14°C); Tue: Chance of snow (-2°C|-9°C) [22:27:42] :D [22:27:45] :D [22:27:48] !weather brighton [22:27:50] Weather for Brighton, UK: 3°C, Current: Mostly Cloudy, Wind: NW at 8 km/h; Humidity: 75%; Sun: Chance of rain (4°C|-2°C); Mon: Chance of rain (4°C|1°C); Tue: Chance of rain (6°C|1°C) [22:27:58] !weather budapest [22:28:01] Weather for Budapest, Hungary: -2°C, Current: Clear, Wind: W at 8 km/h; Humidity: 86%; Sun: Chance of snow (0°C|-6°C); Mon: Chance of snow (-2°C|-8°C); Tue: Chance of snow (-2°C|-9°C) [22:28:07] !weather miskolc [22:28:10] Weather for Miskolc, Hungary: -5°C, Wind: N at 0 km/h, Humidity: 84%; Sun: Chance of snow (-1°C|-11°C); Mon: Chance of snow (-3°C|-11°C); Tue: Chance of snow (-4°C|-13°C) [22:28:22] u won MR UK [22:28:24] :D [22:28:28] see, this network has some neat shit =P [22:28:33] As always ;) [22:29:25] DNS keept the bots cramped with functionality =P [22:29:31] *keeps [22:29:55] !g Miskolc [22:29:58] Miskolc
Hungary @ http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Miskolc&safe=off&lr=lang_all&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Miskolc,+Hungary&ei=U-4gTfyaLJO48gOtp_2TBQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ8gEwAA [22:30:07] ah. there... [22:30:34] .quote random [22:30:46] !quote random [22:30:59] ,quote random [22:30:59] Calyp: Quote #86: "All you need is love, love. Love is all you need. ~ The Beatles" (added by dns at 03:42 PM, August 05, 2010) [22:31:05] ah, there [22:31:08] :D [22:31:59] in #news we have a bot postig up a variety of news from diffferent [22:32:09] *different good sources. [22:32:12] .....crazy [22:32:31] in channel #wiki we have a bot posting up all changes in the wiki in real time. [22:32:35] winamp » Eminem - Let it go :: 03:56 [22:33:05] * Calyp spins: Promoe - Kkkampain [22:33:28] do you like venus project too? [22:33:42] parts of it. [22:34:24] I think Jaque is a con-man, and TVP as a project is a unrealistic approach, but a nice futuristic vision. [22:35:06] Jaques has said many a good thing, but he is full of flaws, and should not be idilized, as is often the case. [22:35:16] maybe but i would love to live in that futuristic vision [22:35:17] *idolized [22:36:14] sure, but it won't begin with building large cities. Living in cities it self might become unpopular and seen as unsustainable in the future. [22:37:12] Change happens all the time, all over the world. All we can do is direct in in the way we want for our selves, and hope that us leading by example will change others behavious. [22:37:19] *behaviour [22:37:31] amen [22:38:10] :) [22:38:34] Or you can take the PJ approsch, shove your thoughts down other peoples throuths and hope to change the world throu PR. [22:38:41] *approach. [22:38:45] For me its imprortant to try to eat my own dogfood as much as I can [22:38:49] Man, i cant spell for shit today.. [22:38:57] :) [22:39:13] kybdlxia ftw [22:39:16] :D [22:39:47] winamp » FankaDeli???? - Újra Eljön :: 03:59 [22:40:04] I've got crazy interested in democracy and economics [22:40:22] how old are you guys? [22:40:35] 24 [22:40:37] I'd say i was heavily into TVP for a whoule, but grew out of it and beyond. It's not at all a globally feasible sollution. [22:41:06] hI iBRON! [22:41:12] Grr.. caps [22:41:12] Hi [22:41:18] Hi Ibron [22:41:23] hi Ibron [22:41:27] 35 [22:41:27] Ibron: 24 <--- Me too. [22:41:30] *** Quits: Szputnyik (qwebirc@RBOSE-aa99607c.pool.invitel.hu) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [22:41:39] hello BranManFloMore [22:41:39] :D [22:41:44] What's up. [22:41:50] 38 [22:41:59] havin a little get together [22:42:00] :D [22:42:01] Do I win again.... or lose? [22:42:07] win [22:42:09] im 22 [22:42:09] :D [22:42:41] english people always win [22:43:01] :) [22:43:04] its not a game to win or lose lol [22:43:22] I'm very competitive thought.... [22:43:25] this time it was a gameeee [22:43:41] cant spell though [22:44:38] Darren: here's some keywords for you: Horizontalism, Meritocracy, Peerconomy and Freeconomy [22:44:39] this is kind of where much of my interests lie at the moment [22:44:41] http://etherpad.openstewardship.net/co-operate [22:44:42] URL Title: EtherPad: co-operate (at etherpad.openstewardship.net) [22:45:11] Calyp :) [22:46:09] http://rbose.org/wiki/Main_Page [22:46:10] URL Title: Main Page - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [22:46:19] * Piciponi is oped in 0/2 channels on RBOSE. (in control of 0/46 people) [22:46:51] O_o [22:47:19] os: Windows XP Professional, SP3 (installed on December 12 2009) :: uptime: 4h 23m 58s [22:47:31] O_O [22:47:34] :D [22:47:38] sorry [22:47:51] ?? windows [22:47:54] windows: format c: [22:48:01] :D [22:48:14] what shall i use? [22:48:17] ?? Linux [22:48:17] linux[1]: is a generic term referring to Unix-like computer operating systems based on the Linux kernel. Their development is one of the most prominent examples of free and open source software collaboration; typically all the underlying source code can be used, freely modified, and redistributed, both commercially and non-commercially, by anyone under licenses such as the GNU General Public License. [22:48:19] linux[2]: You can see the latest linux kernels by typing: !kernel [22:48:20] Sysinfo for 'Viper': Linux 2.6.35-24-generic running , CPU: AMD Athlon 7750 Dual-Core at 1350 MHz (5419 bogomips), HD: 462/815GB, RAM: 4936/5982MB, 321 proc's, 20.23d up [22:48:23] !help windows [22:48:54] !windows [22:48:55] I know winblows is defective by design. Check: http://rbose.org/wiki/Defective_by_Design [22:49:08] :D [22:49:12] wb lukas :D [22:49:19] hi :D [22:49:19] hi lukas [22:49:26] just connected :) [22:51:33] Into doing stuff locally also - http://unitednotions.org.uk/ [22:51:34] URL Title: United Notions | 01273 91 55 21 (at unitednotions.org.uk) [22:52:08] about 30 of us involved some more into the alternative economics side than others....... [22:53:28] http://rbose.org/wiki/Category:Social_concepts [22:53:29] URL Title: Category:Social concepts - RBOSE (at rbose.org) [22:54:51] :) [22:55:27] winamp » Inna - Amazing (DJ Feel Original Remix) :: 06:11 [22:56:09] cool Darren. [22:56:13] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-8d176d4f.pool.t-online.hu) [22:56:33] hi Fodi69 [22:56:45] Darren: Have you looked into permaculture and OSE anything? [22:57:39] been interested in permaculture for about 20 years - worked on a permaculture farm mid 90's [22:57:47] ah, cool [22:57:56] *** Joins: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-3855d092.tbcn.telia.com) [22:58:16] know about OSE too [22:58:40] Open Source Ecology, that's an awesome project, [22:58:42] http://www.renewables.com/Permaculture/ETractorSpecs.htm [22:58:44] URL Title: RENEWABLES.com : Toward Sustainable Agriculture (at www.renewables.com) [22:58:50] i liked this stuff =) [22:58:57] hi Antilect [22:59:24] yeah OSE is impressive [22:59:46] Always makes me think of a good frien I dont see much any more - [22:59:48] *** Joins: Mecha3 (Antilect@RBOSE-3855d092.tbcn.telia.com) [23:00:00] loves welding and engineering [23:00:08] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community-supported_agriculture [23:00:09] URL Title: Community-supported agriculture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org) [23:00:11] used to work with him at a biofuels coop [23:00:51] he built some crazy stuff [23:00:53] cool, me too, i'm into cars and bikes, been working in the motorcycle business for 10+ years. [23:01:11] and i have a decent workshop to play around in =) [23:01:40] :D [23:01:49] Ive worked 10 years getting diesel engines running on vegetable oil [23:01:52] or whadda ya say lukas ? [23:02:14] *** Quits: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-3855d092.tbcn.telia.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [23:02:34] Cool, i'm planning on making my Volvo 121 Amazon run on Ethanol from potatoes =P [23:03:01] ANd my old Crysler Windsor will be elecricuted... =P [23:03:17] taught myself how to pull ECUs apart and reprogram them so the engine parameters were better for running pure vegetable oils [23:03:28] Ah. [23:03:50] Calyp, I like how your workshop looks very much! :) [23:03:57] I wonder if megasquirt is useful for diesel engines at all.. hmm... [23:04:01] dont know crysler windsor? [23:04:12] well... hang on... [23:04:31] *** Joins: kman (erik@RBOSE-6198bb30.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [23:04:46] *** Quits: Viper (Viper@NetAdmin.RBOSE) (Connection closed) [23:04:57] -|UFO|- Out`Of`Control has quit FREENODE (Remote host closed the connection) [23:04:58] just seen.... crazy old yank thing [23:04:58] good evening kman :) [23:05:17] Evening. [23:05:28] oh, i didn't have that a good pic, but: http://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM/TheWorkshop#5484772616955914338 [23:05:30] URL Title: Picasa Web Albums - Calyptratus RBOSE - The workshop (at picasaweb.google.com) [23:05:59] the one to the left is my 1954 Chrysler Windsor 4D De-Luxe [23:06:31] *** Quits: Diago__ (Diago@B38B54.890583.102C41.74BC8B) (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~) [23:06:52] funny name, as the reald DeLuxe must have been New Yorker, which was the same car, but with V8 and more crome ect.. [23:07:45] used to share a yard with some blokes who worked on yank motors [23:08:05] you don't see mucj of it really, but it's a huge fkn car, the one to the right is a Dogde Dart GT 1963 for comparsion. [23:08:07] did rebuilds for people, paint, interiors etc. [23:08:17] cool. [23:08:21] they had some crazy cars [23:08:48] ones that jumped up and down and all that [23:09:12] see, that one is just an empty shell on a restored chassie and axles. No interior, no seats, mo engine or transmission, no nothing. Just all the body metal and most the cromed parts [23:09:32] crazy old things that looked like spaceships from '50s Sci-Fi.....Flash Gordon [23:10:22] so i think as i'd like to section the body and lower it over the frame, i might just as well widen the body at the same time, so i can stuff batteries between the frame and the body panels... [23:10:56] that way the President of the yanke car club won't have a car 8cm wider than mine either.. [23:11:42] Sounds interesting - I'm tired of working on cars though [23:12:01] ... for now anyway [23:12:11] well, this is just an healthy rust-free straight body to do fun stuff with, so.. [23:12:18] It'll be electric =P [23:12:29] Baclk of my truck is quite crazy [23:12:43] mkay? [23:13:23] I was thinking i might do both the cars in steam punk fashion acctually. Just for the fun of it. [23:13:56] :) [23:13:58] lots a bare metal with just clear coat. Rivets, brass, copper... [23:14:07] Nice [23:14:21] I've got a tipper truck [23:14:39] VW LT35Tdi [23:14:56] But made a demountable body for it [23:15:11] big box that goes over the cab [23:15:27] I live in the box :) [23:15:34] i weanna have leaf-spring suspended seats in the Amazon, bucket seats made of bare plunched aluminum =P [23:15:43] It looks crazy when its standing on its legs [23:15:47] *** Joins: Simi (qwebirc@RBOSE-98870661.static.enternet.hu) [23:15:54] haha, cool. [23:15:58] *** Quits: Simi (qwebirc@RBOSE-98870661.static.enternet.hu) (Quit: Page closed) [23:16:20] ali bucket seats :) [23:16:35] I've got a mate that does realy good artwork [23:16:44] yeah, like from old aeroplanes. [23:16:48] holdon see if I can find his website.... [23:16:49] cool. [23:16:58] :) [23:17:53] Before: http://www.pixbox.se/pic_show_id7612026.html [23:17:54] URL Title: Pixbox: Bikerwades album "Amazon" [5/6] (at www.pixbox.se) [23:18:15] After ??? http://www.pixbox.se/pic_show_id7612036.html [23:18:17] URL Title: Pixbox: Bikerwades album "Amazon" [3/6] (at www.pixbox.se) [23:18:54] That's how i wanna rebuild the Amazon =P [23:19:15] running it on moonshine xD [23:19:41] I have a bunch of fun parts to build a fun engine as well =P [23:19:56] and suspension. [23:19:58] *** Joins: Viper (Viper@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [23:20:19] -|UFO|- Viper has joined on FREENODE [23:20:20] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Viper [23:20:27] Good thing i got connections at Öhlins... hehe. [23:21:38] lukas: have you seen my photoshopped Amazon? [23:22:04] *** Quits: kman (erik@RBOSE-6198bb30.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [23:27:03] http://support.pcrm.org/site/PageServer?pagename=21day_vegan_kickstart [23:27:04] URL Title: PCRM 21-Day Vegan Kickstart Program: Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine 21-Day Vegan KickstartJavaScript Countdown timer test (at support.pcrm.org) [23:27:04] :) [23:30:14] Calyp, not sure, but busy atm with some code here [23:31:01] *** Quits: Cyclo (Cyclo@C5AB1F.517811.C1AA74.06E43B) (Quit: Leaving) [23:32:54] Calyp - http://www.joeplant.com/ [23:32:55] URL Title: joeplant.com (at www.joeplant.com) [23:34:48] think I'm gonna get him to do a crazy robot face on the box - behind the cab - so you can only see when its off the truck but then looks like crazy 4 legged robot.... the box is all bare aluminium [23:34:52] *** Quits: |UFO| (supybot@Unidentified.Flying.Object) (Quit: Ctrl-C at console.) 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