[00:28:07] Grits, hahahahaha [00:28:08] Good page :D [00:28:11] Great sarcasm there. [00:30:24] * BranManFloMore laughs at Caly's picture. [00:38:35] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVFftqJ5_r0 [00:38:36] You4Tube 2[Title] Zeitgeist Moving Forward Press Conference 2[Category] Education 2[Duration] 0:56:50 2[Views] 1298 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2011-01-23 2[Description] On 01/16/11, at the Tribeca Cinemas in New York, a press conference took place with Zeitgeist Moving Forward's director Peter Joseph, Jacque Fresco, creator of the Venus Project, with partner Roxanne Meadows, and the New York State Zeitgeist Movement co-coordin [00:39:12] http://www.multistalkervictims.org/raven1/restofsite.shtml [00:39:13] URL Title: Organized Stalking and Electronic Harassment [00:39:55] that gang stalking is basically what VTV does, he follows people to other forums and organizes mass complaints against them to get them banned [00:40:19] I've noticed. [00:40:56] -|UFO|- tropology has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:40:59] Antilect, I reviewed it: http://www.rbefoundation.com/grouptopic.php?p=22193#p22193 [00:41:01] URL Title: The Zeitgeist Movement: moving forward [00:41:13] guys, mercy.... [00:41:19] please stop spamming mainchan with that [00:41:43] LoL [00:41:52] Antilect started it. [00:42:01] * BranManFloMore goes back in other rooms. [00:42:02] I'm serious [00:44:12] -|UFO|- tropology has joined on FREENODE [01:09:26] *** Quits: Gambler (Gambler@RBOSE-teau9o.pool.telekom.hu) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [01:09:29] *** Joins: Gambler (Gambler@RBOSE-teau9o.pool.telekom.hu) [01:09:49] *** Quits: Kimsan (Kim@RBOSE-lrfah1.cust.tele2.se) (Connection closed) [01:12:28] *** Joins: anne (anne@RBOSE-rrlm54.adsl.tpnet.pl) [01:20:23] *** Quits: Gambler (Gambler@RBOSE-teau9o.pool.telekom.hu) (Connection closed) [01:21:12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2OksmJthZc [01:21:13] You4Tube 2[Title] Giant Japanese armored mech 2[Category] Howto 2[Duration] 0:04:24 2[Views] 865535 2[Rating] 4.02 2[Uploaded] 2007-02-11 2[Description] This is a video of a real armored mech suit walking around. I know what I'm I'm gonna be asking for next Christmas. I wonder when this robot suit is gonna include missile launchers and laser beams. [01:23:20] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qDo6ehxKds [01:23:21] You4Tube 2[Title] Crusher (CMU's military Unmanned Ground Vehicle) 2[Category] Tech 2[Duration] 0:06:08 2[Views] 284060 2[Rating] 4.66 2[Uploaded] 2008-06-07 2[Description] Crusher is a 6.5-ton autonomous off-road Unmanned Ground Combat Vehicle developed by researchers at the Carnegie Mellon University's National Robotics Engineering Center for DARPA. The robot can travel over extreme terrain, such as a 4-foot vertical wall, a [01:29:09] They have that thing set up to use an xbox controller, shocker. [01:29:17] or a smart phone [01:30:13] Scary. [01:30:16] *** Quits: ciacon (quassel@RBOSE-9ugo3f.unitymediagroup.de) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [01:30:43] *** Joins: ciacon (quassel@RBOSE-9ugo3f.unitymediagroup.de) [01:32:13] Grits, :) [01:32:15] SHOOT THE EYE [01:32:18] THE E Y E [01:32:51] THE GRITSer sees you. [01:36:08] *** Quits: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-397gbp.pool.t-online.hu) (Quit: ) [01:39:30] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wfRGKDV35E&feature=related [01:39:31] You4Tube 2[Title] World's smallest PISTOL!!!. Austrian SPY Weapon. #1 2[Category] Autos 2[Duration] 0:09:35 2[Views] 867167 2[Rating] 3.31 2[Uploaded] 2010-02-24 2[Description] 24 CARAT GOLD PLATED AND READY FOR ACTION! A similar version to mine can be purchased at Smallflare.com (website). Austrian 2mm pinfire guns. PISTOL SHOOTS REAL,,TINY BULLETS. Silver one shoots colored flares and I bought them about 20 years ago. Very w [01:39:40] can you kill someone with it [01:45:25] *** Quits: idk (idk@RBOSE-k3nhbi.bb.online.no) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [01:47:38] hi Fat64 :) [01:48:15] yo lukas ! [01:48:44] Fat64, maybe you would like to join #developers we don't talk there much, but you may want to have an input on things we talk about. [01:49:29] I hate being in so many channels xD [01:49:56] there will be more as we grow, haha [01:50:04] ^ [01:50:13] good that some people can handle it then :D [01:58:36] http://torrentfreak.com/google-starts-censoring-bittorrent-rapidshare-and-more-110126/ [01:58:37] URL Title: Google Starts Censoring BitTorrent, RapidShare and More | TorrentFreak [01:59:15] ?? google [01:59:15] google: sux [02:12:14] *** Quits: ciacon (quassel@RBOSE-9ugo3f.unitymediagroup.de) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [02:12:46] *** Joins: idk (idk@RBOSE-k3nhbi.bb.online.no) [02:13:42] *** Joins: ciacon (quassel@RBOSE-9ugo3f.unitymediagroup.de) [02:17:22] *** Quits: ciacon (quassel@RBOSE-9ugo3f.unitymediagroup.de) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [02:18:21] *** Joins: ciacon (quassel@RBOSE-9ugo3f.unitymediagroup.de) [02:31:32] *** Quits: ciacon (quassel@RBOSE-9ugo3f.unitymediagroup.de) (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) [02:43:45] *** Quits: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-uvec0q.tbcn.telia.com) (Connection closed) [03:20:54] http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-chicago-mayor-race0127-20110126,0,5484233.story [03:20:56] URL Title: Gery Chico wants to hire more cops, Carol Moseley Braun raises money in D.C. - chicagotribune.com [03:22:40] https://www.nytimes.com/cwire/2011/01/25/25climatewire-biofuels-of-no-benefit-to-military-rand-11643.html [03:22:41] URL Title: Biofuels of No Benefit to Military -- RAND - NYTimes.com [03:28:53] *** Parts: anne (anne@RBOSE-rrlm54.adsl.tpnet.pl) [03:47:49] -|UFO|- tropology has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [03:52:47] -|UFO|- tropology has joined on FREENODE [03:54:27] *** Joins: macmcnulty (qwebirc@RBOSE-b3ih0d.al.comcast.net) [03:56:21] #help [04:00:25] -|UFO|- GregorSamson has joined on FREENODE [04:04:25] Development summary for last 24 hours: [04:04:26] 7 edits in the wiki http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges [04:04:27] 1 activities in the pms http://pms.rbose.org/activity [04:04:28] To stay updated in real time join #developers #mumble #news #pms and #wiki channels. To learn more about the news system go to http://rbose.org/wiki/News [04:05:15] [21:04] i don't have a whole ton of experience with computers , in that way. i am trained to fix hardware in a lot of cases - and i work with audio and video software [04:08:02] hi lukas [04:08:18] :) [04:08:58] is there a working database that I can enter the above info into - letting the group know my skill set and level of willingness to be involved, ? [04:09:23] you can check this: http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=People [04:09:24] URL Title: People - RBOSE [04:09:33] I'd REALLY like to get involved in something with the RepRap [04:09:38] an old one is also here http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Resources [04:09:39] URL Title: Resources - RBOSE [04:09:44] ?? people [04:09:44] people: A social network diagram for RBOSE IRC, and a list of RBOSE contributors you can find here: http://rbose.org/wiki/People [04:10:16] but we plan to make something much smarter, working on that right now :) [04:10:39] awesome, i'm gonna work on that right now, tyvm [04:10:52] all is work in progress here, constant development and a lot to do if just one want to get hands dirty :) [04:11:21] here you can check what kind of ideas we want to put forward soon http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=Sandbox2 [04:11:22] URL Title: Sandbox2 - RBOSE [04:13:51] -|UFO|- GregorSamson has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [04:14:04] I think also worth to check http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=RBOSE:Policy and Why, How, What documents [04:14:05] URL Title: RBOSE:Policy - RBOSE [04:15:46] sweepy teim in sweeden [04:15:55] DNS: you should kick back some z's yourself :D [04:16:32] 0_o [04:16:34] Fat64, you up whole night as well? :) [04:16:41] sooort of ^ [04:16:49] !idle [04:16:50] Our Idle King in #RBOSE is hacked... without any word since 152 hour(s) and 50 minute(s) ^_^ [04:16:55] !idle missboty [04:16:55] DNS it seems that you are a bit nervous with your keyboard. I enabled a flood protection of 7 seconds. [04:17:01] D: [04:17:11] oral sleep [04:17:15] lol [04:17:20] !idle missboty [04:17:20] If you feel boring you should maybe try something more exciting than typing this trigger :-) [04:17:26] :-| [04:20:43] !tz fat [04:20:45] DNS, The time in Ekka Island, Inuvik, Unorganized, NT, Canada is Wed Jan 26 08:20:43 PM 2011 (UTC-7000) [04:20:54] !tz lukas [04:20:55] DNS, The time in 19-300 Gmina Ełk, Poland is Thu Jan 27 04:20:54 AM 2011 (UTC+1000) [04:21:01] heh [04:21:06] lol [04:21:47] !tz branman [04:21:48] DNS, The time in Braman, OK 74632, USA is Wed Jan 26 09:21:47 PM 2011 (UTC-6000) [04:22:03] guten nacht meine herren [04:22:07] und kein damen [04:22:13] 0_o [04:22:16] >_O [04:22:17] ๏̯͡๏﴿ [04:22:17] gute nacht fat64 [04:22:22] alles gut, alles gut [04:23:35] nein ist goed [04:25:24] macmcnulty, in the #wiki channel you will see all the edits in real time [04:29:35] cool, so my update to my user page is there ? [04:30:10] yep [04:30:20] love it man [04:30:46] *** Quits: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-i97fcv.biz.rr.com) (Quit: Leaving.) [04:31:26] so you guys are essentially working on the computer system that others have talked about , the system that runs an RBE (please don't kick me for saying RBE , fingers crossed) [04:33:35] i'm so incredibly happy to see some of these things coming to fruition. We live in fantastic, incredible times. [04:35:52] macmcnulty, we don't like that idea presented be the people you mentioned, we work on software to empower every individual, no central computers, no scarcity access points. Why the heck one would like to go to limited space in center of city if right now we can use pda, wifi, mobile phones and remote terminals? [04:36:59] right on, but the idea of using the positive things that technology can do outside of money , that is more what i am referring to [04:37:54] yes :) [04:38:10] if we have a transparent method based on science that leads to the conclusion that pda's wifi etc.. are the things that work best to meet our needs - that's what I'd like to use [04:38:28] and that absolutely looks like what you guys have been working on [04:38:32] i love it [04:42:12] macmcnulty, here is something what should give you a nice perspective about how we see development: [04:42:15] y0y0 [04:42:16] ?? ownership [04:42:16] ownership[1]: The system of ownership of ideas: [04:42:18] ownership[2]: http://dotsub.com/view/a29b44f7-bf4b-4928-a4a4-7a1359bceb55 [04:42:22] :-) [04:42:34] i will hop to bed better [04:42:42] ty, i will read it right now [04:42:53] it's a video :) [04:42:55] i'm about to go play some music in Second Life [04:43:01] to sleep "not too long" [04:43:06] ;-) [04:43:10] anyone else here ever been in that crazy matrix? [04:43:11] !night all [04:43:12] ACTION wishes everbody in #RBOSE a Good Night! (Even if missboty will not go to sleep, but DNS requested that) [04:43:19] gnite [04:43:22] DNS, i'm going to in a moment, want just solve last one problem in code [04:43:28] sleep well :) [04:43:35] thx u 2 [04:43:49] -|UFO|- DNS777 has quit FREENODE (Remote host closed the connection) [04:50:42] night dns [04:50:46] crazy matrix? [04:50:55] Lukas [04:51:06] yes? [04:51:18] if your on I have to recommend tyou listen to one of Mattg's broadcasts one ducation [04:51:29] he has some interesting ideas [04:51:41] http://4allofus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Fri_18.mp3 [04:52:00] ok, i will download it and check later [04:53:19] done, thanks [04:53:33] kk [04:53:40] :) [05:46:27] *** Quits: macmcnulty (qwebirc@RBOSE-b3ih0d.al.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [06:18:47] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-r8a.kr3.30.41.IP) [06:18:54] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-r8a.kr3.30.41.IP) (Connection closed) [06:19:17] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-r8a.kr3.30.41.IP) [06:21:29] *** Joins: Peter (qwebirc@RBOSE-7hvs56.no.shawcable.net) [06:25:07] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3y8uwtxrHo [06:25:08] You4Tube 2[Title] Fluoride Deception Part 1 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:09:37 2[Views] 169190 2[Rating] 4.82 2[Uploaded] 2006-06-30 2[Description] In this video, award-winning journalist Christopher Bryson examines one of the great secret narratives of the industrial era; how a grim workplace poison and the most damaging environmental pollutant of the cold war was added to our drinking water and toothpaste. [06:25:13] *** Joins: iamme2 (iamme@RBOSE-pim.peg.26.41.IP) [06:25:23] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-r8a.kr3.30.41.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [06:59:38] *** Quits: iamme2 (iamme@RBOSE-pim.peg.26.41.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [07:08:03] *** Quits: Peter (qwebirc@RBOSE-7hvs56.no.shawcable.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [07:10:04] *** Quits: Caly (Calyptratus@RBOSE.org) (Quit: Become the change!) [07:10:06] -|UFO|- Caly has quit FREENODE (Quit: Become the change!) [07:10:40] *** Joins: ciacon (quassel@RBOSE-9ugo3f.unitymediagroup.de) [07:19:22] *** Joins: Peter (qwebirc@RBOSE-7hvs56.no.shawcable.net) [07:19:56] *** Parts: diogenez (Administrator@RBOSE-q3g2og.ph.cox.net) [07:35:23] *** Quits: Peter (qwebirc@RBOSE-7hvs56.no.shawcable.net) (Quit: Page closed) [08:02:13] *** Joins: macmcnulty (qwebirc@RBOSE-vor2de.al.comcast.net) [08:17:04] Good morning everyone. [08:19:11] hello kman [08:19:29] you're one of the people I wanted to meet here [08:19:57] I saw a to do earlier in the wiki, can't find it now, but it had to do with PLA for the reprap [08:20:23] i am likely moving to an ecovillage in Missouri in the Spring [08:20:26] *** Quits: Nanos (nanos.org.uk@RBOSE-dl7.hqi.93.84.IP) (Quit: Leaving.) [08:21:18] I see. Perhaps looking into growing some kind of starch crop? ^^ [08:21:20] and would like to setup some experiments to produce high quality pla [08:21:23] yeah [08:21:43] Well, i will look into that myself once we finish the first reprap machine. [08:22:13] Atm, whats on the wiki and the pms (project management system) is all iv written. [08:22:29] could you help me to find that again? [08:22:36] the pms [08:22:46] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-g9g.4sp.30.41.IP) [08:23:00] http://pms.rbose.org/projects/pla [08:23:01] URL Title: Polylactic acid - Overview - RBOSE PMS [08:23:08] ty [08:23:09] Check information under "issues" and "todos" [08:24:25] Both of the processes i have linked to are large-scale industrial ways of synthesising PLA. I want to adapt them for smaller scale and give a comprehensive guide to growing the crop, harvesting, isolating the starch etc., etc. [08:24:45] But its one step at a time. I want the first machine to be rolling before i look into that. [08:27:16] Did you find the links? [08:35:49] i did, i was reading them [08:35:58] pretty high tech stuff [08:36:41] *** Joins: iamme2 (iamme@RBOSE-b66.a2o.31.41.IP) [08:36:43] I think you've got the right idea one step at a time [08:36:55] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-g9g.4sp.30.41.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [08:39:29] macmcnulty, its all about breaking it down to your level of understanding. Even with high tech stuff ^^ [08:39:44] for sure [08:40:37] i'm diggin in here trying to find what some are using as their initial resource. I've read in some undetailed articles that corn is used, but is that the best option? [08:41:37] nevermind, found it [08:49:00] kman , i'm new so I need to ask... [08:49:20] the pms, i'm reading in the issues section for Polylactic acid [08:50:06] *** Joins: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-fb2tr7.lavasoft.net) [08:50:38] actually i'm here http://pms.rbose.org/issues/86 [08:50:39] URL Title: Polylactic acid - Bug #86: Establish information gathering algorithms - RBOSE PMS [08:51:02] Data collection: - By the end of every two-day cycle, each member of the network will produce one article regarding the subject and provide reasons for choosing it. - By the end of every three-day cycle, a voting system [1] will be used to decide on what articles to keep or scrap. - By the end of every week (in commonly available time [2]) , all chosen articles will be discussed, and information derived from them stored in a database. [08:51:24] this seems like something I'd be interested in helping with [08:51:31] I see. Thats very sketchy. Only wrote that down without reviewing it. [08:52:00] Well, i was really interested in setting up a journal club on the subject and have weekly meetings here on mumble. [08:52:19] great, i'd like to be involved with that [08:52:27] If you'd like to do something like that, perhaps we could talk later this day. I have some reading to do atm. im afraid. [08:52:49] ok, np i'll just write an article tommorow, and we can talk about it then [08:53:30] Sounds great! Thanks for the interest! 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[16:42:41] hmm wake up! [16:45:55] *** Joins: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-d679nr.lavasoft.net) [16:56:30] *** Joins: Billll8 (billll@RBOSE-eb3hlc.res.rr.com) [16:56:33] *** Quits: Billll7 (billll@RBOSE-eb3hlc.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [17:03:38] *** Quits: Absalom (Absalom@rbose.org) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [17:15:58] *** Joins: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-d679nr.lavasoft.net) [17:18:44] anne, :D [17:18:52] * Antilect dances with anne and Fat64 [17:19:20] *** Quits: Absalom (Absalom@rbose.org) (Quit: Leaving) [17:19:40] hahaha [17:21:11] How are you today anne? [17:21:29] Sparkling? :] I'm tired like someone pulled an invisible 100kg blanket over my head. [17:24:47] good, at work now:) [17:52:51] *** Quits: anne (anne@RBOSE-5io9gr.adsl.tpnet.pl) (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 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[19:10:05] hello :D [19:13:29] How is it going with RBOSE? [19:15:45] its going quite well :) [19:16:05] still a small group doing things, but there are for sure quite a few projects with potential [19:16:41] Much like EOS then, I reckon [19:17:08] Hoping it's going well, and if we could help you with anything, just contact us [19:17:15] Enrique_EOS: some of us are thinking about moving out of the "current" system, to build some sustainable environment. That will also give more time to allocate on real projects [19:18:25] and if that place is built with as much local material as possible, and well documented for everyone else, it will be easier and easier for others to do the same [19:18:36] That is cool. We are working on the same thing (in Umea, we have an activity group which is aiming to realise such a thing) [19:18:55] thats exponential function done right :D [19:19:26] Enrique_EOS Hi, there is a problem [19:19:40] Alright. Share with me ^^ [19:20:11] http://www.eoslife.eu/ under Technate-wide news are some news of RBOSE [19:20:13] URL Title: European Organisation for Sustainability [19:20:34] Yeah, is there a problem with the link? [19:20:36] RBOSE is not part of Technocracy or EOS could you guys please remove that? [19:20:48] I will ask Andrew to do that [19:20:49] None talk or ask at rbose anything about that [19:21:00] thanks [19:21:01] I am sure there has been a misunderstanding [19:21:49] Enrique_EOS: are you from sweden? [19:21:53] Yes [19:21:56] me to :D [19:22:02] Hejsan :D [19:22:07] hej! :D [19:22:09] Många svenskar [19:22:11] there is #RBOSE.SE lol [19:22:37] So... [19:22:38] Enrique_EOS welcome to RBOSE irc chat :D [19:22:49] Enrique_EOS: yes join #RBOSE.SE to talk with swedish folks! :D [19:22:50] Now have I sent an email to Andrew [19:23:04] Oh, writing better English than Swedish [19:23:05] :D [19:23:23] :) [19:25:22] Anyway, I do not hope there are any hostility due to the misunderstanding [19:25:22] Enrique_EOS: problem i see in most alternative systems, is that the need for direct trades or indirect trades is still not solved. Most people try to figure out some more "fair" way to use currencies etc. And personally i think the valueset in people should be set, so that everybody understands that when one can do something for someone else just because its the right thing. Without needing to "have" something directly back [19:25:52] most of our projects here focuses on how to get rid of direct trades and setting other valuesystems in peoples minds [19:26:00] Well, the proponents for gift economics probably would agree with you [19:26:19] And on the small scale, it very well could function in that way [19:26:51] call it what you like, im just saying that instead of asking what you can give me for helping out, i should help you and see what you do with that :D [19:26:51] But one problem today is that many things are complex and require more than one unit of people engaging in the administration [19:27:10] Like for example infrastructure or the power grid [19:27:14] ofc [19:27:23] Moreover [19:27:29] and most resources are still kept scarce [19:27:35] We need to be able to track the overall capacity [19:28:05] To be able to allow people to produce in the most efficient possible manner [19:28:08] Anyways [19:28:23] I want to apologise for the inclusion of you into the technate [19:29:35] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-von.l1t.31.41.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [19:30:16] And hope for cordial relations between our two movements [19:31:27] Enrique_EOS: my own dream is that people would stop focusing on what flag they are under, and start setting up well defined projects and focus on that. We are not two different "movements". A movement is just a bunch of individuals with their own minds and ideas [19:32:07] i hope that everything can be project oriented in the future [19:32:16] Enrique_EOS, tjena :) [19:32:19] EOS is not about "pride in the movement", but about building a de-centralised, project-oriented structure [19:32:20] Allts dom r bara ljligt stingsliga. [19:32:26] Hej Mecha3 [19:32:30] Jag har inget emot att vara en del av andra saker med. [19:32:40] Fr Rbose r lixom ppet :) ven om vissa inte frsttt det riktigt nnu. [19:32:45] Oj. Heter du nåt på EOS-forumet? [19:32:47] Vi har ingen grupp. [19:32:54] det jag försöker säga ju :) jag är med överallt snart :D [19:32:56] Rbose r individer. [19:32:58] Ingen grupp. [19:33:06] transition towns, free software foundation, etc [19:33:08] :) [19:33:09] mm [19:33:19] Jag trffade killen i gbg som snackar om aktiv demokrati med. [19:33:43] Som transition mot ett mer teknokratiskt system :) [19:34:11] Okej, då är jag intresserad av de enskilda projekten :D [19:34:25] http://aktivdemokrati.se/ [19:34:26] Är nån av er av en händelse nära Umeå? [19:34:27] URL Title: Aktiv Demokrati | Partiet för kontinuerlig direktdemokrati [19:34:32] Tyvrr :) [19:34:34] Jag bor i Gtet :D [19:34:37] Okej [19:34:39] Oj vi r i engelska kanalen. [19:34:43] Kanske borde g in i den svenska haha. [19:34:48] Verkar vara TZM's huvudstad i Sverige [19:35:04] Enrique_EOS, please take our system messages from your website [19:35:24] Lukas: I have already written to Andrew to do it [19:35:29] and fuck EOS and technocracy! :D [19:35:37] thanks :) [19:36:03] cant we all be friends? [19:36:36] Som sagt :) [19:36:38] i'm not a friend with centralization, hierarchical structures and people seeking profit and control [19:36:38] Alla r inte mogna nnu :) [19:36:39] good communication is always the key, even if one dont agree with each other on something [19:36:54] no way kalken in this case :) [19:37:08] lukas: i'm not asking you to be. Im asking you to be on friendly terms with individuals :D [19:37:15] Where is EOS for centralisation and profit? [19:37:35] hi Enrique_EOS [19:37:45] I advise you to read the articles on the EOS forums in order to sharpen your criticisms, Lukas ^^ [19:37:47] Hi DNS [19:38:08] Enrique_EOS, read twice what i wrote if you don't get me [19:38:10] hm maybe other question where is EOS for decentralization for a distrusted network and try not to use money? [19:38:15] http://www.eoslife.eu/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=4&Itemid=95 [19:38:16] URL Title: Articles [19:38:21] I don't get you :D [19:38:26] I'm retaded :D [19:38:28] sorry [19:38:35] distrusted = distrubted lol [19:38:44] Hi guys [19:38:48] im a bit in a hurry and then i type too fast [19:38:53] :D [19:38:55] hi Viper, this crap again [19:38:56] hi viper [19:39:11] lukas i asked to remove our news from eos website [19:40:02] DNS: EOS is for establishing a network of autonomous projects which are pooling their resources together for the transition towards a RBE [19:40:16] fuck RBE [19:40:19] with money? [19:40:21] We are in fact even less centralised in both our outlook and design than most other RBE movements [19:40:34] DNS: Internally, the system is going to be moneyless [19:40:38] *** Joins: macmcnulty (qwebirc@RBOSE-b3ih0d.al.comcast.net) [19:40:42] Enrique_EOS: and tell me which free and open source projects eos are doing right now? [19:40:58] i will be happy to talk about projects :D [19:41:09] DNS: The principle is simple [19:41:11] but not about some "organization" stuff [19:41:19] Say that you have a bakery [19:41:20] because thats not going to change anything to the better [19:41:27] Someone else is having a powerplant [19:41:32] you gave them all money and you are full member :D [19:41:41] lol [19:41:41] The powerplant is giving you the electricity you need [19:41:54] You give the powerplant staff the bread they need [19:42:12] Externally, you are still trading with other groups (which are not a part of the network) with money [19:42:18] That is a must sadly [19:42:26] In order to be able to buy land and machinery [19:42:35] umm [19:42:38] Internally Moneyless [19:42:44] Externally, still trade [19:43:18] I still think that all the alternate directions are better than the mainstream ones :) [19:43:21] guys, can we agree on stopping our selves from collaboration this RBE, rbef, eos, thepenisproject and tzcult? [19:43:22] still.. Enrique_EOS can you answer my question please? [19:43:23] Yes. Atleast until people who are holding resource get it :D [19:43:32] But it's key to change to a direct democracy so that things are more exposed, and engage more people! [19:43:38] That way we can air our ideas more clearly. [19:43:42] If you mean open source software, then no [19:43:46] All of them :) [19:43:48] ^^ [19:43:49] I am not an expert on software [19:43:59] i mean open hardware projects as well [19:44:00] And we also sneak in an emergent form of decisionmaking, less static than the one today :) [19:44:02] I could hardly even manage a wordpress blog [19:44:19] Mecha3 huh [19:44:22] DNS, they do politics and control, what you could expect [19:44:39] the key to success is when knowledge is shared. And for that to happen everything has to be done with open licenses [19:44:41] What is you vision then lukas? [19:44:43] from the core and up [19:44:50] it's fukking social manipulation what is the goal of all this parties i mentioned [19:44:51] Yes, I am in agreement kalken [19:45:09] Enrique_EOS: :) [19:45:12] how can you share with all if you need to be "FULL MEMBER" ? [19:45:22] People who curse needs to fight more wars :) [19:45:34] You don't need to be a full member to share everything [19:45:42] All information is free [19:45:54] The thing with a full member is that you get more duties, not more privileges [19:46:01] And it costs 15€ a year [19:46:04] i agree, disagree, ok we are friends in chitchat, but our goals, actions and objectives say something different, i "love" this contradictory [19:46:32] *** Joins: Irwine (Irwine@RBOSE-ogd.7fq.240.89.IP) [19:46:49] Sadly, what is mattering in our world is resources, and the resources are in the hands of very few people [19:47:07] none own AIR [19:47:12] To achieve something, you need to have access to the resource base [19:47:12] :D [19:47:22] lukas: thing is that i dont mind working with a person i dont agree with. As long as everything is shared, and i can branch of any time i want, starting from that point [19:47:31] And that is why we amongst other things aim to gain some form of revenue [19:47:48] Not for personal enrichment, but to get access to land and resources to build something [19:47:54] but i feel too many people focusing on a name and "closed" groups. We dont need more groups in this world right now [19:48:01] *** Quits: Irwine (Irwine@RBOSE-ogd.7fq.240.89.IP) (Quit: Leaving) [19:48:12] Enrique_EOS, I think that's a great start. [19:48:15] kalken, we don't need to work with this crap directly, you guys may want to join micro$oft channels as well on other networks [19:48:30] I like both the free way, doing things on our free time. [19:48:32] What is your vision, Lukas? [19:48:44] No leaders [19:48:45] But I also like doing stuff collaboratly, under the system we have right now. [19:49:06] Leadership requires dominance. That is something to be feared subliminially. [19:49:08] Enrique_EOS, to screw your leaders and directors [19:49:13] Yes please [19:49:16] However, meritocracy isn't bad :) [19:49:20] :p [19:49:21] Atleast it's more scientific than democracy. [19:49:25] Screw me all over ;p [19:49:31] ^^ [19:49:44] (I am one of the directors) [19:50:24] just your name indicates that you are fighting under a flag. I would never use kalkenRBOSE in your forum [19:50:49] because im not RBOSE [19:51:06] I just used that name so that everyone instantly would know where I'm from because I had heard that there had been a disagreement [19:51:10] kalken, exactly, i cannot stand those people, sorry guys [19:51:23] And my purpose is to work out differences [19:51:24] that mentality for me is sick [19:52:35] even guys from rbef did not use nick_rbef lol [19:52:51] what is EOS? [19:53:29] its Technocracy [19:53:49] with our without money? [19:53:55] Without money [19:53:58] http://www.eoslife.eu/ [19:54:00] URL Title: European Organisation for Sustainability [19:54:03] ty [19:54:25] but they call actions today without money as "high risk of abuse" [19:55:21] ?? can you explain, or link to something that does [19:55:23] :  [19:55:32] We have nothing to do with the term "bureaucratic technocracy" [19:55:39] Enrique_FUKKEOS, people need water, food, shelter, energy, resources everybody can make, freedom, not your fukking new idea of merging corporate and governmental power, no control of resources by authorities, no new regimes [19:56:21] One of our original inspirations was the "technocracy movement", which incidentally also Jacque Fresco was a member of in the 1930's (I know Lukas dislike Fresco too) [19:56:36] one of you guys yesterday sent me to a link with Eben Moglan - that was something beautiful [19:56:52] ?? ownership [19:56:53] yeah Eben Moglan rockz :D [19:56:53] ownership[1]: The system of ownership of ideas: [19:56:55] ownership[2]: http://dotsub.com/view/a29b44f7-bf4b-4928-a4a4-7a1359bceb55 [19:57:45] yeah, that was it Viper, That's powerful stuff, Is that the kind of 'action without money' that EOS considers risky enrique? [19:58:40] EOS does not consider "action without money" risky [19:58:46] Where have you got that from? [19:59:01] "As you might be well aware, the Network of European Technocrats is proposing a future administrational structure governed through a technocracy characterised by functional sequences (informational nodes and channels) and holons (autonomous organisations)." [19:59:28] The administrational structure will not concern itself with what people are doing with their lives [19:59:39] What a toxic atmosphere :) [19:59:43] It is only existing in order to provide people with access to resources [19:59:48] And this is supposed to help us conquer the hearts and trust of people. [19:59:54] "This structure would be producing and conducting services after the wishes of each and every citizen through Energy Accounting. It would be kept in check by the merit that no one person controls more than her own area of expertise and function, thus creating a complex web without any clear command centre." [19:59:58] I'm ashamed of this emotional outrage. [20:00:16] I'm finished with this. [20:00:18] Mecha3: Im' used [20:00:23] in order to provide access to resources to people, won't they have to know, and thereore concern themselves with what the people are doing with the resources? [20:00:27] You can all stop, right now :) [20:00:29] No [20:00:38] WTF "Now we should discuss how we intend to manage the people." [20:00:38] macmcnulty, it's somewhere among this nonsense http://rbose.org/wiki/EOS [20:00:39] URL Title: EOS - RBOSE [20:00:51] manage people???? [20:00:55] Viper: Read the entire article [20:01:09] It is exactly about that we DON'T want to manage people [20:01:15] Actually, this discussion just transformed into an argument. What follows is a corridor of hatred, accusations, misrepresentations, misinterpretations, frustration, anger, closing doors, etc etc. [20:01:16] People are going to manage themselves [20:01:16] Guys, i dont like some of the attitudes. When discussion becomes argumentation, communication stops [20:01:18] So, I'm out :) [20:01:21] To learn something. [20:01:26] kalken, i play short ball with this crap, you don't know me from this side [20:01:45] I know since I wrote that article :D [20:01:57] lukas: i know and understand. We all have taken our fair share of "shit" from people trying to use us [20:01:58] So please Viper, read the entirity [20:02:20] but still, communicating without terms like "fuck you" etc, would be really nice [20:02:24] enrique, i am new to many of these concepts, i'm not trying to be confrontational , just asking critical questions in order to learn [20:02:27] because otherwise its not communication [20:02:59] Enrique_EOS My problem with EOS is that EOS is focused on How to controll. [20:03:22] Enrique_EOS and same is with most other groups. Contorl collect $. [20:03:39] We want to abolish money [20:03:50] Problem is not $ but control [20:03:59] What we are concerned with is the environment [20:04:07] Have you read the entire article? :) [20:04:23] It is not about controlling people, it is about NOT controlling people [20:04:33] ok i see it other way [20:04:34] we did that, nothing from our project is sold and no one has to pay for anything, dream further and contradict your wishes [20:05:50] Sadly, we are not living in a non-monetary system today [20:05:57] Enrique_EOS I would like to see more projects. And not stuff how to control people [20:06:09] We have lots of projects on-going [20:06:16] *** Joins: Absalom (Absalom@RBOSE-om47na.bredband.comhem.se) [20:06:30] And that stuff was not about controlling people, but to clear misunderstandings about whether we want to control people or not [20:06:48] ok lets talk about projects [20:06:53] you have a link for me? [20:07:27] We have an on-going oilgae project, to make bio-fuels [20:07:39] In Umea, we are planning to make a hydroponics garden [20:07:50] bio fule? oh crap [20:07:56] In Austria, one of our members is active in the Starfish project [20:07:57] hydroponics cool :D [20:08:22] In Slovenia, they are building a chain of projects to support one another [20:08:38] Problem is of course lack of manpower and geographic separation [20:08:56] But we have reached successes in Umea (where I am operating) due to our local group here [20:09:11] All local EOS groups are operating autonomously from EOS itself [20:09:28] Do you share info how to build this stuff so thers can use it? [20:09:35] (others [20:10:33] Yes [20:10:43] nice [20:10:47] For example in Andrew's blog [20:10:53] isenhand.blogspot.com [20:12:14] Anyway Viper, I wonder if you have read the entire article? [20:12:21] Since it was I who wrote it [20:13:27] what kind of license do you use? [20:13:42] I think you have to ask Jure or Igor for that [20:13:44] for blueprints and so on [20:13:58] I'm not very technically minded [20:14:03] So I'm in Relations [20:14:44] http://rbose.org/wiki/RBOSE:General_disclaimer [20:14:45] URL Title: RBOSE:Policy - RBOSE [20:14:59] when it fit here we can work together :D [20:15:35] I still wonder what was wrong with that article [20:15:44] It did not advocate cintrol of the people [20:15:49] :D [20:15:49] multi tasking i will check it out [20:15:51] sorry [20:16:15] Read more than just the introduction for the article :D [20:17:17] i see there about that crappy DR.spin lol [20:17:32] what exactly i need to look at? [20:19:05] DR.Spin? [20:19:26] Look at the text below " Now we should discuss how we intend to manage the people." [20:19:35] you know JF/PJ [20:19:38] And you should realise that we do not aim to control the people [20:19:51] http://www.eoslife.eu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=167:confederalism-democracy-and-technocracy&catid=35:social&Itemid=95 [20:19:52] Enrique_EOS' URL: http://tinyurl.com/6drolun [20:19:53] URL Title: Confederalism, Democracy and Technocracy [20:20:08] oh i was looking for projects [20:20:34] We used to have an archive section on the old website [20:20:56] http://imgur.com/1Obya [20:20:57] URL Title: No sir, I believe YOU are incorrect. - Imgur [20:21:12] But read the text below where you stopped and you will see that your criticism is more one of semantics than of content [20:21:20] lol Ades- :D [20:21:34] http://i.imgur.com/10MN3.jpg [20:21:49] Enrique_EOS ok thanks. But i am interested in projects [20:22:00] something every one can use [20:22:24] As said [20:22:30] We used to have an archive [20:22:39] With files and similar from research projects [20:22:49] But when we updated the website, it disappeared [20:23:02] that sucks [20:23:03] When we changed the website that'll be [20:23:05] Yes [20:23:14] I am working to get it back [20:23:21] And I will return when it is back [20:23:58] But, now I'm having to leave [20:24:01] Ciao ^^ [20:24:11] its just we can not work on copyright stuff [20:24:15] *** Quits: Enrique_EOS (qwebirc@RBOSE-ajq3t6.dialup.ice.net) (Quit: Page closed) [20:32:41] *** Joins: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-i97fcv.biz.rr.com) [20:53:37] *** Joins: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-hocik6.pool.telekom.hu) [20:54:02] *** Parts: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-hocik6.pool.telekom.hu) [20:59:53] *** Joins: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-hocik6.pool.telekom.hu) [21:00:21] *** Parts: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-hocik6.pool.telekom.hu) [21:02:59] *** Quits: plnoct (plnoct@RBOSE-d9irv5.pool.t-online.hu) (Quit: Leaving) [21:04:42] *** Quits: ebro (qwebirc@RBOSE-mg80vd.c-220.TvNetWork.Hu) (Quit: Page closed) [21:12:38] `geekquote [21:12:41] <|UFO|> Viper: Man.. // I need to get a monitor // yeah, stop guessing what's on the screen [21:12:53] lol [21:20:04] *** Quits: Ades- (andersburlin@RBOSE-5hj.9kd.99.82.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [21:22:47] `fortune [21:22:47] <|UFO|> Viper: Q: How many college football players does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: Only one, but he gets three credits for it. [21:22:53] `fortune [21:22:53] <|UFO|> Viper: Q: "What is the burning question on the mind of every dyslexic existentialist?" A: "Is there a dog?" [21:22:58] `fortune [21:22:58] <|UFO|> Viper: He is now rising from affluence to poverty. -- Mark Twain [21:23:10] `fortune [21:23:10] *** Viper was kicked by RBOSE (Stop repeating yourself!) [21:23:11] <|UFO|> Viper: A kind of Batman of contemporary letters. -- Philip Larkin on Anthony Burgess [21:23:22] *** Joins: Viper (Viper@NetAdmin.RBOSE) [21:23:25] lol [21:23:26] `fortune [21:23:30] <|UFO|> Viper: Q: How many Martians does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: One and a half. [21:44:16] `geekquote [21:44:16] <|UFO|> Viper: arafat's wife reminds me of miss piggy // she's THAT hot? // ok, a fat miss piggy [22:04:15] *** Joins: Kebap (Max@RBOSE-qfc3lm.adsl.alicedsl.de) [22:04:30] -|UFO|- Kebap23 has joined on FREENODE [22:07:23] *** Joins: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) [22:07:50] hi Cyclo ! [22:08:13] *** Quits: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) (Quit: Leaving) [22:08:19] *** Joins: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) [22:09:48] http://www.chilloutpoint.com/images/2010/04/amazing-non-photoshopped-pictures/amazing-non-photoshopped-photos-08.jpg [22:10:17] mecha3 its Gimped :D [22:12:12] Gimp is cool. [22:12:28] i havent understood gimp yet [22:12:47] Very similar to Photoshop. [22:12:54] no [22:12:56] It's not gimped, you are just cynics :D [22:13:12] Kebap: no <--- I think it is. [22:13:26] It's simillar to PS :) [22:13:30] It's open source, and it sux :) [22:13:32] ok its Inkscaped :D [22:13:44] Gimp sux? [22:13:46] BranManFloMore in theory maybe but i never found any functionailty in the place i would look for it in ps, so yeah not very similar in that regard [22:13:52] Based on features, that's what I meant. [22:14:28] *** Joins: Atomraider (Atomraider@RBOSE-8120d0.catv.broadband.hu) [22:14:58] Mecha3 open Source rockz [22:15:12] openoffice did a way better way of closing propietary software [22:15:21] cloning lol [22:15:30] job [22:17:32] libreOFFICE rockz [22:18:26] apple rocks! [22:18:34] i like red apples most! :D [22:18:52] apples rule [22:19:11] an apple a day and each doctor seems gay [22:19:45] lol [22:20:01] a green tea a day keeps a doctor awry [22:20:16] Green Tea :D [22:20:30] \o/ [22:20:40] *** Quits: Atomraider (Atomraider@RBOSE-8120d0.catv.broadband.hu) (Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 4546, sources date: 20100519, built on: 2010-06-28 07:30:12 UTC 4546 http://www.kvirc.net) [22:20:42] been doing it for days now, feels good [22:20:47] hi guys :) [22:20:53] * Viper drinking Tea [22:21:04] hi Kebap! :) [22:21:14] heya lukas :) [22:21:25] ,translate en de awry [22:21:26] Kebap: schief [22:21:44] ,translate de en schief [22:21:45] Kebap: wrong [22:21:55] ,translate en de wrong [22:21:56] Kebap: falsch [22:22:02] lol [22:22:28] *** Quits: macmcnulty (qwebirc@RBOSE-b3ih0d.al.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [22:22:45] *** Quits: Haseldow (haseldow@RBOSE-itdh61.ipredate.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [22:23:35] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_AP3SGMxxM [22:23:36] You4Tube 2[Title] Ballmer's developers... 2[Category] Film 2[Duration] 0:03:01 2[Views] 142674 2[Rating] 4.79 2[Uploaded] 2005-08-28 2[Description] M$, developers [22:24:47] *** Joins: Haseldow (haseldow@RBOSE-79f.5ub.182.93.IP) [22:26:02] *** Joins: rbose_ (qwebirc@RBOSE-tb0.66a.145.201.IP) [22:26:19] ih [22:26:28] Hi rbose_ [22:26:38] hi [22:26:44] im expectopatronum [22:26:54] to change your nick /nick YourNick [22:27:01] *** Joins: expectopatronum (qwebirc@RBOSE-tb0.66a.145.201.IP) [22:27:11] back [22:27:38] the called peter master joseph [22:27:44] i think its a bit funny [22:27:50] in their youtube channel [22:27:56] they* [22:28:12] :/ [22:28:31] screw that better check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_AP3SGMxxM [22:28:32] You4Tube 2[Title] Ballmer's developers... 2[Category] Film 2[Duration] 0:03:01 2[Views] 142674 2[Rating] 4.79 2[Uploaded] 2005-08-28 2[Description] M$, developers [22:28:32] lol [22:28:40] Over 300,000 views in what, 27 hrs? I think you've hit a nerve Master Joseph. THE REVOLUTION IS NOW! [22:29:09] expectopatronum please no more that crap [22:29:47] lol this is funnier [22:30:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyJI9xDUYV8 [22:30:40] You4Tube 2[Title] Crazy Screaming Christian at some jesus camp 2[Category] Comedy 2[Duration] 0:00:13 2[Views] 494046 2[Rating] 4.52 2[Uploaded] 2006-09-02 2[Description] This girl gets the power of jesus a bit too far into her soul. Maybe this was part of an excoricism, Im still not sure. jesus camp [22:30:45] *** Quits: rbose_ (qwebirc@RBOSE-tb0.66a.145.201.IP) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [22:31:23] ballmer beat that sorry lol [22:35:42] yes [22:35:44] hehe [22:36:40] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJi2rkHiNqg [22:36:41] You4Tube 2[Title] Richard Stallman - What is free software? 2[Category] Howto 2[Duration] 0:02:17 2[Views] 49702 2[Rating] 4.87 2[Uploaded] 2006-10-19 2[Description] http://www.MasterNewMedia.org Robin Good interviews Richard Stallman [22:36:49] i need to get myself that kind of beard [22:37:05] so i can be trusted [22:37:07] ^^ [22:37:28] haha [22:43:28] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSZZraHN0Yg&feature=related [22:43:29] You4Tube 2[Title] Richard stallman speaking abouth opensource 2[Category] People 2[Duration] 0:03:41 2[Views] 9280 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2007-11-04 2[Description] Richard Stallman is a notable programmer whose major accomplishments include GNU Emacs, the GNU C Compiler, and the GNU Debugger. 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[22:51:17] maybe start looking for that first [22:51:31] im not trying to build it [22:51:35] im wondering [22:51:58] i can build a house with wood and nails [22:52:03] and plant a seed and water it [22:54:41] im growing tomatos [22:54:50] to grow to slowly [22:54:57] cool [22:55:03] and one of the plants is dying [22:55:16] you can share on the wiki how to do that [22:55:31] well u plant the seed and u water it [22:55:32] :p [22:55:52] What kind of seed? How much water? 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[23:47:53] i planted apple seeds but something else could be growing [23:48:31] its looking more like a hemp plant lol [23:48:48] whahaha [23:48:58] *** Quits: Grits (Hominy@RBOSE-dkvesl.shawneelink.net) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [23:51:20] yes [23:51:23] it looks like this [23:51:26] http://www.dgsgardening.btinternet.co.uk/seedlinghempnettle.JPG [23:51:38] two curve leaves and one two denty leaves [23:51:40] curved [23:51:45] but being that a seedling [23:51:52] i think most seedling looks alike? [23:52:00] like most embryos? [23:52:46] two curved two denty [23:54:10] more of those are growing around [23:54:26] it was an old pot with good soil but dry [23:55:04] but the one i think is an apple tree is already like 30 cm or more [23:55:26] :D [23:56:12] the leaves dont look like this though.... [23:57:23] i dont know much about that. Maybe they change later?