[00:10:08] *** Quits: Absalom (absalom@rbose.org) (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) [00:26:59] *** Joins: anne (anne@RBOSE-e1od82.adsl.tpnet.pl) [00:29:57] * Caly just watched "At The Edge Of The World" about the sea shepard conservation societys actions against the japaneese whale fishing [00:30:17] great to see pepole taking care of bussiness [01:01:45] thanks Caly for recommendation :) will check it out [01:08:00] *** Joins: Servak (qwebirc@RBOSE-hhm.oab.72.95.IP) [01:09:50] Hello [01:10:14] Hi Servak :) [01:34:17] !poke DNS [01:34:19] ACTION pokes DNS in #RBOSE a bit with a good heart [01:34:44] are you testing it or not? lol [01:35:12] Health Tip for today from Dr. Wil Spencer: If you cannot afford to go to a doctor, go to the airport - you'll get a free X-Ray & Breast Exam, plus if you mention Al Quaede (El C.I.A. DUH!), you'll get a free Colonoscopy too! [01:35:40] lol [01:39:34] *** Quits: Servak (qwebirc@RBOSE-hhm.oab.72.95.IP) (Quit: Page closed) [01:45:09] http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/feb/10/european-debt-crisis-threatens-portugal [01:45:10] URL Title: Bailout fears for Portugal as European debt crisis returns | Business | The Guardian [01:50:48] lukas: returns? lol.... this has been obvious since almost two years now xD [01:52:55] Portugal will soon collapse as Greece did, and then there will be Spain, i'd say Portugal in the next few months, Spain within a year or so [01:54:38] that really sux :( [01:55:57] why? [01:56:25] It's what will get them back on track as to what matters in society [01:57:43] u need to buy gold or silver [01:58:05] that will keep its value, gold prices are soaring [02:00:34] expecto, people were buying that in the past, and when they sold it, they made a law that it is forbidden, and us gov confiscated back all of it [02:00:59] why you would like to make your life dependent on such shit? [02:01:07] Caly, i mean the pain of people [02:08:44] *** Quits: expecto (mau@RBOSE-f97.um6.138.189.IP) (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [02:08:51] *** Joins: expecto (mau@RBOSE-f97.um6.138.189.IP) [02:09:49] well yes if it was confiscated by governments would be terrible [02:09:52] after a collapse [02:11:08] i dont know if people would transcend to something different caly [02:11:27] after the great depression things stayed the same and worse [02:11:29] with ww2 [02:11:59] i think it will some groups of people [02:12:11] it could be much different though with the internet [02:12:50] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_dollar#Silver_and_gold_standards [02:12:51] URL Title: United States dollar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [02:13:09] "Gold coins were confiscated in 1933 and the gold standard was changed to 13.71 grains (0.888 g), equivalent to setting the price of 1 troy ounce of gold at $35." [02:14:11] expecto, happy hiding and using that in age of satellite scans [02:14:21] LOL [02:14:22] *** Quits: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-uvec0q.tbcn.telia.com) (Connection closed) [02:15:03] * lukas wonders how many times people want to repeat history [02:16:53] haha [02:17:02] what do u mean lukas [02:17:13] satellite scans [02:17:19] ¡ [02:17:21] ? [02:18:32] i meant tracking from space and using ground technologies to detect metals and other raw materials [02:19:56] simply screw culture of scarcity, pack your brain with info about everything around and make sure you can send copies of such knowledge to just everybody [02:20:50] i dont think gold is the answer [02:20:58] but it will raise its price [02:22:37] and then hyperinflation + confiscation, or other standard, and people did that in past, it worked only for few [02:23:09] yeah then its not good option [02:23:09] think about it, how a single oil paint can be worth more than feeding a nation? [02:23:11] i know [02:23:45] yes haha [02:23:54] ,quote random [02:23:54] DNS: Quote #91: "on first priority in design consideration is the full realization of individual potential in order to reach the second derivative: full realization for all individuals ~ Buckminster Fuller" (added by Kebap at 10:20 PM, August 05, 2010) [02:24:39] expecto: there is a fundamental difference between famine today and famine before the 1990's, it's called the internet [02:25:17] The three uprisings we've witnessed in just the last few weeks was all impossible without it. [02:25:30] oh yes .P [02:26:04] You don't control value of your money. But you can control values in your life. - as said one sociologist, forgot the name atm. [02:26:35] All three, inspired by, i would say, triggered by, each other, with Egypt as the latest in line, hopefully far from the last one [02:26:52] I don't see how you can call them uprisings, though [02:27:04] basically it's just innocent peaceful people being abused and killed by police [02:27:52] well, hat is what they all intended to end [02:28:06] what do egyptians want now [02:28:07] ? [02:28:11] free market :) [02:28:23] democracy and a bit of justice for one. [02:28:49] theyll be much better [02:28:52] right now it doesn't matter what egyptians want, they're going to get what they're given, and most likely be convinced they demanded it [02:28:58] well, a freer market i'd say [02:29:15] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-do5m12.pool.t-online.hu) [02:29:16] Caly, i would agree with Grits here. I haven't seen anything yet created out of it. Violence and war were always the methods to reset socio-economic situations. The methods might differ, but i will wait with my perspective about positiveness of these "raises" until people will do something good out of it. [02:29:18] Grits: yeah, well time will tell [02:29:43] *** Quits: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-do5m12.pool.t-online.hu) (Quit: ) [02:30:40] but again, all this is an effect of information and communication in the hands and power of the masses [02:30:59] I'm not sure. [02:31:31] I don't know if all those people know and understand how they have been played. [02:31:36] it's just as big a change as the printing press made, putting the church out of monopoly of information [02:31:49] lukas: sure they don't [02:33:58] the aspect of decentralized info sources is for sure nice! :D [02:35:24] * Caly spins: DubFX - 'Flow' ft. Woodnote [02:41:08] yes fuk tvvpp [02:41:24] im deconverted now .p [02:41:28] hehe [02:41:43] i made a post again there [02:41:51] ^^ [02:43:19] lukas is it true guys from rbose faked being peteer josseeph [02:43:26] typing stuff in his name [02:45:00] well i dont care [02:45:03] i don't know about anything like that, except a case when people here in this irc were playing with /nick command and joking [02:45:05] you meen someone endorsing RBOSE i guess... [02:45:20] *** Joins: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-do5m12.pool.t-online.hu) [02:45:23] *** Parts: Fodi69 (Fodi69@RBOSE-do5m12.pool.t-online.hu) [02:45:28] we don't have membership =P [02:46:38] *** Joins: test (test@RBOSE-e1od82.adsl.tpnet.pl) [02:46:44] Hi folks [02:46:57] hi Viper [02:47:02] :) [02:47:03] *** test is now known as GeorgeBush [02:47:11] lol [02:47:13] expecto, like this [02:47:20] call pentagon [02:47:23] lol [02:47:54] *** Quits: GeorgeBush (test@RBOSE-e1od82.adsl.tpnet.pl) (Quit: damn wikileaks!) [02:47:58] haha [02:48:16] or call sixagon ? :D [02:48:21] hi viper [02:48:27] Hi expecto! :D [02:48:30] .p [02:48:53] this is what i post [02:48:56] ed [02:49:00] People would rather try and voluntarily restore broken services like electricity or drainage than thinking in building new ones (Why not better build a farm? you'll wonder or most hungry people will) They will ask what advantages will the city systems offer them... tennis courts? an agricultural belt using hydroponics? Nah! people will say... ''it's better to collaborate building a community farm''. Oh wait but did I mention there will be a belt for [02:49:01] the production of goods? Anything you needed, for example a toothbrush, or a computer or a radio? ''Oh well, when you have the plans for those multi-functional machines and 3d printers you're talking about besides the machines before them to build the 3d printers you can call me again'' they would say. ''Oh, and medicine production? shouldn't we consider those designs first?'' . [02:50:02] ....what people would think during collapse [02:50:12] wont flood more .p [02:50:23] hehe [02:50:32] hehe [02:50:47] idea of collapse sux, we need build what we have, and not destroy everything and start from scratch [02:51:04] word [02:51:07] yep... that seems more realistic [02:51:50] expecto, regarding the irc, I would not call it faking anybody in any way, it's the irc culture, and if somebody doesn't get it, then he/she should make an effort to extend own perspective and learn more about it [02:51:55] i think in capitalism best things can be cooperatives [02:52:40] lukas: non there got it, and they finecomb logs to find arguments instead of solving the real problems [02:52:46] you know how it is [02:53:15] the post said ppl faked pj in ttzzmm.com [02:53:17] ,seen Jesus [02:53:17] lukas: Jesus was last seen in #RBOSE 6 weeks, 6 days, 6 hours, 48 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: lol [02:53:27] guys lets change topic [02:53:27] next faked ^ [02:53:34] right [02:53:39] sure Viper [02:53:55] lady gaga? [02:53:56] * Viper 10   14A Project NoOne 10 & 14USTM Radio Show 002 on ETN.fm 2011-01-24 4☣ 14http://toronto.etn.fm:8130/listen.pls 103Exaile10 [02:53:57] .p [02:54:10] no please not lady dum dum hahaha [02:54:18] lol [02:54:36] *pukes* [02:55:16] and such topisc do best in #music [02:56:03] the standing topic here should allways be projects. [02:56:12] so find a project to discuss [02:56:21] well my tomatoes are growing [02:56:26] well my tomatoe plant [02:56:26] it's called "not wasting time" [02:56:42] if u want to plant tomatoes u need temps around 20 C+ [02:56:42] cool, how u grow 'em ? [02:56:49] i water every day [02:56:50] nice [02:57:00] i grew plenty last summer, soon time so sow again [02:57:13] if the soil gets dry theyll start absorbing much calcium [02:57:16] outdoors? indoors? greenhouse? [02:57:20] outdoor [02:57:24] ok [02:57:29] but its a little plant yet [02:57:38] seems to grow quiet slowly [02:57:42] 2 plants [02:57:48] should plant more [02:57:50] i have pland boxes on my terrace [02:57:56] *plant [02:58:25] what do u have [02:58:27] i had 6 tomatoplants [02:58:28] tomatoes only? [02:58:39] do they yield well in boxes? [02:58:49] nah, lst summer i had cucumber and paprika (bell pepper) [02:58:49] pots* [02:59:06] and a bunch of spices [02:59:14] well in here u can plant year long [02:59:15] .p [02:59:22] nice [02:59:26] im preparing for planting too [02:59:31] where is there then? [02:59:35] mexico [02:59:45] here it's a meter of snow outside [02:59:54] hm [02:59:56] sweetness, lucky you [03:00:06] ure in norway [03:00:07] ? [03:00:12] close, Sweden [03:00:15] oh [03:00:30] have you got some big bugs in mexico? [03:00:39] well some [03:00:49] anne: u scared of bugs? [03:00:52] and also spiders? [03:01:00] me, no;) [03:01:04] =) [03:01:08] ive seen 2 of little spiders mainly [03:01:11] in my house [03:01:19] but not poisonous [03:01:25] 2 kinds [03:01:32] i mean not always [03:01:52] actually i think im seeing less bugs [03:01:55] :O [03:01:59] just thinking about it [03:02:19] yeah, well, that's the trend now, innit? [03:03:04] i think with bees [03:03:45] monocutures does that to the planet [03:04:41] insectesides rarely break down, they got eaten by other insects and animals in a loop where concentrations only get higher [03:05:36] havent seen as much butterflies [03:05:38] for example [03:05:43] or colibrees [03:05:45] same here. [03:06:11] colibri* [03:06:32] those we don't have here ^^ [03:06:45] hah [03:07:46] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Colibri-thalassinus-001-edit.jpg [03:08:44] i know what they are =P [03:09:05] haha yes, i thought so [03:09:17] beautiful [03:09:21] in that picture u can see its feathers look a bit like scales [03:09:37] yeah [03:09:43] biologists think feathers evolved from scales [03:10:06] i read p [03:10:08] :P [03:10:13] that would seem almost obvious [03:10:46] i'm an amateur herpetologist btw =P [03:11:09] i've keept and rehabilitated plenty of reptiles and birds [03:11:30] ohhhh [03:11:32] :P [03:11:36] thats cool [03:11:41] i had frogs haha [03:11:47] once when i was younge [03:11:49] r [03:12:00] shouldnve have done that, i know [03:12:09] birds and lizzards have very similar behaviours [03:12:11] i had them in a crystal box [03:12:15] i mean, socially [03:12:28] oh [03:12:29] .p [03:12:31] didnt know [03:12:42] yeah, they express themself in the same manner [03:13:05] evolution fascinates me, still [03:13:11] yeah [03:13:16] there was a time when i was really interested in evolution [03:13:29] i dont think its is natural selection only [03:13:55] i made a very speculative video of it... maybe makes some sense [03:13:57] did i show it? [03:14:27] dno't think i've seen it [03:16:17] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph_YCOIjNXk [03:16:22] expecto: DO YOU HAVE IGUANAS AS FAR UP AS IN mEXICO? [03:16:28] fkn caps.. [03:16:37] yes :p [03:16:42] there was one in my house [03:16:45] once [03:16:50] cool [03:16:51] theyre cool [03:16:53] huge [03:17:02] yeah, i've had a few [03:17:10] they like to sun bath [03:17:15] oh yeah [03:17:21] hah [03:17:26] in mexico they are eaten [03:17:29] ive never though [03:17:40] did u know [03:17:41] ? [03:17:49] would never eat one [03:18:46] https://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM/Fauna#5442366742773131282 [03:19:37] omg [03:19:43] they coexist [03:19:44] ? [03:19:55] that's my iguana "Arne" and my cat "Mary" [03:20:01] sure, they cuddled [03:20:03] ohhh [03:20:06] wow [03:20:12] is the normal? :p [03:20:19] well [03:20:28] it wouldnt happen if they were wild i guess [03:20:36] propably not [03:20:47] That one was such a charmer [03:21:05] they ever fight? [03:21:14] no [03:21:33] well, the iguanas got a bit agressive towards each others sometimes [03:21:46] over the favoirite hangouts =P [03:21:54] i had three [03:22:15] This on'e "Nici" https://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM/Fauna#5442366739637193986 [03:22:50] hey, note my spanish lexicon and guide to Mexico in the window! xD [03:23:21] looks like a dinosaur [03:23:23] ,p [03:23:23] expecto: Error: "p" is not a valid command. [03:23:26] haha [03:23:41] oh yes [03:23:42] this is "Dracos" https://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM/Fauna#5442366736801347202 [03:23:57] yeah there it looks very dinosaur like [03:24:13] looks happy lol [03:24:20] yeah [03:24:24] as if its smilin [03:24:25] g [03:24:52] they have very human eyes [03:24:56] nice animals Caly :) [03:25:13] yeah lukas [03:25:16] yep [03:25:23] here's a slider i still have: https://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM/Fauna#5477764861464013938 [03:25:44] Traschemys Picta Belii [03:26:05] do they shitt like dogs, just wondering? [03:26:19] not to be rude [03:26:28] more like birds [03:26:43] interesting question :) [03:26:51] haha [03:27:20] this is Doris, we babysit her every now and then when her owners go on travels... https://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM/Fauna#5477765392921825762 [03:28:00] there the feathers look as scales [03:28:28] This is where i'm sitting now, but the picture shows my friend William holding my Boa Constrictor Tequila. we still have her. [03:28:29] https://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM/Fauna#5477765766482964722 [03:29:15] yo great animals! [03:29:17] theyre not poisonous [03:29:18] ? [03:29:35] expecto: Boas? nooo, they're constrictors [03:29:50] ohh [03:29:57] they crush their vicitims right? [03:30:07] Boas and Pythons are harmeless if they're like under six meters... =P [03:30:32] i had a boa that was 3,40 meters, 12 kilos [03:30:41] haha [03:30:50] Tequila is more like 6 kilos [03:30:52] i guess [03:31:35] http://www.pixbox.se/pic_show_id9225017.html [03:31:36] URL Title: Pixbox: Bikerwades album "V�ra Ormar" [19/19] [03:31:47] tequila? [03:31:54] this was a green tree python, or Morelia Viridis [03:32:17] expecto: yeah, the Boa in the picture is named Tequila [03:32:22] ohh [03:32:41] i thought it could be a classification name lol [03:32:44] she'se having a bath now ^^ [03:32:50] ah, no [03:33:18] http://www.pixbox.se/pic_show_id9225252.html [03:33:19] URL Title: Pixbox: Bikerwades album "V�ra Ormar" [14/19] [03:33:34] ahw [03:34:46] this one i still got as well, a california king grass snake [03:35:02] named "Hubert" [03:35:32] OmNomNom... http://www.pixbox.se/pic_show_id9225255.html [03:35:33] URL Title: Pixbox: Bikerwades album "V�ra Ormar" [17/19] [03:35:58] they look funny when they eat the mice [03:36:29] we must think about pets in real community ;) snakes scare me more then bugs ;) [03:37:01] snakes are nice animals [03:37:02] haha [03:37:08] just not the fangers [03:37:36] anne: three "dangerous" vipers in Costa Rica [03:38:38] ah, this is me with the largest Boa Costrictor "Moa" http://www.pixbox.se/pic_show_id9225256.html [03:38:39] URL Title: Pixbox: Bikerwades album "V�ra Ormar" [8/19] [03:38:53] but iguanas are cool:) [03:40:03] this was our favourite ever, the Ball Python "Killer" http://www.pixbox.se/pic_show_id9225019.html [03:40:04] URL Title: Pixbox: Bikerwades album "V�ra Ormar" [3/19] [03:40:22] he once decided he waas full, and made friend with his sopposed dinner [03:40:36] so silly [03:40:47] but he ate that rat two weeks later [03:40:56] it looks funny [03:41:18] but he didnt eat later? [03:41:24] it [03:41:34] it was. the rat was really smart too, ha sat ON THE BALL PYTHON like he was a horse [03:41:46] surfed around [03:41:49] lol [03:42:11] two weeks later: http://www.pixbox.se/pic_show_id9225108.html [03:42:12] URL Title: Pixbox: Bikerwades album "V�ra Ormar" [7/19] [03:42:23] noo [03:42:32] batrayed it [03:42:39] lol [03:44:16] hows life in sweden [03:44:17] ? [03:44:51] so u like it? [03:44:53] do [03:44:54] * [03:45:08] no [03:45:13] i hate the climate [03:45:16] wanna change? [03:45:18] but besides that [03:45:21] haha [03:45:22] *exchange [03:45:26] yes maybe [03:45:28] .p [03:46:08] well, the people are really booring and egoistic and introverted... [03:46:20] why would u say that [03:46:28] well thats everywhere [03:46:30] lol [03:46:40] oh no [03:46:54] worse [03:47:00] http://www.pixbox.se/pic_show_id9224941.html [03:47:01] URL Title: Pixbox: Bikerwades album "V�ra �dlor" [1/9] [03:47:09] had a few of those =) [03:47:12] someone from holland was at my house the other day, she said people in holland just go to work and back to their homes [03:47:22] and i said... do u think its different here? [03:47:24] haha [03:48:11] anne: he'res the cutie i took my nick from http://www.pixbox.se/pic_show_id9224936.html [03:48:12] URL Title: Pixbox: Bikerwades album "V�ra �dlor" [2/9] [03:48:37] wow [03:48:38] Chameleo Calyptratys [03:48:38] that looks safer [03:48:42] :) [03:48:52] he was just a baby there ofc.. [03:49:10] http://www.pixbox.se/pic_show_id9225015.html [03:49:11] URL Title: Pixbox: Bikerwades album "V�ra �dlor" [7/9] [03:49:19] another cute fella [03:49:27] the other pic looks as if it has two heads [03:49:36] http://www.pixbox.se/pic_show_id9225016.html [03:49:38] URL Title: Pixbox: Bikerwades album "V�ra �dlor" [8/9] [03:50:03] someone would think ure living in the tropics lol [03:50:10] that's a bearded dragon btw [03:50:49] expecto: perhaps it's becous i'd really like to =P [03:51:24] Nici and Dracos cuddling: http://www.pixbox.se/pic_show_id9224935.html [03:51:25] URL Title: Pixbox: Bikerwades album "V�ra �dlor" [9/9] [03:52:24] how many do u have [03:52:25] ? [03:52:51] just the two snakes and a few turtles now, plus the cats ofc [03:53:14] there is two big fishes in the turtle tank as well [03:53:30] ah.p [03:53:52] theres not much wage disparity in sweden [03:53:56] right? [03:54:17] anne: this is how my Calyptratus (Jemen Chameleon) looks like as adult: https://picasaweb.google.com/CalyptratusTZM/Fauna#5481946292297627218 [03:54:58] is it half suspended in the air? [03:55:11] I notice a certain similarity ;P [03:55:50] expecto: well, propably way more in Mexico, but there sure are social classes [03:55:59] and homeless people and shit [03:56:35] whats it that makes swedens system fairer? [03:56:38] taxes? [03:56:47] or little wage disparit [03:56:48] y [03:56:50] ? [03:57:08] taxes for social benefits* [03:57:55] homeless ppl cant find a job? [03:59:29]