[00:06:19] *** Quits: kman (erik@RBOSE-u24rnu.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Quit: Ex-Chat) [00:11:54] *** Joins: kman (erik@RBOSE-u24rnu.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [00:12:12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PelTWCUmTsU [00:12:13] You4Tube 2[Title] Project Camelot interviews Jane Burgermeister 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:54:41 2[Views] 356125 2[Rating] 4.86 2[Uploaded] 2009-09-10 2[Description] David and Goliath might be an appropriate title for this video. Because Jane Bürgermeister, as a committed Christian, possesses an almost unreasonable amount of courage in her single-handed stand - against what many perceive as being a giant that few people are equ [00:22:38] LoL, here is a really old article that I think a lot of you might find highly entertaining :D [00:22:41] http://www.adequacy.org/stories/2001.12.2.42056.2147.html [00:22:42] URL Title: Is Your Son a Computer Hacker? [00:57:11] lol [00:57:18] "Most American families use trusted and responsible Internet Service Providers, such as AOL." < muhaha [01:00:08] LoL [01:51:21] http://divaboo.info/img/Shoebill.jpg [01:58:22] Whoa [02:38:16] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE7o9cPNnYI [02:38:17] You4Tube 2[Title] De Hooglanders - Ik Dacht Dat Jij Een Vrouw Was 2[Category] Music 2[Duration] 0:04:21 2[Views] 93792 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2009-06-22 2[Description] Even een paar leuke foto's opgezocht die wel bij dit liedje passen. [02:41:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y4_2Qa0QQs [03:09:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOjPBxFvtrQ [03:09:15] You4Tube 2[Title] Дыханье Тьмы 2[Category] Music 2[Duration] 0:05:10 2[Views] 44745 2[Rating] 4.76 2[Uploaded] 2007-04-19 2[Description] Клип на песню Кипелова "Дыханье Тьмы" [03:12:25] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeCx-km0JJk [03:12:26] You4Tube 2[Title] Несокрушимая и легендарная (Песня о Советской Армии) 2[Category] Music 2[Duration] 0:02:51 2[Views] 174521 2[Rating] 4.84 2[Uploaded] 2008-11-14 2[Description] http://kprf.ru/ http://www.sovmusic.ru/ Дважды Краснознаменный ансамбль песни и пляски Советской Армии им. А. В. Александрова Несокру� [03:12:27] Billll => #music :D [03:12:40] wtf is that lol [03:15:41] It's the song of the Soviet Army, it's called "Invincible and Legendary" [03:16:19] ,t ru en Несокрушимая и легендарная [03:16:20] Viper: Invincible and legendary [03:22:07] whahahaha what a user name http://www.youtube.com/megaadolfhitler1488 [03:22:09] URL Title: YouTube - MegaAdolfHitler1488s kanal [03:31:01] LoL! [03:32:08] is there a miniadolfhitler? [03:38:37] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEAs0nwFByY [03:38:38] You4Tube 2[Title] Antilect - The world in You; Introspective piano dreamscape 2[Category] Music 2[Duration] 0:02:28 2[Views] 22 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2011-03-01 2[Description] The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. ~Albert Einstein Who are we? Where are we? Where did all this come from? If you cry out into the world, will anybody answer your call? I thi [03:43:59] *** Quits: Mecha3 (Antilect@RBOSE-uvec0q.tbcn.telia.com) (Connection closed) [04:35:42] *** Quits: BranManFloMore (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-i97fcv.biz.rr.com) (Quit: Leaving.) [04:53:20] I'm having a bit of fun with Graphviz ^^ [04:53:22] http://rbose.org/wiki/Calys_map [04:53:25] URL Title: Calys map - RBOSE [05:01:33] http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_rupert_murdoch_3/?cl=967895398&v=8529 [05:01:34] URL Title: Avaaz - UK: STOP RUPERT MURDOCH [05:11:43] *** Quits: Grits (Hominy@RBOSE-tiieh4.client.mchsi.com) (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) [05:37:03] http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2010/10/17/shuttleworth-admits-it.html [05:37:04] URL Title: Canonical, Ltd. Finally On Record Seeking Open Core - Bradley M. Kuhn ( Brad ) ( bkuhn ) [05:45:19] http://planka.nu/nyheter/2011/03/01/allman-nolltaxedag-pa-lordag-53 - hade varit kul att se i stockholm :-D [05:45:20] URL Title: Allmän nolltaxedag på lördag 5/3 | Planka.nu [05:56:36] dammit. wrong chan again. [05:57:33] Caly: haha, a bit hard to follow but looks nice. shall remember the prog name. [06:04:06] *** Joins: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-fj1b0o.mweb.co.za) [06:04:17] *** Quits: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-fj1b0o.mweb.co.za) (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [06:15:34] *** Joins: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-fj1b0o.mweb.co.za) [06:25:15] *** Quits: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-fj1b0o.mweb.co.za) (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [06:27:50] *** Joins: expecto (mau@RBOSE-dng.h9t.226.189.IP) [06:28:03] hello [06:28:31] hi expecto [06:28:46] hi viper :) [06:29:10] is money that bad? [06:29:58] ? [06:30:07] Yes $ is bad so give it to me :D [06:30:11] lol [06:30:13] lol [06:31:11] could a money less society work [06:31:29] i dont know [06:32:21] expecto $ is not the problem. Control is problem [06:32:35] Maybe fix the problem ? [06:32:37] well a fact is money do not work [06:32:40] people do [06:32:59] Poor people work DNS not all [06:33:14] hehe [06:33:17] or lazy asses [06:33:26] bill gates works [06:33:31] no he dont [06:33:42] bill gates works on his anus hole [06:34:04] umm [06:34:15] im so lost [06:34:17] sorry [06:34:19] :D [06:34:41] expecto what is "work" ? [06:34:48] or "working" [06:34:59] its like creation [06:35:20] cheating on people? talking crapp? Selling crap? Sitting all day in office sighing papers? [06:35:46] work to get teh money from the back [06:35:49] *bank [06:35:52] lol [06:36:25] banks dont have $ they create it out of nothing [06:36:37] so you work for NOTHING hah [06:36:46] yea i was jk [06:36:48] `fortune [06:36:49] <|UFO|> Viper: Noise proves nothing. Often a hen who has merely laid an egg cackles as if she laid an asteroid. -- Mark Twain [06:37:08] whahaha [06:37:08] they expand the reserve [06:37:18] banks but so theres capital for new projects [06:37:44] money should be created upon a project if it will generate goods and services [06:38:01] expecto check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A [06:38:02] You4Tube 2[Title] The Story of Your Enslavement 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:13:10 2[Views] 350975 2[Rating] 4.80 2[Uploaded] 2010-04-17 2[Description] We can only be kept in the cages we do not see. A brief history of human enslavement - up to and including your own. From Freedomain Radio, the largest and most popular philosophy conversation in the world. http://www.freedomainradio.com Text: http://www.fdrurl.com/slavestory [06:38:31] we could have a peoples bank, if u wanted money to start a project, that money can be create out of air [06:38:48] because it will be represented in real value in the servies ur project will generate4 [06:39:32] if u give someone 1000 for a project out of thin air but with that he will create more services then theres no inflation [06:40:01] because while money is created out of nothing it is making real physical stuff [06:40:06] expecto if i give Africa 1000.0000 People wont live better [06:40:15] in there [06:40:23] if it was invested in good things, maybe yes [06:40:25] you cant solve problems with $ [06:41:08] every state, every town should have a bank where money can be created out of thin air [06:41:17] but owned by the people [06:41:18] and then? [06:41:26] so if u have a good project money is given [06:41:31] without interest [06:41:38] or even without need to repay [06:41:46] expecto so every one have 1.000.000 $ and all problems solved? [06:41:47] if ur money will be made into a project [06:42:02] no, of course not [06:42:07] doesnt work like that [06:42:36] u wouldnt be given money just like that [06:42:43] Sysinfo for 'Zeitmaschine': Linux 2.6.35-27-generic running , CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)DualCPUE2180@2.00GHz at 1200 MHz (3999 bogomips), HD: 27/49GB, RAM: 923/1754MB, 167 proc's, 24.17min up [06:42:47] then there would be no sense in it [06:43:03] money would have no value then [06:43:34] but if someone wanted 10000 to start a project of agriculture to grow good food for people [06:43:43] he could go to a bank and be given no money [06:43:50] cuz he doesnt meet the requirements [06:44:00] or be given money with high interest rates [06:44:10] INSTEAD [06:44:21] if there were community banks, people could go there [06:44:35] expecto i dont know if that would change something [06:44:40] and get that money out of thin of air without interest as long as it will make a good thing [06:45:05] the difference is banks make it outh of thin air and charge interest cuz the banker wants to get rich [06:45:16] community banks doesnt [06:45:24] it will make money for people who has a good project [06:45:41] money that will be transformed in real stuff [06:46:23] still there is competition [06:46:33] though [06:47:10] expecto people should not depend on banks or any other corporation. So no this will not solve any real problem [06:47:32] those banks would be owned by people viper [06:47:37] there is no owner [06:47:56] Why make it more complex? [06:48:14] well yes, thats a good question [06:48:45] people need to be able make all what they need [06:48:47] but would it work making it too simple [06:48:48] ? [06:48:54] not depend on any kind of bank or i dont know [06:49:10] is that a belief, religion, dogma? [06:49:19] why cant one people make one thing and other people other thing [06:49:23] ? [06:49:33] i told that to myslef earlier [06:49:49] But why more banks? [06:50:10] expecto You cant change banks or corporations ....... [06:50:47] if there was a bank people go to for money for projects, no longer of the BIG BANK or loans from the corporation [06:50:53] then we dont need those banks anymore [06:51:27] a peoples bank which makes the money out of thin air but charges no interest since no one wants to make a profit from lending money [06:51:34] expecto check that video i post you scroll up [06:52:13] watchign [06:53:00] animals are afraid of death too [06:53:42] oh ok, i get it now [06:53:45] never mind [06:54:10] :) [06:56:08] well when people made constitutions for first time they really didnt want to increase their profits [06:56:18] they believed in them [06:56:44] freedom could be: no man can discriminate other man based on race [06:58:16] what would be the difference of working at a farm, producing tomatoes in exchange for other goods (in the form of money) [06:58:27] than growing ur own tomatoes [06:59:42] none cheat on you [07:00:23] taxing land was bad, thats cheating [07:01:54] but viper... dont u have clothes for winter that would be harder to make on ur own [07:02:12] unless u had some sheeps for wool [07:02:19] and hunted an animal for skin [07:02:26] i think for me is easy to make them then building a bank lol [07:02:55] why hunting? [07:02:55] well community comes in then to make things without money [07:03:03] working together [07:03:03] You can grow some stuff and make it from that [07:03:25] what? [07:03:33] cotton? [07:04:36] would u make ur own computer [07:04:45] from scratch [07:04:59] and the machines needed to make its parts [07:05:14] medicines [07:05:30] condoms [07:05:32] lol [07:05:43] would u use a plastic bag [07:05:49] or have 20 children like the amish [07:05:52] who cant make condoms [07:05:56] with wool [07:06:49] someone could argue u would be more enslaved having to make all for yourself [07:07:27] expecto can you build computer with $ ? [07:07:41] well its knowledge, yes [07:08:00] but then we need a very organized community [07:08:02] i dont think so lol [07:08:02] ? [07:08:17] i mean, its not money u need, its knowledge, yes [07:08:25] $ is not knowledge [07:08:30] i didnt it is [07:08:46] i say u need knowledge not moaney [07:08:49] Development summary for last 24 hours: [07:08:50] 3 edits in the wiki http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges [07:08:51] To stay updated in real time join #developers #mumble #news #pms and #wiki channels. To learn more about the news system go to http://rbose.org/wiki/News [07:09:07] do you need $ for knowledge? [07:09:27] no [07:09:38] exactly [07:09:58] so we need share knowledge not make more $ out of nothing [07:10:30] but its not that wasy [07:10:32] easy [07:11:01] its easy to make more $ but we wont get more knowledge from that [07:11:49] thats true [07:12:08] our economies produce trash mostly [07:12:16] but some things are good [07:12:23] when you make more $ you just make more trash [07:12:35] yes [07:12:53] but i just see it so difficult to start a civilization without money [07:13:13] why need to start new civilication? [07:13:26] Use what we have and make it better [07:13:33] hm [07:13:43] take over the factories [07:13:45] ? [07:13:48] no [07:13:55] well that would be good [07:14:04] we have good machines there [07:14:06] depend less and less on banks corporations and factory [07:14:08] that can make computers [07:14:40] i think soon we can make pc's at home with reprap and arduino [07:15:06] well i think thats 20 years away [07:15:13] i dont think so [07:15:34] btw we need to make better PC's so you can upgrade it and not trow away build new one [07:15:46] will the computer synthesize the elements, silicon etc? [07:16:01] will the reprap* [07:16:06] yes [07:16:21] element synthesize is not easy [07:16:34] i was reading that we can make cpu's from other stuff [07:16:42] me too [07:16:44] its cleaner easy and use less energy [07:17:02] u could make from bacteria [07:17:14] from graphit [07:17:29] i think it was graphit [07:17:31] but u still need to mine for graphit [07:17:51] you dont need to min it lol [07:18:27] you have it in pencil hahah [07:18:47] yes but then pencil finishes [07:18:58] then who will make pencils [07:19:00] Maybe you can collect it from paper [07:19:09] who will make paper [07:20:19] we have tons of graphit we can make more then enough pc's from it [07:20:28] dont need to min for it [07:21:52] the evil of money is that it creates violence [07:22:00] humiliation [07:22:02] anger [07:22:51] but if we organized ourselves without it [07:23:15] maybe we [07:24:00] end up being our own slaves if we would need to make more stuff by ourslves when before we didnt [07:25:34] but we can make it [07:25:37] i know [07:26:05] We could better stop energy in that [07:26:19] we need to build all over the place the machines needed to make the stuff, the primoridal machines [07:26:21] in place of making banks $ [07:26:32] yes but ppl wont get it [07:26:47] if it is a slow transition [07:27:04] they will remember it was better before, ''now i only have a wooden house'' [07:27:13] and im sick and dont have a medicine store [07:27:30] i need to grow this plant to cure my flu [07:27:39] but it grows in 3 months? [07:27:41] :/ [07:28:13] nature is slow [07:28:41] But if you make a bank and give $ he will have faster that plant? [07:29:12] maybe [07:29:25] cuz the ppl who would work in a factory to make medicines [07:29:41] would in the meantime get something inexchange to keep themselves aliv [07:29:43] e [07:29:56] But your bank did you made medicin [07:30:08] or that factory [07:30:09] if they didnt get money for it they would have to think of making the medicine factory and making a food plantation [07:30:13] att the smae time [07:30:35] so they can sustain themslves [07:30:49] or will some people make food, others factory [07:31:05] then we end like slaves in the same way [07:31:59] the facrtory but i explained it now [07:34:14] or maybe we need to plan somethng that makes food, medicines, all in one? [07:34:26] but we are lost then [07:34:53] would people with diabaties have to make their own insulin? [07:35:17] or they rather die so the next generation doesnt have it much? [07:36:26] why not get rid of diabaties? [07:36:37] how? [07:36:58] genetic therapy? [07:37:06] dont need crap? [07:37:16] what? :p [07:37:19] i mean dont eat crap food [07:37:24] ohhhhh [07:37:25] junk food [07:37:26] yes [07:37:27] lol [07:37:40] i thought u meant the people with diabitis are crap lol [07:38:18] well yes thats ture [07:38:41] we could be healthier with a moneyless liifestyle [07:38:42] hehe [07:39:40] to get there we need the economy to collapse [07:39:43] i think [07:40:00] or else we need money to start making a moneyless society [07:40:07] cuz everything is owned [07:40:15] every bit of land [07:40:23] no [07:40:40] right now we cant make all at home if it collaps people will die [07:41:01] all is growing food? [07:41:13] you cant fix broken leg at one night [07:41:27] what u mean [07:42:05] not every one can and know how to grow food [07:42:21] omg, when i said thats true i meant, its true ppl could be healthier in a moneyless lifestyle not that ppl with diabetis are crap [07:42:31] cuz it seemed i said that if u read it [07:42:52] i understand what you mean lol [07:42:58] k :P [07:43:54] yes not everyone knows how to grow food [07:44:44] well i mean u can grow it but it can be dry [07:44:51] can die [07:44:58] or not be as productive [07:45:24] when people depend less on factory banks and corporations they will die [07:45:31] none need to break them or anything [07:45:40] yeah [07:45:59] but to get a moneyless society going on dont we need investment [07:46:02] in technology [07:46:08] to buy the raw materials for it [07:46:12] to buy the land etx [07:46:14] etc [07:46:37] so if i have 1000000 and i buy land what then? [07:46:53] $ dont create technology [07:47:01] right now $ slow down technology [07:47:05] u invest in the developmet of technology to integrate most productionm [07:47:14] to make more $ from old crappy technology like Cars driving on OIL [07:47:30] or power made from Coil [07:47:52] yes but who will give their time if they need money to eat [07:47:58] or dont have access to the resources [07:48:02] cuz someones owns them [07:48:22] maybe we can build a camp in that land [07:48:30] food camp [07:48:31] ? [07:48:40] eco village? [07:48:50] yes [07:48:57] but still dont have access to resources [07:49:11] What kind of resources do you need? [07:49:19] the challenge is make a computer from plants [07:49:48] lol [07:50:11] plants dont need computers [07:50:14] humans do [07:50:32] expecto human is a supper computer :D [07:50:39] haha [07:50:49] so bye computers then? [07:50:55] no [07:51:08] so then? [07:51:15] What kind of resources do you need? [07:51:32] if people will follow the example thye need to know how [07:51:44] They need to know first What [07:51:46] then how [07:51:51] yes [07:51:52] if you dont know what [07:52:03] so what do we need [07:52:06] You say resources and i ask you what kind and you dont know [07:52:13] well [07:52:24] all the things we use have a lot of stuff in them [07:52:36] so maybe start from easy stuff [07:52:36] a computer is an example [07:52:40] dont jump into computer [07:52:49] and when we make the compute? [07:52:49] Maybe first how to make energy? [07:53:00] solar panels? [07:53:06] how do we make solar panels [07:53:12] How store energy [07:53:23] solar dont work 24/7 [07:53:36] human power? [07:53:44] that would becool [07:53:47] so you will power up 24/7 a PC [07:53:50] this can be done by batteries or somethin [07:54:02] yes but how do we make the batteries [07:54:14] exactly [07:54:15] someone made them in the money system [07:54:18] expecto maybe you can make a simple PC from arduino? [07:54:20] or how to make microchips [07:54:28] thats not an easy task [07:54:42] how do i make an arduino from plants? [07:54:58] or how to make a 1tb harddisk or somethin lol [07:54:59] :D [07:55:09] a monitor etc [07:55:31] we need how tos like that [07:55:36] DNS make lots of trash lol [07:55:38] in our wiki! [07:55:39] can i use rain water in my monitor instead of liquid crystal? [07:55:41] lol [07:55:42] :D [07:56:14] expecto i dont know ask samsung LOL [07:56:24] haha :p [07:56:48] wtf is liquid crystal? [07:56:55] `wiki liquid crystal [07:56:58] <|UFO|> Viper: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_crystal [07:56:59] the thing in the flat monitors [07:56:59] URL Title: Liquid crystal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [07:57:01] <|UFO|> Viper: Liquid crystals (LCs) are a state of matter that have properties between those of a conventional liquid and those of a solid crystal. For instance, an LC may flow like a liquid, but its molecules may be oriented in a crystal-like way. There are many different types of LC phase, which can be distinguished by their different optical properties (such as birefringence). When viewed under a microscope using a polarized (1 more message) [07:57:20] the question goes even further behind [07:57:25] !w h2o [07:57:28] Properties of water | Water (H2O) is the most abundant compound on Earth's surface, covering about 70%. In nature, it exists in liquid, solid, and gaseous states. It is in dynamic equilibrium between the liquid and gas states at standard temperature and pressure. At room temperature, it is a tasteless and odorless liquid, nearly colorless with a hint of blue. Many substances dissolve in water and it is [07:57:29] commonly referred to as the universal solvent. Because of this, water in nature and in use is rarely pure and some of its properties may vary slightly from those of the pure substance. However, there are also many compounds that are essentially, if not completely, insoluble in water. Water is the only common substance found naturally @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H2o [07:57:34] `more [07:57:35] <|UFO|> Viper: light source, different liquid crystal phases will appear to have distinct textures. The contrasting areas in the textures correspond to domains where the LC molecules are oriented in different directions. Within a domain, however, the molecules are well ordered. LC materials may not always be in an LC phase (just as water may turn into ice or steam). [07:57:35] not how do we make liquid crystal for a monitor but [07:57:49] :> [07:57:56] How do you shit liquid crystals? Whahahha [07:58:01] yes [07:58:02] sorry [07:58:03] .P [07:58:09] was going to that [07:58:18] we dont need to know only how to make liquid crystal [07:58:26] but how to make the mcahines that make liquid crystal [07:58:29] expecto maybe eat crystals? [07:58:33] lol [07:58:47] hahaha [07:58:56] well thats a good point there [07:59:07] a cell is a computer [07:59:11] living cell in a plant [07:59:26] with a dna printing machine we could make it make materials [07:59:27] yeah [07:59:36] perhaps even liquid crystal [07:59:42] if we change its dna [07:59:43] *** Quits: Caly (quassel@RBOSE-e6eskh.bredband.skanova.com) (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) [07:59:44] -|UFO|- Caly has quit FREENODE (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [08:00:11] and it needs not much energy to reproduce and make other machines like it to make stuff [08:00:14] only water and sunlight [08:02:00] so we can make plants that shit crystals lol [08:02:13]