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[20:48:32] <|UFO|> 14<13Caly@FREENODE14> this is just our freenode chan, we have our own network as well. [20:48:34] <|UFO|> 12<07maxvagabond@FREENODE12> (forgot to mention, I use blender too) [20:49:09] <|UFO|> 14<13Caly@FREENODE14> they're cross-linked, so we're heard on both. [20:49:13] like this, see [20:49:25] yes like this [20:50:26] <|UFO|> 12<07maxvagabond@FREENODE12> I'm liking the idea of open source guys that like making stuff and getting stoned. :) [20:50:42] <|UFO|> 14<13Caly@FREENODE14> maxvagabond: great, i'm acctually going to get my head around it via some good tutorials, some of the guys have already taken courses [20:50:53] <|UFO|> 14<13Caly@FREENODE14> hehe [20:51:10] <|UFO|> 12<07maxvagabond@FREENODE12> In blender? [20:51:22] <|UFO|> 14<13Caly@FREENODE14> well, sure, we have alot of such, but if you come up with something we missed, that would be great [20:51:42] <|UFO|> 14<13Caly@FREENODE14> yeah, i'm gonna learn blender, allready have it installed on my machines [20:51:54] <|UFO|> 12<07maxvagabond@FREENODE12> I've got a pretty good knowledge of blender. Give me a shout if you need help. [20:52:23] <|UFO|> 14<13Caly@FREENODE14> maxvagabond: we are all hardcore FOSS / Free software, OS Hardware freaks in RBOSE (Resource Based Open Source (development) Environment [20:52:35] <|UFO|> 12<07maxvagabond@FREENODE12> Same here. [20:52:42] <|UFO|> 14<13Caly@FREENODE14> wooha, we need lots of help, sooo many cool projects to do =) [20:52:53] <|UFO|> 12<07maxvagabond@FREENODE12> I've been looking at stuff like arduino recently. [20:52:58] <|UFO|> 14<13Caly@FREENODE14> love it [20:53:12] <|UFO|> 14<13Caly@FREENODE14> we have a few guys fiddeling with arduino as well [20:53:47] -|UFO|- Kebap23 has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:53:49] <|UFO|> 14<13Caly@FREENODE14> if you feel up to it, join our own IRC network [20:54:04] <|UFO|> 12<07maxvagabond@FREENODE12> Sure. Where is it? [20:54:15] <|UFO|> 14<13Caly@FREENODE14> http://rbose.org/wiki/IRC/Servers [20:54:17] URL Title: IRC/Servers - RBOSE [20:55:59] <|UFO|> 14<13Caly@FREENODE14> you'll get thrown into mainchan at connection [20:56:14] brb, toiletbreak [20:56:40] btw folks: [20:56:44] Caly: I'm a blacksmith/fabricator/sheet metalworker/welder/cad technician. Any of those sound useful? [20:56:47] *** Joins: maxvagabond (me@RBOSE-etikel.cable.virginmedia.com) [20:56:54] *** Quits: Kebap23 (Max@RBOSE-51eo6l.adsl.hansenet.de) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [20:56:54] hi maxvagabond =) [20:57:02] hello :D [20:57:03] :) [20:57:29] *** Joins: Kebap23 (Max@RBOSE-lkkont.adsl.alicedsl.de) [20:57:30] maxvagabond will prolly need some good introduction to what RBOSE is all about [20:57:37] -|UFO|- maxvagabond has left on FREENODE [20:57:51] -|UFO|- Kebap23 has joined on FREENODE [20:57:58] http://rbose.org/wiki/Main_Page [20:57:59] URL Title: Main Page - RBOSE [20:58:42] http://pms.rbose.org/ [20:58:43] URL Title: RBOSE PMS [20:58:50] This is pretty damn cool. I've got a bunch of interests and suddenly I find a community of people into the same stuff. :) [20:59:04] \o/ [20:59:40] we are still in early development, but i'd say we allready come a long way [21:00:39] if you ahve the energy to register to the wiki lukas made a great text for one of our sandboxes for a new website the other day, explaining quite well how we think and operate here [21:00:54] but brb, that toiletbreak.. ^^ [21:01:15] *** Joins: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) [21:03:28] back [21:06:38] hey [21:07:36] the first computer I bought at a yard sale it seems to be working and winblows XP is installed which is suggesting to me that it can handle Ubuntu :D [21:08:56] do good to that machine, format it to ext4 :D [21:09:17] wait [21:09:19] this is odd [21:09:27] I'm looking at the system specs [21:10:15] it has win XP installed, but system specs are intel pen III, 128 mb ram, almost identical specs as my older computer [21:10:27] I must be missing something [21:12:55] why? [21:13:18] i ran Ubuntu and Kubuntu and even Fedora on such a setup [21:13:27] but 256mb ram [21:13:38] 450mHz [21:14:05] since Ubuntu 7.04 i think [21:15:08] http://i.imgur.com/Wbt6n.jpg - lol [21:15:38] Caly it's below system requirements for Ubuntu even Xubuntu wouldn't work nicely on that computer [21:15:50] thinking LUbuntu might be ok though [21:16:49] puppy Linux seems to work the best I'm going to be installing menuetOS and kolibriOS which are .asm made OS's and see what happens [21:17:56] i can send you more RAM if needed, have a bucket full xD [21:18:15] Billll: hay, go with Ubuntu netbok edition! [21:18:32] kalken praizes that one if i'm recalling it right.. [21:18:49] [21:17:06] PTC = Polska Telefonia Cyfrowa = Polish Mobile Telecommunication [21:18:51] [21:17:24] Share holders: [21:18:52] [21:17:32] T-Mobile Deutschland GmbH - 100% [21:18:54] [21:17:34] LOL [21:18:54] or pick DSL (Damn Small Linux) or some other lighter distro [21:19:14] lukas: hehe [21:20:25] DSL doesn't do nicely on a 128 mb computer [21:20:35] that may be a shocker to most people in this channel [21:20:36] =P [21:20:59] *** Quits: Sixth-Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-d5av5o.mweb.co.za) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [21:21:12] *** Joins: Sixth-Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-5hpn9m.mweb.co.za) [21:21:35] Billll: most has to do with what programs your running [21:21:43] I like puppy dog which is based in C but I can have such settings to where if a program is taking up the majrity of the CPU/ram puppy dog will automatically shut the program down [21:21:55] scdcrow read above iw as getting to that :D [21:22:35] since it's C based it runs the smoothest out of all the linux distros I tried [21:22:38] Billll: the kernel does that, OOM. out of memory. [21:22:50] Billll: it's no feature specific to puppy [21:23:17] Billll: but the most code you will run is the programs, libs etc themself. not distro-specifik code. [21:23:25] specific* [21:23:51] Billll: iirc puppy runs xfce as default. so.. [21:23:51] scrdow you try out puppy before? [21:24:03] Billll: not personaly. I friend used it some. [21:24:16] their is a bit mroe too it to be honest [21:24:26] it's pretty cool though [21:24:30] Billll: sure, GNU/Linux seldome run on stuff older than GNU/Linux. [21:25:09] Windows won't run on pre-windows hardware either ofc [21:25:20] Billll: yes, different distros does make different, depending on compilation, scripts etc etc.. but still. I think a light-distro with the right light wm, maybe a desktop, light progs etc will do it. [21:25:26] differenc* [21:25:29] difference* [21:25:47] Caly, https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/PKO_Bank_Polski and as of 10 April 2010 only 40,99% is in hands of state, lol [21:25:48] URL Title: PKO Bank Polski - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [21:28:49] Billll: i assume memeory is the problem? [21:28:59] scrdown puppy linux has application specific for the OS and for low system resources [21:29:01] Billll: myself I mostly prefer debian because the base-system is small enough for my crappy computers I sometime use. then it's just a matter of choosing the right progs. [21:29:10] Billll: oh ok :-) [21:29:24] Billll: what types of programs? [21:29:47] althought in light weight OS's it's not a problem I find the kernel to be interesting on how it handles it [21:30:04] Thanks, and now for the weather - The planets fucked, it's your fault and it's getting worse. Have a nice weekend! [21:30:27] scrdown I have the OS shutdown now testing a new comptuer when I get it back up I'll check [21:30:34] Billll: but still. I think the majority of programs you will use are not developed in house. [21:30:56] (therefore it will be of more importance, but sure, the distro does make a difference) [21:31:05] scrcow I'm unsure to eb honest but I'd I agree with that [21:31:31] http://i.imgur.com/FA9tj.jpg [21:32:08] Ades: I have missed the sheen thing. what is it? [21:32:35] kernel makes the difference :D [21:33:08] hehe, atleast some. [21:33:31] hhmmm [21:33:33] but I think most distros compile most stuff as modules. not sure what else there is to it, but probably alot :-) [21:33:37] this is odd [21:34:14] Billll: you can always try haiku :-D [21:35:06] "Haiku currently only works on x86 systems. Minimum memory required is 128 MB. If compiling Haiku within itself, 1 GB of memory is recommended. Haiku has been tested to work on CPUs as slow as a Pentium II 400 MHz, and requires as little as 700 MB of drive space." [21:35:10] So the computer I have right now advertizes it can habor windows 98 yet it has XP on it [21:35:41] oooo [21:36:13] Billll: you can't dumpster a faster computer? ;-D [21:36:52] scrcow I bought this one =P but it seems to be running XP just nicely [21:38:19] HDD is low though [21:38:24] maybe 10 gigs [21:38:42] pretty sad [21:41:10] why? what u gonna use it for? [21:41:10] *** Joins: traph (traph@RBOSE-t647d7.btc-net.bg) [21:48:56] Billll: failed, XP can not run nicely at all [21:49:00] :p [21:53:56] får hoppas Samsung tar kål på mac å spnt skit, deras nya produktlinjer äger, och kör android ofc =) [21:54:23] dessutom har dom ju redan snott åt sig 3D-marknaedn [21:54:29] caly? [21:54:32] wrong channel? [21:54:35] yeah [21:55:06] Caly: btw did you read that last article about android from fsf? [21:56:26] you mean stallmans? [21:56:34] about smartphones [21:56:36] yeah [21:56:40] no [21:56:44] mkay... [21:56:47] show me [21:56:51] i mean the fsf article [21:56:53] wait [21:57:18] http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/031411-richard-stallman.html?page=1 [21:57:19] URL Title: Cell phones are 'Stalin's dream,' says free software movement founder [21:57:32] http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/android-market-has-drm-too [21:57:33] URL Title: Steer clear of Android Market and its DRM Free Software Foundation working together for free software [21:57:43] yea that one i pasted here yesterday or this morning [21:57:44] :D [21:58:10] stallman is a real rebel [21:58:11] hehe [21:58:21] a hero [22:00:54] DNS: there is a free version of android beeing developed now [22:01:13] noice [22:05:13] nice write [22:34:41] *** Quits: DeLrge-wrk (Lotuz@RBOSE-41k96q.business.telia.com) (Quit: Take the rag away from your face, now ain't the time for your tears.) [22:42:10] hhmm [22:42:16] second computer does not turn on [22:42:56] but main screen turn on [22:42:59] thinking PSU works but I think start up button on compaq may be messed up [22:43:05] nope nothing turn on [22:43:07] open it up Billll [22:43:12] already did [22:43:18] laptop? [22:43:29] nope a computer I bought at a agrage sale [22:43:32] ah [22:43:41] Garage* [22:43:44] if nothing else works, check the capacitors if they are "popped" [22:44:45] ok [22:46:29] you can disconnect the main cable from psu -> motherboard and shortcircuit two of the pins, to see if the PSU starts up [22:47:39] green and black :) [22:48:49] oo [22:50:36] and by shortcircuit I mean constantly, not just touching them [22:50:44] enough tips for today? :D [22:51:40] hi Fat64 :D [22:51:45] helo =) [22:52:20] yesh [22:52:23] :D [22:52:28] olright ^ [22:52:30] looking for faulty capcitor [22:52:41] which reminds me of something else [22:52:41] also could just be the fuse in the psu [22:53:54] well it may not be a capaciter though [22:57:01] ok I am smelling something kinda of funky from it [22:57:24] :< not very good sign [22:57:31] maybe a burning plastic smell it's strong when I stick my nose close to thy computer [22:58:14] but it seems the either card I can't see very good but the capicitor looks like it's bulging (I think can't see to well) [22:58:24] everything on the mobo from what I see is fine [23:14:38] *** Quits: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) (Quit: Leaving) [23:22:26] hi folks! [23:32:12] *** Quits: Grits (Hominy@RBOSE-dgejqa.client.mchsi.com) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [23:40:18] why can't MS be good ol' free software haters instead of this new strategic bs? [23:40:25] this just irritates me more ;-) [23:40:51] but fun to read about thou. [23:41:15] *** Joins: Grits (Hominy@RBOSE-b0kfv5.client.mchsi.com) [23:43:14] *** Quits: Caly (quassel@RBOSE-068phb.bredband.skanova.com) (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) [23:43:15] -|UFO|- Caly has quit FREENODE (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [23:43:37] now it's all bout getting free software (they would never use that term, ofcourse) on their platforms (ex. codeplex), or getting involved in free software to make shit work on their paltforms (ex. the visualisation drivers). it's almost never under copyleft licensen either. [23:45:00] all this controlling the platform thingie as all the rest. [23:45:49] *** Joins: Caly (quassel@RBOSE-068phb.bredband.skanova.com) [23:45:56] -|UFO|- Caly has joined on FREENODE [23:45:57] -|UFO|- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Caly [23:46:15] end of rant. [23:57:19] aaah, here we go.. my system been acting up lately, found out the yacy installer was the crook [23:57:32] no wonder i didn't get it to work the other day [23:57:57] *** Quits: Diago_____ (Diago@RBOSE-njq.nq9.84.186.IP) (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~) [23:58:12] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hIQjrMHTv4 [23:58:14] You4Tube 2[Title] History of the Internet 2[Category] Education 2[Duration] 0:08:10 2[Views] 2296343 2[Rating] 4.87 2[Uploaded] 2009-01-04 2[Description] "History of the internet" is an animated documentary explaining the inventions from time-sharing to filesharing, from Arpanet to Internet. The clip was made by Melih Bilgil — http://www.lonja.de The history is told using the PICOL icons, which are available on picol.org. You can