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To learn more about the news system go to http://rbose.org/wiki/News [10:34:27] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-hhm.9h0.94.93.IP) [11:03:57] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-hhm.9h0.94.93.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [11:21:40] hi all :) [11:21:46] .c [11:21:46] *** Parts: lukas (lukas@NetAdmin.RBOSE) [11:21:46] *** Joins: lukas (lukas@NetAdmin.RBOSE) [11:39:55] *** Joins: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-cdb9l1.cust.bluewin.ch) [12:14:51] *** Joins: hakufu (asdasd@RBOSE-32dg8q.bredband.comhem.se) [12:35:49] *** Joins: nairboon_ (nairboon@RBOSE-cdb9l1.cust.bluewin.ch) [12:35:49] *** Quits: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-cdb9l1.cust.bluewin.ch) (Connection closed) [12:35:49] *** nairboon_ is now known as nairboon [12:38:26] *** Joins: nairboon_ (nairboon@RBOSE-cdb9l1.cust.bluewin.ch) [12:38:26] *** Quits: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-cdb9l1.cust.bluewin.ch) (Connection closed) [12:38:29] *** nairboon_ is now known as nairboon [12:56:23] hi folks [12:56:27] `fortune [12:56:28] Viper: There is a fly on your nose. [13:34:29] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-r9phbn.bredband.skanova.com) [13:34:45] -nobody- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [13:43:18] .c [13:43:18] *** Parts: DNS (DNS777@NetAdmin.RBOSE) [13:43:18] *** Joins: DNS (DNS777@NetAdmin.RBOSE) [13:43:43] * DNS is short lookin in be4 he goes in the nice april sun again [13:43:59] !weather hamburg [13:44:01] 16,400,000 results | BBC Weather | Hamburg @ http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/49 | Hamburg Airport, Germany Forecast : Weather Underground @ http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/10147.html | Hamburg Weather Forecast and Conditions @ http://www.weather.com/weather/today/Hamburg+Germany+GMXX0049 [13:44:08] ,weather hamburg [13:44:09] Weather for Hamburg, Hamburg on 2011-04-23 11:00UTC 2[Current:] 22℃, Cloudy, Wind: E at 29 km/h, Humidity: 20% 2[Forecast:] Sat: Mostly Sunny ( 23℃ | 7℃ ), Sun: Mostly Sunny ( 21℃ | 6℃ ), Mon: Mostly Sunny ( 19℃ | 5℃ ), Tue: Mostly Sunny ( 20℃ | 8℃ ) [13:44:16] ?? google [13:44:17] google: sux [13:48:51] *** Joins: nairboon_ (nairboon@RBOSE-cdb9l1.cust.bluewin.ch) [13:48:51] *** Quits: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-cdb9l1.cust.bluewin.ch) (Connection closed) [13:48:51] *** nairboon_ is now known as nairboon [14:55:54] *** Quits: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-cdb9l1.cust.bluewin.ch) (Connection closed) [14:56:24] *** Joins: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-cdb9l1.cust.bluewin.ch) [15:05:04] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RExQFZzHXQ [15:05:05] You4Tube 2[Title] The Poetry of Science: Richard Dawkins and Neil deGrasse Tyson 2[Category] Tech 2[Duration] 1:17:13 2[Views] 172612 2[Rating] 4.97 2[Uploaded] 2010-10-20 2[Description] The Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science ( http://richarddawkins.net ) presents: "The Poetry of Science: Discussions of the Beauty of Science." Two of science's luminaries converse on the beauty of science. 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[20:08:38] Viper: kman was last seen in #RBOSE 9 hours, 4 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: *** kman has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [20:08:39] Viper: Error: "test" is not a valid command. [20:08:40] Viper: Error: "?" is not a valid command. [20:08:45] k pms lags [20:08:46] lol [20:09:17] ,ping [20:09:17] pong [20:13:35] Viper, rBOTse is not on pms [20:13:52] oh [20:14:06] i take my words back :P [20:14:15] lol [20:40:12] *** Joins: diogenez (Administrator@RBOSE-qh39ph.ph.cox.net) [20:45:23] Hey diogenez :D [20:47:35] so good [20:47:38] have you seen... [20:47:43] http://zeitgeistmovements.wordpress.com/ [20:47:45] EZ [20:47:57] i just got banned 'perm' again from teamspeak [20:48:06] *** Parts: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-cn22bv.pool.telekom.hu) [20:48:53] haha [20:49:07] hahah [20:49:22] i just dont go there dont need it [20:49:28] awww [20:49:29] its so good [20:51:04] Folks any one see/know about data that they calculate with BOINC? [20:51:09] Cant finde anything about it [20:52:38] Because i think its one big LIE [21:02:26] http://www.ted.com/talks/steven_levitt_analyzes_crack_economics.html [21:02:27] URL Title: Steven Levitt analyzes crack economics | Video on TED.com [21:19:35] Hi Caly [21:20:54] hio =) [21:21:14] i asked about that in the Boinc IRC chan =P [21:22:05] http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Talk:How_BOINC_works LOL [21:22:06] URL Title: Talk:How BOINC works - BOINC [21:22:28] I would like to see some proof of concept before "wasting" all those watts. [21:22:30] Install it and run it for no more than 30 minutes [21:25:19] http://i.imgur.com/djMIM.png [21:25:45] lol [21:26:15] http://zeitgeistmovements.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/picture-841.png [21:26:24] hahah [21:26:29] open source will win [21:26:59] BOINC was a joke [21:27:17] i waste my watts on building ratio on demonoid.... [21:29:40] Development summary for last 24 hours: [21:29:41] 1 edits in the wiki http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges [21:29:42] 1 activities in the pms http://pms.rbose.org/activity [21:29:43] To stay updated in real time join #developers #mumble #news #pms and #wiki channels. To learn more about the news system go to http://rbose.org/wiki/News [21:30:12] http://zeitgeistmovements.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/greenscreen.jpg?w=500&h=375 [21:30:15] hahaha [21:30:24] ok ok enough laughing for today [21:32:40] ok no more please [21:32:52] lol [21:33:23] diogenez are you vegan? [21:34:27] yes [21:34:31] i am veg all my life [21:34:45] cool [21:34:49] notice any mention to 'venus' has been scrubbed form zeitgeist hahha [21:35:08] they are lost with out a purpose now [21:35:13] Idea is to make a vegan food Database [21:35:24] i prefer less cooking personaly [21:35:42] because fresh foods are so important [21:35:54] Yeah i like fresh too :D [21:36:00] when fried or baked the temp transforms many starches into acrylamide [21:36:11] my mom just left today [21:36:14] i am A new Vegan lol [21:36:20] she sure did call me out on my computer use.... [21:36:39] she is the raw foodist since 1974 [21:36:50] :D [21:37:08] lucky you [21:37:17] ya for sure [21:37:36] she left to a seed exchange [21:37:38] at rama ? [21:37:53] huh [21:38:23] Mission Statement: To continue, revive, and protect our native seeds, crops, ... to participate in a seed exchange ceremony and signing of a Seed Sovereignty ... Shortly thereafter, members of the New Mexico Food & Seed Sovereignty [21:39:09] ah [21:40:20] oh well i don't have all the details [21:40:25] but it is outside Grants [21:41:00] http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/19/erase-a-cd-like-a-boss-video/ [21:41:59] lool [21:42:24] URL Title: Erase a CD like a boss (video) -- Engadget [21:52:13] *** Joins: nairboon_ (nairboon@RBOSE-cdb9l1.cust.bluewin.ch) [21:52:13] *** Quits: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-cdb9l1.cust.bluewin.ch) (Connection closed) [21:52:13] *** nairboon_ is now known as nairboon [21:54:17] *** Quits: rBOTse (rBOTse@RBOSE-gkfu2h) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [21:54:35] *** Joins: rBOTse (rBOTse@RBOSE-gkfu2h) [21:54:36] *** RBOSE sets mode: +o rBOTse [21:54:54] One thing is sure TZM never closes its door if they do come back unlike what TVP is doing to us. [21:54:55] hahaha [21:55:28] for people who have had tzm slam the door on their face to hear that... [22:02:18] *** Quits: rBOTse (rBOTse@RBOSE-gkfu2h) (Connection closed) [22:02:27] *** Joins: rBOTse (rBOTse@RBOSE-gkfu2h) [22:02:28] *** RBOSE sets mode: +o rBOTse [22:22:59] -nobody- maxvagabond has joined on FREENODE [22:23:40] hi maxvagabond :) [22:24:37] hi maxvagabond, nice to see you back =( [22:24:38] =) [22:25:32] 12<07maxvagabond@FREENODE12> thanks :) [22:25:46] 05<04Calyp@FREENODE05> nice maxvagabond, i was just responding about the RBOS3D work ( RBOSE project for digital manufacturing [22:26:00] *** Joins: nairboon_ (nairboon@RBOSE-cdb9l1.cust.bluewin.ch) [22:26:08] 12<07maxvagabond@FREENODE12> sounds interesting [22:26:18] 05<04Calyp@FREENODE05> i dunno much about the software aspects, as you might now [22:26:36] 05<04Calyp@FREENODE05> i'm the mechanics wiz =P [22:26:41] *** Parts: Diago_____ (Diago@RBOSE-njq.nq9.84.186.IP) [22:27:11] 12<07maxvagabond@FREENODE12> i know some bits. what are you thinking of doing? 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[22:42:08] i am learning blender too :D [22:42:16] Hi maxvagabond [22:44:02] hi Viper, what kind of stuff you aiming to do with blender/ [22:44:03] ? [22:44:34] lots of stuff [22:44:34] 22:39 < maxvagabond> I'm working on an open source guitar. http://i.imgur.com/gDwNC.png <--- nice :) [22:45:14] imagine what would happen if everybody who built their own instruments shared that knowledge with everybody else [22:45:25] kalken: that's the plan. :) [22:45:41] maxvagabond: have you seen the popsicle stick guitar? [22:45:50] kalken: no, sounds fun. :) [22:46:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR6BNjfZavw [22:46:22] You4Tube 2[Title] Popsicle stick guitar 2[Category] Howto 2[Duration] 0:07:30 2[Views] 10912 2[Rating] 4.74 2[Uploaded] 2010-05-25 2[Description] Parlor guitar I made from about 2,000 popsicle sticks......about 2 months time......everything is made from popsicle sticks except where necessary to use metal.....I'm retired in Costa Rica and limited to resources, so kind of have to make do with what I have.... [22:46:34] interesting way of recycle material :D [22:46:39] wow [22:47:21] crazy way of making a guitar. i admire his resolve. [22:47:50] kalken: you got some reprap users in rbose? [22:47:55] -nobody- magnetron has joined on FREENODE [22:48:24] yeah. That guy (popsicle guitar) lived in costa rica or something. Had limited resources around him so he had to improvise :) [22:48:36] got to respect that [22:48:51] maxvagabond: yes we have a few. warpi and kman is building repraps that i know of [22:49:13] probably a few more :D [22:50:23] that guitar model i designed, i'd wanted to export it to autocad, but didn't have any luck. now i'm wondering if i can somehow take that design and convert it to gcode (the commands that drive cnc machines, including repraps) [22:50:50] that'd be great because then i could machine stuff without having to use proprietry software. [22:51:54] kalken: yeah.. there is this other guy... ;) [22:51:56] haha [22:52:00] maxvagabond: look here http://reprap.org/wiki/Useful_Software_Packages [22:52:02] URL Title: Useful Software Packages - RepRapWiki [22:52:06] Caly: haha :D [22:53:09] maxvagabond: i meant technical drawings, or rather, redered parts that can be printed on a reprap or by any other means of digital fabrication [22:53:21] maxvagabond: you might be better of with using some form of "carving"-technique to do the main parts, and then maybe reprap small things on it [22:55:10] kalken: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTvfnzBX7C0 < something simple like this would do. just carve the outline of the guitar into a block of wood, the rest could be done with hand tools afterwards. [22:55:11] You4Tube 2[Title] CNC-guitar 2[Category] Tech 2[Duration] 0:05:59 2[Views] 22183 2[Rating] 4.90 2[Uploaded] 2009-04-24 2[Description] The first body on my new home build CNC router. [22:55:34] exactly. i was also thinking cnc [22:55:58] haha very nice video :D [22:56:16] i'm guessing a reprap isn't sturdy enough to route wood, but even if it could hold a pen and draw the design onto the wood that would be a nice proof of concept. [22:56:27] get people thinking. [22:57:26] maxvagabond: i agree. The best way to get people out of this consumer era is probably to show them alternatives :D [22:57:35] (instead of just talking about them) [22:58:41] i wonder how much a simple plotter costs. [22:59:30] might be fun to build that too :D [22:59:53] be simpler than a reprap, no z axis [23:00:09] * maxvagabond goes to google open source plotters :) [23:01:24] http://www.linuxcnc.org/ [23:01:26] URL Title: LinuxCNC.org - HomeUntitled Document [23:01:26] xD [23:02:21] hmm. page didn't show. :( [23:02:36] ah, did this time [23:03:07] interesting link [23:05:52] maxvagabond: check this also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOJTMsKR7ag [23:05:54] You4Tube 2[Title] Carlos Vamos plays AIRguitar 2[Category] Music 2[Duration] 0:07:34 2[Views] 173919 2[Rating] 4.92 2[Uploaded] 2007-02-05 2[Description] Carlos Vamos demonstrates the custom made AIRguitar. The guitar neck is from Ibanez, the guitar body was build with the Kind help and creative cooperation of Master luthier Marcus Van Engelen. The final guitar asembly and wiring was done by Carlos Vamos. See the other AIRguitar vi [23:06:05] sounds like you can run it on a pc, connect it to a cnc machine and run it all. [23:07:19] cool :) [23:09:44] i think i'm going to reinstall ubuntu 10.04 lts. i'm running the 11.04 beta and it's horribly buggy. [23:09:50] (unsurprisingly) [23:10:29] get http://trisquel.info [23:10:30] URL Title: Trisquel GNU/Linux | Run free! [23:10:31] :P [23:10:38] hopefully its more stable on the 26'th :D [23:10:47] i went back to debian :D [23:10:58] kalken: i've considered that [23:11:08] is debian less archaic than it used to be? [23:11:19] i will not use anymore an new ubuntu itself [23:11:20] brb phone [23:11:30] too many proprietary shit is supported in there [23:11:50] debian has none of that default [23:11:57] just look at your superduper software center lol [23:11:59] :> [23:12:02] even firefox is rebranded :D [23:12:25] yes debain is nice, but i prefer trisquel for desktop, and debian for server [23:12:27] :> [23:12:39] kalken: you ever tried icecat? [23:13:35] http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ [23:13:36] URL Title: GNUzilla and IceCat - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [23:13:41] i have iceweasle here now. But no ff4 stuff yet [23:13:46] i run chromium atm [23:13:50] very happy with that [23:13:57] iceweasel isnt the same [23:14:26] icecat 4 is out already also [23:14:36] yes. i have not tried that [23:14:44] only that based on ff3 [23:14:45] https://launchpad.net/~gnuzilla-team/+archive/ppa [23:14:46] URL Title: GNU IceCat for Ubuntu : “GNUzilla Team” team [23:17:18] is trisquel basically ubuntu with all the dodgy stuff taken out? [23:17:36] yes exactly [23:17:42] 100% free [23:18:23] so it's slicker than debian? [23:18:40] you have to less customize [23:18:43] like in ubuntu [23:18:52] if you compare with debian [23:18:54] tempting [23:19:40] i was thinking about writing an installscript to debian, to customize whatever :D [23:19:52] but i probably never get around to do that :( [23:20:50] it seems like most dists is basically debian with custom installs (different packages) anyway. So why just not make a script that can do whatever :D [23:22:24] good idea [23:22:41] why reinvent debian? [23:23:00] just make tools to polish it up instead. [23:23:17] exactly. They just seem to need someone who does the finish with settings :D [23:23:25] its all there [23:24:04] and if one runs debian wheezy (testing), its the newer versions of stuff also [23:24:23] i have had no problems with it so far (on a laptop) [23:24:26] wheezy is still reasonably stable? [23:25:11] i would say so yes. But it was somewhat more demanding install than ubuntu [23:25:14] but i like that :D [23:27:04] hmm. i could have debian stable for rock solid reliability, then the lastest ubuntu for fun, but impractical stuff. :) [23:27:35] why not just have Beast Edition II ? [23:27:43] diogenez wut? [23:27:47] as a os [23:27:52] yeah. Depends on what computer is for :) i'm only happy if setup of a production server is not changing too much :D [23:27:55] i've not heard of it. :) [23:27:58] yup [23:28:40] https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6040094/WinXP_Beast_Edition_II__VirtualBox_Image_ [23:28:41] URL Title: WinXP Beast Edition II *VirtualBox Image* (download torrent) - TPB [23:28:46] kalken: sometimes i want absolute reliability, sometimes i want shiny new toys. dual booting is probably the way to go. :) [23:28:47] here is a virtual box images of it if you want to try it [23:28:51] cmon diogenez [23:28:55] fuck that [23:28:57] best version out [23:28:59] !windows [23:29:00] I know winblows is defective by design. Check: http://rbose.org/wiki/Defective_by_Design [23:29:07] but this is the last best version [23:29:13] maxvagabond: or you just try stuff in a virtual machine :D [23:29:18] make sense if you want to use that this is it [23:29:20] probably the easiest way [23:29:29] diogenez: i run xp in virtualbox. [23:29:36] for stuff like autocad. [23:29:40] cool [23:29:47] ya i use Rhinoceros 3d [23:29:49] and autocad [23:29:49] but i keep it disconnected from the internet. [23:29:50] too [23:29:55] diogenez: i've got rhino too [23:29:59] nice [23:30:16] want the crack for the lastest WIP v5 ? [23:30:24] every week a new version [23:30:25] you know yes? [23:30:36] here is no fukkin warez network [23:30:38] worker owned user driven ... [23:30:39] http://www.symphonyofscience.com/ [23:30:40] i'm ok on v4 for now, but thanks. :) [23:30:40] URL Title: Symphony of Science [23:30:44] mcneel is ok with it [23:30:48] dont freak out dns [23:30:50] nice new tune, "Ode to the human brain" [23:30:54] heres is a network for FREE and OPEN SOURCE software [23:30:56] its a philosphy of pro warez [23:31:03] this is the next best thing [23:31:07] so please keep this bullshit out of here [23:31:08] Free Technology [23:31:11] you cant kick other models [23:31:21] a diversity of tactics matters [23:31:27] here we go again xD [23:31:29] it is like zm having intollerance for trolls [23:31:39] unnessisary division [23:31:56] autocad and rhino are a necessary evil for me, but i'm working on doing everything i need to do in blender. [23:31:57] worker owned vs free (with gpl) [23:32:05] ya interopprability [23:32:14] maxvagabond: do you have the linux bricscad or progecad [23:32:33] or that is not considered 'free' according to RBOSE standard [23:32:43] diogenez: no, i've not even heard of them. [23:32:46] OpenDesign Alliance [23:33:06] they are out of Phoenix and they make the audocad Clones source project taht others use as a engine [23:33:06] i'll look into it [23:33:16] problem with ALL proprietary software is that it reduces the user to a customer, that will end up pushing green or red button, hoping for the best. [23:33:35] but it creates the potential for anticapitalist revolution [23:33:51] and a people willing to take action to take back what is proprietary as an act of definance [23:33:55] why not use the tools that enables people to help each other make the world better :) [23:33:56] against a corporatocracu [23:34:04] do you know somebody who does not warez [23:34:11] they are the problem [23:34:17] address em [23:34:24] diogenez: check your messages :) [23:34:27] but never for a min try to margenialize a pirate [23:36:28] never for a min try to marginalize someone who just try to explain what he thinks about :D [23:38:29] things still need to be structured. And offering haxxz for closed prop stuff, this is not the right place :D [23:38:54] but i'm sure there are plenty of others (so i hear) [23:40:38] guys, no ofense but take the proprietary crap somwhere else :D we don't need intelectual slavery or be called thefts! [23:42:15] hehe [23:42:36] there is lots of room here for alterantive models [23:42:48] and talk of intellectural liberation [23:43:29] piracy is not liberation, if people don't want you to use their stuff you should not do it and instead MAKE alternatives [23:43:40] that is liberation [23:44:14] fukking lazy people [23:44:54] sorry guys, but i really don't get how people want to be free without making the effort to change the habits [23:45:31] `fortune [23:45:31] Viper: Why is it that we rejoice at a birth and grieve at a funeral? It is because we are not the person involved. -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar" [23:45:43] !windows [23:45:43] I can not understand why people do run such as proprietary bullshit, sorry. Do you know about FOSS (Free and Open Source Software)? Check: http://rbose.org/wiki/FOSS and/or type: /join #FOSS [23:47:04] your stupid [23:47:10] that is why you don't know [23:47:13] no Warz lets Foss :D [23:47:13] open your eyes foo [23:47:14] in my family nobody is using this crap, there is no reason to do so, i'm not running this $hit already for 8 years i think [23:47:19] its because it is IN USE [23:47:36] i don't use it [23:47:36] and if you want to work with others the tools that are being used will be and you neeed to be compatable and interopperable [23:47:41] if you are to collaberate [23:47:54] windows is the opposite of being compatible [23:48:04] that is an opinion [23:48:07] diogenez: if you want to use it. Fine. Do that. But talk about it and to people in the right forums [23:48:08] no a fact [23:48:17] try to mount a linux hdd at windows [23:48:21] or a macos hd [23:48:22] if there is no app, i write it and not crack it to make other people use illegal stuff, i don't want to make a society of thefts [23:48:23] prove it [23:48:24] or a solaris [23:48:30] or a freebsd [23:48:32] lukas sorry but nobody is using foss not crap LOL ^^ [23:48:33] what is on that HD ? [23:48:37] try same with gnu/linux [23:48:41] and then lets talk again [23:48:49] that i would need you may be mad because you are forced to be windows compatable [23:48:55] and there is not yet a reason to be the otehr way [23:49:02] 98% [23:49:09] if that # changes then we talk [23:49:18] that is the way it is like it or not [23:49:30] SO if all use facebook i should do that too? [23:49:45] if you want to talk to people on it who use it yes [23:49:48] that is your choice [23:49:51] to or not to [23:50:03] i say fuck them LOL [23:50:03] we are talking about engeineering here thou [23:50:05] .dwg format [23:50:10] and .docx formats [23:50:14] stuff that is content [23:50:15] for design [23:50:25] http://www.top500.org/stats/list/36/osfam the world is running on GNU/Linux [23:50:27] drafting and design for the production of real word stuffs [23:50:29] world [23:50:30] URL Title: Operating system Family share for 11/2010 | TOP500 Supercomputing Sites [23:50:40] me and maxvagabond [23:50:51] http://www.focus.com/fyi/information-technology/50-places-linux-running-you-might-not-expect/ [23:50:54] have a use , what does RBOSE propose are your pure free sollution? [23:50:59] diogenez i am on Supper Computer OS :D are you? [23:51:02] Mcneel may be our best choice [23:51:20] who cares if i am not doing super computation [23:51:26] the question is [23:51:35] hwo fast do you encode a DVD to h264 [23:51:42] or audio cd to mp3 lame [23:51:44] 320 [23:51:44]