[00:08:47] *** Quits: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@RBOSE-2ej.pbu.200.193.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [00:21:49] *** Quits: Hakufu_ (jsajfsagj@RBOSE-f2cf0t.bredband.tre.se) (Connection closed) [00:32:24] http://www.ted.com/talks/kathryn_schulz_on_being_wrong.html [00:32:26] Talk title: Kathryn Schulz: On being wrong - Most of us will do anything to avoid being wrong. But what if we're wrong about that? "Wrongologist" Kathryn Schulz makes a compelling case for not just admitting but embracing our fallibility. [00:32:27] Download: http://video.ted.com/talk/stream/2011/Blank/KathrynSchulz_2011-320k.mp4 (medium), http://video.ted.com/talk/stream/2011/Blank/KathrynSchulz_2011-320k.mp4 (high), http://video.ted.com/talks/podcast/KathrynSchulz_2011-320k.mp4.mp4 (higher), http://video.ted.com/talks/podcast/KathrynSchulz_2011-320k.mp4_480.mp4 (best) [00:59:42] -nobody- alexbobp has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [01:01:09] -nobody- alexbobp has joined on FREENODE [01:53:38] -nobody- Kebap23 has quit FREENODE (*.net *.split) [01:55:24] -nobody- Kebap23 has joined on FREENODE [01:59:52] -nobody- DNS777 has quit FREENODE (Remote host closed the connection) [02:00:33] -nobody- DNS777 has joined on FREENODE [02:03:33] -nobody- DNS777 has quit FREENODE (Changing host) [02:03:35] -nobody- DNS777 has joined on FREENODE [02:03:36] -nobody- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v DNS777 [02:06:27] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE.org) (Quit: Leaving) [02:06:29] -nobody- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Quit: Leaving) [02:24:49] *** Joins: DustWolf (DustWolf@RBOSE-20iolm.ctrl-alt-del.si) [02:48:08] *** Quits: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-uvec0q.tbcn.telia.com) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [03:15:24] *** Quits: lukas (lukas@RBOSE-gkfu2h) (Quit: ) [03:23:33] *** Quits: duxck (qwebirc@RBOSE-obg6ev.no.powertech.net) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [06:12:51] https://launchpad.net/~dns/+archive/sound < go there, if some1 want already the latest stable version of lmms 0.4.11 (for buntu 10.04-11.10) and feel free to spread it :) [06:12:54] URL Title: Sound : DNS [06:26:50] *** Quits: DNS777 (DNS777@RBOSE-j78r2r.superkabel.de) (Quit: wo0t!) [06:29:14] ok im out, cya and have a good morning :) [06:29:22] *** Quits: DNS (DNS777@RBOSE-j78r2r.superkabel.de) (Quit: l8erz) [06:51:12] *** Joins: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-uvec0q.tbcn.telia.com) [06:59:16] *** Quits: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-uvec0q.tbcn.telia.com) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [07:16:39] *** Joins: JoshStrobl (qwebirc@RBOSE-5j91bf.rioaccess.com) [07:29:48] Just me or is OAuth overly complex than necessary? [08:26:24] *** Joins: Iderik (iderik@RBOSE-95pgg9.mobileonline.telia.com) [08:43:03] *** Joins: Antilect (Antilect@RBOSE-uvec0q.tbcn.telia.com) [08:47:05] a hackerteam that has recently got much attention, recently released emails that says the american government are doing cyberattacks against lybia's infrastructure: http://pastebin.com/MQG0a130 [08:47:06] URL Title: LulzSec versus FBI Affiliates + Whitehats - Pastebin.com [09:03:02] Doesn't surprise me [09:05:33] JoshStrobl: why's that? [09:06:00] (the OAuth statement, that is= [09:06:24] Its the U.S. Government, what do you expect? Easier for the U.S. to weaken Libyan infrastructure, roll in when they "eliminate the dictator", and take all the oil. Just like with Iraq. [09:06:36] Ah [09:06:56] I'm not sure how to answer your question Slush, could you rephrase it? [09:07:48] I haven't read the OAuth specification myself, byt I'm just curious why you think it is overly complex :) [09:10:10] At first glance at documentation of OAuth 2.0 (requiring SSL), the amount of security that really only gives a false sense of securement is just terribly rediculous. Right now I'm reading up on OAuth 1.0 documentation from a site recommended by both Twitter and Google (hueniverse) and they simplify it a lot more. [09:12:31] Considering it is starting to be a universal standard and I'm going to be writing a cloud application that is like TweetDeck on crack, I need to learn OAuth (Twitter, Google, et cetera all use it as standard) [09:26:47] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-ic0.c0i.29.41.IP) [09:26:54] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-ic0.c0i.29.41.IP) (Connection closed) [09:27:49] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-ic0.c0i.29.41.IP) [09:42:04] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-jgdl6q.bredband.skanova.com) [09:42:23] -nobody- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [09:44:57] Hello Caly [09:47:45] *** Joins: Hakufu (jsajfsagj@RBOSE-lqc6gf.bredband.tre.se) [09:50:19] If anyone wants a decent movie to watch (I rarely recommend movies) download Priest http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6442873/Priest_2011_R5_LiNE_AC3_XViD-EP1C [09:50:20] URL Title: Priest 2011 R5 LiNE AC3 XViD-EP1C (download torrent) - TPB [09:56:12] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-n06gbt.student.uu.se) [10:21:57] *** Joins: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@RBOSE-2ej.pbu.200.193.IP) [10:29:46] Morning rboxxy [10:34:53] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-ic0.c0i.29.41.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [10:41:26] Morning kman [10:47:28] *** Joins: lukas (lukas@RBOSE-gkfu2h) [10:47:35] Morning lukas [10:47:43] hi JoshStrobl :) [10:47:47] how are you bud? [10:48:09] good, working on a design of a bike [10:48:25] nice [10:48:37] Iderik i have for you calculations you asked about. [10:49:43] lukas, thanks! :) [10:53:12] *** Joins: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-r6al57.mweb.co.za) [10:58:14] Iderik, http://dev.rbose.org/files/bike_estimates.ods [11:03:19] Kebap, you may want to have a look as well ^ [11:07:19] lukas, i though there was calculations and not only results. you talked about loss in each sub-system and such [11:07:54] this form is dynamic, you have there formulas [11:08:59] it's calculating output whenever you change input, at least if your app is configured this way [11:09:43] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-qhr.tbm.27.41.IP) [11:09:45] oh ye, i see excel :) [11:10:10] excel sux, it's ods (open document standard) [11:10:33] if you are asking about analytic formulas then i would need to publish it in another format [11:11:49] ^^ OpenDocument Spreadsheet actually [11:11:58] Yes :D [11:13:18] Hey you hear Mark Shuttleworth was contemplating adding Chrome or Chromium as the future browser in Ubuntu after 11.10? [11:14:42] No, but there is to much money and politics in this distro since a while, really disturbing. [11:16:02] Agreed. Especially since Ubuntu One. [11:16:25] Yes. [11:17:33] I don't understand why Canonical had to make a shitty cloud store when I can easily pirate and sync my Android and all my computers to Google Music..or if I really wanted to buy music, CDBaby or Jamendo. [11:19:15] hi JoshStrobl [11:19:19] Yo [11:19:25] and all you others around =) [11:19:48] I think they are using server cloud to provide proprietary services among others, and giving a service is not the same as distributing software. Moglen had a nice talk about it, let me find it for you. [11:20:01] Moglen <3 [11:20:17] JoshStrobl: but indeed =) [11:20:51] there you go: http://www.archive.org/details/isoc-ny1710 [11:20:52] URL Title: Eben Moglen - Freedom in The Cloud : Joly MacFie : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive [11:21:16] Thanks. Checking it out now [11:21:24] great speach that! [11:22:38] I'm not sure who is cooler, Richard Stallman or Eben Moglen. My opinion is Eben Moglen. [11:34:25] Caly, the initial calculations i mentioned to you yesterday about a cost of a trip to Spain at 0.25 euro were just a crap. I messed up there food calories and calories. But now it seems you could theoretically do it at 4.5 euro (based on local electricity prices over here), if you would be able to charge batteries during the trip... You would need 35 kWh energy total (traveling at speed 50km per hour with total mass 200kg). The assumed efficiency atm is at level [11:34:27] 75%, but i seen info about engines 85% and above. [11:34:28] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Energy_conversion_efficiency#Example_of_energy_conversion_efficiency [11:34:29] URL Title: Energy conversion efficiency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [11:34:32] *** Quits: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-r6al57.mweb.co.za) (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [11:42:15] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-n06gbt.student.uu.se) (Connection closed) [11:48:31] http://img11.allegroimg.pl/photos/oryginal/16/49/48/87/1649488718 1000W, max 35km/h, 45km range when connected to a battery with 17Ah capacity [11:50:55] time required to charge batteries is a problem... 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[12:53:47] *** Joins: unplug (unplug@RBOSE-r94khh.dip.t-dialin.net) [12:53:51] hi [13:02:26] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-73o.a2a.28.41.IP) [13:13:08] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-73o.a2a.28.41.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [13:17:53] o/ unplug [13:21:47] you're welcome kman, that's just a start point [13:22:36] Id love to hear more about that when im finished with my slave work ^^ [13:23:40] *** Quits: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@RBOSE-2ej.pbu.200.193.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [13:27:16] sure thing! :) [15:35:58] *** Quits: lukas (lukas@RBOSE-gkfu2h) (Quit: ) [16:14:38] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-222s7t.student.uu.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [16:52:22] *** Joins: Hakufu_ (jsajfsagj@RBOSE-olc.880.58.109.IP) [16:54:25] *** Quits: Hakufu (jsajfsagj@RBOSE-lqc6gf.bredband.tre.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [16:55:27] *** Joins: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-ghv.b04.27.41.IP) [17:10:06] *** Quits: Hakufu_ (jsajfsagj@RBOSE-olc.880.58.109.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [17:32:49] *** Joins: Hakufu (jsajfsagj@RBOSE-olc.880.58.109.IP) [17:43:30] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-ghv.b04.27.41.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [17:58:49] *** Joins: Hakufu_ (jsajfsagj@RBOSE-olc.880.58.109.IP) [17:58:49] *** Quits: Hakufu (jsajfsagj@RBOSE-olc.880.58.109.IP) (Connection closed) [18:00:06] *** Joins: unplug_ (unplug@RBOSE-de821c.dip.t-dialin.net) [18:01:49] *** Quits: Iderik (iderik@RBOSE-95pgg9.mobileonline.telia.com) (Connection closed) [18:07:05] *** Quits: unplug (unplug@RBOSE-r94khh.dip.t-dialin.net) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [18:18:25] *** Joins: DNS (DNS777@RBOSE-9qsbr8.superkabel.de) [18:46:21] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-222s7t.student.uu.se) [18:48:26] Afternoon everyone [18:55:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MuXgpl2Sxg&sns=fb [18:55:14] You4Tube 2[Title] Leaked Pentagon Video - Flu Vaccine Use to Modify Human Behavior 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:05:46 2[Views] 303 2[Rating] 4.89 2[Uploaded] 2011-06-16 2[Description] What you are about to hear is not science fiction or conspiracy theory but a glimpse of what is going on behind the closed doors of the United States Pentagon. 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[22:42:04] (i have no reference for that statement) [22:45:53] do you think its good time to grow quinoa? ive read only that leader of the Inca grow them at the beginning of spring [22:46:34] but i havent golden shovel [22:47:09] btw i bought goya seeds last time [22:47:20] its very interesting [22:47:37] becouse the best seeds are from china [22:48:19] and its enough to buy dried fruit goya [22:49:00] soak them for 2 hours [22:49:45] after pick seeds from the fruit [22:50:16] and sit in pots [22:50:19] Well you know iv heard that a golden shovel is the absolute minimum for growing quinoa, so i dont think you should go for it. Jokes aside, i have no experience with it and im really more keen to look into growing industrial hemp. [22:51:17] * give to the pots [22:51:23] hahaha [22:51:36] im too but here its illegal [22:52:25] you need to have a spacial agreemant to grow hemp [22:52:26] I think you need a special license for it in Sweden. [22:52:32] Yeah... [22:53:18] But goya looks interesting! Id really hesitate before i buy and plant seeds i get from the local food store. Its impossible to verify the quality of the seed. [22:53:47] You never know what the growers select their crops for (taste, color or maybe just how fast the produce harvest for example) [22:54:02] However, if thats your only source for it, whats there to do.. [22:54:10] goya has a lot of vitamine C [22:55:13] Many medicinal uses it seems. [22:55:29] Cardioprotective, antiviral, immunomodulating etc. [22:55:30] and very good growing until -28 degrees [22:55:44] degrees C? ^^ [22:56:33] sorry -26 degrees C [22:57:23] Awesome! Found a swedish supplier of the seeds for it. [22:57:56] To late to grow it for this season though.. Unless i use my grow light and pots. [22:58:02] "This follows from the fact that the Chinese have many common varieties of goya so the seeds of Chinese origin will give the plants similar to "parents", and that means greater productivity and faster yielding" [22:58:49] two-year vine can give 2 kg fruit [22:59:55] Its a perennial? [23:00:03] Wow. [23:00:47] Thanks for telling! Im definitely orderinging it along with some more Arabica beans (want to give coffee growing a shot this winter) [23:01:06] *** Joins: ane (qWEBirc@RBOSE-1gh2h9.adsl.tpnet.pl) [23:01:26] back, this computer not working very good [23:01:41] hello all [23:01:46] :) [23:01:52] Hi DNS [23:02:17] hi ane [23:02:42] que tal? [23:03:15] como estas? [23:03:28] *** Quits: iamme (iamme@RBOSE-60l.pd8.31.41.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [23:04:47] two-year vine can give 2 kg fruit [23:04:47] Its a perennial? [23:04:47] Wow. [23:04:47] Thanks for telling! Im definitely orderinging it along with some more Arabica beans (want to give coffee growing a shot this winter) [23:04:47] btw animals can eat the leaves of goya [23:06:34] I love all gourd plants btw! The fruit is very expressive. [23:06:50] *** Quits: anna (qWEBirc@RBOSE-1gh2h9.adsl.tpnet.pl) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [23:06:55] The hybrids are very beautiful. [23:08:20] ane: Est a m bien, gracias. Y T? [23:08:27] muy bien [23:08:30] :) [23:11:33] and tomorrow after two years of asking ppl i wiil get seedlings of amaranth [23:13:40] !w amaranth [23:13:42] Amaranth | Amaranthus, collectively known as amaranth, is a cosmopolitan genus of herbs. Approximately 60 species are recognized, with inflorescences and foliage ranging from purple and red to gold. Members of this genus share many characteristics and uses with members of the closely related genus Celosia. Although several species are often considered weeds, people around the world value amaranths as [23:13:43] leaf vegetables, cereals, and ornamentals. A traditional food plant in Africa, amaranth has the potential to improve nutrition, boost food security, foster rural development and support sustainable landcare. The ultimate root of "amaranth" is the Greek ἀμάραντος (amarantos) "unfading" with the Greek word for "flower" ἄνθος @ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaranth [23:13:55] Whats up with the spanish ? ^^ [23:14:07] !w .es amaranth [23:14:10] Amaranth | Amaranth es el decimosexto single de la banda finlandesa de metal sinfónico, Nightwish, y el segundo en el que la vocalista principal es Anette Olzon. El 24 de agosto de 2007, el sitio oficial de la banda informó de que "Amaranth" había logrado estatus de oro en su país nativo, Finlandia, dos días después de su lanzamiento, logrando ventas de más de 5,000 singles. El 29 de agosto, fue [23:14:11] anunciado en el mismo sitio que "Amaranth" había llegado a los primeros puestos de la lista finlandesa de éxitos. El 6 de septiembre, la web también anunció que el single había llegado al puesto #1 de las listas de Hungría y España. La canción iba a ser inicialmente un bonus track, así como lo afirmo en la entrevista de Madrid. E @ http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaranth [23:14:19] ;D [23:14:46] *** Joins: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-cn22bv.pool.telekom.hu) [23:14:52] *** Parts: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-cn22bv.pool.telekom.hu) [23:16:57] kman, yes goya is parennial [23:19:16] kman, si nosotros aprendemos espanol ;) mi gusta mucho viajar ;) [23:19:41] *a mi me gusta mucho viajar [23:21:21] en bicicleta ;P [23:25:35] o lukas j dorme? [23:26:52] no se [23:27:21] sorry that was my weird portuguese lol [23:27:35] Yeah.. Couldnt quite follow you there.. 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