[00:01:10] bike as in bicycle ? :D [00:21:13] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-hhm.9h0.94.93.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [00:43:13] *** Joins: Grits (plautus@RBOSE-jr6cgo.client.mchsi.com) [01:02:15] yo [01:02:32] g'day grits [01:05:41] what's up [01:06:16] math. :X [01:06:38] for what [01:06:55] http://zenhabits.net/google-free/ [01:06:56] URL Title: How I Became (Mostly) Google-free in About a Day | zen habits [01:09:17] hmm fastmail ey [01:09:29] sup ey [01:09:45] what are you doing math for, Fat64? [01:10:06] to get my degree and to get higher salory [01:10:11] to pay off my loan faster [01:10:18] pretty much. [01:10:24] so you're chasing your tail in other words [01:10:33] I say let machines do math, they're better at it [01:10:33] for a while [01:10:52] it's also preparing for the future :) [01:10:58] the future of what [01:11:06] of getting the fuck out of here [01:11:16] I can tell you how to do that [01:11:19] open door [01:11:20] walk [01:11:29] I want resources my friend [01:11:31] and land [01:11:40] I don't want to squat [01:11:41] I can promise you anywhere you can walk, there will be land [01:11:45] yes [01:11:50] and people to keep me off the land too [01:12:04] and how is practicing math going to stop that [01:12:04] I'm a skinny computer nerd. I can't fight them off. [01:12:18] math leads to more money, money leads to me getting that land [01:12:19] x) [01:12:33] so what you're saying more or less is you're relying on the monetary system to save you [01:12:39] a vain hope if there ever was one [01:12:48] ofc I am [01:12:52] everyone is using the monetary system. [01:12:55] in case you havent notice [01:13:00] speak for yourself [01:13:17] when I say everyone I dont include peeps who live completely offgrid. [01:13:18] I really don't use it except under extreme circumstances [01:13:29] that's good but you're not even on the radar [01:13:31] :T [01:13:42] statistics is a beautiful thing [01:13:49] if you insist [01:13:53] and yes I hate the monetary system, but I intend to ride on it to get out of it [01:14:10] because I am not much of a hardcore rebel x) [01:14:20] what you're doing is making it that much harder for me to do what I'm doing [01:14:31] yes, so is everyone else [01:14:46] even people offgrid use the monetary system. [01:14:47] I don't happen to be conversing with everyone else right now, just you [01:14:49] but my plan is to get out of it. which the rest are not [01:14:54] that's perfectly fine [01:15:01] scrdcow: mm [01:15:05] but less :) [01:15:09] you can't get out of it by using it [01:15:18] Grits: that's just romantic [01:15:19] it's like trying to dry off by swimming [01:15:27] trying to make peace by fighting [01:15:29] etcetera [01:15:33] no x) [01:15:43] you can call it "romantic" if you like [01:15:46] Grits: so how do you make a living without using the monetary system a bit? [01:15:50] if I lose the loan, that's good right? [01:15:59] but the bottom line is as long as people like you insist on "riding it out", I have no choice but to suffer under this system [01:16:19] yeah, but we're slowly getting out of it [01:16:28] I've been borned and raised this way, there is really no room for options [01:16:29] I do use it, scrdcow, when I have no other choice and necessity imposes it on me [01:16:41] I haven't even seen a different way of life until just a few years ago [01:16:46] but I consciously choose not to use it at every opportunity [01:16:53] so I intend to ride it out :D [01:17:02] thanks for helping to make the world a hell [01:17:04] Grits: how often is that? and how much? [01:17:11] it varies, scrdcow [01:17:17] Grits: on average. [01:17:25] average over what, a day? [01:17:27] a year? [01:17:29] my whole life? [01:17:33] I can't answer your question [01:17:44] Grits: a week maybe, or a month. [01:17:49] Grits: some estimation. [01:17:51] Grits: you're welcome <3 [01:18:09] over the course of a typical week I use money approximately zero times [01:18:09] if you suggest ideas I will listen [01:18:36] I grow as much of my own food as I possibly can [01:18:41] I drink and cook and clean with rainwater [01:18:47] where do you live? [01:18:54] I use photovoltaics for electricity [01:18:59] cool beans [01:19:01] Grits: how did you get the land? [01:19:07] southern Illinois [01:19:15] I used money, scrdcow [01:19:23] Grits: and I intend to use money to get the land [01:19:30] 5:::::::::::::D [01:19:57] I prefer a transition than a clean break [01:20:10] a clean break would always include some kind of interaction with the monetary system indirectly anyways [01:20:22] Grits: don't get me wrong. your on the right track. and you are far less dependent than many others. but it's not always that easy to just break it loose without no money, no land, no nothing. [01:20:33] I still have to pay property taxes to the county or they'll take "my" land away [01:21:38] Fat64: how much do you have left of your studing? [01:21:38] scrdcow, I think you misunderstand me, I'm not saying to do everything (or stop doing everything) but do SOMETHING [01:21:44] instead of diving head first into it [01:22:00] scrdcow: this 7.5hp course. [01:22:16] Grits: but sometimes it's the quickest way. I have no education. for me to work money for a land, it will take alot of time. [01:22:28] (atleast no higher education...) [01:22:33] it took me less than six months, scrdcow [01:22:33] Grits: I grow veggies, I help other grow veggies and I am learning more everyday on how to live without money.. :) it's on [01:23:01] my money is just buffering til I can go buy my land [01:23:24] then what [01:23:43] then we have a big bbq [01:23:46] and make love [01:23:47] ahh [01:23:55] open up wwoofing [01:24:04] Fat64: can I make love with you on the bbq party? [01:24:06] let the hard times begin ;D [01:24:12] scrdcow: I'm open for business <3 [01:24:29] thx! :-D [01:24:35] we can dress up real neat [01:24:41] and carve out our own instruments [01:24:44] I would love to do that [01:25:45] hehe [01:26:02] gemüse orchestra [01:26:57] http://www.vegetableorchestra.org/ [01:26:58] URL Title: The Vegetable Orchestra - home [01:27:01] haha [01:27:12] bloody awesome [01:27:21] Jürgen [01:27:35] maybe it's not the same, but I saw one orchestra like this a couple of years ago. [01:28:02] the played on the instruments, had a show, then they cooked food with it and surved the audience :-D [01:28:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpfYt7vRHuY [01:28:09] You4Tube 2[Title] the vegetable orchestra 2[Category] Music 2[Duration] 0:05:56 2[Views] 2849386 2[Rating] 4.70 2[Uploaded] 2007-03-24 2[Description] Worldwide one of a kind, the Vegetable Orchestra performs on instruments made of fresh vegetables. The utilization of various ever refined vegetable instruments creates a musically and aesthetically unique sound universe. http://www.vegetableorchestra.org ----- december 4th, 2007: wo [01:29:00] radical =) [01:29:07] hehe, k-rad [01:29:12] haha [01:30:30] the carrots must be pretty easy to work with [01:30:36] yes [01:30:44] ask the people at fuck for forest ;-( [01:30:50] gigglz [01:31:06] I found one of their releases on animal right torrent tracker. [01:31:09] Grits: please tell, how much do you pay tax for your land? [01:31:14] ah ok :D [01:31:17] it was pretty lousy porn but still funny hehe [01:31:30] ^ [01:31:53] my taxes are $108 a year [01:31:55] the yellow paprika instruments about 5:00 in sounds funny :-D [01:32:03] I pay it with money, of course [01:32:04] bell pepper even [01:32:20] -s [01:32:26] hm 108. that's pretty ok [01:32:35] I own about half an acre [01:32:44] I say "own" euphemistically [01:32:53] because as I said if I don't pay taxes they take it away [01:33:04] mm :( [01:33:05] so I don't really see how you can say I own it [01:33:10] you rent it yes [01:33:15] essentially [01:33:25] I guess that's how it is everywhere in the world [01:33:36] until we can get that changed, yes [01:33:59] Fat64: well, you can buy land here in sweden and own it. [01:34:08] and OWN it? [01:34:18] Fat64: yes? or what do you mean? [01:34:24] with no taxes every year? [01:34:47] that is, you pay a hefty sum once, and then it's yours. You do not have to pay a single krona from point go. [01:35:21] Fat64: don't think so. [01:36:03] Fat64: du har ju dock fastighetsskatt. [01:36:21] Fat64: men jag vet inte ett piss. har dock aldrig hört om någon som betalt skatt för land. [01:36:40] ok [01:36:44] I will ask around [01:37:01] gotta run [01:37:04] me2 [01:37:07] Grits: hugs! [01:37:09] *** Quits: Grits (plautus@RBOSE-jr6cgo.client.mchsi.com) (Quit: Leaving) [01:39:55] Fat64: verkar inte finnas markskatt. [01:40:22] ok :o [01:40:24] ballt [01:43:51] så jag kan äga mark i sverige? [01:43:54] vad säger staten om det, låter konstigt [01:43:59] jag är ju bara en liten sketen privatperson [01:45:13] hmm [01:45:27] jag vet ju nite hur det är rent juridiskt. [01:45:37] jag menar, sveriges rikes lagar gäller ju. [01:45:57] men jag antar att det inte finns någon sådan skatt. förmögenhetsskatten togs ju bort 2007. [01:47:43] men jag undersöker fastighetsskatt nu om det inkluderar enbart mark. [01:49:02] ah [01:49:08] hmm. har nog inte rätt... [01:49:15] mark verkar räknas som fastighet enligt jordabalken [01:49:21] (enligt wp) [01:50:54] wp = ? [01:50:58] wikipedia [01:51:02] x) ok [01:51:11] mark är fastighet. [01:53:32] tydligen kan man ha 3d-fastighet hehe [01:53:36] 3d [01:53:38] :D ok [01:53:41] till skillnad mot 2d? [01:53:42] som avgränsas både horisontellt och vertikalt [01:53:59] så man kanske bara kan ha fastighet som är lika hög som ens gröder växer ;-) [01:54:09] kanske billigare då ;-) [01:56:29] men jag orkar inte undersöka det genomgripande nu. för jag skulle plugga lojban innan (lite mer viltgryta och...) sovdags. [02:03:26] gör det [02:03:27] puss [02:03:37] jag ska sova nu i tid [02:03:44] ge bort p3:a imorgon :D [02:05:32] godnatt [02:39:30] *** Quits: Hadlock (qwebirc@RBOSE-ku0ihm.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [02:39:53] *** Joins: hadlock (qwebirc@RBOSE-ku0ihm.res.rr.com) [06:11:15] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE.org) (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 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[09:23:19] :D [09:23:21] already up [09:23:25] me to0 [09:23:29] hi Evil :D [09:23:32] i was sleepin about 18 hours [09:23:34] hahaha [09:23:38] loool [09:23:38] O_O [09:24:11] ,quote random [09:24:11] Evil: Quote #132: "If you're havin' IE problems, I feel bad for you, son - I got 99 problems but a browser ain't one. ~ DJ Danger Mime" (added by dns at 10:04 PM, October 22, 2010) [09:24:20] my body waited to rest and its funny thats its still workin like that [09:24:46] i mean if i stay up for long next day, if i am able, i can sleep for whole day [09:24:48] :D [09:25:14] * DNS feels fresh now [09:25:16] lol [09:25:18] if i sleep long then i feel like i am dead LOL [09:25:26] lol [09:25:57] 6/7 hours is perfect [09:26:20] 40 hours up, 20 hours sleep [09:26:23] :D [09:26:24] lol [09:26:27] whaha [09:26:40] Evil: i need a bit more :) [09:28:20] `fortune [09:28:20] Evil: Your talents will be recognized and suitably rewarded. [09:28:26] haha [09:28:39] ,quote random [09:28:39] DNS: Quote #91: "on first priority in design consideration is the full realization of individual potential in order to reach the second derivative: full realization for all individuals ~ Buckminster Fuller" (added by Kebap at 10:20 PM, August 05, 2010) [10:19:25] *** Joins: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-cn22bv.pool.telekom.hu) [11:05:02] *** Joins: jscinoz (jscinoz@RBOSE-68c.aj6.104.58.IP) [11:05:04] *** Quits: jscinoz (jscinoz@RBOSE-68c.aj6.104.58.IP) (Quit: Lost terminal) [11:36:34] *** Joins: jscinoz (jscinoz@RBOSE-68c.aj6.104.58.IP) [11:39:09] *** Quits: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-cn22bv.pool.telekom.hu) (Connection closed) [12:32:35] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-hhm.9h0.94.93.IP) [12:34:42] Afternoon ppl [13:14:17] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-ta53m0.bredband.skanova.com) [13:14:35] -nobody- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [13:47:23] o/ Caly [13:48:16] \0/ [13:56:05] -nobody- tropology has joined on FREENODE [13:57:35] !idle scrdcow [13:57:37] lol? O_o I guess you wanna be funny, scrdcow. [13:57:45] apparently [14:31:44] apparently [15:55:51] *** Joins: Suspect (qwebirc@RBOSE-32dg8q.bredband.comhem.se) [16:04:25] *** Quits: jscinoz (jscinoz@RBOSE-68c.aj6.104.58.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [16:35:20] Hi Suspect [17:05:47] *** Joins: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-cn22bv.pool.telekom.hu) [17:06:19] *** Parts: dirt (dirt@RBOSE-cn22bv.pool.telekom.hu) [18:24:21] `fortune [18:24:21] Evil: You are destined to become the commandant of the fighting men of the department of transportation. [18:24:36] huh [18:24:38] `fortune [18:24:38] Evil: Q: What's the difference betweeen USL and the Graf Zeppelin? A: The Graf Zeppelin represented cutting edge technology for its time. [18:26:18] =) [18:52:04] 11<11Viper@FREENODE11> `voice tropology calyp [18:52:06] -nobody- mode change by nobody on FREENODE: +vv tropology Calyp [19:01:52] *** Joins: Grits (plautus@RBOSE-jr6cgo.client.mchsi.com) [19:02:05] what's up [19:29:53] yo Grits! [19:30:09] yo [19:38:47] Grits i build lab PSU from Pc PSU lol [19:38:58] What's a PSU? [19:39:32] Power Supply Unit [19:41:20] that's awesome [19:41:28] how steady is the voltage? [19:41:42] it works great [19:41:59] need to make it nice but here some data http://www.rbose.org/wiki/Lab_psu [19:42:00] URL Title: Lab psu - RBOSE [19:42:21] http://www.rbose.org/wiki/images/graphviz/Lab_psu---digraph+net2.png [19:42:51] Fat64 i can connect any PC PSU to it [19:46:07] beautiful graphs! beautiful pics :)) [19:46:55] some psu have -5 volt [19:47:01] i dont have it [19:47:05] its white cable [19:47:14] old one have it [19:47:54] Fat64 nice thing is i can shurtcut it it just goes off after reset works fine again [19:50:59] *** Joins: AlizeeYa (qwebirc@RBOSE-c8c.f0c.73.217.IP) [19:53:27] What do you use it for in a lab? [19:53:43] *** Quits: AlizeeYa (qwebirc@RBOSE-c8c.f0c.73.217.IP) (Quit: Page closed) [19:54:04] at home [19:54:19] Grits i want build/make a stepmotor [19:54:29] and some other crap from trash :D [19:54:47] What's a stepmotor? [19:56:12] http://www.piclist.com/images/www/hobby_elec/e_step1.htm [19:56:13] URL Title: Operation principle of stepper motor [19:57:58] `wiki stepmotor [19:58:00] Evil: I didn't find anything for "stepmotor". Did you mean "stepmother"? [19:58:01] Evil: "Stepfamily" (Redirect from "Stepmother"): [19:58:03] Evil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepfamily [19:58:04] Evil: If a stepparent legally adopts the partner's child or children, he or she becomes their legal parent. In such cases they may stop using the terms "stepparent" and "stepchild" and simply refer to the child as their son or daughter. However, some of the emotional and psychological issues common to stepfamilies may still persist. [19:58:04] URL Title: Stepfamily - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [19:58:06] LOL [19:58:19] NO Not stepmother stupid wiki [19:59:50] Grits you can make reprap or CNC with it [20:00:24] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Stepper_motor [20:00:26] URL Title: Stepper motor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [20:00:34] ahh [20:00:45] hi Grits :) [20:00:47] or any number of other things, I imagine [20:00:51] yeah [20:01:01] precision devices [20:01:27] Fat64 do you know more about H bridges? [20:01:35] Because i know 0 about them lol [20:02:06] Evil: i know a bit about these :) [20:02:40] :) [20:07:38] yeah lukas i need to build some kinda model to test them [20:07:43] i dont have arduino yet [20:08:30] you don't need arduino to test H bridge, you may use just AA batteries for example :) [20:20:51] !dance Evil [20:20:53] ACTION starts a slowdance and grabs the ass of Evil in #RBOSE [20:23:30] :) [20:27:02] I'll be glad when this heat wave breaks, I can finally start getting some needed work done [20:27:31] As it is now I only have a few hours of daylight in the morning before it becomes too hot to do much of anything. [20:28:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVgFz8b1Db4 [20:28:15] You4Tube 2[Title] MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS ~♫~ (LOVE IS LIKE A) HEATWAVE 2[Category] Music 2[Duration] 0:04:28 2[Views] 34706 2[Rating] 4.96 2[Uploaded] 2009-12-15 2[Description] MARTHA & THE VANDELLAS - (LOVE IS LIKE A) HEATWAVE. Whenever I'm with him Something inside Starts burning And I'm filled with desire, Could it be the devil in me? Or is this the way love's supposed to be? (Chorus) It's like a heat wave It's burning in m [20:28:17] \o/ [20:31:48] Grits dig a cave :D [20:32:35] I've built a hut out of earthbags [20:32:50] I need to get a lot of firewood ready for the winter [20:33:01] Grits is it dry or wet air? [20:33:07] very humid [20:33:16] oh that is like hell [20:33:39] I have a bunch of downed limbs piled up, I've been dismantling some of them the last few days early in the morning. [20:33:54] if its dry can be 40 C no problem [20:33:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG9m-6dVKRI [20:33:59] I'm using the smallest branches to burn off some tall grass on my property. [20:34:00] You4Tube 2[Title] Martha and The Vandellas - Nowhere To Run (Ready Steady Go - 1965) 2[Category] Education 2[Duration] 0:03:07 2[Views] 6604 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2011-01-05 2[Description] PLEASE NOTE: I divided my uploads between multiple channels, Bookmark this link in your browser for instant access to an index with links to all of John1948's oldies classics. LINK: http://tinyurl.com/Channel-Index Martha and the Vandellas ( [20:34:35] I'm collecting the larger branches to burn in my wood stove next winter. [20:35:00] Once I get this finished I'll have a better idea how much more wood I need to collect. [20:38:21] Grits: how cold winters you get there? could you say one more time in which state you are, please? [20:47:49] Illinois [20:47:55] the south part [20:48:03] The winters aren't bad at all. [20:50:13] btw guys, iasked a few days ago if some1 can please test gnutrition [20:50:24] wtf is gnutrition [20:50:25] somebody did meanwhile? i have no feedback so far [20:50:30] https://launchpad.net/~dns/+archive/gnu [20:50:31] URL Title: GNU : DNS [20:50:37] http://www.gnu.org/s/gnutrition/ [20:50:39] URL Title: GNUtrition - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation [20:50:56] i need to know if my debian packages work well [20:51:07] so please let me know guys [20:51:47] DNS, iv been up to my ears with cleaning my storage before i move in to the new place next week. I will test it. [20:51:56] But it will wait until next week :/ [20:52:02] ok :) [20:52:42] DNS only download it? [20:52:44] Or umm [20:53:00] installin, testing, find bugs or be happy with workin one [20:53:02] :D [20:53:25] ok, let me test what it is too [20:53:51] DNS, I added your ppa. [20:54:02] kool [20:54:07] are you on slaine? [20:54:40] slaine = trisquel 4.5 [20:55:12] xubuntu 10.04 on my netbook [20:55:18] k [20:55:53] to install gnutrition after addin my ppa just: sudo apt-get install gutrition [20:55:56] ehm [20:56:03] *to install gnutrition after addin my ppa just: sudo apt-get install gnutrition [20:56:05] typo [20:56:21] This dingbat I know told her daughter she'd give her $40 a month to keep her room clean. Then she asked me if I thought it was a good deal for the kid. [20:56:59] DNS, why they cannot use sqlite? [20:57:17] well in upcoming version [20:57:21] DNS, I'm installing gnutrition, don't r00t my box [20:57:45] current dev status is quite bleed [20:57:52] i mean for 0.4 [20:58:15] so i wait till they did a bit more on that [20:58:29] I'm opting for the safer version the package manager offers me. [20:58:47] Grits: i jus made the debian packages for the apps in my ppa i dont modified sourcees [20:59:19] just some are patched thru have correct settings in ubuntu [20:59:28] *** Quits: Suspect (qwebirc@RBOSE-32dg8q.bredband.comhem.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [20:59:31] like for example system folders fixed [21:00:07] well you can exactly see what i did [21:00:11] I don't have mysql installed. [21:00:14] all is free software [21:00:36] you need mysql for the current gnutrition version [21:00:46] its needed to create the database [21:01:14] I don't know how to operate a mysql server. [21:01:19] ez [21:01:30] just install it and set root pass [21:02:10] https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/mysql.html [21:02:11] URL Title: MySQL [21:02:23] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/mysql.html [21:02:24] URL Title: MySQL [21:03:48] DNS, I'm working on it, eating a little pasta at the same time so I'm multitasking. [21:03:57] ok:) [21:06:47] DNS, the root account is "root"? [21:07:02] yes [21:07:09] the login [21:07:14] got it [21:07:52] ZOMG DNS HAS R00TED MAH BOX [21:08:02] lolek [21:08:34] now i take all your boxes to attack central banks [21:08:36] hahah kj [21:08:39] *jk [21:08:58] would be stupid to put somethin like that in a ppa [21:09:09] would make more sense to make a makemoney.exe [21:09:11] lol [21:09:17] lol [21:09:19] to root boxen [21:09:35] DNS has the l33t hax [21:13:53] DNS, I created a recipe and saved it, it works fine. [21:14:01]