[00:57:32] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-1vjua3.student.uu.se) (Connection closed) [01:06:56] 03<14magnetron@FREENODE03> `f [01:06:57] 04<03nobody@FREENODE04> magnetron: Sometimes I wonder if I'm in my right mind. Then it passes off and I'm as intelligent as ever. -- Samuel Beckett, "Endgame" [01:07:14] WTF, they have google ads INSIDE youtube videos nowadays? [01:08:02] scrdcow i use flashreplacer [01:09:39] scrdcow they use that long time ago btw [01:09:55] scrdcow even when i was on Windows LOL [01:12:06] ok, seems that my adblocking has solved it all the time before. [01:12:14] but now i'm running without adblocking. [01:12:45] haven't gotten flashreplacer to work with youtube iirc. [01:13:12] or maybe it was some other error. [01:14:05] scrdcow in firefox check for flashvideo replacer addon [01:14:12] I have tried it. [01:14:19] works great on yt vimeo and some other sites [01:14:36] something didn't work for me. but will try it again a third time. [01:14:47] for me works out of the box [01:16:25] something fucked up and some javashit didn't seem to work correctly. I had to remove my configs and try without, it worked. [01:16:36] not sure what the error is thou. [01:16:47] don't want to have to reconfig everything again. [01:16:51] have to solve it later. [01:17:40] scrdcow you can just disable all plugins then turn on one by one to find out the wrong one [01:17:49] it's not plugins. [01:18:07] I have tried that already. it's javascript stuff. [01:18:11] i did not set up all stuff on my browser yet [01:18:42] I've had this config for many years hehe [01:18:48] don't remember all the shit I have changed. [01:22:21] AWESOME! [01:22:34] flash video replacer did work now with newer iceweasel :-D [01:23:36] now I just need to fuck around with devilspy and have it play on my second screen automagically. [01:23:56] New tab or window [01:24:01] just change settings in it [01:24:32] this might be the most awesome thing in a long while. I was planning to actually hack another plugin to make it not only download but also play in external player. [01:24:52] flash suck my diiickckckckckc [01:24:55] :-D [01:24:55] you can even play it with vlc [01:25:07] with flashvideo replacer [01:25:07] yes, playing with mplayer now. [01:25:29] the problem before as I remember now was that it didn't want to start playing. [01:25:47] oh the new icecat support html5 i think iceweasel too [01:26:06] then you dont need any flash [01:26:22] now I just need to get devilspy to recognize the window and do it's magic [01:26:27] you do. [01:26:29] not everything is webm. [01:27:01] and I still get it inside the browser. the way I don't want it. [01:27:15] I want the browsing in a browser, and the playing in an external player. [01:27:20] the way it's now :-D [01:31:41] the problem is that devilspy somehow never really managed to understand when I start an mplayer window. [01:35:34] should code some nice script that can handle all the flashvideoreplacer requests and put them in a playlist. [01:36:15] so you can just browse around and add up tracks. [01:37:00] * scrdcow is very happy now :-D [01:37:13] Evil: thx a bunch for mentioning flashvideoreplacer again. [01:37:25] yw [01:37:31] now it's only one pieace of proprietary shit left on my system. [01:37:41] wlan firmware :-D [01:39:09] I "couldn't" really uninstall flash before because I didn't find a good way of browsing youtube as I prefer (with suggestions etc) without flash for every single video etc. [01:40:19] * scrdcow hugs Evil [01:40:27] :-D:-D:-D:-D:-D [01:40:40] Evil: celebration game? hehe [01:41:01] oh no sorry i am falling a sleep [01:41:04] hehe [01:41:12] scrdcow and i dont have it on this system [01:41:37] time goes fast [01:41:53] hehe [01:45:27] if i spill one some litrers oil in sea i would be jail BP Shell spill tons*tons*tons oil. And gov pay them money to clean it up [01:45:39] *in [01:46:17] How do i will turn myself into corporation? Is there a special drink or something haha [01:46:17] yes [01:46:35] so if i fuck up other people pay for it [01:46:41] awesome. now it pins on every workspace, on viewport 2 (second screen), doesn't show in tasklist etc. :-D [01:47:01] Sysinfo for 'evil-god': Linux 2.6.35-30-generic running , CPU: AMD Athlon 7750 Dual-Core at 2711 MHz (5410 bogomips), HD: 294/421GB, RAM: 5641/5981MB, 242 proc's, 2.20d up [01:47:25] oh same goes for radiation [01:47:31] 3.0.0-1-amd64 [01:47:58] model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU M 620 @ 2.67GHz [01:48:11] scrdcow my other system i update it have 3.0.0-3 Ubuntu 11.10 with gnome3 But its fucked up [01:48:16] whole system is broken lol [01:48:27] MemTotal: 3854752 kB [01:48:41] broken how? [01:48:44] gnome 3/unity sucks [01:49:14] scrdcow some how i did 2 upgrades from 10.10 to 11.04 then 11.10 [01:49:21] in one day [01:49:25] installed gnome 3 from experimental, but it didn't seem to be in a good condition yet so I uninstalled most of the parts, but it's still sort of in a 2.30/3.0 state in my system.. some stuff is 3 some is 2.30 ;-D [01:49:39] Evil: ok? [01:49:56] on* [01:50:03] scrdcow yeah i am not sure maybe i upgrade to 11.10 from 10.10 and skin 11.04 [01:50:12] *skup [01:50:17] **skip [01:50:19] you can't do that can you? [01:50:25] I mean, the upgrade manager doesn't allow you? [01:50:35] only LTS -> LTS right? [01:50:52] you can go from 04 to 10 then 04 [01:50:58] but not skip one [01:51:05] yes but not 10.04 -> 11.04 right? [01:51:10] it was 10.04 then 10.10 [01:51:18] exactaly. so how did you do that if it wasn't possible? [01:51:29] isn't* [01:51:38] scrdcow i have no idea i think when i try install gnome3 something whent wrong [01:52:05] scrdcow later i notice its 11.10 lol i could not start GUI [01:52:12] in gui [01:52:55] scrdcow and i have there 3 kernel's [01:52:55] *** Quits: Grits (plautus@RBOSE-sh9k7h.client.mchsi.com) (Connection closed) [01:53:19] you couldn't start what in the gui? [01:53:24] 2.6.35/2.6.38/3.0 [01:53:29] in grub? [01:53:36] graphic user interface [01:54:02] yes, but.. "i could not start GUI", "< Evil> in gui". what do you mean? [01:54:16] scrdcow later i try 4 times upgrade/downgrade it [01:54:46] and what does having three kernels installed having to do with it all? [01:54:47] screcow i could boot only when i try repair and get terminal but could not enter desktop [01:55:03] *** Joins: Grits (plautus@RBOSE-sh9k7h.client.mchsi.com) [01:55:33] ok, boot, go to the console. check dmesg, check if stuff is starting as it should. for ex gdm. [01:55:48] (if ubuntu uses gdm or if they coded their own shit ;-P ) [01:55:54] scrdcow because i was upgrading to 11.04 not 11.10 or kernel 3.0 [01:56:16] maybe 3.0 is included in 11.04? [01:56:35] i check its 11.10 [01:56:45] I don't know how ubuntu does backports etc. [01:57:03] ok, but you sure you didn't do the upgrade? [01:57:04] 11.10 is oneiric and all updataes that it get was from oneiric [01:57:10] oneiric? [01:57:15] yes [01:57:21] what is oneiric? [01:57:31] that how i found out its 11.10 and not 11.04 lol [01:57:53] ah, the name... [01:57:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule [01:57:59] URL Title: OneiricReleaseSchedule - Ubuntu Wiki [01:58:09] ok... not sure what you did actually hehe [01:58:19] but I guess it could be troublesome to downgrade. [01:58:38] maybe you just have to keep on trucking til it gets released and you can do a final upgrade. [01:58:42] i try to downgrade it 10x and removing whole gnome [01:59:02] this is what I love about apt. [01:59:14] you can fuck around tons. but you never really screw things up :-) [01:59:20] scrdcow i think gnome 3 mess it up [01:59:23] I mean, just installing, removing packages etc. [01:59:33] mess excatly what up? [01:59:54] when you move to gnome3 from 2 you cant move back [02:00:03] ofcourse you can. [02:00:06] I did. [02:00:20] just removed the gnome3 packages, and installed the old ones. [02:00:32] i try and remove whole gnome still dont work [02:00:41] a bit of a hassle ofcourse and some stuff was still left. [02:00:45] and then you installed gnome2? [02:01:07] something is broken coz network dont work any more [02:01:29] are you using networkmanager? is it still installed? [02:01:47] scrdcow yeah i think its gone with gnome [02:02:05] either you can just check if the device is configured correctly (/etc/network/interfaces... or ubuntu doesn't use that?) and ifup it yourself. [02:02:22] yes, I think gnome3 doesn't use it... but i'm not sure. [02:02:24] scrdcow i think imess it up too much [02:02:32] some libs are messed up [02:02:56] I removed tons of shit when I went back to gnome2 just because I wasn't really certain what packages it did install. and also I could clean out shit. didn't do a spring cleaning this year hehe [02:03:07] I usually do a spring cleaning every year. [02:03:23] and remove unneeded packages that have been laying around. [02:03:28] scrdcow problem is that now on that system i dont see anything even black/white coz i see only some dots [02:03:35] but nowadays it's easier because orphaned packages get removed by aptitude. [02:03:49] Evil: O_o [02:03:54] yeah [02:04:23] so when it boots that terminal are some dots white dots [02:05:06] Evil: I would boot it up, get to the console. remove every gnome package (meta-packages) and all libgnome-stuff etc. make sure it's all clean. write down stuff that gets removed that you actually want installed. then make sure your using the right repo for the release you actually do run and install gnome2 meta-packages and add the extras. [02:06:04] but if your runnig oneiric and it doesn't have gnome2 packages, I dunno what you can do. [02:06:16] I don't run ubuntu any longer so stuff might be different. [02:06:48] scrdcow i even start from live cd and mount that system to remove gnome stuff [02:06:58] yes? [02:07:08] and then you installed gnome2 no? [02:07:17] no [02:07:21] (from repos for the same release your running) [02:07:28] because first i would like to get at least black/white screen [02:07:29] lol [02:07:39] what do you mean with black/white screen? [02:07:56] you know on boot later you can go to repair [02:08:03] then you get into terminal [02:08:14] so that terminal is all white dots dont see a shit [02:08:25] if your using any splash screen while booting, i'm not sure how it will look when it's booted fully but doesn't have a login manager to run. maybe it's just black. but what happens when you switch to another VT? [02:08:42] I don't now about repair. that seem to be an ubuntu thing. [02:08:54] is it a boot option in grub? [02:08:54] you know you get menu what kernel to boot [02:09:01] yes, grub. [02:09:03] you have there option repair too [02:09:05] the boot loader [02:09:15] for every single kernel installed? [02:09:16] si this works fine then i get into repair menu all is fine [02:09:31] then you can enter terminal or run some clean stuff [02:09:32] what options does it actually have? [02:09:59] it have 5 options or something last 2 are Netroot and root [02:10:17] maybe even more then 5 [02:10:31] retroot O_o.. uhm.. [02:10:43] well.. your not getting to a shell or? [02:10:45] netroot root with network [02:10:51] yeah and that shell is all with dots [02:11:01] with dots? [02:11:04] ... ? [02:11:05] looks like broken monitor [02:11:08] hmm ok. [02:11:13] but if you boot-up without repair? [02:11:18] when i type i see dots change but dont see anything lol [02:11:25] ah I understand. [02:11:30] same i get this dots [02:11:43] *** Quits: Grits (plautus@RBOSE-sh9k7h.client.mchsi.com) (Connection closed) [02:12:23] seems like some driver error then. you can try to find a kernel option for running without that driver or in a different mode (maybe without KMS for ex.) [02:12:32] and try that way. [02:12:52] i think when i update it changed x server [02:12:57] then you can atleast get into the system and fix stuff. or you can start sshd in the blind and logon to it and fix it that way. [02:13:04] but this is before X server. [02:13:22] if you don't even can boot without video errors. [02:13:27] -don't [02:13:36] +can't [02:13:53] and it change something els too [02:14:04] X is started when the login manager is starting. [02:14:06] dont remember name of it something with video [02:14:07] not before that. [02:14:43] I would check out kernel options for the video driver your using and try different modes. maybe without KMS for ex. [02:14:53] and se how that works. [02:14:56] see* [02:15:34] or boot with a different kernel. [02:15:44] the version you used before. [02:15:47] when everything was working. [02:16:01] if you don't really need the never one. [02:16:05] newer* [02:16:33] i try that all 3 kernels all are same [02:16:39] that's really weird. [02:16:57] your running with some boot splash thingie? [02:17:00] thats why irc was down lol [02:17:03] it doesn't show either? [02:17:05] no [02:17:20] ah, thought you were running ircd on a server. [02:17:22] not your desktop. [02:18:37] i have vm [02:19:17] ok [02:19:41] inspircd take sless ram/cpu then supybot lol [02:19:57] I hope to actually get my ass to it and fix my server soon, then I can move all shit of my desktop. [02:20:09] like torrent client, music playing, video playing etc. [02:20:38] and get it on the server so it will never interupt when I do have to reboot, which is not that often thou, but still annoying when I actually do have to. [02:20:59] only problem with video playing thou. I might need to have a different screen [02:21:05] what is broken at server? [02:21:09] nothing [02:21:29] so why you need to fix it? [02:21:32] start using it LOL [02:21:40] I just haven't really gotten it together etc.. [02:21:55] scrdcow do you know how i can add/install my gpu driver on debian? [02:21:59] so i get rid of ubuntu [02:22:03] well I would like to get some different hardware and also I need to learn how to setup virtualization the way I need it [02:22:10] all els i could get working nice on debian [02:22:13] also need to recap and learn tons of security stuff. [02:22:22] so I can do it proper on the main instance. [02:22:48] coz i need 3d/compiz stuff :D [02:22:51] Evil: what card do you have? [02:22:58] ati 2600 [02:23:12] Evil: no working driver in the kernel? [02:23:21] only i 2d [02:23:24] ok. [02:23:36] i need to add something to kernel as in Ubuntu [02:23:36] fglrx or whatever the name is, that supports it? [02:23:45] the proprietary ane? [02:23:46] one* [02:23:50] yeah i think its fglrx [02:23:52] Yes [02:24:03] then just install it :-) [02:24:07] it's in non-free. [02:24:08] i even get driver installed on debian but could not turn on 3d [02:24:45] and glxinfo says it has direct rendering? [02:24:49] so i guess something in kernel was missing [02:25:07] I can help you easier when your sitting in front of the problem and can test stuff and give me feedback. [02:25:18] no I don't think so. [02:25:19] oh now i remember why ubuntu 11.04 sucks badly [02:25:27] but you can check dmesg and see if everything loads correctly. [02:25:34] If i enable/disable 3d my gpu driver i need to reboot every time LOL [02:25:40] on 10.10 i dont need reboot [02:26:02] *** Quits: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) (Connection closed) [02:26:26] I had some problems before with one ati card, not sure if I was running the propretary or the free driver or not but I had problem with KMS, it loaded, but not everything was supported and I got an error that showed up in dmesg. had to revert back to UMS until they fixed it. [02:27:03] then I had problems with 3d stuff, but still glxinfo said it had direct rendering iirc. [02:27:29] oh and on 11.04 compiz dont works [02:27:31] how do you "enable/disable" 3d? [02:27:42] and you have 3d only with uniti Gnome dont have 3d [02:27:55] scrdcow i can enable/disable my gpu driver [02:28:05] in hardware [02:28:09] you mean you unload the module? [02:28:13] scrdcow not gpu but driver [02:28:38] scrdcow in Aditional drivers [02:28:59] ok, you remove the proprietary drivers. [02:29:03] no? [02:29:24] i even install it on debain but still no 3d [02:29:29] then you have to reboot for that to take effect. I mean.. the modules are still loaded even thou the package is removed. [02:29:36] install what? fglrx? [02:29:46] i download it from ati website [02:29:50] you don't have to. [02:29:55] it's included in non-free. [02:30:00] just install it and see how it works. [02:30:29] k i can try it on other system with other ati card [02:30:33] later [02:30:39] if drm is not working. you can check dmesg what it says. and you can check Xorg.0.log [02:30:50] if you don't have a module loading error in dmesg. [02:31:06] would be best to try it with the system/card you actually going to use. [02:31:12] because support can vary. [02:31:17] when i try it and stuck i pm you HAHA [02:31:38] make sure i'm around when you going to troubleshoot and I can help. [02:31:39] scrdcow other one is 2400 i think [02:32:03] I can tell you what to try and you can give me feedback and cut'n paste stuff back so that I can follow. [02:32:27] it's hard to troubleshoot stuff when you have to go throught another persons head instead of getting the raw data from programs/commands :-D [02:32:31] but on this system i have onboard ati 4200 [02:32:41] ok [02:33:00] only if i use it then it take more cpu [02:33:19] you have many desktops? [02:33:27] yes [02:33:39] ok :-) [02:33:39] no [02:33:42] what is many? [02:33:46] more than one hehe [02:33:53] I only have one desktop. my laptop. [02:34:15] s/desktop/workstation/ [02:34:16] i broke 2 of my laptots [02:34:18] I do everything on that. [02:34:24] and other one give away dont like laptops [02:34:50] PC you can upgrade and so on [02:35:03] yes. [02:35:27] I hope I can have this laptop for 5-6 years. [02:35:33] hehe [02:35:48] i toast one [02:35:54] i think stupid usb mous did it [02:35:56] and without any specific upgrades except maybe more ram or some card inside. [02:36:01] I would like to get gps for ex. [02:36:13] oh i had one with gps build in [02:36:29] want to use it for openstreetmap mapping [02:36:33] cycling around in the woods etc [02:36:44] better get palm or something [02:36:46] maybe it's possible to map out berry sites or mushroom sites hehe [02:36:55] some secondhand navigation [02:37:10] atleast I can map out every small road/path. [02:37:11] why? [02:37:15] scrdcow i get openstreetmaps even onmy mobilephone :D [02:37:27] I don't like having tons of different electronics. this way I can have everything in the laptop. [02:37:34] scrdcow coz if you do that with laptop you break in lol [02:37:39] why? [02:37:54] it's not like I bicycle and fall every 10 meters. [02:38:03] and I can have it in the sleeve all the time. [02:38:03] laptops are not made to walk/use it at same time [02:38:17] i'm not going to interact with it at the same time. [02:38:26] but still I could do that, and have done before. [02:38:37] get old navigation [02:38:45] just have to hold it. also it's a thinkpad that is pretty durable. I think it will hold a dropping. [02:38:53] battery goes much longer you can let it on all the time [02:39:00] I have plenty of battery [02:39:01] I have two. [02:39:06] one 6-cell one 9-cell [02:39:08] so how long it goes? [02:39:21] nav can go 24 hours lol [02:39:24] the 6-cell gives me 4h with gnome etc running. not optimized for low battery use that is. [02:39:57] scrdcow for 10$ if you search you can get garmin works nice [02:39:58] if I would go for 24h I would have to camp outside etc.. i'm not planning on going that long/far in one take ;-D [02:40:04] garmin are running linux inside [02:40:16] I don't like to have tons of different electronics. [02:40:47] scrdcow you can get usb gps or bluetooth one [02:41:01] it annoys me that I need to have a digital audio player, but it still ok since I get my mobile phones for free and second hand. [02:41:21] and use old ones. [02:41:37] oh and camera, but that I also get free and second hand. [02:41:53] but if I would by new I would like to have everything in one. but it has to be good. [02:41:59] my phone works as browser/camera/gps/music [02:42:11] my phone is not so new [02:42:15] really like the rockbox firmware and having a hard time parting from that to some crappy music player. [02:42:17] 2 yrs old lol [02:42:32] yes but usually the music players sucks imo. [02:42:48] you can plug it to something strong [02:42:52] i'm used to the features that rockbox have. it's made for playing music. [02:43:22] rockbox iphone? [02:43:29] the only thing I really miss is better SID support and support for various amiga formats. [02:43:36] no, it's firmware for DSPs. [02:43:41] DAPs* [02:43:48] http://www.rockbox.org/ [02:43:49] URL Title: Rockbox - Open Source Jukebox Firmware [02:44:20] I saw a port in the making for android. but I don't want to use android. [02:44:36] atleast not as an active decision as a new bought phone. [02:45:07] only if it's something that someone gave away. [02:45:10] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o [02:45:11] You4Tube 2[Title] George Carlin - Religion is bullshit. 2[Category] Comedy 2[Duration] 0:10:13 2[Views] 10667528 2[Rating] 4.79 2[Uploaded] 2007-03-19 2[Description] George Carlin May 12 1937 - June 22 2008 Thank you George Carlin, your insight was of huge importance for the human race, you will be greatly missed by many. You are forever in our thoughts. Please be civil in your discussion :-) [02:45:16] then I can atleast run some different mod and get rid of the google shit. [02:45:38] i am looking for email host [02:45:41] to replace google [02:45:59] then i will ban google [02:46:01] only yt left [02:46:25] hehe [02:46:41] I have to try to run another search engine for longer than a day or two. [02:47:00] but I have no problem with it if only I'm not getting tracked. [02:47:18] hope googlesharing get's ported to firefox/iceweasel 6 soon. or maybe I should start using tor. [02:47:34] but it's a bit slow and maybe will get on my nerves... but maybe I will get used to it. [02:47:50] scroogle [02:47:52] I friend of mine has been surfing through tor for many years and it seems ok for him. [02:47:55] yes [02:48:00] but it fucks stuff upp imo. [02:48:07] up* [02:48:07] http://search.yippy.com/ [02:48:08] URL Title: Yippy – Welcome to the Cloud. [02:48:21] and https://www.ixquick.com/ [02:48:22] URL Title: Ixquick Search Engine [02:48:32] ixquick is nice. [02:48:46] but I somehow went back to using google, not sure way. [02:49:00] it wasn't like an active decision, maybe just out of habit. [02:49:09] why* [02:50:45] if i'm not getting tracked it's ok until a better options comes. [02:50:50] option* [02:50:57] and I could actually try out different engines more. [02:51:06] and see if one of them sticks. [02:51:14] duckduckgo seems nice though [02:52:12] next usa president http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE4OPMmdPsg [02:52:13] You4Tube 2[Title] NEW: Michele Bachmann Preaching 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:02:13 2[Views] 1395 2[Rating] 1.68 2[Uploaded] 2011-08-28 2[Description] hopefully she will be the President of the United States onkneesforjesus.blogspot.com [02:52:15] LOL [02:52:24] have to retrain my thought and hands. [02:52:30] I don't use search bars, I type www.google.com everytime. [02:53:13] i dont have searchbar :D [02:53:16] haha [02:53:30] it's pretty stupid that I type it but i'm so used to it. [02:53:47] brb, popcorn [02:53:57]