[00:01:04] hi Caly :) yes, i'm here [00:29:48] *** Quits: kalken (default@RBOSE-fp7lvj.bredband.comhem.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [00:48:19] scrdcow: you may have a different experience with it but pulsaudio always always always fucks with my sound, also it was one of the number one ways to get into the kernel with a null pointer dereference sploit. I still don't understand the architectore nor the rationale for using it over plain alsa. for streaming you don't need anyofit, just icecast + liquidsoap [00:49:10] btw, deep fried sushi == win [00:50:55] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn6rvj08__0 [00:50:56] You4Tube 2[Title] Top Gear - The Rally Fighter 2[Category] Entertainment 2[Duration] 0:12:08 2[Views] 980 2[Rating] 4.43 2[Uploaded] 2011-08-30 2[Description] Tanner takes on an airboat in an offroad contraption called the Rally Fighter, [00:51:50] in fact the "sound server" concept has been a fail for the last 4 iterations, what does pulse bring to that table? [00:53:02] Caly, i think it's too small for CNC... http://www.makerbeam.eu/WebRoot/StoreNL/Shops/63128753/4E0B/51C3/80C2/978C/6B62/C0A8/28B8/F963/foto_200_150_1.jpg [00:54:38] Complexity is the enemy of reliability, and the perfect is the enemy of the good. [00:54:40] hi comotion :) no idea [00:54:42] that is cool [00:55:05] makerbeam is cool [00:55:29] hi lukas it's ok, just kill it and don't think about it too hard :d [01:11:12] kill what? [01:12:07] Evil: the pulse audio [01:12:23] then i get audio with no pulse :D [01:12:30] lol [01:27:38] lukas: oh, but you can sandwitch it, use 2 or 3 or 4 beems alongside [01:33:58] Caly: you are probably right, will need to compare costs to other similar profiles [01:34:17] but now gn guys :) [01:49:10] lukas: yeah, and you can couple any kinds with each others if you have adaptor anchors, like the frame my robot picker is made of. 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[14:20:29] -nobody- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Remote host closed the connection) [14:30:03] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-gfhmhq.bredband.skanova.com) [14:30:12] -nobody- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [15:02:13] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-bWyrxUNRY [15:02:14] You4Tube 2[Title] 'Israel should celebrate Palestinians in UN' 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:04:13 2[Views] 25 2[Rating] 3.67 2[Uploaded] 2011-09-09 2[Description] Palestinians have started their campaign for statehood ahead of the upcoming United Nations vote. They carried a letter to the UN mission in Ramallah, saying their rallies will continue until Palestine becomes a member state. Washington meanwhile says it will veto any su [15:16:05] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1YAv_tPmho [15:16:06] You4Tube 2[Title] What's 9/11? Afghans never heard of NYC terror 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:04:36 2[Views] 312 2[Rating] 4.89 2[Uploaded] 2011-09-09 2[Description] Images from 9/11 are still chilling, even 10 years after the attacks shook the world. They triggered the so-called war on terror. But in the country that's been at the forefront of that war, it can be hard to find people who remember why foreign troops arrived in the [15:32:34] *** Joins: idk (idk@RBOSE-9joisi.mobileonline.telia.com) [15:39:33] *** Quits: idk_ (idk@RBOSE-29mikr.mobileonline.telia.com) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [15:47:23] *** Quits: Sixth_Ape (sixth_ape@RBOSE-ncus15.mweb.co.za) (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de) [16:12:19] *** Joins: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) [16:45:50] comotion: until now no fuckings. about security, I dunno. I run it as my own user and i'm not into any specific groups. so I guess it's the same as everything else i'm running. the architecture I now some, but not designwise etc. and for rationale, it has tons of more features (that maybne not everybody needs). you don't use it over using alsa, you use it with alsa. alsa is not a soundserver. it has dmix but is in other ways pretty limited. for streaming I c [16:47:43] comotion: I want to be able to easly switch where my sound get's sent. to my local server or to my stereo-connected one, on a per program basis and on the fly. I also want it easy for people visiting of doing the same. [16:48:11] comotion: I will use icecast thou for streaming over the net. [16:48:23] comotion: when I'm away or just for fun. [16:50:38] comotion: right now I see no other solution that does what I want so that's my rationale. also it's fun to play with. if I wouldn't need/want any of this I would just stick with alsa as usualy. [16:50:42] -y [16:51:23] comotion: maybe you used pulseaudio with ubuntu also? according to one article I read ubuntu have been using old binarys mostly and been pretty buggy. [16:51:38] *** Quits: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) (Connection closed) [16:52:06] comotion: but in debian unstable (today) it's pretty new binary atleast. [17:40:02] *** Joins: kalken (default@RBOSE-fp7lvj.bredband.comhem.se) [18:52:23] that is all correct scrdcow [18:52:53] complexity is the enemy of stability. but to each his own eh [18:53:54] comotion: are you going to fscons this year? [18:54:28] kalken: yeah! [18:54:32] cool! [18:55:42] I am looking forward to it [18:55:47] same here [18:56:22] had an amazing time last year [18:56:49] its one of those places where i can talk about cool stuff, and not be seen as awkward [18:59:20] and everybody there last year seemed to still have the ability to think for themselves. Thats not as common as i'd like it to be in my daily environments :D [19:01:58] yes it's weird isn't it [19:02:07] such a good thing to do, so uncommon... [19:03:26] hehe. Its still quite logical. Most people go through school, learning to be good by taking up a book written by some famous guy, and quote it on an exam a few weeks later [19:04:18] most people are not used to solving problems nobody has solved before [19:05:09] and our environment does not allow for that as much. Good consumers is ppl who buy their way out of trouble [19:06:16] imagine if people started to solve their own problems. All consulting firms would bust over a day :D [19:07:23] heh. I am a consultant [19:07:26] :d [19:07:40] but I don't like it so much [19:08:26] hmm http://freegan.info [19:08:31] URL Title: : freegan.info [19:09:04] comotion: me too ;) [19:09:23] thats why im good at solving my own problems too [19:09:48] don't confuse symptom with disease [19:10:02] I am good at solving own problems therefore I am in consulting [19:10:06] not the other way around [19:10:29] know lots of people where the converse does not hold [19:10:42] hehe. I think i got a job to be able to pay people off [19:11:32] so they will help me. Its strange for me, but if one throws some papers at people, they are able to cooperate for what thats worth... [19:11:57] mental pattern ofc, but not many seem to be aware of that they have it [19:12:15] "thats just the way the world works". Right. [19:13:55] input->mental patterns->output. In open source that means that if there is something wrong with the output, there must be something wrong with either the incentive (input), or the application. [19:25:24] *** Joins: Grits (plautus@RBOSE-5129e5.client.mchsi.com) [19:29:49] so anyways. my thought was that this might not be unique to open source :D [19:40:26] heh that is a genuine insight [19:42:09] ;) [19:43:28] maybe the next step would be to give people a place, where they have the security to take the time to tell the world what they really meant by doing, instead of.. just saying... [19:43:38] http://www.ted.com/talks/skylar_tibbits_can_we_make_things_that_make_themselves.html [19:43:40] Talk title: Skylar Tibbits: Can we make things that make themselves? - MIT researcher Skylar Tibbits works on self-assembly -- the idea that instead of building something (a chair, a skyscraper), we can create materials that build themselves, much the way a strand of DNA zips itself together. It's a big concept at early stages; Tibbits shows us three in-the-lab projects that hint at what a self-assembling future might look like. [19:43:41] Download: http://video.ted.com/talk/stream/2011U/Blank/SkylarTibbits_2011U-320k.mp4 [19:52:02] *** Quits: Grits (plautus@RBOSE-5129e5.client.mchsi.com) (Connection closed) [20:04:43] kalken: I need such a time and space [20:06:10] me too :) [20:07:35] half my days now is allocated to keep away from being eaten by giants :D [20:08:14] so that kind of space would give me half a day more to work, and maybe also keep me sane while doing so :D [20:13:03] i have this crazy thought in my head all the time, that maybe the best for me is to focus on how to improve my surrounding environment. Because how i perceive it, is actually the way i think it is. Its too bad i just cant afford it right now. Optimization of daily life does not allow it. If people start to give more than they take, in that environment. Others will gladly take without even saying thanks [20:14:29] and they do it not because they need, but because they can, and because it gives them security for tomorrow, where they should expect to give something, to get something [20:15:59] but if everybody started giving more than they took, everybody would get more back. So that need for a requirement of trade needs to go away. Then we would see some real improvements to that equation [20:25:31] our current waste echonomy is going down the drain it deserves, because its built up on the basis that tomorrow will be as great or greater than yesterday. e.g a false assumption. Im really curious what comes out of that, but i dont know if its going to be zombie-land (every man for himself), or utopia. That might depend on the people supplying solutions to the people who cant think for themselves... [20:30:29] hi boyz and gurlz [20:30:34] :) [20:30:47] heya! [20:30:59] hi kalken [20:31:27] tada [20:31:30] any news? [20:31:49] * DNS just wants to hear teh good news [20:31:51] lol [20:31:52] the stock market is going down :D [20:31:56] haha [20:32:01] thats no news [20:32:38] lol. For some it is :D [20:32:49] how could this happen? ;D [20:35:20] actually i've met a lot of nice folks this summer [21:15:39] *** Joins: idk_ (idk@RBOSE-4npl7j.mobileonline.telia.com) [21:22:37] *** Quits: idk (idk@RBOSE-9joisi.mobileonline.telia.com) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [21:23:08] !hug DNS [21:23:09] ACTION hugs DNS for lukas and hopes that DNS enjoys it :) [21:24:19] :D [21:24:23] hi lukas [21:25:05] *** Joins: Grits (plautus@RBOSE-5129e5.client.mchsi.com) [21:28:04] !party #RBOSE [21:28:52] :DD [21:29:10] * kalken is having a party by himself. And everybody here is happy [22:03:53] hehe [22:37:37] *** Quits: Grits (plautus@RBOSE-5129e5.client.mchsi.com) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [22:47:32] Hi all [22:48:00] What is stock market? Can you eat it? [22:48:02] lol [23:00:06] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekc4zER1AdQ [23:00:07] You4Tube 2[Title] His death sparked London riots but no police at funeral 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:02:05 2[Views] 309 2[Rating] 3.61 2[Uploaded] 2011-09-09 2[Description] A funeral has been held in London for the man whose death triggered a wave of violent riots across the UK. Father-of-four Mark Duggan was shot dead during a police operation back in August. RT's Laura Emmett reports. RT on Twitter: http://twitter.com/RT_com R [23:11:42] *** Joins: Grits (plautus@RBOSE-5129e5.client.mchsi.com) [23:12:12] a certain overlord of a certain movement has apparently decided that the new web site for his movement won't have a forum [23:12:20] not in the sense that it does now, anyway [23:13:06] from what I've gathered from his statements the "forum" on the new site will just be more or less a giant faq, the moderators will take submissions and decide what goes on it [23:13:26] he also said the new site won't even have a login [23:13:43] I guess he's solved the banning issue by utterly controlling everything that appears on the site in any fashion [23:13:50] so now everyone is banned but the mods [23:13:52] brilliant! [23:15:09] it's hilarious he started out by saying the movement needs to be utterly unified then says later the necessary redundancy only exists because it's not unified [23:15:14] the guy is a goddamned idiot [23:15:37] lol [23:35:35] 0_o [23:35:52] still diggin in the dirt? [23:35:54] lol [23:38:43] *** Quits: Grits (plautus@RBOSE-5129e5.client.mchsi.com) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [23:40:54] :x [23:48:28] lol. http://xkcd.com/922/ [23:48:29] URL Title: xkcd: Fight Club [23:53:05] lol [23:53:48] very good one