[03:12:33] this channel looks today like a news channel [03:12:38] i c only ads :o [03:12:40] lol [03:14:49] ok i c there was chat too [03:32:07] *** Quits: ct2012 (qwebirc@RBOSE-i1n87k.res.rr.com) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [04:34:48] *** Quits: CcSsNET (ccssnet@RBOSE-mmc3nt.ma.comcast.net) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [05:15:40] DNS: :-) the pastes are useful but the chat is the best here at rBOTse [05:15:44] ugh RBOSE [05:16:00] hehe [05:16:20] lol [05:18:11] seems the further north you get the less the 'take the square' movement gathers [05:19:36] http://www.itstactical.com/skillcom/lock-picking/how-to-escape-from-zip-ties/ [05:19:37] URL Title: How to Escape from Zip Ties [05:20:31] actually the pastes are real good, I am still looking for a one-stop news stream filter that is both easy to read and reports on what's actually happening in the world [05:21:14] the pastes at RBOSE are real good for gamma pattern thinking [05:22:01] comotion: do you know we have this #news channel here too? [05:22:04] ;) [05:22:35] rBOTse posts there automatically news from rss and atom feeds [05:22:35] DNS: Error: "posts" is not a valid command. [05:22:42] !slap rBOTse [05:22:42] ACTION slaps rBOTse a bit around #RBOSE with an Open Source solar panel [05:51:31] yes [05:51:38] i am on it [05:53:07] i guess i havnt been there for a while [07:07:27] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-1vjua3.student.uu.se) [07:36:56] morning folks [08:00:57] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-1vjua3.student.uu.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [08:23:25] *** Joins: kalken (default@RBOSE-gitcjf.bredband.comhem.se) [09:47:32] http://www.sott.net/articles/show/236402-US-New-York-Zuccotti-Park-A-Photo-Essay-on-A-Political-Movement-and-the-Kindness-of-Strangers [09:47:32] Evil's URL: http://tinyurl.com/3p5rjjd [09:47:34] URL Title: US: New York - Zuccotti Park, A Photo Essay on A Political Movement and the Kindness of Strangers -- Society's Child -- Sott.net [09:52:25] ,quote add A new consciousness is developing which sees the Earth as a single organism and recognizes that an organism at war with itself is doomed. ~ Carl Sagan [09:52:25] Kebap: The operation succeeded. Quote #209 added. [10:26:54] *** Quits: iderik (idk@RBOSE-dv9gss.tbcn.telia.com) (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) [10:33:21] -nobody- Kebap23 has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [10:36:43] *** Quits: Kebap (Max@RBOSE-g1bi3g.adsl.alicedsl.de) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [10:36:44] *** Joins: Kebap23 (Max@RBOSE-7d2tea.adsl.hansenet.de) [10:36:44] *** Kebap23 is now known as Kebap [10:38:25] -nobody- Kebap23 has joined on FREENODE [10:43:38] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExdcxnwZuNY [10:43:39] You4Tube 2[Title] Hydrogen Fuel Cell 2[Category] Tech 2[Duration] 0:15:00 2[Views] 1615 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2011-08-24 2[Description] A demonstration of an electrolyzer and fuel cell powering an electric fan. The electrolyzer creates raw oxygen and hydrogen from distilled water and electricity. The fuel cell converts raw diatomic hydrogen gas back into electricity. The power source is 3v dc. [10:50:17] *** Joins: iamme17 (iamme@RBOSE-r1i.9fp.26.41.IP) [11:17:00] *** Quits: iamme17 (iamme@RBOSE-r1i.9fp.26.41.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [11:19:12] http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/10/libreoffice-gaining-momentum-heading-to-android-ios-and-the-web.ars [11:19:13] URL Title: LibreOffice gaining momentum, heading to Android, iOS, and the Web [11:29:21] *** Joins: iderik (idk@RBOSE-dv9gss.tbcn.telia.com) [11:29:47] is there, say, a web-based libreoffice? [11:29:59] google docs, but open-source, and modeled after libreoffice [11:35:08] there is poratble one. I don't know about web based. Maybe ask in freenode #libreoffice [11:36:08] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d_4zij8 [11:36:09] You4Tube 2[Title] Rep. Brad Sherman Martial Law 2[Category] Education 2[Duration] 0:00:49 2[Views] 493372 2[Rating] 4.96 2[Uploaded] 2008-10-03 2[Description] Rep. Brad Sherman says Congress threatened with Martial Law if bill is not passed [11:38:37] *** Joins: fat92 (qwebirc@RBOSE-48t8r7.srv.volvo.com) [11:43:09] mip [11:44:05] hi [12:13:16] hi evil :> [12:13:19] where yoo at [12:27:27] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-1vjua3.student.uu.se) [13:22:45] Good afternoon [14:27:20] hi kman :) [14:45:49] http://www.fecesbook.com.nu/ [14:45:50] URL Title: Welcome to Facebook - Log In, Sign Away Your Life or Think Less [14:52:13] hello folks :D [14:52:49] o/ [16:11:31] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-1vjua3.student.uu.se) (Connection closed) [16:14:50] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-1vjua3.student.uu.se) [17:06:27] *** Joins: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) [17:07:56] what teh fat [17:08:06] :D [17:08:12] hola @ all [17:12:33] y0 any1 runnin gnome-shell 3? [17:12:47] (not unity shell) [17:14:30] `nicks [17:14:31] DNS: [777], Ades-, antilect, Buglouse, comotion, Cyclo, DeLrge, DNS, DustWolf, duxck, elf-pavlik, Evil, Fat64, fat92, Hakufu_, iderik, joepie91, kalken, Kebap, kman, lukas, missboty, nairboon, nobody, RBOSE, rBOTse, rwx, scrdcow, and Slush- [17:14:34] :D [17:14:44] wat wat [17:15:09] i just wonder if someone is runnin gnome-shell [17:16:36] nope :> [17:17:07] hm [17:17:46] sudo su RBOSE; sudo force-install gnome-shell [17:17:50] lol [17:21:07] DNS i try it once. I wont do that again lol [17:21:20] I tried gnome-shell once [17:21:21] but u tried it from a ppa i guess [17:21:28] it lasted about 5 minutes before I switched back to GNOME2 [17:21:31] and later, XFCE [17:21:36] never again. :P [17:21:37] but u tried it from a ppa i guess << ?! [17:21:42] * joepie91 uses opensuse [17:21:51] ppa is something ubuntu-related no? [17:21:57] yes joepie91 [17:22:14] gnome3 hsell isnt workin well on opensuse? [17:22:18] *shell [17:23:05] i wonder, becuz opensuse was one of the first distros shippin gnome-shell [17:23:26] joepie91: when did u try that? [17:25:48] i wonder if this was at teh final stage or beta [17:36:14] it's quite a while ago [17:36:27] I think it was beta when I actively tried it [17:36:37] and in final stage it didn't seem different enough for me to reconsider [17:36:48] there were no technical issues with it [17:36:56] it was fully functional, and worked as expected [17:37:05] the problem was more that it's an incredibly inefficient environment to work in :P [17:37:13] @ DNS [17:37:33] ok:9 [17:37:35] :) [17:59:25] is gnome-shell cool? [18:15:06] *** Quits: fat92 (qwebirc@RBOSE-48t8r7.srv.volvo.com) (Quit: Page closed) [18:30:34] http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/10/the-iconstitution-how-to-protect-user-freedom-in-an-app-store-world.ars [18:30:35] URL Title: The iConstitution: how to protect user freedom in an app store world [18:39:23] i really dont understand why people mess around with gnome-shell and unity and all that shit :D [18:39:51] is it not better just to run docky as panel, synapse as launcher and compiz as windowmanager? [18:40:58] if someone would be smart enough to pre-configure a package with that installed it would be nice, instead of trying to reinvent the wheel again and again and again [18:41:51] wtf? [18:42:10] aterm/urxvt fluxbox/flwm [18:42:23] hehe [18:42:41] awesome is good to :D [18:42:59] 'desktop' icons that remove the memorization of commands only inside ignorance .. [18:43:52] kalken: That is why I know Ubuntu/GNOME/KDE do not contribute anything measurable to the intelligence community. [18:44:44] lol [18:44:51] Hardly anything I see being developed progresses society or facilitates 'economic' equality. [18:45:36] i think the web will be fighting that "war" [18:46:16] hopefully the web can be browsed with free software also :D [18:46:36] seems like the web browsers are becoming almost like os:es [18:46:42] everything runs in that [18:47:07] war has nothing to do with it. The incentive for producing technologies that facilitate the peoples needs, must be identified and produced. [18:47:08] personally, i hate not having control of my data and apps [18:48:27] Buglouse: maybe that just depends on how one defines "war". For me free (libre) software vs prop-stuff is a war. [18:48:53] war of the user freedom [18:49:51] I have yet to understand the realistic value for javascript/css/dom ... I want to remove all the images and only receive the textual or audio (maybe video if necessary) information. I guess I only see menus as a functional development provided from these technologies, but then they are just hyperlinks ... [18:51:05] then we have those people who love "pink fluffy stuff" :D [18:51:10] kalken: It is not a war because both sides can merge together, drop the patents and technology becomes Free. It is only a war to those who do not see an alternative, ok... [18:51:25] kalken: Yeah, never understood that. [18:52:40] Idk, i just think defining things a 'war' like is not an intelligible definition [18:53:00] It defines sides and enemies. [18:53:56] (kalken: ELinks is the way) [18:55:11] So astonishing the stagnation in development elinks and textual browsers has endured, although I can see how the Market has contributed to the 'obsoletion' of textual browsers :/ [18:56:30] kalken: Understand that the only difference is in Licensing (with your software argument). [19:06:11] one of the purposes of gnome3 is to be compatible to touchscreen and similar devices [19:06:21] thats why the desktop look changed a lot [19:07:21] kalken ^^ [19:07:41] i think gnome 2.3 is not really workin with touchscreen or? [19:13:34] Doesn't the kernel solve that problem? [19:14:16] that is, anything is can support touchscreen capabilities, as long as there is a hardware communication level. [19:14:33] just look at gnome 2.3 [19:14:39] and look at gnome 3 [19:15:23] sure anythin can support touchscreen but still gnome 2.3 never was a concept for touchscreen [19:44:58] If the goal is to have everybodys computer to work like a phone, i'm not amused xD [19:45:50] quicklauncher is (imo) 100% better than 200 icons side by side listing everything on the computer as an icon. [19:46:17] luckily if i run linux desktop i can choose something else :D [19:53:23] Buglouse, I think that what he meant was that it would be more convenient for touchscreen use [19:53:27] :P [20:03:59] yes [20:04:19] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp883BYTqlU [20:04:20] You4Tube 2[Title] Cannabis Oil For Child With With Brain Cancer - Medical Marijuana 2[Category] Education 2[Duration] 0:08:34 2[Views] 1287 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2011-06-28 2[Description] Two-year old son Cash was diagnosed last year with a stage 4 brain tumor; he nearly died more times than they can count. He was miserable from the chemotherapy coursing through his body. Until his dad made a decision to give cannabis to his yo [20:05:39] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-1vjua3.student.uu.se) (Connection closed) [20:07:47] anyhow [20:07:54] gnome-shell and unity are completely useless for non-touchscreen use imo [20:08:01] they're just not practical [20:08:10] maybe for the casual internet browser that plays facebook games... but that's about i [20:08:11] it* [20:24:29] *** Quits: Ades- (sdfsdfsf@RBOSE-5hj.9kd.99.82.IP) (Quit: ) [20:32:15] joepie91: Isn't that mostly java? [20:32:50] joepie91: Java is interpreted through a Java Interpreter, not a 'http browser' .. [20:34:48] Flash is what needs to be altered [20:37:02] *** Joins: Cyclo_ (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) [20:44:00] *** Quits: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [21:07:28] Buglouse, huh? [21:07:36] what was that refering to? [21:27:56] i wonder too, but i think flash needs to be replaced not altered heh [21:28:27] adobe will probably never release on a free license, like they never did with any of their software [21:40:27] alter is to attempt change, if change is not permitted then it will become obsolete. [21:40:27] http://i.imgur.com/9uN5s.jpg [21:40:40] So it will destroy its self. [21:40:52] hopefully [21:41:22] joepie91: Flash games. Games are written in Flash. Note * Technology that is annoying, produces annoying content. [21:41:42] yes [21:41:52] awith this supercookie and shit [21:42:01] ^_^ [21:42:17] Buglouse, what are you refering to? [21:42:20] I never said anything about flash [21:42:21] nor java [21:42:24] to the faceb00k games [21:42:44] even then the response still doesn't make sense [21:42:51] I never claimed anything was interpreted by a browser [21:43:32] 13:10 ? Am I the only one that read that post? [21:43:56] 13:10 with which utc difference? [21:43:58] :D [21:44:15] joepie91: You did not have to, it is implied; that is the technology used to publish the content you referred to. [21:44:20] !time [21:44:20] DNS, on pms.rbose.org it is now 07:44:20 PM +0000 on Monday, 17. October, in the 42. week of 2011. [21:44:37] DNS: Yeah, i keep forgetting to set UTC to GMT (0). [21:44:40] thats utc time [21:45:11] offset of zero* [21:48:58] !time [21:48:58] Buglouse, on pms.rbose.org it is now 07:48:58 PM +0000 on Monday, 17. October, in the 42. week of 2011. [21:49:22] /time fat64.rbose.org :Mon Oct 17 21:48:52 2011 [21:49:49] guess client is adjusting server response? [21:50:09] yes [21:50:19] /time is a irc command [21:50:37] you can also try /time pms.rbose.org [21:50:41] thought it would poll irc server and client would not manipulate [21:50:55] thats no client manipulation [21:50:57] lol [21:51:04] its an irc server command [21:51:43] why does !time differ from /time? Is /time different per locale GMT? [21:52:07] its the server time [21:52:20] but thats connected with a ntp server [21:52:30] so should be alawys correctly [21:53:32] but wo0t [21:53:41] !time [21:53:41] DNS, on pms.rbose.org it is now 07:53:41 PM +0000 on Monday, 17. October, in the 42. week of 2011. [21:54:07] idk what you mean where it does differ [21:54:14] can u please paste me in query [21:54:14] I am not questioning its accuracy, only its offset. [21:54:42] DNS: The server's UTC locale is not set to the same as what the bot outputs. [21:55:34] thats just Fat64 server [21:55:38] idk what he has changed [21:55:45] should be utc server time [21:56:07] Fat64: you can run server on utc and locally still have local time [21:56:36] thats how it was :D [21:56:49] viper.robse.org|fat64.rbose.org differ by 18 minutes [21:56:55] haha [21:57:14] well i setted up ntp server on pms and fat64 [21:57:28] it was not me changing anything like that [21:57:56] its not good becuz it can make server logs look weird [22:00:57] i msged fat and viper :> [22:02:29] http://blip.tv/web2expo/web2exposf-09-douglas-rushkoff-how-the-web-ate-the-economy-and-why-this-is-good-for-everyone-1961065 [22:02:29] Kebap's URL: http://x0.no/2etk [22:02:30] URL Title: Web2ExpoSF 09: Douglas Rushkoff, "How the Web Ate the Economy, and Why This Is Good for Everyone" | Web2Expo on blip.tv [22:02:38] take a look ^^ [22:05:02] Kebap: Could you post a direct link to the content? [22:07:49] Buglouse: see the link of missboty its a short url [22:08:34] or what you mean :D [22:08:49] direct link to content? it is a flash video, on the page i linked [22:11:47] hey wasnt that the same guy talkin shit about free software [22:11:50] i think so [22:11:59] * DNS researches [22:12:05] no way [22:12:11] he is cool [22:12:27] Buglouse, you were arguing against something I never said >.> [22:12:52] I just said that gnome-shell and unity are not useful for people that do more than (metaphorically) playing facebook games and casually browsing the internet.... [22:13:28] found it hosted on youtube, where I can obtain the content directly [22:14:22] Kebap: ok sorry [22:14:32] 'casual internet borwser that plays facebook games...' [22:15:12] browsers do not run java, they are not java interpreters [22:15:19] Buglouse: Do you want a transcript of his speech? I am sorry, I don't understand what you mean [22:15:27] 'internet browser' refers to a user... [22:15:34] not to a piece of software [22:15:48] 'a casual internet browser' => someone that casually browses the internet [22:16:01] :D [22:16:11] its funny today [22:16:14] !hug all [22:16:15] ACTION expands her arms and hugs the whole #RBOSE :D [22:16:25] also, screw php and timezones >.> [22:16:26] ... I wanted the direct content how is that not specific enough? ... um, i want to download the video and decode it with the software i use ..? [22:17:21] joepie91: How has PHP or Timezones degraded your quality of life [22:17:24] And you cant find that with your browser and the url I gave, because ..? [22:18:06] Kebap: I had after the request was issued. [22:18:20] ok [22:18:29] Kebap: I originally inquired you because YOU posted. [22:19:15] I just found it there, in the web. [22:19:24] Buglouse, well, I sort of have an issue with them considering apparently both strftime and strtotime are timezone-aware meaning that all timezone differences would be applied twice to a timestamp from my database. [22:20:04] Kebap: May I suggest, just recommending the name and posting a reference to the names bio is sufficient for dissemination. [22:22:14] Buglouse: You suggest I rather not post a speech, but write something like: "Hey everyone, check out Douglas Rushkoff! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Rushkoff#Biography " ? [22:22:15] URL Title: Douglas Rushkoff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [22:23:45] Exact ! [22:23:48] Thank you Kebap [22:24:03] my pleasure [22:34:29] KenjiE20: Awesome thoughts Rushkoff supports and investigates. [22:35:56] Kebap: ^ [22:42:15] *** Quits: Cyclo_ (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) (Connection closed) [22:43:10] *** Joins: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) [23:00:39] *** Quits: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) (Quit: Lämnar) [23:26:00] *** Quits: Hakufu_ (jsajfsagj@RBOSE-jj9b7b.bredband.comhem.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [23:34:10] *** Joins: Hakufu (jsajfsagj@RBOSE-jj9b7b.bredband.comhem.se) [23:38:21] https://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/ [23:38:23] URL Title: Will your computer's "Secure Boot" turn out to be "Restricted Boot"? Free Software Foundation working together for free software [23:47:59] DNS: What does that discuss? [23:49:01] it discusses how far we can shoot a windows dvd in space [23:49:22] so propulsion technologies? [23:49:29] jk well the title says a lot its about m$ new "secureboot" [23:49:39] and atmospheric/cosmic radiations? [23:50:28] oh, was unaware that 'secure boot' was a product of M$. Thought maybe it was MBR or ... idk, like MBR vs GPT. [23:52:27] well m$ didnt create anythin, they stole the most [23:53:01] but if m$ uses this technology then it can be a potential danger for computer freedom [23:53:15] because they are quite well connectected to manufactors [23:53:24] ^_^