[00:02:45] *** Quits: Hakufu (jonte@RBOSE-aa2ikg.bredband.comhem.se) (Connection closed) [00:02:54] *** Joins: Hakufu (jonte@RBOSE-aa2ikg.bredband.comhem.se) [00:03:50] *** Quits: Kebap (Max@RBOSE-ktp3vd.adsl.alicedsl.de) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [00:03:52] *** Joins: Kebap (Max@RBOSE-p85oia.adsl.hansenet.de) [00:04:51] -nobody- Kebap23 has joined on FREENODE [00:04:52] -nobody- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Kebap23 [00:10:10] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-1vjua3.student.uu.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [00:49:15] *** Joins: DustWulf (DustWolf@RBOSE-20iolm.ctrl-alt-del.si) [00:51:59] *** Quits: DustWolf (DustWolf@RBOSE-20iolm.ctrl-alt-del.si) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [00:58:37] http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203413304577088604063391944.html [00:58:43] Title:  New Legal Structures for 'Social Entrepreneurs' - WSJ.com (at online.wsj.com) [01:04:10] Kebap: no thanks, damn business ethics - non for profit corporations were too "bad" for them [01:09:20] i like the idea, it is a nice hack [01:09:53] and now to something completely different [01:10:01] http://places.designobserver.com/feature/occupy-the-day-after/31698/ [01:10:04] Title:  Occupy Wall Street: What Happens Next?: Places: Design Observer (at places.designobserver.com) [01:16:28] Kebap: it's not a hack, in last years even non-for-profit corporations grow like mushrooms, they just wash a lot of money with it, redirect profits, build places which are later sold out, and buy other movable assets which end up same way - if somebody hacked anything then these are the psychopathic corporations hacking people's perspective - ofc not all are so bad, but they all ask for donations and optimize [01:16:30] the way they can get more points ($) so they never solve the problem of "you" being trapped in the game [01:19:42] they all optimize the way they can get more points ($) so they never solve the problem of "you" being trapped in the game <-- did you even click the link? :D [01:20:05] yeah, sure i read that [01:20:52] The second distinguishing feature of a benefit corporation is that it allows shareholders and entrepreneurs to hold a CEO accountable for favoring maximum profits over socially beneficial choices. In other words, if a benefit corporation promises in its mission statement to always pursue the most environmentally sustainable production techniques, but then goes back on that promise, shareholders can sue and the company’s certification can be taken aw [01:21:56] lol [01:22:36] they sue Enron 10 years already, and probably millions of other artificial non existing persons aka corporations [01:25:44] Kebap: these corporations which they create as non-for-profit or now Low Profit Limited Liability Company are supported with BIG SPONSORS like the European Union for example, through deals between companies and gov (fascism alike strategy) - sponsors who are rich because can steal from every tax payer through multiple forms of taxes in white day - this sick business mentality always find excuses for cheating [01:25:46] and stealing, why is that? [01:27:07] and ofc all that is causing even more taxation of the public [01:27:48] so what you're saying really, it didn't even matter whatever i posted, because fascism is ruling strong [01:28:42] it is, it's the most accepted and widely spread system in western world during late 20 and early 21 century [01:30:09] ok [01:30:57] these New Legal Structures for 'Social Entrepreneurs' are only creating more options for private profit through practices of behavioural economy, just newer version of the game, but only for some [01:32:15] it matters for me a lot what you post, but the question is: how does this new corporate structure solves anything by creating more space for profit driven motivation? 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[14:01:48] *** Joins: Hakufu (jonte@RBOSE-aa2ikg.bredband.comhem.se) [14:30:10] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-1vjua3.student.uu.se) [15:54:23] *** Quits: Hakufu (jonte@RBOSE-aa2ikg.bredband.comhem.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [16:08:08] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-1vjua3.student.uu.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [17:53:48] Hi folks [17:55:46] *** Quits: elf-pavlik (elf-pavlik@RBOSE-13qpka.org) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [17:59:41] this link don't work here [00:58] http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203413304577088604063391944.html [17:59:46] Title:  New Legal Structures for 'Social Entrepreneurs' - WSJ.com (at online.wsj.com) [18:14:18] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-gechrk.student.uu.se) [18:15:29] *** Joins: elf-pavlik (elf-pavlik@RBOSE-13qpka.org) [18:24:20] Good evening everyone [18:24:39] Hi kman :) [18:24:59] Hey Viper! [18:25:28] A question, is Eclipse or Eric better as a python IDE? Different capabilities ? [18:26:51] umm [18:27:17] what is that? [18:27:49] ^^ [18:28:04] Havent you written som python before? [18:28:30] yeah but i am a noob in python [18:31:16] kman you can ask in #python on freenode [18:31:39] ^^ i'll just try both and see what i think, but thanks anyway [18:48:41] http://wakeup-world.com/2011/11/16/what-we-learned-from-a-year-without-food-from-a-grocery-store/ [18:48:44] Title:  What We Learned From A Year Without Food From A Grocery Store | Wake Up World (at wakeup-world.com) [18:53:57] *** Quits: lukas (lukas@RBOSE-gkfu2h) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [19:01:02] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-gechrk.student.uu.se) (Connection closed) [19:03:11] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-gechrk.student.uu.se) [19:09:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj2D7s2WIOE [19:09:17] Title:  CrossTalk: Mannings Trials - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) [19:21:50] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1TBR08iNG8 [19:21:53] Title:  Rev Billy -- Shopocalypse is upon us - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) [19:30:16] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE.org) (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 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[20:29:43] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tef0mSGE464 [20:29:44] Caly: good, but winter slows down stuff, we cannot dig in the ground effectively to put all the pipelines etc. [20:29:45] Title:  Solarflower.interview - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) [20:29:56] i met that guy in Spain =) [20:30:46] so we wait until spring, but it's a good time for design and rethinking many things :) [20:31:14] sweet [20:31:27] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-1vjua3.student.uu.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [20:31:30] kman: i build my own env with gedit, better than what i could get with eclipse or eric, probably quite unique setup [20:34:54] yeah i use virtual env too [20:39:23] Viper: i don't mean virtual env, but IDE [20:41:35] Caly: you did not say much about land in Spain for a person who went to Spain look for a land, maybe a sentence or two, lol, but if you don't want to talk about it i can understand that, yet it would be cool to learn something about land options in Spain from first hand [20:44:56] oh [20:45:31] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqT7t_tMyYE [20:45:34] Title:  Millares - Spain Dec 2011 Visit - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) [20:45:42] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9lm7GEBLHc [20:45:56] Title:  Obama Signs NDAA Marial Law ∞ Legal Holocaust End of Human Rights Ron Paul Revolution - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) [21:02:54] Caly: thanks a lot for sharing that, looks really nice out there :) [21:11:17] yeah =) [21:11:54] lukas: http://www.oseeurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=7&p=481#p481 [21:11:58] Title:  OSE Europe Forum View topic - Visit to Millares (at www.oseeurope.org) [21:12:57] http://www.oseeurope.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=90 [21:13:00] Title:  OSE Europe Forum View topic - Results of Millares trip. (at www.oseeurope.org) [21:13:29] thanks! will read that now [21:13:34] =) [22:15:33] *** Joins: DNS (DNS777@RBOSE-ql2ap8.superkabel.de) [22:19:23] hey DNS :) [22:20:17] hi [22:20:28] i found a great pic opf the actions of german gov [22:20:31] you wanna see? [22:20:35] *of [22:20:50] https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/386697_10150468886527384_616992383_8536330_1590837112_n.jpg [22:33:42] DNS, here it looks same [22:34:03] what you can type with closed eyes? [22:34:08] amazing skill lukas [22:34:20] lol [22:34:22] jk [22:34:44] maybe they even make bets who can earn more from public taxes while sleeping [22:34:52] DNS so how much they are payed to sleep in that nice chair? [22:35:08] lol [22:35:47] Viper, common, that must be a hard job! almost like on factories they open in china [22:36:22] people sleep in factories too, so they don't need to go home, all the week live on the corporate land [22:36:49] @_@ [22:37:03] DNS, you haven't seen? [22:37:08] but as politician you get mroe money [22:37:27] there is a nice documentary about it made by one photographer [22:37:46] so i guess what we see in case of politicians is empathy, lol [22:38:15] its a deep meditation to keep teh holy spirits of our loved country [22:38:20] muhahhaah [22:38:29] yeah, lol [22:38:55] wait i know [22:39:22] they are psychopats working to fake emotions [22:39:44] DNS did you check "I am FisHead" ? [22:40:09] i think not [22:40:17] you should [23:10:30] DNS did you see on YT [23:10:41] all channel comments friendslist subsribers will be GONE [23:11:45] u mean the nu design? [23:14:52] censorship aka design [23:15:16] yeah [23:15:49] but you can change the design more than be4 afaik [23:17:33] but sure that g00gle do some bitch moves a.k.a "i kiss the gov ass if they sent me a billion dollars" like they do on their search engine [23:17:48] filtering and shit [23:17:57] DNS universal can delete any video at YT without asking/talking with google/yt [23:18:05] they have admin rights to delete anything at YT [23:18:14] no [23:18:18] i dont think so [23:18:18] yes [23:18:24] google said that [23:18:29] but they are able to block anything [23:18:34] because google/yt have contract with universal [23:18:40] hm k [23:19:07] i can't find source in english But yt said it after they remove megaupload video from yt [23:19:25] *** Quits: ZyaX (9jti8d8@RBOSE-5lntnm.bredband.comhem.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [23:19:25] YT said universal did it not YT lol [23:19:43] like with german GEMA [23:20:01] thousands of vids are blocked from GEMA [23:20:14] and most of them have no evidence [23:20:24] just assumptions [23:20:28] they pay google and google give them access [23:21:16] they pay them with "your" money [23:21:35] you mean with the slave money [23:21:38] lol [23:21:41] lukas printed by a printer :D [23:21:53] why google do not accept my $? [23:21:54] lol [23:22:12] i can print in color [23:22:14] i mean they take money of tax payers to censorship tax payers [23:22:25] me too yellow, a piece of paper that i piss on [23:22:29] lol [23:23:16] haha [23:23:37] in other words: they give slaves points (nothing), steal their lifetime, then take most of points away to censorship the slaves, lol [23:23:39] i keep telling people in nature my poo have more value then $ [23:23:41] LOL [23:23:53] and you are right Viper [23:23:58] actually this is true [23:24:00] yes [23:24:05] rofl [23:24:22] they do whatever they want to people and just make stupid games so it looks different, but they give you nothing in the end [23:25:35] and control you at same time as you would be a stepper motor [23:26:31] haha [23:26:32] nice one [23:34:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhuSn6sc7sc [23:34:13] Title:  Part 1 of 6: Eric Dollard Tesla Longitudinal wave Energy SBARC Ham Radio with Chris Carson - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) [23:36:29] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuJPz88jUbM [23:36:31] Title:  Meyl shows Tesla longitudinal waves for wireless energy transmission - YouTube (at www.youtube.com) [23:59:28] -nobody- Kebap23 has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)