[00:00:34] LOL Unless otherwise noted, all content at mil-oss.org is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 License. [00:01:01] Evil: ok? what does it has to do with what we talked about? I don't understand. [00:01:16] Evil: free software can be used in the exactly same way. [00:01:49] scrdcow ok maybe i see it other way [00:02:05] for me free in meaning of freedom not just free [00:02:14] Evil: ok, then your probably in minority. there is atleast one license thou trying to hinder military use. [00:02:44] Evil: ok, I stick to the generaly agreeable term that FSF uses. [00:02:57] scrdcow: it can be but i don't know any free software developer working directly on technologies which are meant to take away freedom [00:03:27] lukas: me neiher, not directly. but there is no hindrance if you go by the FSF definitions. [00:03:35] -s [00:04:59] definition is licenses is one thing, but the philosophy which doesn't find clear expression in texts is another one [00:05:11] true [00:05:51] you will only find esr program free code for weapons ;-) [00:07:44] Humanity has the option to become successful on our planet if we reorient world production away from weaponry - from killingry to livingry. Can we convince humanity in time? [00:08:52] huh Kebap21 killing other people is freedom LOL [00:10:48] i worked for a while with guys from BRL Cad in past, that was very weird experiences which i did not like, they basically "opened" their app to use coders to be able to design more tanks, missles and other stuff to hurt people, they for sure had no wide acceptance for people from different nations, and gov was/is tracking them on every corner, they were unable to even open pastebin links or other external [00:10:50] sites [00:16:57] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Brlcad [00:16:58] URL Title: BRL-CAD - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [00:17:17] Developer(s): Army Research Laboratory [00:18:19] in past it was Ballistic Research Laboratory... that's what the name of the cad stands for [00:22:22] :-/ [00:22:30] lukas: is it any good? [00:22:52] huh Kebap21 killing other people is freedom LOL <-- not sure if trolling [00:23:13] damn, this carrot was the best I've ever had. [00:23:22] http://gizmodo.com/5882717/anonymous-may-have-completely-destroyed-military-law-firm [00:24:11] Kebap21 ok i was a bit trolling [00:28:25] http://www.radio.cz/en/section/curraffrs/czech-signature-of-acta-agreement-sparks-controversy-and-demonstrations \o/ [00:28:26] URL Title: Czech signature of ACTA agreement sparks controversy and demonstrations - Radio Prague [00:29:19] http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120206/10005617669/czech-government-suspends-acta-ratification.shtml \o/ [00:29:20] URL Title: Czech Government Suspends ACTA Ratification | Techdirt [00:29:29] \0/ [00:31:25] *** Quits: Cyclo (cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) (Quit: Leaving) [00:32:49] http://www.thejournal.ie/in-pictures-anti-acta-protesters-march-in-dublin-346077-Feb2012/ [00:32:50] URL Title: In pictures: Anti-ACTA protesters march in Dublin · TheJournal.ie [00:33:27] *** Joins: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) [00:35:06] *** Quits: Cyclo (Cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) (Quit: Lämnar) [00:44:58] http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120205/14043517663/romanian-prime-minister-admits-he-has-no-idea-why-romania-signed-acta.shtml [00:44:58] Kebap21's URL: http://tinyurl.com/7ety8rm [00:44:59] URL Title: Romanian Prime Minister Admits He Has No Idea Why Romania Signed ACTA | Techdirt [00:45:16] seems we are winning with acta also :-) [00:45:20] atleast for now. [00:47:31] *** DNS is now known as ProfessorRhyme [00:49:13] haha [00:52:05] scrdcow: there is a lot BS going on, for example there is no legal term in poland for "suspend ratification" according to lawyers, yet you can read: http://bnn-news.com/poland-refuses-ratify-acta-48783 [00:52:06] URL Title: Poland refuses to ratify ACTA | BNN-NEWS.COM [00:53:03] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1F-5yioDoJ0/TSWZX5oQtFI/AAAAAAAAAe8/cFjfDdT-FaU/s1600/mecca+future.jpg [00:53:25] lukas: ah. but they feel the heat atleast.. starting to. [00:53:48] lukas: feels sort of like with software patents a few years back. but a bit bigger. [00:53:57] (since the movement has grown alot since then) [00:54:45] and it's not that poland or czech will ratifiy that or not because in fact the EU parliament will vote on that, they just launched miss information campaign so people will think "it's all over"... when we gather signatures they ask "why you need signatures? prime minister already said it has been stopped".... [00:55:44] yeah, maybe soo. [00:56:13] but I guess it was pretty common knoweldege that the parliament will vote on it in summer? [00:57:43] scrdcow: acta was hidden from public, it still is partially [00:58:03] lukas: yeah, but nowadays. [00:58:16] here you can read about it http://www.thenews.pl/1/12/Artykul/85488,NGOs-boycott-ACTA-debate-with-PM-Tusk [00:58:17] URL Title: NGOs boycott ACTA debate with PM Tusk - Thenews.pl :: News from Poland [00:59:40] yeah I know that. [01:00:46] young generations are and were creating the internet, while most of our parents still is wondering how to switch on a computer, politicians in power are among the second group, they don't understand the net at all but they want to control it [01:00:52] nice that they are using the term hacktivist. [01:02:42] STOP ACTA is a battle for future generations, it's about direct democracy, he fact is that politicians don't want people to be active, they don't want referendums, they don't want anybody beside the elite of the richest to be in politics or watching at their hands, they know that with internet they cannot anymore have excuses to exclude someone from room because of the volume of the space [01:02:54] the* fact [01:03:03] it's a bit bad but still good when the opposition party/parties take it as their thing to get rid of stuff like acta. it shows that the movement has power, but also that they just want to grab it to their own. [01:04:01] scrdcow: on streets people don't allow politicians to speak, and that is amazing [01:04:10] lukas: yeah [01:04:28] brb, check on cooking food [01:06:37] let me paste what a one guy behind La Quadrature Du Net said about all of that when i talked with him: [01:06:54] [19:08:08] with Internet, direct democraty is permitted, and so, it's no so needed anymore to have representatives [01:06:56] [19:08:17] this is frightening for politicians [01:09:51] this is what they want to switch OFF with all that BS going around, including sopa, pipa, acta, ndaa, etc........... [01:17:01] scrdcow: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100310/0425238499.shtml why time, energy, money, etc. are even wasted to go through this again? [01:17:02] URL Title: Overwhelming Majority Of EU Parliament Votes Against ACTA | Techdirt [01:30:22] mm, I agree to that. [01:34:47] ,whoami [01:34:47] Kebap21: I don't recognize you. [01:34:57] ,whoami [01:34:57] scrdcow: I don't recognize you. [01:35:00] ,whoareyou [01:35:01] scrdcow: Error: "whoareyou" is not a valid command. [01:35:48] ,echo `whoami [01:35:48] `whoami [01:35:48] rBOTse: I don't recognize you. [01:35:50] nobody: (web size ) -- Returns the Content-Length header of . Only HTTP urls are valid, of course. [01:35:53] rBOTse: Error: "(web" is not a valid command. [01:35:53] nobody: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command. [01:35:55] rBOTse: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command. [01:35:55] nobody: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command. [01:35:57] rBOTse: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command. [01:35:57] nobody: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command. [01:35:58] lol [01:35:59] rBOTse: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command. [01:35:59] nobody: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command. [01:36:01] rBOTse: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command. [01:36:01] nobody: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command. [01:36:05] rBOTse: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes. [01:36:06] nobody: You've given me 5 invalid commands within the last minute; I'm now ignoring you for 10 minutes. [01:36:14] * Kebap21 slaps Evil around a bit with a large trout [01:36:19] ,slap Evil [01:36:20] * rBOTse smacks Evil with a question [01:36:37] lukas: that was before they changed it iirc. [01:36:51] lukas: they voted against how it was back then. [01:37:53] scrdcow: they keep changing stuff since years and push for more control over and over, change order of paragraphs, etc. [01:38:03] * lukas wants to see a day when all politicians will be out off the job [01:38:07] Evil: haha [01:38:45] lukas: sure, what I meant thou was that it was much worse before. [01:39:23] lukas: so it's not obvious that politicians will vote against it this time [01:40:28] (atleast that's the view I have got) [01:41:23] -nobody- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [01:42:14] lol [01:43:26] Evil: was nobody on ignore of rBOTse before? [01:43:44] i don't know [01:43:48] yes [01:43:56] but the bot changed nick [01:44:07] yeah UFO was on ignore now its not ufo anymore [01:44:09] lol [01:44:15] ,slap Evil [01:44:16] * rBOTse smacks Evil with a monetary system crap [01:44:20] ,slap slap [01:44:20] * rBOTse smacks slap with a plastic keyboard [01:44:24] lukas no need ignore i can fix it without ignore [01:44:41] better is that the bots ignore each otehr [01:44:44] you sure? we can add it [01:44:48] other things can happen too [01:44:58] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE.org) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [01:44:58] * ProfessorRhyme had some experiences with that [01:45:03] no need ignore give me 1 min [01:45:05] *** ProfessorRhyme is now known as DNS [01:45:19] ignore would be safer [01:45:26] yep [01:45:33] unless they actually really need to talk to each other. but I don't see that. [01:45:36] ,echo `whoami [01:45:36] `whoami [01:45:59] ,echo error [01:45:59] error [01:46:10] ,echo `error [01:46:10] `error [01:46:12] rBOTse: Error: "error" is not a valid command. [01:46:12] nobody: Error: "Error:" is not a valid command. [01:46:21] i fix it already [01:46:52] anyways better is the bots ignore each other or why they need to see each otehrs msgs? [02:13:41] Evil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnTim74HyMs [02:13:42] You4Tube 2[Title] Julian Assange to launch show on RT this March 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:03:53 2[Views] 6960 2[Rating] 4.74 2[Uploaded] 2012-01-26 2[Description] Since 1980 ABC, CBS and NBC have lost over 20 million viewers. According to some critics, the big three networks have been slacking when it comes to news coverage. But where the big three fail the cable networks have picked up the slack. In reaction to the lack of re [02:13:55] DNS ^ [02:39:19] -nobody- fossrox has quit FREENODE () [07:54:34] -nobody- auue has joined on FREENODE [07:59:14] *** Joins: anne (anne@RBOSE-pk85m6.dynamic.chello.pl) [08:00:45] !morning all [08:00:47] ACTION wishes everybody in #RBOSE a wonderful morning and a great start in the day! [08:17:20] Guys, have you read article 41 ACTA? [08:17:33] i need to find it [08:52:53] *of ACTA [09:01:43] Article 41:Withdrawal "A Party may withdraw from this Agreement by means of written notification to the Depositary. The withdrawal shall effect 180 days after the Depositary receives the notification" [09:30:58] -nobody- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [09:30:59] -nobody- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Changing host) [09:31:00] -nobody- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [09:31:01] -nobody- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Calyp [09:32:47] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-s295g4.cust.telenor.se) [09:35:07] Hi Caly! [09:35:19] Good morning anne! [09:35:30] all swell in polskiland? [09:37:50] not sure [09:40:13] gov cheating people as usually [09:41:29] anne: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcNg2PAgK-g [09:41:30] You4Tube 2[Title] Jim Rohn - Walk away from the 90 percent 2[Category] People 2[Duration] 0:03:17 2[Views] 3339 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2011-06-23 2[Description] The Perfect Business - http://asolidfuture.OneGreatMovie.com [09:41:40] i start every day with that :D [09:47:40] thx:) [10:09:58] *** Quits: anne (anne@keep.it.simple) (Quit: ) [10:09:59] -nobody- auue has quit FREENODE () [10:28:10] BALLS! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki9GAE1ZKRI [10:28:11] You4Tube 2[Title] Ron Paul The Enemy of America. AIPAC PNAC Trilateral CFR NWO 2012 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:05:50 2[Views] 7741 2[Rating] 4.76 2[Uploaded] 2011-05-19 2[Description] Ron Paul speech naming the individuals involved in the conspiracy to dismantle the United States from within. Neo-Cons http://ronpaul2012.com/ Search on Scroogle: Trilateral Commission AIPAC CFR Bilderberg Group The Bohemian Club Rand Corporat [10:29:02] (should erad "Ron Paul is manin the enemy of America" [10:29:06] *read [10:29:12] *namig [10:29:22] *nameing [10:29:34] damn, I need to wake up.. [10:35:06] https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/301406_229909347069289_100001506763533_643918_1067074155_n.jpg [11:02:22] http://www.moneytrendsresearch.com/rupert-murdoch-lobbies-to-censor-the-internet/ [11:02:24] *** Joins: Cyclo (cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) [11:02:26] URL Title: Rupert Murdoch Lobbies To Censor The Internet | MTR [11:02:31] *** Joins: iderik (idk@RBOSE-dv9gss.tbcn.telia.com) [11:46:49] *** Joins: Ade5 (sdfsdfsf@RBOSE-5hj.9kd.99.82.IP) [11:52:21] *** Quits: Ades- (sdfsdfsf@RBOSE-5hj.9kd.99.82.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [12:16:43] *** Joins: antilect (antilect@RBOSE-1a724n.bredband.comhem.se) [12:34:01] http://freemusicarchive.org/ [12:34:02] URL Title: Free Music Archive [14:54:59] http://www.naturalnews.com/034887_Reversing_the_Irreversible_cancer_diabetes.html [14:55:00] URL Title: Reversing the Irreversible - discover how 37 people cured diabetes, cancer, eczema, IBS, high blood pressure and more [15:02:38] *** greav__ is now known as greavie [17:16:35] *** Joins: Hakufu_ (jonte@RBOSE-hmgf6g.bredband.comhem.se) [17:16:36] *** Quits: Hakufu (jonte@RBOSE-hmgf6g.bredband.comhem.se) (Connection closed) [17:25:52] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY [17:25:53] You4Tube 2[Title] A Time-Lapse Map of Every Nuclear Explosion Since 1945 - by Isao Hashimoto 2[Category] Nonprofit 2[Duration] 0:14:25 2[Views] 621842 2[Rating] 4.95 2[Uploaded] 2010-10-24 2[Description] Japanese artist Isao Hashimoto has created a beautiful, undeniably scary time-lapse map of the 2053 nuclear explosions which have taken place between 1945 and 1998, beginning with the Manhattan Project's "Trinity" test near Los Ala [17:43:38] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-9fg.jje.94.93.IP) [17:52:19] maat: you may want to check this http://rbose.org/beta/calendar -- added there some events in France :) [17:52:20] URL Title: Free Culture, Software, Hardware and Spectrum Events All Over The Planet [18:14:39] hi kman :) [18:15:39] o/ lukas [18:15:57] sorry for not getting in touch with you the last weekend. [18:16:13] A lot of things going on right now. [18:17:54] kman: not a problem at all, i always have a plenty of things to keep me busy [18:18:36] kman: i love the milk from quinoa you suggested, thanks! [18:20:43] You tried it? [18:22:33] yes, not sure how many times already :) [19:43:11] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-9fg.jje.94.93.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [19:45:50] -nobody- Kebap23 has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [19:46:46] *** Joins: Kebap (Max@RBOSE-09c2ku.adsl.alicedsl.de) [19:46:46] *** Quits: Kebap21 (Max@RBOSE-2pum51.adsl.alicedsl.de) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [19:50:25] -nobody- Kebap23 has joined on FREENODE [19:50:26] -nobody- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Kebap23 [19:51:36] *** Joins: kman (kman@RBOSE-hhm.9h0.94.93.IP) [20:01:08] Naunauhttp://www.piware.de/2012/02/fatrace-report-system-wide-file-access-events/ [20:01:09] URL Title: fatrace: report system wide file access events « Martin Pitt [20:01:27] lukas: selfmade or bought? [20:05:19] scrdcow: selfmade :) [20:08:02] lukas: recipe? [20:09:06] i will ask Anne later to forward it to you [20:09:22] http://www.laquadrature.net/node/5201 [20:09:23] URL Title: The EU Commissions Repressive Plans Beyond ACTA | La Quadrature du Net [20:09:24] lukas: sure thanks. [20:22:33] Throughout human history, as our species has faced the frightening, terrorizing fact that we do not know who we are, or where we are going in this ocean of chaos, it has been the authorities — the political, the religious, the educational authorities — who attempted to comfort us by giving us order, rules, regulations, informing — forming in our minds — their view of reality. To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yours [20:22:51] To think for yourself you must question authority and learn how to put yourself in a state of vulnerable open-mindedness, chaotic, confused vulnerability to inform yourself. [20:26:36] http://www.sharing-thebook.com/ this might be interesting [20:26:37] URL Title: About | www.sharing-thebook.com [20:53:40] omg its not 100% floss! [20:53:43] :D [20:53:49] thanks for sharing lukas [21:16:13] Kebap: yeah, this book has no free cultural license at all, but it's free enough so you can read it and share without being labeled a criminal [21:16:30] its cool [21:16:36] i was kidding [21:16:56] and i not [21:17:53] creative commons itself approves their own licenses for free culture or not [21:18:52] german tv said, polish protests could be biggest social upheaval since foundation of solidarnosc trade union [21:19:31] yeah, it's big, even our parents started to collect signatures [21:40:08] *** Joins: lundburgerr (lundburgerr@RBOSE-ac346l.priv.bahnhof.se) [21:57:07] www.allout.org/en/actions/russia_silenced/ [21:58:22] *** Quits: iderik (idk@RBOSE-dv9gss.tbcn.telia.com) (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) [22:16:05] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-hhm.9h0.94.93.IP) (Connection closed) [22:43:32] https://projets.lqdn.fr/projects/mempol/wiki/Political_Memory [22:43:33] URL Title: Mémoire Politique (Django) - Political Memory - Le Garage de La Quadrature du Net [22:51:28] *** Quits: lundburgerr (lundburgerr@RBOSE-ac346l.priv.bahnhof.se) (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) [22:57:23] *** Quits: antilect (antilect@RBOSE-1a724n.bredband.comhem.se) (Quit: Lämnar) [23:15:00] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLZmI5ePXiM [23:15:02] You4Tube 2[Title] Be a HERO and Help STOP SOPA Now!! I'll tell you How! This Video that Must Be SHARED! 2[Category] Nonprofit 2[Duration] 0:14:47 2[Views] 721 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2011-12-23 2[Description] Go to http://onecandleinthedark.blogspot.com and http://www.cbsyousuck.com for thousands of pages of evidence and links to the original source research on the Internet Wayback Machine. [23:32:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXV_mdwlh3o [23:32:19] You4Tube 2[Title] (Sopa) MegaUpload Dangerous Secrets affect YOU, Mike Mozart Jeepers 2[Category] Nonprofit 2[Duration] 0:04:35 2[Views] 41 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2012-01-26 2[Description] http://a99.site11.com/ https://www.facebook.com/AnonCommunity [23:40:52] *** Quits: Cyclo (cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [23:41:38] tnx Evil [23:41:45] posted it around =P [23:42:16] :) [23:43:23] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9gzxci4rn8 [23:43:24] You4Tube 2[Title] the 10 commandments of modern society. 2[Category] Nonprofit 2[Duration] 0:03:17 2[Views] 99 2[Rating] 5.00 2[Uploaded] 2012-01-18 2[Description] http://a99.site11.com/ https://www.facebook.com/AnonCommunity [23:46:02] lol [23:46:47] That's actually a really great set of rules! [23:49:59] *** Joins: Cyclo (cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP)