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[02:25:17] noticed any slowdown on youtube video downloading lately? maybe they are throtteling just to not waste as much bandwith? or maybe it's just my isp, or only me? [02:25:41] getting 150kb/s at first, but pretty quickly goes down to around 40-50kb/s. (in this specific example) [02:46:22] argh. why do people have to make it so fucking hard to find what license their program is released under or a link to the source. [02:46:44] it's like they are trying to hide that it's free software. [02:52:30] http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/394034_254897884584793_119299701477946_595340_2099543795_n.jpg [02:54:51] Kebap: + that guy is an undercover copper :-P [02:55:12] Kebap: great pic anyways. [02:55:30] got it from a comrad in greece :) [02:57:05] :-) [03:14:39] *** Quits: rwx (ludens@RBOSE-1a6.kh4.158.93.IP) (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 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[07:11:27] *** Joins: ZyaX (9jti8d8@RBOSE-5lntnm.bredband.comhem.se) [07:49:22] *** Joins: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-htffm3.cust.bluewin.ch) [07:56:54] *** Joins: kalken (default@RBOSE-41ee6l.bredband.comhem.se) [09:09:56] http://news.ycombinator.com/ [09:09:58] URL Title: Hacker News [09:20:15] *** Joins: Cyclo (cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) [09:29:13] kalken:hi, haven't tried iced coffe script yet but looks interesting... thanks for pointer! [09:32:52] :) [09:33:22] seems like a combo of iced coffee script, backbone and bootstrap could be a winner [09:45:38] kalken: i don't believe in 'the winner' but various solid and roubust choices ;) [10:02:10] *** Quits: Cyclo (cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [10:14:04] elf-pavlik: :) you might be on to something there [10:14:41] kalken: ;) [10:17:10] this day started in a so beautiful way: another server quit the house of proprietary! ;D [10:23:54] http://www.laquadrature.net/en/notice-action-eu-commission-must-put-freedom-of-expression-first [10:23:55] URL Title: Notice & Action: EU Commission Must Put Freedom of Expression First | La Quadrature du Net [10:29:47] http://rt.com/usa/news/anonymous-fff-consumer-acta-609/ [10:29:48] URL Title: Anonymous takes down government sites in massive anti-ACTA attack RT [10:34:14] -nobody- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [10:34:15] -nobody- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Calyp [10:34:26] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-0qeqqt.cust.telenor.se) [10:34:32] lukas: :))) [10:35:08] the house of proprietary is not a very nice place [10:37:07] kalken: check the nice list of websites in last article (near top and at the end) :D [10:39:46] o/ [10:46:09] hi Caly :) [10:57:39] hi lukas , I see the wiki is up again =) [10:58:10] yes, nairboon fixed that :D [10:58:15] kalken: Mark Boyle might have given you a great slogan for the Karma project =P [10:59:11] "Prostitution is to ses, what buying and selling is to giving and recieveing" [10:59:51] "Prostitution is to sex, what buying and selling is to giving and recieveing" [11:00:15] lol [11:02:32] Caly: where have you found this quote? [11:02:39] "When you give freely for no other reason than the fact that you can make someone's life more enjoyable, it builds bonds, friendships and, eventually, resilient communities. When something is done merely to get something in return, that bond isn't created" [11:03:01] lukas: Mark Boyle - "The moneyless man" [11:03:23] *** Joins: Cyclo (cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) [11:03:33] reading his book "The Moneyless Man - A Year Of Freeconomic Living" [11:04:02] Caly: that book just showed up last month or something, right? [11:04:34] 2010 actually [11:05:10] thx [11:05:34] might have been released later, but it's been getting alot of attention lately [11:05:35] probably i seen something similar then last days.. [11:05:56] ah, that might be the reason [11:07:37] ,quote add "Prostitution is to sex, what buying and selling is to giving and receiving." ~ Mark Boyle [11:07:37] lukas: The operation succeeded. Quote #220 added. [11:07:46] tnx [11:08:00] thx too :) [11:08:19] =) [11:09:21] Caly: i keep saying that sometimes to people around me about the jobs and selling lifetime but most don't like that observation :P [11:10:11] nah, the power of denial and delusion is strong within them [11:12:06] Caly: lol [11:12:08] great quote [11:13:38] the guy feels like my solemate after 15 pages xD [11:14:27] lukas: you know he founded the freeconomy community right? [11:14:50] http://www.justfortheloveofit.org/ [11:14:51] URL Title: justfortheloveofit.org | Promoting Skillsharing | Learn Skills, share tools, save money and make great new friends [11:14:52] no, i did not knew! but i know their website a bit [11:15:06] did't know* [11:15:18] http://www.justfortheloveofit.org/blog [11:15:19] URL Title: justfortheloveofit.org | Promoting Skillsharing | Learn Skills, share tools, save money and make great new friends [11:36:59] https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_22f56945fa707b4f5c13.jpg [11:38:21] spain is upset: https://diasp.org/uploads/images/scaled_full_e6ef3d90a28ec83d3bb4.jpg [11:38:49] apparently somebody took their money too. [11:46:02] kalken: is that last picture recent? [11:50:21] Folks, even thou I generally recent forums, I think you should register at http://forum.justfortheloveofit.org/ [11:50:22] URL Title: The Freeconomy Community @ www.justfortheloveofit.org Index page [11:50:43] good opportunity to find thinking people in your area! [11:51:08] same with registering in the community [12:09:43] *** Joins: antilect (antilect@RBOSE-ac4hfh.bredband.comhem.se) [12:16:47] *** Quits: Cyclo (cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) (Connection closed) [12:40:17] Caly: from sunday i think [12:43:24] so yesterday [12:46:24] *** Joins: Cyclo (cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) [12:47:31] http://www.pnas.org/content/99/14/9266/F1.medium.gif [12:48:08] whats wrong with that picture xD [12:53:41] http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/19/uk-government-to-demand-access-to-all-phone-and-internet-user-data/ [12:53:42] URL Title: UK government to demand access to all phone and internet user data | The Raw Story [13:08:56] kalken: i would be very careful with charts like that, these might be just wide spread ideology shit of some fans of eugenics and stuff like that - when Lenon was around there have been already claims that earth is overpopulated and there was 3 billions of people - i think i know what you liked to express with that chart, but i think it has that other propaganda side which i mentioned - [13:08:58] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yRh5NNiFG0 [13:08:59] You4Tube 2[Title] John Lennon's Opinion about Over Population 2[Category] News 2[Duration] 0:01:19 2[Views] 158294 2[Rating] 4.51 2[Uploaded] 2007-04-21 2[Description] 35 years ago, the big media scare was over population - we were all doomed. Then it was the coming ice age that was going to kill everyone. Now we're all going to die of global warming. Kind of typical that Lennon didn't follow the mainstream thought. [13:11:01] lukas: i did not want to express something with that. But maybe the one who created it wanted. I dont know :D [13:11:41] they need scarcity as you know [13:12:06] but dispite everything we are not living with our environment today, and any civilisation doing this will have problems somewhere down the line [13:13:34] sure, if we are going to continue with chemical pollution of land, food, air and shit into drinking water all the time, then future does only look shiny with mainstream adverts [13:14:14] yeah :) [13:15:21] we setup composting toilet about a month ago, wonder how it will work :) [13:15:34] :) [13:16:03] kalken: there is an ice technique you can use just at any climate indoor or outdoor :D [13:16:08] nice* [13:17:15] so nice that you can use it at a camp space, household, apartment, ship, etc. :) [13:21:42] we know we can share the same books with many bookshare system, cars, bicycles, we can keep content files in virtual space, upgrade our computers without buying boxes with some outdated data carriers, minimize use of materials, recycle waste and reduce consumerism, the list goes on an on - but the business and elites just don't like that [13:23:14] kalken: i'm very happy that many people who i met with our project do care :D [13:24:02] :)) [13:24:53] i was thinking about writing something about what i ultimately think comes down to social responsibility [13:25:06] and how people today pay off that responsibilitie with money [13:26:15] but if one understands that social responsibilities cant be payed off to disapear, things suddenly become different [13:26:40] if i dont take responsibility, somebody else will have to take my responsibility to... [13:26:47] etc. [13:30:34] i would like to read about that :) [13:55:23] http://rbose.org/wiki/A_Declaration_of_the_Independence_of_Cyberspace [13:55:24] URL Title: A Declaration of the Independence of Cyberspace - RBOSE [14:05:41] *** Quits: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-htffm3.cust.bluewin.ch) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [14:09:08] *** Joins: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-htffm3.cust.bluewin.ch) [14:21:30] https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@spyblog.org.uk/ssl/spyblog/2012/02/19/whitehall-risks-public-revolt-against-their-secretive-communications-capabilitie.html [14:21:31] URL Title: Whitehall risks public and internet industry revolt against their secretive Communications Capabilities Development Programme (CCDP) internet and phone snooping plans - Spy Blog - SpyBlog.org.uk [14:21:32] Caly's URL: http://xrl.us/bmstjg [14:47:24] *** Quits: Cyclo (cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) (Connection closed) [14:49:19] *** Joins: Cyclo (cyclo@RBOSE-pdk.uv3.156.78.IP) [14:54:08] Caly: "It's about sharing your tools so you can have access to all the tools under the sun without it costing the earth." <-- from the website you shared :) [14:54:37] "It's about using any free space you have to either benefit positive, ethical and local projects, or to enable volunteers to keep doing their amazing work for free." [14:58:25] =) HELL YEAH nice site huh? [15:04:07] still browsing :) [15:04:42] Caly: is there anything more available for logged in people? [15:07:39] dunno [15:07:48] *** Quits: antilect (antilect@RBOSE-ac4hfh.bredband.comhem.se) (Quit: Lämnar) [15:08:17] lukas: that community will be an awesome asset when we launch the technology tree and the karma site =) [15:14:10] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFGaW2FdKB4 [15:14:11] You4Tube 2[Title] Old Pallets 2[Category] Howto 2[Duration] 0:02:32 2[Views] 628719 2[Rating] 4.78 2[Uploaded] 2011-04-14 2[Description] If you think old wood pallets are garbage, think again. The Canadian Wood Pallet & Container Association has launched a campaign to encourage people to recycle and reuse wood packaging material. Our website: CanadianPallets.com [15:16:10] http://multi-facettedhomes.com/ [15:16:11] URL Title: Multi-Facetted Homes - Panelized Natural Redwood & Cedar Home Shells - Go up in One Day! [15:20:11] *** Joins: Kimsan (qwebirc@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [15:23:27] https://kevinsmicrohomestead.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/free-tiny-houses-for-everyone/ [15:23:29] URL Title: Free tiny houses for everyone ! | Kevinsmicrohomestead Blog [15:25:27] *** Joins: antilect (antilect@RBOSE-ac4hfh.bredband.comhem.se) [15:26:22] http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/feb/20/pirate-bay-blocked-uk-high-court [15:26:23] URL Title: The Pirate Bay could be blocked in UK | Technology | guardian.co.uk [15:48:39] wooden pallets ftw [15:50:16] =) [16:23:00] /2/2 [16:23:06] \o/ [16:23:47] nice wooden houses :) [16:25:33] =) [16:25:36] hiya maat [16:25:50] Yeah, I might build me one... [16:25:58] in spain? :) [16:26:06] If I could get hold of a good chassi [16:26:22] well, wherever I am when I start =P [16:26:51] prosponed the Spain thing, won't be on the openeland.org project anymore, they are such morons. [16:27:00] they refused to plan pretty much. [16:29:54] http://.youtube.com/watch?v=GjPNlMKN1zc [16:31:04] oh [16:31:06] ok [16:31:24] well it is indeed a bit dubious the way they handle things [16:31:25] but [16:31:33] they actually do something [16:31:36] which is not that bad [16:31:49] because nothing was moving on the mailing list pretty much [16:34:27] -nobody- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [16:36:04] -nobody- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [16:36:05] -nobody- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Calyp [17:53:58] *** Quits: anne (anne@keep.it.simple) (Quit: ) [18:00:52] *** Quits: Kimsan (qwebirc@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [18:10:50] Hi folks [18:11:39] Clay some internet providers in holland are blocking PirateBay plus other websites connected to piratebay [18:11:43] *caly [18:28:09] *** Joins: Kimsan (kim@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [18:30:11] That's just evil, Evil [18:36:56] *** Quits: Kimsan (kim@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [18:40:18] *** Joins: Kimsan (kim@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [18:58:14] http://tinyhouseblog.com/tiny-house-concept/gruene-homestead-silo/ [18:58:16] *** Quits: Ades- (sdfsdfsf@RBOSE-5hj.9kd.99.82.IP) (Quit: ) [18:58:17] URL Title: Gruene Homestead Silo [19:00:32] lukas: the forum there has a small members-only area [19:00:50] do burpees [19:21:55] *** Joins: Ades- (Ades-@RBOSE-5hj.9kd.99.82.IP) [19:22:08] *** Quits: Ades- (Ades-@RBOSE-5hj.9kd.99.82.IP) (Quit: ) [19:38:25] *** Joins: Kimsan_ (qwebirc@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [20:03:59] *** Quits: Kimsan (kim@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [20:05:16] *** Parts: Kimsan_ (qwebirc@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [20:05:22] *** Joins: Kimsan_ (qwebirc@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [20:05:26] *** Kimsan_ is now known as Kimsan [20:17:08] *** Joins: Kimsan_ (kim@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [20:18:33] Kimsan_: ! [20:21:42] :( [20:39:03] *** Quits: Hakufu (jonte@RBOSE-00iqke.bredband.comhem.se) (Connection closed) [20:41:56] *** Joins: Hakufu (jonte@RBOSE-00iqke.bredband.comhem.se) [20:44:50] http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/feb/19/science-scepticism-usdomesticpolicy [21:13:32] http://proxtube.com/?lang=en [21:13:33] URL Title: ProxTube - Unblock YouTube [21:33:32] *** Quits: Kimsan_ (kim@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [21:34:43] maat: have you been reading the openeland blog? [21:41:08] ,la http://tinyhouseblog.com/tiny-house-concept/gruene-homestead-silo/ Some interesting design concepts for building "tiny" houses (unfortunately not licensed properly) [21:41:15] lukas: The operation succeeded. [21:54:44] yes Caly [21:55:06] again, not as efficient as one would have hoped, but at least they did dsomething [21:58:52] http://www.google.com/url?q=http://academic.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/monografias_pessoais/cegsic_monografia/doc_tecnicos/046F1309d01.pdf&sa=U&ei=y7NCT4jVNsLNswakh83QBA&ved=0CBcQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNG6M-I4gohv251GKj9hpw72m2zLnw from 1962 heh [21:58:54] DNS777's URL: http://tinyurl.com/7ww92hp [22:00:13] *** Quits: Hakufu (jonte@RBOSE-00iqke.bredband.comhem.se) (Quit: Lämnar) [22:05:31] *** Quits: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-htffm3.cust.bluewin.ch) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [22:07:57] *** Quits: Kimsan (qwebirc@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Quit: Page closed) [22:09:53] *** Joins: Hakufu (jonte@RBOSE-00iqke.bredband.comhem.se) [22:11:48] *** Joins: Kimsan_ (kim@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [22:12:02] *** Quits: Kimsan_ (kim@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Connection closed) [22:12:28] *** Joins: Kimsan (kim@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [22:14:15] maat: thing is though, what those morons did in a few weeks, I do by raising my larger tent and lit my trangia stove. Done. Quarters, heat, food. [22:14:26] two hours tops. [22:16:40] kalken: orum.justfortheloveofit.org/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=14066&sid=4a90972044ffa30b01a7b5d8aaf4bf06 [22:19:33] -nobody- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v elven_lied [22:23:58] building something like that on top of facebook, is faceplant :D [22:25:00] Caly: lol. Yes. I also got a tent. I fix that up in about 10 minutes [22:25:58] kalken: tha RBOSE tent takes a little longer, but is sturdy and takes 4 people. [22:26:20] yeah, i know :S [22:26:27] i have seen it IRL :D [22:26:33] Domes are great, but as a tent it seems a little overly complex xD [22:26:43] I know you have =P [22:27:18] priority for self sustainability should probably be to have a flexible living first, and try to start growing etc [22:27:23] food is priority 1 [22:27:36] I would say so.. [22:27:38] steady shelter priority two [22:27:54] and comodities like bathrooms etc 3 or 4 [22:28:23] It's Spain, a solar shower and a bucket to shit in will suffice [22:28:36] but starting with building a dome tent in the middle of nowhere in wintertime, without food or a plan is just plain stupidity [22:28:50] 03<14magnetron@FREENODE03> water [22:28:56] *nods* [22:29:24] water is priority 0 xD [22:29:30] Oh, nut there is a natural clean water source on site. [22:29:34] *but [22:29:39] exactly [22:29:53] otherwise, ofc! [22:30:13] they apparently noticed that a feew weeks into the project xD [22:30:21] that they had clean water around the corner [22:30:28] Now I'm gonna watch "Age of stupid" seems interesting.. [22:30:37] (trailers avaliabel on the tube) [22:31:06] * THE age of stupid even. [22:31:59] seems like a good doc :D [22:32:27] I thought so [22:36:15] found it on google video. But it still amazes me that people actually think its a good idea to put the subtitles into the video, and not as a separate text [22:36:34] then people start to upload different versions of the video/subtitle... [22:36:38] -_- [22:37:12] Agreed, only found some wierd one on the tube. [22:37:29] and since there is multiple languages spoken in the film, It was useless. [22:37:42] good quality but subtitle track fucks up the karma [22:38:09] mmm [22:42:40] Caly: Yeah, Age of Stupid won't give you anything than you don't already know. But I like how they portray it [22:43:02] Pete Postleweith (got it right????) is awesome: P [22:44:58] thing is that people know exactly what future we are in for. They are just not used to solving problems that are not yet in their face [22:46:32] and most does not even know who to solve problems then either, so they ask the most common question as of yet: "o thats terrible. What are THEY going to do about it" xD [22:47:01] *how [22:51:31] Haha [22:51:35] Damn straight [22:51:40] THEY caused it [22:51:41] THEY fix it [22:52:09] everybody just keeps on puting responsibility in other peoples hands [22:52:29] btw that is exactly why we have all these pyramids today [22:52:50] people in the top has exactly as much power as the sum of power others give away [22:59:01] *** Joins: anne (anne@RBOSE-pk85m6.dynamic.chello.pl) [23:01:41] Hi guys:) [23:02:40] Hi anne! [23:03:19] kalken: Well, it's time to start sharing information rather than giving away the power of conquering ourselves :P [23:03:32] ammah break those pyramidz [23:03:39] hi anne :) [23:04:36] http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/assange-facebook-google-yahoo-spying-tools/ [23:04:38] URL Title: Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo are Spying Tools Watch Free Documentary Online [23:10:17] http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/internet-rising/ [23:10:18] URL Title: Internet Rising Watch Free Documentary Online [23:13:04] *** Quits: antilect (antilect@RBOSE-ac4hfh.bredband.comhem.se) (Connection closed) [23:38:43] hi anne [23:38:55] Hi Caly:) [23:39:06] how are you? [23:39:11] fine. [23:39:21] watching The Age Of Stupid [23:39:24] really good [23:44:34] I'm trying to figure out how Inkscape works. need to prepare some leaflets, because our prime minister really want to deceive ppl about ACTA [23:57:31] anne: good! get on it! [23:58:11] :D [23:59:56] lol. spain is upset :D