[00:00:21] no kolejny hejters [00:00:49] you would loos your arm [00:05:06] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE.org) (Quit: Leaving) [00:05:07] -nobody- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Quit: Leaving) [00:28:22] * lukas is back [00:28:39] wb [00:28:57] woyna: great it's not new, that means patents probably expired :D [00:29:13] ,t pl en coś [00:29:14] lukas: Error: We broke The Google! [00:29:24] hmmm [00:29:34] its google new policy [00:29:54] ?? google [00:29:55] google: sux [00:33:45] Evil: i don't see anything in console, would need to debug that [00:34:04] google change api? [00:34:55] ,qr [00:34:55] Evil: Quote #186: "Creators of knowledge, technology, and culture discover that they no longer require the structure of production based on ownership and the structure of distribution based on coercion of payment. Association, and its anarchist model of propertyless production, makes possible the creation of free software, through which creators gain control of the technology of further production. ~ Eben Moglen" (added by (1 more message) [00:35:01] ,more [00:35:01] Evil: lukas at 04:09 PM, July 08, 2011) [00:35:26] ,more [00:35:26] Evil: Error: That's all, there is no more. [00:35:29] ,qr [00:35:30] Evil: Quote #131: "Free software is not really about software in this fundamental sense; it's about bringing freedom to users through software. ~ Benjamin Mako Hill" (added by lukas at 05:53 PM, October 20, 2010) [00:35:49] ,qr [00:35:50] Evil: Quote #154: "As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields. ~ Leo Tolstoy" (added by lukas at 05:47 PM, November 27, 2010) [00:41:57] *** Joins: Kebap23 (Max@RBOSE-qa9ume.adsl.hansenet.de) [00:43:03] *** Joins: Kebap23_ (Max@RBOSE-qa9ume.adsl.hansenet.de) [00:44:16] -nobody- Kebap has joined on FREENODE [00:46:38] -nobody- Kebap23 has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [00:49:13] *** Joins: Kebap23__ (Max@RBOSE-qa9ume.adsl.hansenet.de) [00:49:18] *** Quits: Kebap (Max@RBOSE-qa9ume.adsl.hansenet.de) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [00:50:16] *** Quits: Kebap23 (Max@RBOSE-qa9ume.adsl.hansenet.de) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [00:50:25] OMG, if my last hope would be flash i would go for hammer as well ;) [00:50:52] -nobody- Kebap23 has joined on FREENODE [00:53:09] -nobody- Kebap has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [00:53:12] flash rom! 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[10:31:14] i don't want to cause an additional load for them, so i will wait a few days until it will become more calm maybe [10:31:33] that can take a while, thought.... [10:34:22] no i have not yet. I need to figure out something cool do to with it first :D [10:35:18] kalken: that is? the cluster on demand? :D [10:37:23] personally want to use it as my primary desktop, i don't care it it will be slower, i want to run on FREE machine :D most stuff which i do does not require huge computing :D [10:39:16] it would be cool to hang a raspberry pi in a tree, with batteriepack and solar and a preepaid 3g. True freebox :D [10:39:31] :D [10:40:32] kalken: i think we really need to figure out a cluster on demand through lan, wifi, usb, etc. and find a way of load balancing that even a weakest machine can stay effectively in cluster grid [10:41:05] setting up a cluster should be simple as opening a txt file, LOL [10:41:51] i guess one can build beowulf clusters with raspberries :D [10:42:28] that would actually be pretty awesome [10:46:07] <3 [10:50:26] forwarded to freedombox just in case but pretty sleepy there today [10:51:54] :) [10:53:45] http://chrisfenton.com/homebrew-cray-1a/ [10:53:46] URL Title: Homebrew Cray-1A | ChrisFenton.com [10:53:47] lol [10:58:16] http://www.dailycircuitry.com/2012/01/rasberry-pi.html [10:58:17] URL Title: The Daily Circuit: Raspberry Pi [11:00:53] nice! [11:00:56] its the coolest mediaplayer ever :D [11:01:12] only needs a chassi built in lego :D [11:01:17] then its good to go [11:02:16] yes, i LOVE that part! :D never throw away your casing, just rebuild it :] [11:02:30] exactly :) [11:02:46] or just add some pieces if a new harddrive is needed etc [11:03:05] :] [11:05:58] kalken: i think we may as well build later these devices on a bit bigger breadboards, as they initially did [11:06:42] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-rp427r.cust.telenor.se) [11:06:48] -nobody- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [11:06:49] -nobody- Calyp has quit FREENODE (Changing host) [11:06:51] -nobody- Calyp has joined on FREENODE [11:06:52] -nobody- mode change by ChanServ on FREENODE: +v Calyp [11:08:42] hi Caly :) the $25 GNU+Linux box is out there! [11:09:07] lukas: whut? [11:09:21] http://www.raspberrypi.org/ [11:09:22] URL Title: The Raspberry Pi Launch [11:09:33] \o/ [11:12:20] COOLNESS !!!! [11:12:27] Gotta get one =) [11:14:28] almost 400 people on #raspberrypi on freenode! [11:15:57] amazing lukas , we can't be very far from an actual freedombox [11:16:20] yes, i forwarded the msg to them as well :D [11:27:42] kalken: http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/ heard of that already? [11:27:43] URL Title: allwinner a10 [11:29:00] lukas: no. But it sounds fantastic! [11:29:23] i see though that more and more laptops and tablets are showing up with arm in them [11:29:41] this is very good because of the simpler structure of arm, and the low power consumtions [11:29:53] "The critical decisive factor however was the immediate support of Allwinner's Board of Directors for releasing full GPL Source Code, to help the RHT Initiative to foster better relations and closer ties with Free Software Developers." [11:30:20] need to confirm on hardware too still [11:31:48] RHT for me has to much connections with bad boys, like Wall Street and military, i don't trust them at all [11:32:22] very cool thing this allwinner! http://git.rhombus-tech.net/eoma [11:32:23] URL Title: git.hands.com Git - eoma.git/summary [11:32:35] they are releasing specs as GPL-compliant! [11:32:38] wow [11:33:16] http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/allwinner_a10_gplcompliant_computer_15 [11:33:17] URL Title: Allwinner A10: A GPL-compliant computer for $15 [11:33:58] * lukas is reading and trying to stay calm [11:34:05] ^^ [11:34:07] same here [11:34:18] i was sort of dancing around sitting [11:37:18] i shared this news with family, and my father said "order a one for me, i will bother people around by asking them why this is not in mainstream media at all" LOL [11:39:00] :DD [11:44:18] ,la http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/allwinner_a10_gplcompliant_computer_15 [11:44:21] lukas: The operation succeeded. [11:44:38] ,la http://git.rhombus-tech.net/eoma [11:44:40] lukas: The operation succeeded. [11:44:49] ,la http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/pcb/ [11:44:51] lukas: The operation succeeded. [11:45:06] ,la http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/ [11:45:09] lukas: The operation succeeded. [11:48:04] http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/editorial_20 [12:04:14] kalken: now i'm literally dancing my self, it hit the mainstream there is so big interest! [12:04:16] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17190918 [12:04:17] URL Title: BBC News - The Raspberry Pi computer goes on general sale [12:06:42] wow [12:06:49] lukas: kalken "As the developers say, they'll do the (GPL) software and China will do the hardware. Checking the developer's profile (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) it's a good bet the programming will be Python." [12:06:51] =))) [12:06:54] \o/ [12:07:03] :))) [12:07:12] :D:D:D:D [12:07:15] * kalken loves the python [12:07:20] =) [12:09:01] !dance [12:09:02] ACTION needs some room to dance the Cha Cha Cha with lukas in #RBOSE [12:09:50] lukas: this also ^^ http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17192823 [12:09:51] URL Title: BBC News - Raspberry Pi computer: Can it get kids into code? [12:09:54] where is Kebap? he is missing the party! :D [12:10:30] lol [12:11:08] "The Raspberry Pi is a bare-bones, low-cost computer created by volunteers mostly drawn from academia and the UK tech industry." - volunteers FTW! [12:13:00] He says: "This is about getting kids to engage creatively with computers: doing interesting things. And to be fair that doesn't even have to be programming: it can be art, it can be design, using computers in a creative way. [12:15:45] "What we saw at the school was that as soon as the children were given access to something they could play with, they started playing with it without direction, without someone trying to lead them by the hand. [12:15:47] "Often what they tried would go wrong, but they learnt something from whatever mistake they made." [12:15:49] <3 [12:19:18] yes, i see same with my son, i just let him sit in front of computer, kids does amazing things [12:20:33] yeah, i'm more and more sure that the parents are responsible for how dumb/smart their children becomes, and how creative they turn out to be :) [12:21:02] i don't know for sure, but i bet you guys too learned thousands of programs without anybody showing you how to use them :D [12:22:22] i think the only thing different between people who learn, and people who dont, is their way of handling mistakes (or failing) [12:22:56] personally i dont think failing or doing something wrong is something bad. [12:23:09] its just a pointer to try something else next time :D [12:24:00] and to learn to handle something is not just about learning what is possible, but also what is not possible (e.g where the boundaries are) [12:26:00] lukas: as you know, most of programming is learning to change solutions based on what works and what does not :) [12:27:05] and i dont think most people today even know how to do this. Because they are so used to being handled methods from somebody else, and never explore in a different direction, or question the current methods [12:27:53] kids sort of works the other way around. They question everything, tries everything, and see what happens :) [12:28:07] thats a recepie for success when it comes to computers [12:28:45] *Recipe [12:42:38] thank you for these words :) this will make me about one thing at least i want to solve [12:42:49] make me think* [14:10:32] ,nicks [14:10:32] lukas: Caly, comotion, comotion_, DeLrge, DNS, DNS777, DustWolf, Evil, Fat64, Guest81386, Hakufu_, kalken, lukas, maat, missboty, nobody, RBOSE, rBOTse, rwx, scrdcow, SoNeta, woyna, and ZyaX [14:10:54] i don't know if you are all aware but... [14:12:37] ...DNS made to to top contributors to Ubuntu! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+topcontributors -- don't be mislead, the approach is for all architectures based on Debian! :D [14:12:44] URL Title: Top Ubuntu Contributors : Ubuntu [14:14:19] not a single $ taken! 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[19:43:50] *** Joins: DZR_ (Darren@RBOSE-vvu.foo.143.190.IP) [19:45:32] `f [19:45:33] Evil: Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example. -- "Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar" [19:47:46] Evil - no - been about before - Darren [19:47:55] ah i see :) [19:48:06] welcome back [19:48:41] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf6PWc8WkHg - hehe he is funny [19:48:42] You4Tube 2[Title] Enough is enough, YouTube. Together we're strong. 2[Category] Entertainment 2[Duration] 0:16:14 2[Views] 4151284 2[Rating] 4.47 2[Uploaded] 2012-02-24 2[Description] https://www.change.org/petitions/google-youtube-give-youtube-users-tools-to-combat-video-spam http://www.twitch.tv/DireBoris - LIVESTREAM WILL BE ON 26TH FEBRUARY 4:00 PM EST / 9:00 PM GMT _______________________________________ I hope you guys can sm [19:49:04] "I I don't want that mother bitch order me around" :-D [19:51:13] *** Quits: DZR (Darren@RBOSE-7gc.02d.49.200.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [19:53:00] hello scrdcow :) [19:53:04] hi [19:53:06] DZR? [19:53:14] did you have another nick before? [19:53:19] I hepled you with installation right? [19:53:23] yeah [19:53:54] although not been using it much... stuck on windoze [19:54:54] been using a 3G dongle connection and I've tried to get it working with Mint but a bit of a steep learning curve... will only be using it for another week [19:55:37] .... 2 weeks.... actually also have a wired connection for the next week so might try some more was innteresting [19:55:39] the 3g dongel or mint? ;-) [19:56:16] ....trying to get it working... I was definately getting closer [19:57:41] the linux software that is on the dongle (supposed to get it working) was throwing back lots of errors - but then I may have been running it incorrectly??? [19:58:28] -nobody- Kebap has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [20:00:09] *** Quits: Kebap (Max@RBOSE-dt7ikl.adsl.alicedsl.de) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [20:01:56] anyone recommend a good place (IRC?) to get advice - for the very novice to linux (Mint)??? Was finding it hard to make progress via man commands and web searches [20:33:03] *** Joins: Kebap (Max@RBOSE-v5rds0.adsl.alicedsl.de) [20:33:47] -nobody- Kebap has joined on FREENODE [20:40:21] elf-pavlik I've been working on development at http://unitednotions.org.uk/ ther is a strong desire to implement an alternative currency / trading system any ideas?? [20:40:22] URL Title: United Notions | 01273 91 55 21 [20:40:58] Sorry wrong channel :O [20:42:47] *** Quits: DZR_ (Darren@RBOSE-vvu.foo.143.190.IP) (Connection closed) [20:42:59] *** Joins: DZR_ (Darren@RBOSE-f83.foo.143.190.IP) [20:54:34] *** Joins: Kimsan (kim@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [21:08:45] *** Joins: Kebap23 (Max@RBOSE-v5rds0.adsl.alicedsl.de) [21:08:58] -nobody- Kebap23 has joined on FREENODE [21:11:54] -nobody- Kebap has quit FREENODE (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [21:14:46] *** Quits: Kebap (Max@RBOSE-v5rds0.adsl.alicedsl.de) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [21:41:42] DZR_: you can ask here [21:42:04] DZR_: but my knowledge when it comes to 3g-dongles is limited. [21:42:25] DZR_: you can either search for the errors on teh google and se what you find, you can see the errors if you run dmesg. [21:42:54] DZR_: for ex right ater you have tried to use it. [21:43:35] DZR_: or you can search for your 3g-dongel manufacturer and type and see if it is supported and what driver. then you can see if the driver is loaded with lsmod. [21:44:09] DZR_: if you nkow that your dongel is supported and you have the driver loaded. then you know atleast that that parti is ok and you can continue. [21:44:11] scrdcow cheers ... I had to log on as root via the terminal - was getting error messages there which I could copy and search with... I gave up coz there was a load [21:44:23] ok [21:44:31] I searched for a driver from the manufacturer [21:44:46] but couldn't identify the product [21:44:50] I usually doesns't work liket hat when it comes tol inux [21:44:54] linux [21:45:02] moste drivers are already included in the kernel [21:45:14] so you don't usually go by manufacturer pages as you do with win [21:45:21] OK [21:45:22] sorry for the bad typing its lagging [21:45:44] but you can search for your device and linux [21:45:45] what ya fingers??? :) [21:45:48] hehe [21:46:04] couldnt ID the device... tried via web search [21:46:12] can I get linux to ID? [21:46:18] sort of my brain is lagging, my fingers are to fast.. and also the connection... i'm seeding tons :-) [21:46:22] to id? [21:46:34] have to make some dinne rsoon. [21:46:59] yeah not going to try now... Im on win [21:47:03] doze [21:47:04] dunno what you mean by "id the device" [21:47:37] I haven't heard much about problems with 3g-dongels from my friends, it has usually worked right out of the box [21:47:43] you siad "you can search for your 3g-dongel manufacturer and type and see if it is supported and what driver" [21:47:46] said [21:47:59] yes... there is info on the device? [21:48:08] is some dodgy Guatamalan device.... [21:48:10] like name of the thing, and some number maybe? [21:48:16] no [21:48:21] nothing at all? [21:48:23] just the phone company logo [21:48:42] what happens when you connect it and then run dmesg directly after to see what it outputs? [21:48:54] (but you better be in linux when I help, because otherwize it's harder...) [21:48:59] actually just been told there are numbers on it...... [21:49:11] there usually are some info on the back or such. [21:49:24] dmesg??? I got lots to learn...... [21:49:37] the thing is that it's usually the chips that matters, many manufacturers can use the same chips and then the same driver will apply. [21:49:40] hehe [21:49:46] dmesg outputs messages from the kernel [21:49:52] yeah I get you with chips etc. [21:50:12] for ex when you connect usb stuff, it outputs info about what is happening [21:50:12] was trying to follow their installation instructions but couldnt get it to work [21:50:36] its also got built in memory and a micro sd reader [21:50:38] dmesg is the most common way to se what is happening and find out if you have any error with hardware or stuff like that. [21:50:51] dont know if that will make things more confusing?? [21:50:58] their? who's? [21:51:26] software on the built in memory [21:51:36] windows stuff worked fine.... [21:51:41] should. if it only has a decent driver and you know it's loaded ok then it probably shouldn't be a prob. [21:51:48] ah.. hmm.. [21:52:16] but is it software that is needed or it to run, as firmware stuff or it's just some stuff so that you always can install shit on the host computer? [21:52:22] for ex drivers for win. [21:52:35] would not access memory in Linux only in windows [21:53:01] ok, well. anyways.. I need to get more info on what the device is for me to be able to help you search. [21:53:24] and also it helps if your in gnu/linux since I can get info back from commands you run. [21:53:29] it's not much I can help right now. [21:53:42] cheers scrd... I got too much to do today... maybe later in the week if you are about [21:53:50] but right now I need to cook some food. [21:53:55] sure :-) [21:54:03] i'm pretty much free all week [21:54:20] Cheers mate :) [21:54:32] but I really would like to get it going so that you can be online under linux. [21:54:34] :-) [21:58:24] many times the things that needs to be done is very simple, atleast not many steps. 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