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[06:03:17] *** Quits: Guest44430 (Darren@RBOSE-53n.6me.212.190.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [06:08:49] *** Quits: O_O (webchat@RBOSE-tu5m7k.superkabel.de) (Connection closed) [06:11:49] *** Joins: Guest44430 (Darren@RBOSE-53n.6me.212.190.IP) [06:12:13] *** Guest44430 is now known as DZR [06:12:20] http://www.shareable.net/blog/crowd-funding-open-source-permaculture [06:12:22] URL Title: Shareable: Crowdfunding Open Source Permaculture [06:20:20] http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/Open_Source_Permaculture [06:20:21] URL Title: Open Source Permaculture - Open Source Ecology [06:29:24] https://github.com/Permageeks [06:29:25] URL Title: Permageeks (PermaGeeks) · GitHub [06:34:02] http://www.goteo.org/project/rebelaos-publicacion-por-la-autogestion?lang=en [06:34:03] URL Title: Goteo.org Crowdfunding the commons [07:08:54] *** Quits: DZR (Darren@RBOSE-53n.6me.212.190.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [08:14:54] *** Joins: ZyaX (9jti8d8@RBOSE-5lntnm.bredband.comhem.se) [09:48:20] *** Quits: Hoogin (hoogin@RBOSE-ak2r0n.etanet.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [11:18:33] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-uuoek0.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) [11:37:21] *** Joins: Kebap (Max@RBOSE-2vlt3c.unitymediagroup.de) [11:54:27] infoserv sends me 3 messages each time i log in [12:00:22] infoserv is serving info! 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[12:33:06] *** Joins: Hoogin (hoogin@RBOSE-ak2r0n.etanet.se) [12:35:49] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE.org) (Connection closed) [12:39:02] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-uuoek0.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) [12:51:03] yeah maybe ^^ [12:51:27] maybe it makes sense to combine the 3 msgs into 1 [13:03:48] *** Joins: antilect (antil@RBOSE-248fom.bredband.comhem.se) [13:16:24] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE.org) (Connection closed) [13:20:32] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-uuoek0.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) [14:01:35] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE.org) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [14:06:48] *** Joins: DZR (Darren@RBOSE-tbt.6me.212.190.IP) [14:07:18] *** DZR is now known as Guest4092 [14:16:18] *** Guest4092 is now known as DZR [14:16:48] *** DZR is now known as Guest57477 [14:35:36] Guest57477: thx for links =) [14:37:58] *** Quits: Guest57477 (Darren@RBOSE-tbt.6me.212.190.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [14:53:13] *** Joins: DZR_ (Darren@RBOSE-tbt.6me.212.190.IP) [15:07:12] DZR_: thx for links! 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[17:22:41] yes i had such as [17:22:44] ntpq -p is saying all servers are ".INIT." [17:22:47] remove ntpd [17:22:51] what is that about [17:22:51] just install ntp [17:22:58] heh [17:23:13] so removing ntpd and installing ntp solves the problem? [17:23:47] not sure if that will fix your problem but we had problem on fats box with sync time and after isntalling only ntp it worx [17:24:56] not workning here :( [17:24:59] Was not getting response when I did /nick .... or response happened long time later (and 30 sec paswd timeout already passed) [17:26:03] Also noticed http://rbose.org/irc/logs/RBOSE/ is 404ing [17:28:27] DZR: the nickserv has a protection if nickserv pass was not identified = pms.rbose.org: *** XLINE: Removing expired SVSHOLD DZR (set by NickServ 1535 seconds ago) [17:29:07] DZR: and yes the website needs many fixes [17:29:29] we moved to another server with the pms, so new system also [17:33:55] Sorry DNS777 you lost me there pms = the project management system (currently very slow connection here web pages taking a long time to open) [17:34:12] whats is XLINE bit about?? [17:34:32] nickserv password protection [17:35:11] and Removing expired SVSHOLD DZR? [17:35:11] if you dont identify a registered nick the server/services set a xline on the nick, means the nick is blocked for that ip for some mins [17:35:38] ah I see [17:35:57] if you wish you can disable that, its a default setting for our irc [17:36:50] Not going to be here for long and not had problems elsewhere. [17:39:00] DZR: for me the site pages load quite fast, so i bet it might be a routing problem atm [17:39:53] does any1 else have that issue with slow site loading? [17:41:27] I'm on a mountain in Nicaragua and the 3G connection is not good... [17:41:37] ah lol:) [17:41:48] how it is in nicaragua? [17:41:59] Nice :) [17:42:39] At a reclaimed community centre in a small village. [17:42:56] sounds nice [17:43:39] Big house was owned by an Italian who ran a coffee plantation before the Sandinista revolution [17:44:21] Now belongs to the local coffee co-op. Who have let the community use it as a community centre [17:45:01] Actually the community can use it for what the like.... but it had been empty for 5 years [17:45:49] and got trashed. A few locals started clearing it up and are now running artisan workshops etc. here [17:46:36] The location avoids the crazy heat that is elsewhere in Nic [18:21:47] *** Quits: DZR (Darren@RBOSE-tbt.6me.212.190.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [19:41:19] *** Joins: antilect (antil@RBOSE-248fom.bredband.comhem.se) [21:22:53] *** Joins: DZR (Darren@RBOSE-53n.6me.212.190.IP) [21:23:24] *** DZR is now known as Guest35727 [21:25:16] *** Guest35727 is now known as DZR [21:31:10] DZR: are you there with your home? [21:32:13] :D Unfortunately not.... or should that be fortunately?? [21:32:28] How things at freelab? [21:34:08] right now we are focused on growing plants, learning a lot of stuff, building relations with locals, enjoying silence and heaving a lot of fun :) [21:36:43] Nice :) [21:37:07] You there full time? [21:37:34] yes, since a couple of weeks [21:38:04] Whats kinds of plants are you growing lukas ? [21:38:22] Id really love to hear your plans for plant cultivation! [21:38:41] Plans for Plants (tm) [21:40:00] we are focuses on plants atm because food is about 50% of all costs in life in poland for an average person - and additionally for us there is no better option to have high quality food than growing it [21:40:28] hi kman :D [21:40:35] I've got some experience at very low maintenance food growing (kind of permaculture / forest gardening stuff) stuff) [21:41:30] yeah, we would like to do a permaculture garden here [21:41:47] For salads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramsons [21:41:48] URL Title: Ramsons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [21:42:14] and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrel [21:42:15] URL Title: Sorrel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [21:42:51] are great keep coming back year after year - make salads interesting and get a good crop. Sorrel for most of the year [21:42:58] ...but started with a vegetable garden - with this we could get help from people with experience, as result we planted so far mostly annual plants [21:43:12] thank you :) [21:43:15] If they will grow in your climate [21:44:14] Also I really want to try eating more weeds and growing trees with edible leaves [21:44:35] Have potential to give good yields with low inputs [21:45:10] DZR, plenty of good online sources for edible weeds and flowers [21:45:11] yeah, that would be awesome, my biggest concern of all is the winter time with low temperatures -30°C or sometimes even lower [21:45:35] many plants simply do not survive that [21:45:55] Yeah that is cold !!! [21:46:05] I based 10% of last years summer food on wild plants. [21:46:38] lukas, Get rocket stove heated green houses ^^ [21:46:47] I want to experiment with that [21:52:11] This recently got posted to a mailgroup I'm on some good stuff UK plants guess some will be in Poland also [21:52:12] http://www.countryside-anarchist.co.uk/Writings/kentdalewildfood.pdf [21:54:01] kman where you PL too? [21:55:32] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lime_tree has good leaves. [21:55:33] URL Title: Tilia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [21:55:59] DZR, no i dont live in PL (currently) ^^ [21:56:26] I want to plant a few of them somewhere and keep them as coppice. Cuting back hard during the season to spur fast regrowth [21:56:42] kman wheere? [21:56:45] where [21:56:55] Sweden [21:57:12] And you? [21:57:31] 10% wild plants is good going [21:57:37] UK normally [21:57:46] Yeah i think so to. Got really creative. [21:58:01] Bought a flora and borrowed all books i could find on the subject [21:58:03] kman is on the other side of the bigger pool of water located between us :) [21:58:06] Took notes, went out harvesting. [21:58:22] Got anything written up? [21:58:31] Only on paper :/ [21:58:38] What were your best crops? [21:59:05] Or should that be forages [21:59:31] Highest yields / favourites [21:59:45] Wow.. Id say.. Ground elder. [21:59:58] Black currant leaves. [22:00:14] I've always been a bit unsure about the flavour [22:00:17] (not really wild i suppose) [22:00:21] Maybe I cooked it wrong [22:00:33] smelling-stick (funny name) [22:00:44] .... wild manners [22:00:51] (if its in your garden) [22:01:07] Oh yeah meadowsweet [22:01:14] In every smoothie i made. [22:01:42] I know Caly can attest to the taste of them ^^ [22:01:57] smelling-stick? Yeah, but they are in such abundance here. [22:02:06] ... I have run my own garden maintenance business for 10 years - you never get rid of it!!!! ever [22:02:20] You turn a shovelsworth of soil on its back and you will find a smelling-stick two days later. [22:02:51] ??? [22:02:59] They seem to grow out of thin air [22:03:21] Latin name? Link? [22:03:25] Oh sorry.. [22:03:51] Chenopodium album [22:05:33] Ah yeah I know as fat hen... very common [22:05:47] And yummy ! [22:06:11] The seeds and the leaves make for great salad ingredients. [22:06:33] Yeah [22:08:58] think you'll like that wild food link I posted. i been dabbling with wild food for years (20?) but got new ideas from there. [22:09:39] kman: that plant counts as quinoa in pl [22:10:58] lukas yeah lots of that family are great for food [22:11:02] Which would be wrong, although it is very similar to other members of the Chenopodium genus. [22:11:08] quinoa will grow in UK [22:11:53] https://www.un.org/en/events/observances/years.shtml [22:11:54] URL Title: International Years — United Nations Observances [22:11:58] And what do we have under 2013? [22:12:19] DZR, im going to try growing it in sweden this year. [22:12:27] Bananas and plantains everywhere here.... almost like wild food... could have a good forest garden here [22:12:32] Its and incredible beneficial plant. [22:12:43] Wow.. What a dream ^^ [22:13:20] But the people living in the community center are only interested in growing coffee...... [22:13:32] (where I'm staying) [22:14:03] Nice people couple from the community with a baby and a guy from the capital [22:14:19] Id grow coffee if i could. [22:14:28] But it would be far from my main focus ^^ [22:14:41] :) [22:14:45] They aint growing it to drink [22:15:07] Although I guess they will a bit [22:15:39] They do lots of work with the community [22:16:49] DZR, growing it to sell then ? [22:17:02] Yeah [22:17:38] Lots of craft workshops - making jewelry, performance stuff with the kids. [22:18:17] They have table football and as soon as school finishes till it gets late the kids are here playing [22:20:32] My partners friend who put us onto the place works in a village nearby with a womans project growing.... coffee..... but other food too [22:20:46] Hopefully I go there soon and help out [22:22:45] Iv got a couple (or well more like ten) plants on the window shelf actually. [22:25:38] kman.... coffee [22:26:59] ? [22:27:24] The plants are Arabica, yes. [22:27:42] ah... interesting [22:27:57] will the crop if you keep them form the cold? [22:28:04] the = they [22:30:51] :D year of quinoa!!! [22:33:36] *** Joins: Kimsan (racer@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [22:34:10] The year of chisaya mama! ^^ [22:34:30] They will probably if i feed them sparingly and give them enough sunlight. [22:35:31] Remeber reading about someone growing it in my hometown back in 1990... Started eating it soon after [22:35:48] Quinoa that is :) [22:36:18] she was a bit of a pioneer. Vegetarian into self sufficiency [22:37:04] I never got it together to visit her unfortunately. Always meant to then years later read that she had moved away.. (or died??) [22:45:01] (probably not from malnutrition ^^) [22:45:18] Im really looking forward to seeing how it will grow in these climates. [22:45:33] Anyways, off to bed and a couple of chapters in Wild Fermentation! [22:45:36] p/ [22:46:15] *** Quits: kman (kman@RBOSE-1vjua3.student.uu.se) (Connection closed) [23:12:57] *** Joins: nairboon (nairboon@RBOSE-vi8rlf.cust.bluewin.ch) [23:18:49] Quinoa was super hard to grow xD [23:18:55] never got it to sprout even [23:19:11] it should like high up I think , mountainz [23:25:17] *** Quits: DZR (Darren@RBOSE-53n.6me.212.190.IP) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [23:25:19] yes [23:25:22] south amerikuuuh [23:35:27] *** Joins: DZR (Darren@RBOSE-llf.6me.212.190.IP) [23:36:24] ok :) [23:36:31] so sweden isn south amerikuh? [23:36:38] dayum [23:40:08] *** Quits: Kimsan (racer@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.)