[00:10:56] CSO? [00:11:14] Rio, rio de janeiro or what? [00:11:39] there are so many organisations around it's hard to keep track of them all. [00:11:52] but it's great to see. all pushing for change. [00:49:06] *** Joins: Kimsan (Kimsan@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [01:01:34] scrdcow - think probably civil society organisations?? [01:18:24] oh [01:18:27] ah* [01:25:39] *** Quits: Kimsan (Kimsan@RBOSE-b8raf0.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) [01:34:52] DZR: what is happening? [01:38:55] dunno??? [01:39:04] what ya mean? [01:39:21] what do you mean... should I say??? [02:17:49] hehe nothing [02:17:54] just wandering what's up. [02:20:38] http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#NonFreeSoftwareLicenses - look at all the weird licencies that are incompatible to GPL because they want to restrict users in various ways, although for good means in some cases. [02:20:40] URL Title: Various Licenses and Comments about Them - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) [02:20:47] with* [02:21:39] “The Software shall be used for Good, not Evil.” - lol [02:23:29] *** Quits: Kebap (LeckerKebap@RBOSE-ecgoi0.unitymediagroup.de) (Connection closed) [02:24:55] I think all those licenses (the ones not compatible to GPL) hinder the spread of free software since the works released under those can't be used with the majority of free code (that is released under GPL or under a GPL-compatible license). [02:25:08] with* [02:25:19] maybe not in a big way but still. [02:35:36] Thats a lot of licences ! [02:36:02] http://osrc.blackducksoftware.com/data/licenses/index.php [02:36:03] URL Title: Open Source License Data | Open Source Resource Center presented by Black Duck Software [02:40:03] about 4% is not compatible with GPL. [02:40:27] which means 4% can't be used with the rest of 96% [02:40:28] So the vast majority are proper free... [02:40:49] well, compatible with GPL> [02:41:04] it can be a free software license according to FSF, but still be incompatible with GPL. [02:41:29] sorry typed that before u posted [02:41:54] ah ok :-) [02:42:22] maybe I shouldn't be to worried about smaller weirdo licenses anyways. [02:42:24] just didnt press return cos I was checking something...... [02:42:41] depends..... are you a small weirdo? [02:43:46] http://www.gnu.org/licenses/hessla.html [02:43:47] URL Title: HESSLA - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF) [02:43:54] DZR: haha, yes.. but i'm not a license ;-) [02:44:42] maybe you need one??? [02:45:59] "As for restricting the use of the software by governments that violate human rights, this is likely to be ineffective. There are many other programs they can use. Also, at least under US law, a copyright-based source license can't restrict use of the program; such a restriction is not enforcible anyway. Meanwhile, they can simply decide they are exempt from the restrictions." seems that it's pretty useless then. [02:46:15] atleast in the states [02:46:22] DZR: i license to kill [02:46:29] A* [02:47:29] is that the apple version? [02:47:52] iLicense to kill [02:48:09] I need to have a cigg and go to bed. [02:48:23] yeah its getting to that time. [02:48:45] So cant stop the evil ones with licences then..... [02:49:06] Have to use the drone army [02:49:35] hehe [02:50:09] or does that sort of make things a bit contradictory? [02:50:21] we can buy some for protection ;-) [02:50:51] wonder if they were able to be bought, would spring up some drone-hacking community around them ;-) [02:50:57] can I have a mat black one please [02:50:57] DZR: what? [02:51:50] tomorrow is the last day for PC-design [02:52:00] and then it's done... puh. [02:52:03] started talking about licensing software against military use? [02:52:18] last day PC design? [02:52:21] yes, but what part would be contradictory? [02:52:27] DZR: permaculture [02:52:32] getting military? [02:53:07] DZR: buying from the military? i'm just joking around anyway [02:53:21] I want a mat black one! [02:53:33] haha [02:53:43] it would match my curtains in the living room [02:53:49] ?? [02:53:51] ??[x]: Usage: ?? [> nick] [02:54:18] ? [02:54:40] you learning or teaching? [02:54:52] just rolled a cigg... [02:55:32] you know... people who buy expensive junk that matches "the curtains in my bedroom" etc.. or some shit like that. it was a joke. [02:55:51] learning or teaching? [02:56:04] PC [02:56:16] learning [02:56:20] i'm still a noob [02:56:34] how long is the course (was) [02:57:12] I understand the design process, principles and stuff like that. but haven't studiet that much more ;-) [02:57:55] I can never bring myself to pay for courses.... [02:58:03] .... any courses [02:58:34] DZR: hmm... 3 x 3 days... 72hours or such I think. it's pretty standard [02:58:47] i'm not paying. [02:58:51] I read a lot, experiment, make friends with people who know more than I do [02:59:20] rather i'm getting paid doing it hehe (depending on how you see things... I have wellfare) [02:59:30] :) [02:59:40] but i'm not really supposed to be allowed to do this [02:59:54] stop it then [02:59:57] studying + wellfare [03:00:02] bad [03:00:05] I am, thursday, when it ends ;-D [03:01:58] but, time to sleep. goodnight [03:02:18] Yeah goodnight :) [03:07:40] http://noonco.com/edison/ [03:07:41] URL Title: Edison Nickel Iron Battery NiFe Builder's Page [03:08:24] ah.....didnt mean to do that..... 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