[19:19:05] *** Joins: DustWolf (DustWolf@RBOSE-8d765021.ctrl-alt-del.si) [19:29:04] [User:DustWolf] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=User%3ADustWolf&diff=4621&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+199) Created page with " username = DustWolf location = Europe, Slovenia, Ljubljana language = Slovenian, English skills = low level programming, webdev, sysadmin (l..." [19:29:48] [User:DustWolf] Major change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=User%3ADustWolf&diff=4622&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+18)  [19:32:37] [User:DustWolf] Major change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=User%3ADustWolf&diff=4623&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+86)  [19:35:47] lukas: menu links seems somewhat blankish [19:36:09] "blankish" ? [19:37:03] for example if I click Community > People [19:37:07] I get the first page [19:37:35] yes, we are working on content for that [19:37:50] I mean [19:38:05] the liink points to http://rbose.org/wiki/ [19:38:08] not http://rbose.org/wiki/People [19:40:16] yes, because People page is like "alpha", and I want to replace it soon with more automated solution [19:40:40] * DustWolf nodnods [19:40:42] oky :) [19:40:50] :) [19:40:58] !dance DustWolf [19:40:59] ACTION starts a wild pogo-dancing in the nicklist and suddenly hits DustWolf in #WIKI [19:41:00] though admitedly it seems automated enough to me xD [19:41:05] :o [19:41:13] :) [19:41:18] the table is autogenerated and so are the pictures? :) [19:41:35] but I'll take your word for it hehe [19:42:23] [User:DustWolf] Minor change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=User%3ADustWolf&diff=4624&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+17)  [19:43:41] DustWolf, yes, pictures and table is autogenerated, but we really want to take it further than that [19:44:03] sounds interesting :) [19:45:25] here begins my effort to squeeze in EOS content into your wiki :P [19:47:44] DustWolf, you listed window$ to work on it O_o ? [19:47:59] skills? It's my job [19:48:13] obviously it's one of the things im good at :P [19:48:29] X_x [19:48:29] I can also code for the windows environment in ASM [19:48:46] I see it as a technical matter... does it bother you? [19:48:47] * DNS is good in formatting windows C: [19:48:50] proprietary soft is locking down people, you are good at it? [19:48:57] hehe [19:48:59] well I hate it too you know ;P [19:49:28] I'm working on getting people softened up to use Linux but it'll be a few years at least [19:50:21] DustWolf, i will put it this way: we are in collaboration with Free Software Foundation for example, would be cool to not have window$ shit here from my perspective [19:50:35] yeah I totally agree [19:50:35] we don't want to send to people double messages [19:50:36] !windows [19:50:37] I hate microsoft. Check: http://rbose.org/wiki/Windows7sins [19:50:40] if it bothers you I'll remove it [19:50:44] !windows [19:50:45] I am happy to run not such as crappy operating system and i like to run on debian. Check: http://rbose.org/wiki/Debian [19:50:55] you really don't have to justify it for me xD [19:51:02] :> [19:51:05] cool :D [19:52:10] we are really extreme when it comes to it and that makes rbose different, no proprietary shit what so ever [19:53:12] [Category:EOS] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category%3AEOS&diff=4625&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+1704) Created page with "EOS = European Organisation for Sustainability See also: [http://www.eoslife.eu/ EOS website] The European Organisation for Sustainability (EOS) is an autonomous research organi..." [19:54:02] [Category:EOS] Minor change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category%3AEOS&diff=4626&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+7)  [19:55:00] [User:DustWolf] Major change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=User%3ADustWolf&diff=4627&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4-18)  [19:55:56] now to figure out how to add a right-aligned image... [19:57:09] [[File:image_name|right]] [19:57:14] hehe [19:57:20] thanks :) [19:58:17] [Category:EOS] Minor change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category%3AEOS&diff=4628&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+24) added logo (not uploaded yet) [19:58:40] DustWolf, you could keep there this string, just link it to http://rbose.org/wiki/Defective_by_Design , http://rbose.org/wiki/Windows7sins and http://rbose.org/wiki/BadVista ;) [19:58:45] http://rbose.org/wiki/Wiki < its not complete but there you can find some more help [19:58:55] thanks DNS [19:59:53] lukas: really... believe me, it is impossible to be good tech support for windows and not fully comprehend all of it's flaws [20:00:01] I'm good tech support [20:00:08] I use Linux [20:00:54] i understand, but we hope to create community not using this shit, and any support in that matter will be counterproductive to our effort [20:01:57] :) [20:02:04] [File:EOS.png] 4uploaded by 3DustWolf http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:Log/upload EOS logo [20:02:37] "Free software is not really about software in this fundamental sense; it's about bringing freedom to users through software. ~ Benjamin Mako Hill" [20:02:51] Mako :) [20:07:34] [File:EOS.png] 4uploaded by 3DustWolf http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:Log/upload Bigger render [20:11:47] hmm [20:12:06] if I include a category tag inside a template, does that make the pages that use the template a part of that category? [20:13:20] ah [20:13:22] it does [20:13:24] :) [20:17:35] [Template:EOS] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template%3AEOS&diff=4631&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+98) "Authored by EOS" tag [20:17:58] [File:EOStiny.png] 4uploaded by 3DustWolf http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:Log/upload Tiny EOS icon [20:19:11] [User:DustWolf] Major change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=User%3ADustWolf&diff=4633&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4-9)  [20:23:00] *** Quits: TWIKI (BotServ15@Buck.Rogers.RBOSE.IRC) (pest.rbose.org pms.rbose.org) [20:23:00] *** Quits: Kebap (kebap@RBOSE-f6fff50e.us) (pest.rbose.org pms.rbose.org) [20:23:00] *** Quits: |UFO| (UFO@Unidentified.Flying.Object) (pest.rbose.org pms.rbose.org) [20:23:00] *** Quits: God (God@localhost) (pest.rbose.org pms.rbose.org) [20:23:00] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-d4b8b615.bredband.skanova.com) (pest.rbose.org pms.rbose.org) [20:23:00] *** Quits: BranManFloMizzle (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-f6fff50e.us) (pest.rbose.org pms.rbose.org) [20:23:00] *** Quits: Kebap_ (kebap@RBOSE-9f2493f5.adsl.hansenet.de) (pest.rbose.org pms.rbose.org) [20:24:08] *** Joins: BranManFloMizzle (BranManFloMor@RBOSE-f6fff50e.us) [20:24:08] *** Joins: |UFO| (UFO@Unidentified.Flying.Object) [20:24:08] *** Joins: God (God@localhost) [20:24:08] *** Joins: Kebap_ (kebap@RBOSE-9f2493f5.adsl.hansenet.de) [20:24:08] *** Joins: Kebap (kebap@RBOSE-f6fff50e.us) [20:24:08] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-d4b8b615.bredband.skanova.com) [20:24:08] *** Joins: TWIKI (BotServ15@Buck.Rogers.RBOSE.IRC) [20:24:38] wb :P [20:24:55] Hmmm.... [20:32:03] [Template:EOS] Major change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template%3AEOS&diff=4634&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+11) originally authored since anyone can change them :) [20:35:17] [EOS Board Meetings] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=EOS_Board_Meetings&diff=4635&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+4134) Migrating from our wiki [20:36:09] [EOS Board Meetings] Minor change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=EOS_Board_Meetings&diff=4636&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+1) making it prettyer [20:38:41] [EOS Board Meeting Agenda] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=EOS_Board_Meeting_Agenda&diff=4637&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+481) ...migrating... [20:39:10] [EOS Board Meeting Agenda] Minor change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=EOS_Board_Meeting_Agenda&diff=4638&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+80)  [20:46:13] *** Joins: pax (pax@RBOSE-d5a34c95.dip.t-dialin.net) [20:49:49] hi pax :) [20:50:09] hey DustWolf [20:54:31] [Human Nature] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Human_Nature&diff=4639&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+4954) migrate.. [20:54:53] ah, you have begun migrating articles? [20:55:02] just a few important ones [20:55:10] want to take it slow to make sure people don't see problems [20:55:25] always possible to go back :) [20:56:05] well not "important ones" but useful ones :P [20:56:34] fine :) [20:57:53] [Automation] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Automation&diff=4640&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+4942) migrate [21:02:08] I'm wondering about etherpad or stuff like that [21:03:09] why? [21:03:30] at EOS we have been using the wiki for writing up content together [21:03:40] I'm not sure if it's very well suited for that purpose [21:04:19] for immediate response the pads are better [21:04:30] [Technocracy] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Technocracy&diff=4641&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+22930) migrate [21:05:10] it is up to individuals which media they prefer for cooperation [21:05:43] EOS has this habbit of providing a package deal :) it's easier for people who do not themselves master webdev [21:06:06] I mean I'm sure they'd use somethign more etherpadlike if they knew how [21:06:16] so need to prepare something to that end :) [21:06:26] does RBOSE have anything like this specifically it's own? :) [21:06:58] not yet installed. people use piratepad and other pad providers [21:07:10] * DustWolf nodnods [21:07:22] guess I could configure one for EOS then :) [21:08:16] I'd find it cool to have one on our servers so we have more control over our documents [21:08:21] oh here's something I can't migrate yet :) [21:08:36] yeah that's what I think too :) [21:09:53] [ENACT] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=ENACT&diff=4642&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+3583) migrate [21:11:56] [Dynamic Energy Accounting] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Dynamic_Energy_Accounting&diff=4643&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+8967) migrate [21:12:00] if you want to let the contents table float to the right, use {{TOC}} [21:12:46] [File:EOS DEA Static.png] 4uploaded by 3DustWolf http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:Log/upload EOS Dynamic Energy Accounting artcile - Static example diagram [21:13:36] [Dynamic Energy Accounting] Minor change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Dynamic_Energy_Accounting&diff=4645&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+8) /* Function */ namespace prefix for images [21:14:11] [File:EOS DEA Dynamic.png] 4uploaded by 3DustWolf http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:Log/upload EOS Dynamic Energy Accounting article - Dynamic example diagram [21:19:22] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [21:20:24] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [21:21:22] [Template:PCS] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template%3APCS&diff=4647&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+205) standards.ctrl-alt-del.si interface [21:22:54] [Technate] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Technate&diff=4648&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+9160) migrate [21:27:21] [Technate] Major change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Technate&diff=4649&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+2987) /* Forming a Proto-Technate */ adding content [21:27:52] [Technate] Major change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Technate&diff=4650&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+4) /* A Proto-technate as a Network */ namespace transposition [21:28:21] [File:EOS TechnateNPOOptions.png] 4uploaded by 3DustWolf http://rbose.org/wiki/Special:Log/upload EOS Technate article - NPO's options diagram [21:31:34] [Technate] Major change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Technate&diff=4652&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+7249) /* Forming a Proto-Technate */ adding content [21:36:16] [Technate] Major change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Technate&diff=4653&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+13654) /* Forming a Proto-Technate */ adding content [21:36:39] [Technate] Major change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Technate&diff=4654&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4-10) /* A List of Suggested Community Names */  [21:37:58] [Suggested Community Names] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Suggested_Community_Names&diff=4655&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+2595) migrate [21:41:35] [Talk:Technate] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Talk%3ATechnate&diff=4656&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+566) Created page with "This is a raw migrate from the EOS website (with some minor corrections). If you find anything on this page outrageous or unacceptable, please bare with us. We invite you to come..." [21:44:30] [Template:EOS] Major change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template%3AEOS&diff=4657&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4-6) Link to category instead of outside world [21:46:24] *** Joins: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@RBOSE-05844981.cust.bredband2.com) [21:48:09] [Category:EOS] Minor change in http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category%3AEOS&diff=4658&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4-40) /* Vision */ oops [21:54:16] [Category talk:EOS] new page http://rbose.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category_talk%3AEOS&diff=4659&oldid=prev by 3DustWolf (4+675) Created page with "The articles in this category are a raw migrate from the EOS website (with some minor corrections). If you find anything outrageous or unacceptable, please bare with us. We invit..." [21:55:48] *** Joins: warpi_ (warpi@RBOSE-a9f20fd4.cust.telenor.se) [21:56:00] *** Quits: warpi_ (warpi@RBOSE-a9f20fd4.cust.telenor.se) (Client closed the connection) [22:07:49] lukas: http://rbose.org/wiki/Category_talk:EOS [22:08:10] checking.... [22:08:18] if you end up looking trough them and find something you can't agree with having on what is basically your wiki [22:08:28] feel free to take your time [22:08:45] I hope we can find a way to cooperate despite the differences :P [22:08:55] *** Quits: warpi (warpi@RBOSE-a9f20fd4.cust.telenor.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [22:09:26] DustWolf, ok :) [22:09:32] :) [22:11:31] *** Joins: kman (erik@RBOSE-d0fb07bb.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [22:12:23] DustWolf, have you read maybe this: http://pastebin.com/tTsWAba1 ? [22:12:51] haven't seen it yet :) [22:12:55] * DustWolf reads [22:13:05] hey DustWolf :) maybe you want to create a overview-box for the eos pages like osf and some other projects have: http://rbose.org/wiki/OSF [22:13:07] we are still working on this stuff, but there is some important points we want to focus on [22:13:27] hi Kebap_, I was going to suggest the same [22:13:29] :) [22:13:52] thanks for the suggestion :) [22:14:05] but I think this will be easier when more of the content is migrated [22:14:25] I want to see how things work out so far :) [22:15:19] ok, I guess people will read though the content and see how that works for them :) [22:15:34] yeah pretty much :) [22:16:31] please let me know later what you think about the thoughts in that pastebin [22:17:13] bbs [22:17:24] *** Quits: pax (pax@RBOSE-d5a34c95.dip.t-dialin.net) (Connection closed) [22:22:21] lukas: if you equiped those with sources where the data came from it would make one hell of an article :) [22:22:28] very useful [22:22:45] OK, will do so :) [22:23:06] *** Joins: pax (pax@RBOSE-d5a34c95.dip.t-dialin.net) [22:23:28] I will forward the link to people at EOS that I know are working on this kind of thing [22:23:39] I'm sure they'll find it awesome :) [22:25:09] cool, thank you :) [22:29:51] welcome back pax! [22:30:26] bow to your master ;) [22:30:51] !hug lukas [22:30:54] ACTION hugs lukas for pax and hopes that lukas enjoys it :) [22:31:18] lol [22:43:48] "master" ;) [22:53:17] yea, i wonder where he took that from, last time he was running after me with a stick, lol [22:53:26] !slap pax [22:53:27] ACTION slaps pax a bit around #WIKI with some happiness [22:53:56] you are missing the stick, lukas? [22:54:05] why didnt you tell earlier? :D [22:54:17] lol [22:55:28] hm, it's shredded. seems as though someone is built robustly [22:55:48] * pax throws stones at lukas [22:57:01] pax, is you connection already stable enough so you could join us in mumble? [22:57:17] no, it is horrible, i am sorry [22:57:56] what are you talking there? [22:58:31] disarmament? ;) [22:59:27] no talking atm but i would like to talk with you and hear how are you doing :) [23:00:07] * pax grabs his virus shield and hides in a corner [23:00:32] lol [23:03:27] hey lukas [23:03:34] there was one thing I was wondering about :) [23:03:53] yes? [23:03:58] our wiki doesn't have any really useful features anyway, except one which I kinda coded myself [23:04:08] uses the external data extension which is not very secure [23:04:15] but it does this... [23:04:47] http://wiki.eoslife.eu/index.php/Proto-technate#Formal_definition [23:05:03] basically fetches the data to here http://standards.ctrl-alt-del.si/2.0/index.php/2-20100426-120332.html [23:05:15] (http://standards.ctrl-alt-del.si/2.0/index.php/2-20100426-120332.wiki) [23:06:16] I was basically looking for a way to implement this without manually copying the data :P [23:08:01] just something to think about I guess XD [23:08:03] no rush [23:12:35] *** Quits: kman (erik@RBOSE-d0fb07bb.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [23:15:22] lukas: doesnt work. i give up. cant even rejoin [23:15:31] *** Quits: lundburgerr-TZM (lundburgerr@RBOSE-05844981.cust.bredband2.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [23:19:54] yes, we see that :| [23:20:17] there is a connection tracker [23:20:27] i mean in the #mumble channel [23:20:34] at irc :) [23:33:02] *** Joins: Kebap__ (kebap@RBOSE-4d1d3b65.adsl.alicedsl.de) [23:36:20] *** Quits: Kebap_ (kebap@RBOSE-9f2493f5.adsl.hansenet.de) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [23:37:27] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-d4b8b615.bredband.skanova.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [23:41:41] http://library.auroville.org.in/ [23:42:01] that's where I am going to work [23:42:10] going to go [23:46:45] cool pax :D [23:50:31] just came to my mind that i miss the real work and life in a commune