[00:50:31] hi :) [02:01:50] Yeah!!.. :D [02:02:04] http://www.eoslife.eu/ << look for "Technate-wide news" on the right :) [02:02:09] URL Title: European Organisation for Sustainability (at www.eoslife.eu) [02:02:21] monster RSS aggregator [03:23:16] *** DNS is now known as ET [03:23:22] *** ET is now known as DNS [06:03:58] *** Quits: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-f1c1e7fc.bredband.skanova.com) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [06:21:51] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [06:35:58] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [08:12:54] *** Joins: kman (kman@11ED70.39EA55.859DFC.C0D209) [08:13:55] *** kman is now known as Guest58429 [08:15:07] *** Guest58429 is now known as kman- [08:16:48] *** [o_0] is now known as God [08:37:32] *** Viper is now known as Out`Of`Control [08:43:03] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [08:58:52] -rBOTse- kman entered Programming channel at Mumble [09:01:09] *** Quits: kman- (kman@11ED70.39EA55.859DFC.C0D209) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [09:02:31] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [09:15:15] *** Joins: kman- (kman@11ED70.39EA55.859DFC.C0D209) [10:43:10] *** Quits: kman- (kman@11ED70.39EA55.859DFC.C0D209) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [11:29:01] *** Joins: Kebap_ (kebap@RBOSE-7c638ce2.adsl.alicedsl.de) [11:32:05] *** Quits: Kebap (kebap@rbose.org) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [11:45:34] *** Joins: Caly (Caly@RBOSE-f1c1e7fc.bredband.skanova.com) [12:10:01] DNS kalken Kebap_ lukas Out`Of`Control [12:10:01] thyextendedself> why cant i register at the site [12:10:01] is it not yet available? [12:10:13] what site bro? [12:10:14] RBOSE [12:10:49] *** Joins: thyextendedself (qwebirc@C85ECB.D28BAA.80567D.91EB54) [12:10:56] hi [12:11:12] i cannot join the website when i click register [12:11:21] there you are. [12:11:33] lukas: any idéa ? [12:13:39] cannot click login register [12:40:10] hi? [12:44:12] *** Quits: thyextendedself (qwebirc@C85ECB.D28BAA.80567D.91EB54) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [13:13:00] hey [13:13:06] caly [13:14:49] on rbose.org itself, there is a "Login" text, but it is fake, you can't register there. you can register at rbose.org/wiki though, or at our pms, at irc, at mumble, etc etc [13:19:37] guys, this guys is spamming main channel for hours [13:19:43] take a look: http://rbose.org/stats/ [13:19:44] URL Title: #RBOSE @ irc://irc.rbose.org:6670 stats by MissBoty (at rbose.org) [13:20:01] in few hours he is on 20 position [13:20:25] i really wonder if this is some kind of bot [13:20:44] of course not [13:20:52] just an interested person [13:20:57] dont be so paranoid lukas :D [13:21:22] well, combain 23 with 20, then you have even more [13:21:33] combine [13:21:51] yeah he is talking a lot, i get that [13:22:20] he talks massive amount tzm's and tvp's shit [13:22:42] and some answers don't make sense at all [13:22:52] yeah sure, he expected to be there when he joined here [13:23:04] i am just reading up [13:23:22] look at reactions time [13:24:37] we really have a weird approach to ppl who join here from tzm [13:26:57] because they are bringing shit about scientology and crap like that? why we even bother to waste time on that advertisement army? why we cannot go serious? [13:28:00] why this bad smell of esoteric stuff and believe systems goes after us? [13:28:32] i think you mix some things up there that really ought to be seperated, and its a very emotional debate as well, tough times [13:29:00] Kebap_, ask hungarian guys about connections with scientology [13:29:39] no i will first read up on what happened tonight at #rbose [13:32:32] * rBOTse wonders from where all these believers are coming from?! <-- since tzm.com shut down its irc, and we have some old zeitgeist-webchats redirected to #rbose, tzm-interested people will continue to join here, its no offense, they just want to know more [13:35:15] the discussion culture seems extremely hostile to me, all people just gather around and talk AT him, i am actually impressed that he didnt quit a long time ago, like most of the tzm-ppl who accidentally land here and get insulted right away [13:35:57] here and there, i see bits of arguments coming to top, but they get quickly washed away by more hatred and irony [13:36:27] and i am only 1h into the conversation [13:52:52] 2nd hour is getting calmer and more rational, i like [13:52:58] Kebap_, a question: what you can do with people who are prone to believes and esoteric stories? they tend to believe in code, scientific method, etc. instead of trying to use any of them, and most are total noobs when it comes to use of a simple hammer even - how many of them you met working on something what other people can _really_ use? [13:53:44] thats one huge generalization there [13:54:13] it's my experience [13:54:40] actually i find this guy rather critical in his utterings, not much engulfed in believes or ignoring arguments [13:55:16] yea, did you count how many times "he" asked about the same link which has been posted over an over? [13:55:39] hm do you want to rather talk about him or generalized experience with unhelpful people? [13:56:14] i can only see where 5 ppl talk at him at the same time and dont even wait for him to answer the first question, they already know his answer [13:57:06] Well, i haven't sleep for an over a day, so it could be affecting me, but here is the point i'm really interested in: [13:57:11] did you interupt python class to deal with him or were you already finished at that time? [13:57:53] gee lukas, get some sleep [14:00:33] ok, i give up for today [14:01:23] no dont give up please, just let it rest for a while [14:01:41] btw, i have no idea whats currently happening in #rbose, i still read the logs from tonight [14:54:15] Kebap_: I'd have to agree with you here. Althou, i didn't bother reading tonights logs. [14:54:39] to buissy with TED and likewise constructive stuff [14:54:53] yeah thats probably the wiser choice there [14:55:24] hehe, personally i think we can turn this guy around, he seems to listen when one doesn't judge. [14:55:49] sure i took some chances to bash Jaque/TVP/TZM etc. [14:55:53] hehe [14:56:25] but i get that he's prolly quite new to TZM and all that, he obviously has no clue as to the prior story and actions. [15:38:53] *** Kebap_ is now known as Kebap [15:50:18] kalken lukas Out`Of`Control Kebap [15:50:57] if one has an idéa for a program concept (software), where does one best put it up for developers to evaluate? github? [15:51:27] what [15:51:56] good question [15:52:05] i dont think there is a global solution, yet [15:52:11] what kind of idea is it? [15:52:16] as a non coder i have no clue. [15:53:15] oh, a guy on a wikileaks IRC chan wants input on how to make a torrent client or torrent system that don't reveal users IP [15:54:10] there is somwhere else than github i think, can't recall the name thou... [15:54:37] oh i thought you had a solution and just needed someone to implement it, now seems more like you have a problem and look for a solution yourself [15:55:13] about torrent, try adressing it to p2p filesharing developers [15:56:45] i have never seen anything like you propose. dont even know if its possible at all. after all, you do need to know where to get data from / set data to, so you have the ip, if you wouldn't know the adress, who should you p2p with? maybe centralised server, but thats even more security issue [15:58:02] maybe try reddit.com or such big audiences [15:58:38] should work to get some brainstorming going [16:03:01] hmm... [16:03:14] dont get lost on reddit though ^^ its massive [16:04:15] this was not my idéa, but i can't see why it would be impossible. A network can obviously exist without handing over ones geographical position... [16:04:28] TOR, proxy etc. [16:04:38] why not have it built into the torrent system? [16:06:01] oh you can torrent through TOR/proxy, but you will still send an IP there, only it is not your own ip but of some "spokes-person" of you [16:06:14] thats "security through obscurity", not 100% safe [16:06:54] the feds would have to go through your proxy first, then get at you [16:42:57] *** Out`Of`Control is now known as Viper [16:52:31] DustWolf HI [16:55:53] Kebap: yeah... we'll se, i think the .p2p community is onto something in regards to that. [16:56:06] not using normal IP system that is. [16:56:12] or distorting it somehow. [16:56:24] a system not based at physical nodes. [16:56:31] *on [17:19:22] yeah looking forward to .p2p [17:22:11] *** Joins: kman- (kman@11ED70.39EA55.859DFC.C0D209) [17:29:25] o/ [17:47:02] hi kman [18:43:19] *** Joins: Julius (Julius@RBOSE-6d36528f.pool.telekom.hu) [18:51:27] lukas, i got preoccupied by a family dinner that lasted for five hours. Iv probably got some time to talk tomorrow evening around 19. [20:47:41] kman-: släkten e värst [20:49:42] Caly, den tar mycket tid. Fick låna bootloader brännaren från lundberger btw. Hoppas jag hinner testa lite elektronik kommande vecka. [21:18:43] najs! [21:19:09] har svärmor å svägerska här själv, men fick do miaf att se dokun om wikileaks =P [21:19:25] och Kalla Fakta om vaccinbiverkningarna. [21:19:27] =) [21:47:36] Keep it up bro ^^ [21:51:51] *** Quits: SoNeta (piespy@rbose.IRC.people) (Connection closed) [21:51:53] *** Quits: God (God@NetAdmin.RBOSE) (Client closed the connection) [21:51:55] *** Quits: Viper (Viper@NetAdmin.RBOSE) (Client closed the connection) [21:51:59] *** Quits: |UFO| (UFO@Unidentified.Flying.Object) (pms.rbose.org viper.rbose.org) [21:51:59] *** Quits: kalken (default@RBOSE-fddf66be.bredband.comhem.se) (pms.rbose.org viper.rbose.org) [21:52:07] *** Joins: kalken (default@RBOSE-1c8c1828.bredband.comhem.se) [22:03:10] *** Quits: Julius (Julius@psyc.RBOSE) (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.0 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) [22:08:38] *** Joins: SoNeta (piespy@RBOSE-3511f9dc.static.versatel.nl) [22:09:54] *** Joins: |UFO| (UFO@Unidentified.Flying.Object) [22:09:54] *** HACKER sets mode: +o |UFO| [22:11:07] *** Joins: Viper (Viper@NetAdmin.RBOSE) [22:13:00] *** Joins: God (God@localhost) [22:40:27] lukas, DNS , i made some changes to the terms of use text. I think it came out better this way. Take a look and tell me what you think tomorrow. [22:40:36] We need this on our wiki asap i think ^^ [22:45:50] what link? [22:45:54] Hi kman- :D [22:46:44] Viper, ^^ [22:46:45] http://openetherpad.com/x6OhK7j8XG [22:46:46] URL Title: EtherPad: x6OhK7j8XG (at openetherpad.com) [22:47:11] The text i talked about earlier that we ended up writing collaboratively [22:47:57] Going to bed. [22:47:59] *poff [22:51:14] ok ty [22:52:11] *** Quits: kman- (kman@11ED70.39EA55.859DFC.C0D209) (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) [23:34:42] hi guys :) [23:48:03] if one has an idéa for a program concept (software), where does one best put it up for developers to evaluate? github? [23:48:35] Caly, we have a place for not implemented ideas here: [23:49:00] http://rbose.org/wiki/Ideas_for_web_development [23:49:01] URL Title: Ideas for web development - RBOSE (at rbose.org)