NatureloverChris wrote:

> >I was obviously not asking for a copy-paste out of the nearest

> >dictionary, I can do that myself.

> 

> I did not copy-paste from a dictionary, I gave you my understanding of what

> animals are. Are you asking why I like animals?



"Well your nickname is NatureloverChris, why do you think I'm asking you

why you like animals?!" To quote a NT. =P



Seriously, I was wondering what do YOU think of animals. I was hoping to

pintch in the area that would get you babbling about animals, so I could

get to learn something new. ;]



> >I was wondering if there is anything you see in animals that others don't.

> 

> How would I know what others think about animals? Which animals? If other

> people have one opinion about all animals I am unaware of it. In my experience,

> most people don't even know what animals are. For example, I've had several

> different people say that insects aren't animals.



Well, for my example, I can communicate some stuff to and from dogs that

other's missunderstand or simply not notice. I was hoping you could fill

in the unknowns in what I'm saying, with your favourite subjects, so I

would have a conversation going with you about what you like to talk

about.



> > Is there anything such? Do you consider animals as inferiors?

> 

> I can not make a statement that animals are inferior. It is too broad a

> statement. If there was a burning building and a human baby and a puppy and I

> could only rescue one, I would rescue the human (Silly example, but I'm tired).

> In that sense humans are more important, because I AM human. However, if humans

> disappeared from the earth, most species of plants and animals would survive.

> If insects disappeared it would be a far different story. In that insects are

> more important.



Ok, I'll give a more concrete case. Do you know the theory and

scientific work behind the title of "Homo Ferus"? It's about a few

autistic kids that got left in the woods by their parents and have grown

up to be behaving just like animals. The research done ages behind (in

Napoleon's times; but also just recently, in 1920), had still splited

thinking into "human thinking" and "animal thinking" (the reason being

that the previously mentioned kids stayed animal-like despite all

training efforts). Do you think you could tell the diffirence between

the two? In which one would you place your kind of thinking in?



I think I see the diffirence between the two, but I could not directly

explain it in 100%. I suppose my thinking as of the animal kind.



> > What is your oppinion about the general understanding of animals and nature?

> 

> Err... this question is much too broad. People write very long books on this.

> Can you narrow it down?



Ok: What do you like talking about when talking about animals and

nature? =]



> >To me, the term "Nature" does not exist, "natural environment" does

> >however.

> 

> What do you mean the term nature doesn't exist? I could go get the dictionary

> ;-) I imagine people in my area use the term nature and natural environment

> interchangably. I think you are placing a value judgement on nature that I am

> not.



If the word "Nature" appears in a sentence, I will understand it the

same way as if there was an "X" in place of that word. However if

"natual environment" appears in a sentence, I will understand the

sentence with the meaning of the phrase.



> Well yes, because we are animals. Much of our natural behavior is animal

> behavior. There is rape in ducks, prostitution in hummingbirds, homosexuality

> in many species. In many species, including humans, infantcide is most common

> when a new male begins a relationship with a female. He kills the babies and

> she becomes reproductively viable more quickly.

> 

> I also find watching an ameboa as interesting as watching kids. Watching

> plankton in a microscope is really fun.



Hm, ok. But if you look into the eyes of a kid and into the eyes of a

young dog, what diffirences can you tell beyond the immediately obvious

ones?



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