Howling WereWolf wrote:

> Hey Rob! It's me back as you already know. :) You know I never leave a

> question unanswered, so here we go! Jure will be back next week BTW.



Jure is now back next week. =P



> > > Howling WereWolf wrote:

> > > > Hey! It's nice having you two here discussing! =P I'm not going to be

> > > > an exception! =P

> > >

> > > LOL. CyberHowling, right? All of the pack, what a chorus. =P

> >

> > AAwwoooooOOOOOOO!!!

> 

> lol, lovely Rob. I'd tell Jure that CyberHowling leaves your name out.

> What about Loner CyberHowling? ;D



Is that a name for the pack?



> > > > > > > > Favorite Were Saying/Quote: HowwooOOOooooooOOooOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sounds fammiliar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Really? I thought it'd be more original...

> > > > >

> > > > > I have an audio recording of the exactly same kind of howl here

> > > > > somewhere, a stream... I hope I can find it again.

> > > >

> > > > HowwooOOOooooooOOooOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Do I know what you're thinking

> > > > about? =P

> > >

> > > LOL, yes wolfy! It's on the CD, isn't it? That lone sounding Alpha howl!

> > > Has Rob got a copy of the CD yet?

> >

> > AAwwwOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Cd?? BTW Jure, you've gotta clarify which ROb it

> > is... let's call the Howler Rob and me Loner or something. Unless the

> > Howler just wants to be the Howler. Or Howling Wolf. Whatever. As on a

> > baseball team, I usually like everyone to have their nicknames :)

> 

> HowwooOOOooooooOOooOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! Heh, wolfy should call us Howler

> Rob and Loner Rob, we have to admit it's funny! Maybe Rob and

> Robert... =P Well Rob, let me explain it, I've told you about that

> Howling Wolves CD I have... I'd send it to you if I could! Just tell

> me when I can send it and I will at once! You'll love it...



To me it's generaly Robert, Rob, Jure. I and Robert (Howling) use

"wolfy" for eachother the way you, Rob (Loner) use "Rob" for both of

you... I guess we could end up calling eachother in manners like

CyberWolfy and HowlingWolfy, etc, but... What do you like more? My

computer likes it this way: Win_Robert, Win_Rob and Win_Jure, where the

entire three (web broadcast virtrual node) is the ICIGrp_Wolfpack.



> > Coincidence isn't just that anymore :) You know me and Rob (I'm not

> > sure about you Jure, I haven't talked to you long enough) often feel

> > the samw things at the saame time, emotions are "linked" in a way...

> > just kind of reminds me of our connection. It's very strong, I know

> > it. And Jure, well, me and Rob are brothers, we're brothers too.

> > Packmates. It's how it works. And we gotta get together someday, it's

> > going to happen eventually. It has to.

> 

> Hey you're right. What a shame Jure's not here now to read this, he

> would love it. Well, you and Jure haven't really talked for a long

> time but I've got you two together and now everything will be clear.

> It's so nice, we're linked in such a deep way that it will last

> forever... I've had time to talk to Jure and I know how it works for

> Cyber' and Howling... I'm sure it will work for you two, too. The pack

> is here!



Jure's here to read this and he loves it. =]



No panic, I know it's this way, we're a true pack. I feel the same.



> > > > Only humans are stupid enough to starve if they get lost in the woods.

> > >

> > > LOL. You read my mind. ;]

> >

> > I can't imagine ANYTHING being THAT stupid. Well, humans get weirded

> > out by things.

> 

> Who cares, the matter is that they starve. If they can't remember they

> need food to survive... LOL back for you wolfy, reading your mind is

> no surprize. ;]



It's one thing I have never managed to learn: Why do humans run OUT of

the forest when it starts raining? WHY do they start walking down the

PATHS?! One of the most Stupid sensles things... CAN'T THEY SEE that the

forest on their left and on their right is COMPLETELY DRY??!!



> > > The nasty Alpha Howling'. =P Wolfy, wolfy, don't abuse your position in

> > > the pack. ;] =P

> 

> It was a simple statement. Why have I got to suffer this torture!? ;]

> You know the Alpha position varies depending on the moment... =P



I was just thinking of the ID cards:



 Howling werewolf (Robert)

 Conherianthrope level werewolf

 On demand Alpha/Beta rank



...and...



 CyberLegend (Jure)

 Phisisical contherianthrope level werewolf

 On demand Alpha/Beta rank



...and...



 Loner wolf (Rob)

 Phisisical contherianthrope and dreamshift level weredog

 Beta rank



Of course all based on what I've heard so far.

 

> > ^..^ look into the eyes... mine are weird. I've been trying to get a

> > good color shot of them but it's mighty hard. I don't know who's who

> > in this pack, my dear frinds :) So Rob's the "alpha" and you're a beta

> > or something? I misunderstand. Oh well, here's the juvenile, not yet

> > able to secure a position <:/ lol.

> 

> Oh no Rob.



I do not see things as tragicaly. =P



You, Rob, probably know wolfpacks have Alphas and Betas in them.

Basicaly the hierarchy depends on where the joy is comming from. If for

a moment Robert becomes the ultimate source of joy for both of us (which

he does, he just doesn't realize it ;) we take him as the Alpha and the

two of us joyfully become Betas, feeding on the provided happines. When

times are hard and the required level of joy cannot be provided, the

Alpha climbs on the Beta's back and chews on the Beta's chest fur, which

brings a powerfull dose of happiness to the Beta and a full dose of

parental proudness to the Alpha, who now makes sure everything is the

best way as it should be. However because we currently have no

phyisicaly contact, we cannot enstablish who is Alpha and who Beta

unless the joy sources are conveniently provided.



Don't be suprized if I grab you the moment we get to meet IRL. =P



> > > > It's strange how humans tell you not to look at a dog's eyes, because

> > > > that will set the need to enstablish a hierarchy up, and as humans can

> > > > never be above a doggie, and they're too stupid to realize, then the

> > > > doggie attacks. =P However, if you look at a dog, he'll find a mate on

> > > > you, and someone to show his respect to. =P

> > >

> > > I don't know how the dog feels, we'll have to ask Rob again. =P Rob!

> > > Helloh! Come and tell us why do you think you get angry at humans when

> > > you look into their eyes. You get a cookie if you answer! =P

> >

> > Hey there!! COOKIE??!!! *pant pant* Naw, you know dogs only tolerate

> > about 4 seconds of eye contact! Wolves even less, am I right? Well it

> > depends. If I really tust so-and-so who's looking me in the eye, I'll

> > be mostly comfortable unless it goes on TOO long. Obviously when I

> > feel I'm in love or love someone, it's a positive thing. Though I have

> > not yet been "in love" with anyone; these human girls are awfully

> > weird, lol. Though there is one that catches my eye. But when someone

> > is giving me a "talk" and yell at me to look them in the eye, or

> > whenever I feel compelled to, it gives me a weird feeling. I go to

> > look away and the person gets annoyed. If someone gives me a glare for

> > too long I feel like I need to run or defend my position. It didn't

> > make much sense to me until recently. Some people it's reassuring of

> > status, and some people it's just menacing or encroaching upon my

> > space. I don't necessarily get ANGRY, I just feel weird about it. Most

> > people it's OK, especially when I know and respect their "status" over

> > me. But sometimes it's different. I don't completely understand it

> > myself, nor the terms it's based on. Now where's that cookie?

> 

> (I'll comment this later)

> 

> > > > > I just learned that wolves use visual status recgotnigion far better

> > > > > than dogs, rather than the expected other way around.

> > > >

> > > > Everything is important in order to set the hierarchy. But dogs'

> > > > instincts have been reduced drastically.

> > >

> > > Bad wolfy, don't offend Rob here! =S Ask him about it first, then draw

> > > conclusions.

> 

> I was not refering to Malamutes wolfy. You know how it is, some kinds

> of dogs have been so badly treated... =S

> 

> > No offense taken. I can't know, Howler, I just know what I am. I can't

> > tell anyways, I've stil got the wolf in me.

> 

> Hey I love bog dogs! And don't worry, you'll know what you are. Sorry

> anyway, maybe I didn't express myself correctly, I just wanted to

> state the dogs are always suffering because of humans. =S

> 

> > > > > > LOL. That's not what I meant, I mean I just fall asleep before I

> > > > > > finish. I dunno, maybe it's just not what I expected. Whatever.

> > > > >

> > > > > Oh that. Get some rest, you're obviously too sleepy for the thing.

> > > >

> > > > If you try the autohypnosis thing when you go to sleep, you'll get

> > > > finally asleep. It depends on how you feel, but trying if you're too

> > > > tired doesn't give good results.

> > >

> > > Yeah and try to get some good sleep. That can provoke very nice wolfish

> > > dreams in the morning. A cup of pepermint tea can help you get that

> > > (it's a natural tranqualizer! ;).

> >

> > Lolol, I d-shifted in the middle of baseball a few nights ago, you can

> > imagine that :) Mid-way shift, BTW. (this isn't some kind of Air Bud

> > ripoff!!) Wait, that sounded wrong.. I dreamed that I shifted halfway

> > in the middle of baseball, not fell asleep in the middle of a game :)

> >

> > By the way, did I post the werecard with the Fox phenotype there?

> > Sorry, sorry, that's not a phenotype. I kind of realized that there

> > wasn't that special connection there, and though I shifted into foxes

> > at one point, I have to remember that I can shift into anything, but

> > there isn't the connection there. I shift into what I want if I want

> > to, but I don't. I mean dreamshifts, since in lucid dreams, anything

> > can happen. The fox just was never there. Whatever.

> >

> > I have one extroadinarily stupid question, but it'll help me a lot if

> > I can get an answer. With Alaskan Malamutes, I know that the tail is

> > supposed to be carried over the back normally. Now does this mean that

> > it has much more limited movement of the tail, or is this just

> > supposed to be a natural position and the dog still has complete

> > mobility of the tail? This could actually bend my perception of the

> > phenotype and what it is... see, when I dreamshift I have complete

> > mobility of the tail, though most of the time it's in a similar

> > position to the one I decribed. See the thing is, I JUST KNOW THAT I

> > AM. The reason I have to narrow down what breed it is is because,

> > well, I don't know what I am, I just am. When I shift, it's not like I

> > conciously know what I'm shifting into. (Unless it's intentional) You

> > get what I'm saying, right?? It's still embarrassing. But anyway, the

> > question is, do Malamutes still have complete mobility of the tail? (

> > I think that the tail docking and similar are some very stupid human

> > moves indeed, after all, one major way of communication is hampered

> > and WHO COULD LIVE WITHOUT A NORMAL TAIL?)



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